Are the gold costs for outfit changes too dang high?

Anotherone773

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

Honestly, ill use it very little but not because of costs. Its just not my thing. However, the prices for the whole thing are a bit outrageous. Maybe a max of like 10k ( it is a vanity item after all).

Edit: and ESO+ should get a cost reduction of 50%.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

lordrichter wrote: »

What are the final gold costs? Did they change from PTS?

50g per slot to dye armor
350g per slot to dye weapons
100g - 6000g per slot for styles, depending on the style

That is what I recall from PTS.

Up to 6000 for a weapon. That's before 3 dye channels.

Mayrael

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

Unfortunetly my sub has been renewed recently, but I quess its my last one since... years ZO$ is going the path I hate the most in MMOs, I had quitted so many of them in the past because of greed and now it happends to ESO. It started long ago with b2p model, now we have outfits (one of the most anticipated features of the game behind a paywall), and will end with weapon upgrades, uniqe enchants and other flying sheits. I think I need to take a break from ESO ... and no you can't have my stuff, it belongs to ZO$, just like your stuff which you rented from ZO$ .

Anotherone773

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

Carbonised wrote: »

I do hope everyone realises that these exorbitant gold prices only mean that I, and all the other elite traders, just have to earn more gold, which means higher prices on all the mats and furnishings and stuff we sell in the guild stores to fund this new gold cost.

We who have will manage, we just push the costs over to those who have not, which is hardly fair, but that's how the system works.

If only it worked that way. Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it.

Juju_beans

I'll stick to costumes and dying them thank you.

Wow put in a gear/weapon transmog feature and over time the price to do it went up and up..became too expensive to just go to town and change your looks.

For me..costumes/dye work just fine and are free

Wildberryjack

Not all of us are good at making massive gold. It would be nice if we were not slammed every time we want to change our clothes. This actually discourages me from using the system. There are too many other things I want to buy, like housing items, to waste it on my outfits. Shame, it's fun to mog, but oh well.

krachall

No, they are about right

I messed around with a few styles and most full changes were 4-5k gold. 5k gold is, literally, 5 minutes of casual raw material farming. And it's not like you're changing your outfit every day...or even every week. Sure, maybe you tweak some stuff but it's a simple cosmetic change that you'll use once every few weeks. Pay the gold already.

Redguard5StandingBy

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

Honestly, this is just a money grab. The industry as a whole went downhill back in the mid-2000's and hasn't been the same since. The scary part is though that ZOS seems to have it pricing way off the scale compared to every other MMO that I've seen and for the life of me I can't figure out why. Other major AAA MMORPGs don't charge anywhere near these amounts for features like this in their stores or games. The problem is until players stop feeding them money nothing will ever change.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

krachall wrote: »

5k gold is, literally, 5 minutes of casual raw material farming. And it's not like you're changing your outfit every day...or even every week. Sure, maybe you tweak some stuff but it's a simple cosmetic change that you'll use once every few weeks. Pay the gold already.

So then there should be a 5k flat rate for costume changes. That't 50k gold across 10 toons but that's ok. I would be fine with that although I think it should be more like 3k gold like the champion system.

Saturn

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Discuss

350g per every colour I want to change. Yay
EDIT: IT'S TOO DANG HIGH!

Imza

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

motif styles should be free on the character that knows the motif - and cost on the character that doesn't know the motif

EDIT:

Colors should be free if you have the achievement and cost if the character does not have the achievement

redspecter23

No, they are about right

The problem with this gold cost system is that whether you feel it's too much or not is highly dependent on your style of play. If you're rolling in gold, then you probably don't care. If you only have one toon, you'll be fine with it for the most part. You play 15 toons and want multiple outfits for each? That sucks big time.

Zalicius

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

For those of you that don't go on the PTS, we tried to advocate on your behalf. We really tried.

We also suggested a FLAT COST for changes. Similar to how it costs 3k to change champion points. No arbitrary higher costs for other motifs. No dice.

Well, @Recremen did all the work in hiscomplete review of the outfit system on the PTS and I just gave moral support.

Other threads are here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/389196/gold-cost-for-outfitting-must-go/p1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/390949/not-that-expensive/p1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/391339/outfitting-should-have-no-gold-cost-for-subscribers/p1

I disagree with the flat cost. After I created my first outfit today I was unhappy with a couple of pieces I'd selected and went back and made a couple of changes which would have cost a lot more had it been a flat cost.

Talek

Fun fact, crown exlusive motifs cost the most, you want a weapon in frostcaster style? 10k, who cares that you already pay crowns for it and style material isn't obtainable easily in-game, pay more even for stupid outfit...

Yedax

They had a really good opportunity to make a good Transmog system. I guess GW2 is still king when it comes to this.

Alaztor91

As a karate expert I think they should have made it so that it costs less gold than currently + style material(srsly not counting writs and furniture crafting, is there any point to rare style mats now?)

radiostar

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

This isn't what some of us expected in wardrobe slots, or a transmo mechanic. And a lot of pts users raised concerns about the cost, especially since you cannot share outfits with your alts. Kind of a let-down.

DMuehlhausen

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

It's deliberately set high to sell tokens. A gold sink this large may cause deflation as well, effectively making prices even higher than they seem right now.

Deflation would bring costs down...

EvilAutoTech

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

I must apologize to you all. I posted a while back that I thought the resource for this system should be gold. Don't remember which thread. I never thought it would be this much gold.

