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Are the gold costs for outfit changes too dang high?

  • Faulgor
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    red_emu wrote: »
    I have 3342 gold. I guess I gotta reach out for my credit card to use this new feature :neutral:

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  • shinikaze
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    No, they are about right
    Azurya wrote: »
    ând how am I supposed to answer, while waiting another 24 hours before I can play again???

    For those of you who can't log in yet. Here is a screenshot. I tried to max out the gold cost to show the maximum but there might be a way to make it even higher.

    u6QqVsW.jpg
    Pink swords are a thing now. Somewhere out there Paul Sage senses a disturbance in the force.

    Remember that is is on EVERY character you make, since these are character wide and not account wide. So if you want all your characters to look a certain way, you have to pay for the same thing over and over. Note also that the costs in outfit tokens doesn't change no matter how high you get the gold cost. If those motifs are really worth more, then the token cost should increase too.

    HOLY COW! I guess i'll have to go back to looting lockboxes in auridon >.<)
  • Recremen
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Economy needs gold sinks

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    Economy has gold sinks. Economy has gold sinks that are actually more than sufficient to combat inflation. Have you looked at guild traders or done any analysis on the price of goods? We're actually experiencing deflation for many items while others remain extraordinarily stable. Adding more gold sinks makes the deflation worse and it may start affecting the price of even the stable goods.
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  • Leogon
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
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    Amazing job when it goes to destroying this patch ZO$ :)
    That's what they do best. They're probably gonna take this as a compliment.

  • Nihility42
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    No, they are about right
    Azurya wrote: »
    ând how am I supposed to answer, while waiting another 24 hours before I can play again???

    For those of you who can't log in yet. Here is a screenshot. I tried to max out the gold cost to show the maximum but there might be a way to make it even higher.

    u6QqVsW.jpg
    Pink swords are a thing now. Somewhere out there Paul Sage senses a disturbance in the force.

    Remember that is is on EVERY character you make, since these are character wide and not account wide. So if you want all your characters to look a certain way, you have to pay for the same thing over and over. Note also that the costs in outfit tokens doesn't change no matter how high you get the gold cost. If those motifs are really worth more, then the token cost should increase too.

    This price is way to high and just want to know what happened to the one free outfit on patch notes 3.3.0 dragon bones that @ZOS_GinaBruno typed up on Feb 8th, it stated. I know it was 4 days ago but wow really ????
    Multiple Outfits
    Everyone will receive one free customizable outfit per character, and can unlock additional outfits in the Crown Store. These outfits are character-specific, so you can customize each character uniquely right off the bat!

    Everyone does get one free outfit slot. You still have to pay to customize it. That was always clear through the course of the PTS.
  • DarcyMardin
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    I’ve been around since beta, but I still don’t have enough gold to make the costs of this new outfit system seem reasonable to me. And I’m probably better off than many players.

    Let’s say I have ten characters with whom I quest and role play. (I actually have a lot more, since I have 2 accounts). I’d like each of them to have at least one change of outfit — so I need an extra outfit slot for 10 toons. That’s 15000 crowns worth of real money. In addition, I need several thousand in-game gold (or 400 crowns worth of real money) for every change I want to make to an outfit. Considering how often I dye and re-dye my current costumes, these costs will quickly add up.

    Just imagine how much it will cost in real cash to take advantage of *all ten outfit slots* for each of your alts.

    I guess you have to be in the one percent, both in-game and IRL, to make full use of this system.
  • Tyrobag
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    They are most definitely too high, some single weapons cost 6k + the cost of actually dyeing it
  • Carbonised
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    20k gold, OR only a single, tiny teeny little outfit token. Hint hint nudge nudge.

    Disgusting.
  • Esha76
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    I'm not thrilled with spending this much earned gold on these costs, but oh well. ZOS would rather you spend 400 crowns on their outfit stone, or whatever the hell they are calling them, so these costs aren't going anywhere.

    "It's what it is." - ZOS developer, from ESO Live, on the subject. I don't care to recall his name...

    What I am really outraged over is the inflated 1500 crown cost per additional outfit slots, per character. I was looking forward to buying several slots on several characters. Now I will be buying absolute zero.
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  • Linaleah
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    Azurya wrote: »
    ând how am I supposed to answer, while waiting another 24 hours before I can play again???

    For those of you who can't log in yet. Here is a screenshot. I tried to max out the gold cost to show the maximum but there might be a way to make it even higher.

    u6QqVsW.jpg
    Pink swords are a thing now. Somewhere out there Paul Sage senses a disturbance in the force.

