[Data Mining] ESO Update 17 Part 3 - Psijic Order Skill Line, Artaeum, Jewellery Crafting, and More

SilverIce58

Wolfenbelle wrote: »

As someone who has always played AD since pre-launch in 2014, and who has missed Auridon while playing through all the other zones in the game, I'm delighted to see a return to Auridon-like content.

You should know tho, that Auridon looks very little like the rest of Summerset. Auridon is the only isle that other races are allowed to visit at the present moment, so the architecture looks more similar to the mainland, than the largest isle.

Faulgor

Arko_Nam_La wrote: »

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

Also, there are around 144 total Summerset Isle map cells. Vvardenfell only had 81. This means Summerset's map will be quite large, 12x12 map image cells as opposed to Vvardenfell's 9x9

^ Most underrated fact. Summerset will be almost twice as big as Vvardenfell.
I wonder how much will be inaccessible. There are loading screens for Eton Nir, so the highest mountain is in the game.

Add that Summerset don't have an giant volcano in center.

it does have eton nir tho

I was wondering about this, why would a mountain itself have a load screen? in lore it is the biggest and steepest mountain in summerset, and has Cloud Rest at the top. I could understand a tooltip saying you're on Eton Nir, but a loadscreen for the mountain itself does make me wonder.

I could imagine that the ascent is a separate location, such as Sorrow in Wrothgar, or certain inexplicable caves that lead to the top of a mountain in some base zones.

SirAxen

Release the trailer!

Azurya

lelink88 wrote: »

Nothing new for PvP ?

PvP is always wanting to sets with no stats, weapons with no dmg, skills doing nothing,
UNLESS IT ARE THEIR OWNS
and they don´t want to DIE
sp pls @ZOS make it possible, give PvP an own area/server where they are IMMORTAL
and their sets/weapons/abilities/skills etc don´t harm anyone
PERHAPS THEN THEY WILL BE HAPPY AT LAST

The_Drop_Bear

Am I the only one not looking Forward to the Psijcs, only 11 outsiders have ever visited their island and now is it's going to be filled with hundreds of players, I hope they make it solo.
Also I hope that we gain reputation with them as a ally but not as a member, as they are very selective and only recruit people very rarely. Also they are neutral so going to fight for an alliance in cyrodill should get you kicked out. I know that the other guilds are neutral but unlike them which allow their members to do things in the war as it is an individual and not the guild. The Psijcs and the psijic monks never interfere unless there is some sort of dangerous magical world ending event going down. The guy in skyrim even says that if they knew he was even talking to you he would be in deep trouble.

Ydrisselle

Arko_Nam_La wrote: »

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

Also, there are around 144 total Summerset Isle map cells. Vvardenfell only had 81. This means Summerset's map will be quite large, 12x12 map image cells as opposed to Vvardenfell's 9x9

^ Most underrated fact. Summerset will be almost twice as big as Vvardenfell.
I wonder how much will be inaccessible. There are loading screens for Eton Nir, so the highest mountain is in the game.

Add that Summerset don't have an giant volcano in center.

it does have eton nir tho

I was wondering about this, why would a mountain itself have a load screen? in lore it is the biggest and steepest mountain in summerset, and has Cloud Rest at the top. I could understand a tooltip saying you're on Eton Nir, but a loadscreen for the mountain itself does make me wonder.

I think that means instanced content - most likely a trial (it's way too big for something smaller, like a dungeon or two).

SilverIce58

The_Drop_Bear wrote: »

Am I the only one not looking Forward to the Psijcs, only 11 outsiders have ever visited their island and now is it's going to be filled with hundreds of players, I hope they make it solo.
Also I hope that we gain reputation with them as a ally but not as a member, as they are very selective and only recruit people very rarely. Also they are neutral so going to fight for an alliance in cyrodill should get you kicked out. I know that the other guilds are neutral but unlike them which allow their members to do things in the war as it is an individual and not the guild. The Psijcs and the psijic monks never interfere unless there is some sort of dangerous magical world ending event going down. The guy in skyrim even says that if they knew he was even talking to you he would be in deep trouble.

According to the Psijics, they only let (about) 11-13 members (not sure of the exact number) join last time they showed up. The Vestige could be one of those people. Just because over 5k people play and you would see 5k people joing PSJJJJ, doesn't mean that's what's actually happening. Lore-wise it's only one person. Collectively, we are all the Vestige, and we are all one person...technically.