On console so I won't be able to try it for a couple of weeks but I don't think my preferred look will cost too much. I like plain and simple and deep black. My chest of choice is the first tier Bosmer jack, I like Primal greaves, Altmer weapons and Orc gloves and shoes. I like low level Bosmer and Redguard sashes and the tiny heart shaped shields. I don't really care about the look of my bows. I have been using Breton for my resto staves and Daedric for my destro staves. The only thing I don't like about my current look is the stupid hip flaps. I don't even mind most of the monster shoulders and always keep my helmet hidden. It may cost me a few gold coins but I think I can manage.

I am, however, really disappointed that some will have outfits that will cost them more than epic necro or spinner necklaces.

Getern

Skwor wrote: »

Honestly it should cost more. It is to cheap.

ikr? The poll is biased. I cant see option where I cant stand for cost being too damn low

Wildberryjack

There is no need to turn this into a gold sink. Really wish they'd dial this down some.

Dolgubon

No, they are about right

There are a lot of posts here of people creating outfits with the highest cost possible, but there's the thing: Most people won't make an outfit that costs that much.

I only spent around 10k on my outfit, and I wasn't paying attention to the cost at all. If I was concerned about that, I could have easily spent quite a bit less. For those players who actually have access to the high cost, super expensive motifs, unless they have bought it through the crown store, they probably already have enough gold to use them anyway.

Getern

Getern wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

Honestly it should cost more. It is to cheap.

ikr? The poll is biased. I cant see option where I can stand for cost being too damn low

Sweetpea704

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Azurya wrote: »

ând how am I supposed to answer, while waiting another 24 hours before I can play again???

For those of you who can't log in yet. Here is a screenshot. I tried to max out the gold cost to show the maximum but there might be a way to make it even higher.


Pink swords are a thing now. Somewhere out there Paul Sage senses a disturbance in the force.

Remember that is is on EVERY character you make, since these are character wide and not account wide. So if you want all your characters to look a certain way, you have to pay for the same thing over and over. Note also that the costs in outfit tokens doesn't change no matter how high you get the gold cost. If those motifs are really worth more, then the token cost should increase too.


Note that this is about $3 at current crown costs. Not much if you did it once but you will have to pay it again if you want to change JUST ONE DYE or one item since it costs to make ANY changes.

Spent tons of time and money farming rare motifs?

Now you get to pay for the privilege of using your own motifs from your own collection. I could see this cost justified if you didn't own the motif, but to charge you to use something you already payed for? Really?

What is SUPER annoying about this is how much money I had to spend to buy some of these motifs in the first place and also how much TIME I spent doing dailies, pickpocketing everyone in freaking Morrowind, farming hard dungeons, and looting every freaking container to find motifs. It is like earning the money to buy clothes, and then having to PAY for wearing the clothes. It is stupid. Generally, I am a fan boy and I'm constantly standing up for Zenimax, but this is a kick in the teeth for crafters that have already paid enough in gold, crowns, and time to get their motifs.

Pea

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Dolgubon wrote: »

There are a lot of posts here of people creating outfits with the highest cost possible, but there's the thing: Most people won't make an outfit that costs that much.

I only spent around 10k on my outfit, and I wasn't paying attention to the cost at all. If I was concerned about that, I could have easily spent quite a bit less. For those players who actually have access to the high cost, super expensive motifs, unless they have bought it through the crown store, they probably already have enough gold to use them anyway.

Hmmmm....

Sweetpea704 wrote: »

What is SUPER annoying about this is how much money I had to spend to buy some of these motifs in the first place and also how much TIME I spent doing dailies, pickpocketing everyone in freaking Morrowind, farming hard dungeons, and looting every freaking container to find motifs. It is like earning the money to buy clothes, and then having to PAY for wearing the clothes. It is stupid. Generally, I am a fan boy and I'm constantly standing up for Zenimax, but this is a kick in the teeth for crafters that have already paid enough in gold, crowns, and time to get their motifs.

Pea

Lol. @Sweetpea704 Better clear that up with @Dolgubon He thinks you are rolling in gold.

LadyAstrum

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

I was going to vote 'no', but in light of the fact you have to get a fair bit of gold to buy motifs (or crowns for limited ones), plus purchase outfit slots for 1500 if you want more than one per character, I'd say this whole thing is quite expensive, both in and out of game.

monktoasty

Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high

It doesn't make sense to be that high. Except to encourage real money spending..which is horrible to treat customers in this way.

I mean it's not sickening high..but costly enough that it's not really worth doing but once or twice.

Wildberryjack

It would be cheaper for the rare patterns to just craft the gear. It shouldn't be that way.

Tasear

No, they are about right

There's a bug where it adds 1k golf mysteriously to cost.

Jeremy

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Discuss

Seems like knit picking to me.

I forget how much it cost me to make my outfit.... but I believe in total it was around 20k. That is a zillion times cheaper than having to re-craft my legendary gear from scratch just to change its style. This isn't to mention you can now change heavy armor into medium or light armor styles and vice versa, which is cool and gives you a lot more options. So no matter what your complaints are in regard to the gold costs - this new system is infinitely better than the way it was. The point being It's impossible to argue that this isn't a vast improvement over the way things were.

So the new outfit system gets a job well done from me. I love it. And judging from the huge crowds I see in front of the outfit stations I'm not the only one.