[Data Mining] ESO Update 17 Part 3 - Psijic Order Skill Line, Artaeum, Jewellery Crafting, and More

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Seraphayel wrote: »

Wasn't there the same issue with Naryu?

Naryu didn't switch species between the Chapter and main game.

SilverIce58

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Wasn't there the same issue with Naryu?

Naryu didn't switch species between the Chapter and main game.

Neither did Darien tho?

Ilsabet

Seraphayel wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Seeing as Darien is in it, I strongly suspect a chunk of all that new stuff is going to be a DLC separate from the Chapter. Because otherwise new players aren't going to have any idea who he is when they meet him because they won't have met him yet--there's a little bit of wiggle room what with Meridia's abilities to mess with time, but that only works from a lore perspective not a new player perspective. (This is assuming they follow the same pattern as Morrowind with a 'new' introductory quest and quest events that are ambiguously placed in the timeline of course.)

Wasn't there the same issue with Naryu?

Well, we are going to see Velya and Razum-dar, that's pretty obvious after the heavy spoilers in Morrowind. Maybe Naryu will return and they have something to do with Darien? That would be amazing.

There's a much bigger issue with Darien, since the plot stuff with him in Coldharbour is a big story twist and not just a matter of whether he remembers having done quests with you before. With Naryu it doesn't really matter what order you do the quests in because there are no real continuity issues. With Darien you've got that big continuity cliff at the end of Coldharbour, and it matters a lot which side you're on. (Especially when him coming back needs to be such a big payoff for those who have played through Coldharbour and gotten the hints in the other DLCs - you need the "omg you're back" interactions for those who have done that content, while still being accessible for those who haven't).

It would be fun seeing all three of the cool sidekick characters together for hijinks, I'll give you that.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Neither did Darien tho?

@SilverIce58 Check the datamine article. It says he comes back as an Auroran, which is to say he's going to be a Daedra now.

That's not something you can explain away with a few extra or removed lines of dialog, unlike Naryu's previous appearances.

Also, as @Ilsabet pointed out, there's the cliffhanger factor, and if someone plays Summerset Chapter BEFORE the Daggerfall Covenant plotline because they're a new player, Zeni would then have to explain how he went from being a Daedra to a human when he shows up in the vanilla content.

More likely he'll show up in a DLC, where they've previously been fine with advancing the plot slowly. Unless they don't take the same approach as they did with Morrowind and it isn't treated as a new game with a new prologue etc. (I'd personally prefer it if they didn't; it was clunky and missing several elements - Skyshards! - in the Morrowind tutorial, in addition to butchering aspects of the vanilla game storyline.) But I guess we'll see.

SilverIce58

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Neither did Darien tho?

@SilverIce58 Check the datamine article. It says he comes back as an Auroran, which is to say he's going to be a Daedra now.

That's not something you can explain away with a few extra or removed lines of dialog, unlike Naryu's previous appearances.

Also, as @Ilsabet pointed out, there's the cliffhanger factor, and if someone plays Summerset Chapter BEFORE the Daggerfall Covenant plotline because they're a new player, Zeni would then have to explain how he went from being a Daedra to a human when he shows up in the vanilla content.

More likely he'll show up in a DLC, where they've previously been fine with advancing the plot slowly. Unless they don't take the same approach as they did with Morrowind and it isn't treated as a new game with a new prologue etc. (I'd personally prefer it if they didn't; it was clunky and missing several elements - Skyshards! - in the Morrowind tutorial, in addition to butchering aspects of the vanilla game storyline.) But I guess we'll see.

Oh whoops, my bad. It's been a while since I've read the article. Maybe I should read it once daily from now on. I thought you meant he had changed from man to mer, but nah. I personally can't wait to see how Meridia explains that, as that's some kinda strong power. Maybe it's similar to Umaril the Unfeathered?

abelsgmx

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Also: perhaps being a master of space/ time could actually fix the lag in Cyro

lol