    Remember that is is on EVERY character you make, since these are character wide and not account wide. So if you want all your characters to look a certain way, you have to pay for the same thing over and over. Note also that the costs in outfit tokens doesn't change no matter how high you get the gold cost. If those motifs are really worth more, then the token cost should increase too.

    you didn't try nearly hard enough.

    full Hlaalu, including weapons, all dyed? 24900 each weapon was 6k. also apparently its the weapons that cost an arm and a leg to dye, at least armor is still 50 gold. per channel. uggh.

    and and best part? BEST PART! even if you just want to clear the slots. not replace them. clear them. it costs, you guessed it! GOLD.

    sorry about lack of screenshot, for whatever reason they are refusing to save for me today?
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • Elvent
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    I've been saving to purchase one of the large homes in the game, guess I won't be able to play around with this or it'll take a nice chunk out of my savings lol
  • Linaleah
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    Azurya wrote: »
    ând how am I supposed to answer, while waiting another 24 hours before I can play again???

    For those of you who can't log in yet. Here is a screenshot. I tried to max out the gold cost to show the maximum but there might be a way to make it even higher.

    u6QqVsW.jpg
    Pink swords are a thing now. Somewhere out there Paul Sage senses a disturbance in the force.

    Remember that is is on EVERY character you make, since these are character wide and not account wide. So if you want all your characters to look a certain way, you have to pay for the same thing over and over. Note also that the costs in outfit tokens doesn't change no matter how high you get the gold cost. If those motifs are really worth more, then the token cost should increase too.

    This price is way to high and just want to know what happened to the one free outfit on patch notes 3.3.0 dragon bones that @ZOS_GinaBruno typed up on Feb 8th, it stated. I know it was 4 days ago but wow really ????
    Multiple Outfits
    Everyone will receive one free customizable outfit per character, and can unlock additional outfits in the Crown Store. These outfits are character-specific, so you can customize each character uniquely right off the bat!

    they meant outfit slot. which you do get. they did NOT mean free customization. unfortunately.
    Edited by Linaleah on February 12, 2018 7:19PM
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • jaye63
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    No, they are about right
    Will be nice to see these gold hoarders finally spend their scrooge mcduck hoards.
  • Carbonised
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    Someone please post a screenshot of the highest possible gold cost for outfits. I believe we have seen 30k and beyond on the PTS.
  • Sevalaricgirl
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    Nihility42 wrote: »
    red_emu wrote: »
    I have 3342 gold. I guess I gotta reach out for my credit card to use this new feature :neutral:

    Or farm for like 30 minutes

    Really, I did a vet quest and got 166g. Some quests even lower.
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    Azurya wrote: »
    ând how am I supposed to answer, while waiting another 24 hours before I can play again???

    For those of you who can't log in yet. Here is a screenshot. I tried to max out the gold cost to show the maximum but there might be a way to make it even higher.

    u6QqVsW.jpg
    Pink swords are a thing now. Somewhere out there Paul Sage senses a disturbance in the force.

    Remember that is is on EVERY character you make, since these are character wide and not account wide. So if you want all your characters to look a certain way, you have to pay for the same thing over and over. Note also that the costs in outfit tokens doesn't change no matter how high you get the gold cost. If those motifs are really worth more, then the token cost should increase too.

    you didn't try nearly hard enough.

    full Hlaalu, including weapons, all dyed? 24900 each weapon was 6k. also apparently its the weapons that cost an arm and a leg to dye, at least armor is still 50 gold. per channel. uggh.

    and and best part? BEST PART! even if you just want to clear the slots. not replace them. clear them. it costs, you guessed it! GOLD.

    sorry about lack of screenshot, for whatever reason they are refusing to save for me today?

    Full Hlaalu on live server. Is there something I'm doing wrong? options im missing?
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    EDIT: I fixed it. got it much higher. see below.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on February 12, 2018 8:06PM
  • Linaleah
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    Linaleah wrote: »
    Azurya wrote: »
    ând how am I supposed to answer, while waiting another 24 hours before I can play again???

    For those of you who can't log in yet. Here is a screenshot. I tried to max out the gold cost to show the maximum but there might be a way to make it even higher.

    u6QqVsW.jpg
    Pink swords are a thing now. Somewhere out there Paul Sage senses a disturbance in the force.

    Remember that is is on EVERY character you make, since these are character wide and not account wide. So if you want all your characters to look a certain way, you have to pay for the same thing over and over. Note also that the costs in outfit tokens doesn't change no matter how high you get the gold cost. If those motifs are really worth more, then the token cost should increase too.

    you didn't try nearly hard enough.

    full Hlaalu, including weapons, all dyed? 24900 each weapon was 6k. also apparently its the weapons that cost an arm and a leg to dye, at least armor is still 50 gold. per channel. uggh.

    and and best part? BEST PART! even if you just want to clear the slots. not replace them. clear them. it costs, you guessed it! GOLD.

    sorry about lack of screenshot, for whatever reason they are refusing to save for me today?