The_Drop_Bear

Still if they don't make it a solo instance it will run in the feel, I also hope we don't get to join them but are simply gaining reputation for the skill line as an ally, as it would run the don't get involved thing the psijic have going

OtarTheMad

That's pretty exciting stuff! I can't wait to see what is in the chapter. Seems like a good year for ESO.

Thal_J

as promised, here is the estimated size of summerset isle based on the map files (12x12 map cells vs vvardenfell's 9x9)

the summerset map is 1.777778 times larger than vvardenfell map

note: the map size does not reflect actual land size, this could just mean that the map is just higher resolution. (even if it did, it would not reflect land size anyway due to it having water around the outside.)

lucky_Sage

maybe the infused weapon turn stamina weapons into magick

Seraphayel

Arko_Nam_La wrote: »

as promised, here is the estimated size of summerset isle based on the map files (12x12 map cells vs vvardenfell's 9x9)

Well, even if they don't fill the map out completely it's bigger than Vvardenfell!

DeadlyRecluse

I have nothing constructive to add, but I just want to thank the people putting in the time to do this. Super cool, from a technical perspective, a lore perspective, and a player perspective!

Thal_J

Seraphayel wrote: »

Arko_Nam_La wrote: »

as promised, here is the estimated size of summerset isle based on the map files (12x12 map cells vs vvardenfell's 9x9)

Well, even if they don't fill the map out completely it's bigger than Vvardenfell!

indeed, I am speculating that there will likely be more land to explore on summerset, based on the fact that the entire isle will be explorable (no sheogorad isle size area missing) and also there isn't a massive volcano in the middle of the island

SirAxen

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

I have nothing constructive to add, but I just want to thank the people putting in the time to do this. Super cool, from a technical perspective, a lore perspective, and a player perspective!

I concur.

In all seriousness though, I wish they'd start the teasing and promotional train. I know they are probably waiting until Dragon Bones is out on Console first, and perhaps even a week or so to let the dust settle on that some. However, if Q2 is the plan again and pre-orders are the plan again, they probably should getting on that soon.

sozo108

Really hoping the jewelry crafting info is all legit and comes soon especially if it allows us to improve dungeon/trial jewelry to gold.

S'yn

If the possibility of jewelery crafting is coming....*passes out from joy!*

Demycilian

People are going to hate the fact that Summerset got some really big lakes.

SilverIce58

Demycilian wrote: »

People are going to hate the fact that Summerset got some really big lakes.

I hope they're able to be swam in. My Argonians would like the exercise.

Stickbow

VerboseQuips wrote: »

Any chance we'll also know what happened to Falinesti, since we'll face Mephala?



Hype intensifies...

This. Even if only just this....three of my toons are looking for Falinesti even as we speak.

Seraphayel

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

People are going to hate the fact that Summerset got some really big lakes.

I hope they're able to be swam in. My Argonians would like the exercise.

But swimming is so boring in ESO... you can't dive, can't use skills, your pets disappear... it's one of those parts that totally ruin ESO for me. I mean there musn't be massive underwater content like in GW2 but they could have made it like WoW with at least something to see underwater.

SilverIce58

Seraphayel wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

People are going to hate the fact that Summerset got some really big lakes.

I hope they're able to be swam in. My Argonians would like the exercise.

But swimming is so boring in ESO... you can't dive, can't use skills, your pets disappear... it's one of those parts that totally ruin ESO for me. I mean there musn't be massive underwater content like in GW2 but they could have made it like WoW with at least something to see underwater.

Yeah but Argonians go faster than the others!

TheNuminous1

Arko_Nam_La wrote: »

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

Also, there are around 144 total Summerset Isle map cells. Vvardenfell only had 81. This means Summerset's map will be quite large, 12x12 map image cells as opposed to Vvardenfell's 9x9

^ Most underrated fact. Summerset will be almost twice as big as Vvardenfell.
I wonder how much will be inaccessible. There are loading screens for Eton Nir, so the highest mountain is in the game.

Add that Summerset don't have an giant volcano in center.

it does have eton nir tho

I was wondering about this, why would a mountain itself have a load screen? in lore it is the biggest and steepest mountain in summerset, and has Cloud Rest at the top. I could understand a tooltip saying you're on Eton Nir, but a loadscreen for the mountain itself does make me wonder.

thats a good point. im so curious and hopeful for this update. ever little local is going to blow my mind i feel it.

TheNuminous1

The_Drop_Bear wrote: »

Am I the only one not looking Forward to the Psijcs, only 11 outsiders have ever visited their island and now is it's going to be filled with hundreds of players, I hope they make it solo.
Also I hope that we gain reputation with them as a ally but not as a member, as they are very selective and only recruit people very rarely. Also they are neutral so going to fight for an alliance in cyrodill should get you kicked out. I know that the other guilds are neutral but unlike them which allow their members to do things in the war as it is an individual and not the guild. The Psijcs and the psijic monks never interfere unless there is some sort of dangerous magical world ending event going down. The guy in skyrim even says that if they knew he was even talking to you he would be in deep trouble.

will people ever realize there is no such thing as hundreds of players to the npc mind and story. just 1. the vestige. the souless one. The Numinous One.

Alcast

ZOS needs a good lineup for the next Chapter.

With Morrowind we got:
Huge new Zone (Morrowindd)
Battlegrounds (New PVP Mode)
Warden (New Class)
Halls of Fabrication (New Trial)

I wonder what they have in the bag to get the next Chapter on par with Morrowind. I am pretty sure the pricetag will be the same as Morrownd so they have to convince people with a lot of good stuff.

Demycilian

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

People are going to hate the fact that Summerset got some really big lakes.

I hope they're able to be swam in. My Argonians would like the exercise.

Please be informed that some Altmer choose to be blackhearted fiends. They may have anticipated the invasion of sport enthusiasts such as you and prepared these water bodies with slaughterfish out of pure spite.

SilverIce58

Demycilian wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

People are going to hate the fact that Summerset got some really big lakes.

I hope they're able to be swam in. My Argonians would like the exercise.

Please be informed that some Altmer choose to be blackhearted fiends. They may have anticipated the invasion of sport enthusiasts such as you and prepared these water bodies with slaughterfish out of pure spite.

¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

Seraphayel

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS needs a good lineup for the next Chapter.

With Morrowind we got:
Huge new Zone (Morrowindd)
Battlegrounds (New PVP Mode)
Warden (New Class)
Halls of Fabrication (New Trial)

I wonder what they have in the bag to get the next Chapter on par with Morrowind. I am pretty sure the pricetag will be the same as Morrownd so they have to convince people with a lot of good stuff.

Well,

Summerset (bigger than Vvardenfell)
Psyjic Skill line
Jewelry Crafting
(Spell Crafting)

sounds in every way bigger than the Morrowind contents. Pretty sure a new trial is always part of a Chapter as well. Warden overall is pretty much a disappointment imho (I very much anticipated it but the end result is rather underwhelming).

JD2013

Well, we need an official announcement to know what we are actually getting.

Lookin’ at you, ZOS! Any time now please!

Thal_J

Seraphayel wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS needs a good lineup for the next Chapter.

With Morrowind we got:
Huge new Zone (Morrowindd)
Battlegrounds (New PVP Mode)
Warden (New Class)
Halls of Fabrication (New Trial)

I wonder what they have in the bag to get the next Chapter on par with Morrowind. I am pretty sure the pricetag will be the same as Morrownd so they have to convince people with a lot of good stuff.

Well,

Summerset (bigger than Vvardenfell)
Psyjic Skill line
Jewelry Crafting
(Spell Crafting)

sounds in every way bigger than the Morrowind contents. Pretty sure a new trial is always part of a Chapter as well. Warden overall is pretty much a disappointment imho (I very much anticipated it but the end result is rather underwhelming).

my personal theory on where the new datamined info will fall into place. I have put (?) next to things I am not sure on:

summerset chapter Q2

- spellcrafting, either as a base game update or something you have to pay for the chapter to use.
- fully fledged summerset isle zone
- psijic class (? - the datamined info backing this up is extremely thin and I don't think it is likely, but it makes more sense to me to have a psijic skill line/questline on an artaeum DLC zone later down the line. plus, chapters are supposed to have big new systems like classes instead of skill lines)
- psijic skill line
- artaeum zone included (? - the chapter files do appear to have /summerset/artaeum/ assets, and there is evidence of artaeum aurbis ring hover effect files (confirming it will be a zone, located in the aurbis ring like clockwork city and coldharbour). It just doesn't seem likely to me that we will get the large summerset zone, and another zone for artaeum in the chapter DLC.)

artaeum zone dlc Q3

- artaeum as a full zone, with quests etc
- jewellerycrafting (? - again, we know more or less nothing about jewellerycrafting, but it just seems right to me to have a jewellerycrafting station on artaeum, like the transmute station was in CWC)
- psijic skill line (? - as said before, this is more likely to come with summerset chapter, although I think it would make sense to be here instead, as artaeum is the home of the psijics)

spiral skein zone dlc Q4
- spiral skein as a questable zone
- will make use of all of the new spiral skein assets found