    Full Hlaalu on live server. Is there something I'm doing wrong? options im missing?
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    did you change your second weapon set (as in backbar)? don't forget to dye it as well. that adds 7kish to your outfit cost. if you are wondering how to switch to it - same way as you normally would while playing, you will stay in outfit UI when you do.
    Edited by Linaleah on February 12, 2018 7:40PM
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    I am super rich on ESO. From my own perspective the gold costs of outfit changes are less than trivial. However, if less wealthy players feel that the gold costs are so high that it is stopping them enjoying the outfit system then they have my full support in asking for a reduction.

    This was the most expensive outfit I managed to make on PTS - IIRC it's all Celestial including 2 dual wield weapon bars, all dyed in Vekh Blue.

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  • CountEdmondDantes
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    It's quite high.

    And honestly, I do not understand the logic here. Let me explain:

    With furniture, I can sort of understand why it's so resource expensive. I mean, it's furniture. You make it once, you don't need to make it again. There's a sense of permanency. Also, you can sell it and make more money.

    But with outfits, I don't understand why we have to pay so much to make an outfit. And to be clear: I can afford this for a few characters. And yes, I can make more money. I'm just questioning the logic for something (1) that's purely cosmetic and (2) you cannot sell. I mean, you're making it for yourself. If you don't like it, you should be able to change it easily and - dare I suggest - without cost.

    This really makes no sense to me. It's not a money issue, it's a logic issue. And don't tell me ESO needs a gold sink because I thought that's what houses and furniture were for.



    Edited by CountEdmondDantes on February 12, 2018 8:15PM
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    I am super rich on ESO. From my own perspective the gold costs of outfit changes are less than trivial. However, if less wealthy players feel that the gold costs are so high that it is stopping them enjoying the outfit system then they have my full support in asking for a reduction.

    This was the most expensive outfit I managed to make on PTS - IIRC it's all Celestial including 2 dual wield weapon bars, all dyed in Vekh Blue.

    wC3JeTj.jpg


    Got it even higher. Some of your items had only two dyeable slots. ZOS charges more money Per dyable slot.

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    Also dying a two-handed weapon costs TWICE as much as a one handed weapon. (but they still only count as one set bonus of course)

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    No getting out of paying through the nose just because you only have one weapon. It costs DOUBLE.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on February 12, 2018 8:04PM
  • ADarklore
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    I won't say they are 'too dang high' but I do agree they could be a BIT lower... and since there is no middle ground for this poll, I didn't select either.
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    This price is way to high and just want to know what happened to the one free outfit on patch notes 3.3.0 dragon bones that @ZOS_GinaBruno typed up on Feb 8th, it stated. I know it was 4 days ago but wow really ????
    Multiple Outfits
    Everyone will receive one free customizable outfit per character, and can unlock additional outfits in the Crown Store. These outfits are character-specific, so you can customize each character uniquely right off the bat!

    You DO get ONE free outfit per character, and you can customize it, but it never said, "free to customize" just that you receive a free customizable outfit.
    Edited by ADarklore on February 12, 2018 8:03PM
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  • Carbonised
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    I am super rich on ESO. From my own perspective the gold costs of outfit changes are less than trivial. However, if less wealthy players feel that the gold costs are so high that it is stopping them enjoying the outfit system then they have my full support in asking for a reduction.

    This was the most expensive outfit I managed to make on PTS - IIRC it's all Celestial including 2 dual wield weapon bars, all dyed in Vekh Blue.

    wC3JeTj.jpg


    Got it even higher. Some of your items had only two dyeable slots. ZOS charges more money Per dyable slot.

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    Also dying a two-handed weapon costs TWICE as much as a one handed weapon.

    There we go. A few hairs short of 30k. And that's what they expect you to pay EVERY time you change an outfit. How the hell can people even defend this bull. 30k every time you want to switch outfits? 3 times and you're already nearing 100k! "oh I can easily make that kind of gold, it's nothing to me" my a$$. And that's ONE outfit for ONE character.

    This system isn't made as a gold sink as many people falsely believe, it is made to heavily incentivize you into the cash shop and pay through your nose for more outfit slots and outfit tokens.

    And just when you thought this game's money schemes couldn't fall into a deeper abyss. There's no friggin hell I'm paying 30k every time I want to try on something new, or pay a week's salary to ZOS for outfit slots and tokens. They can have my middle finger instead (again).

    Edited by Carbonised on February 12, 2018 8:07PM
  • MercTheMage
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    Nihility42 wrote: »
    I think they're fair. They could stand to adjust what they consider rare a little bit, but otherwise I think it's reasonable. I paid like 4k for my entire outfit when I set it up earlier.

    And I'm sure you love your new lv 1 orc looking armor.
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • SydneyGrey
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    They want to make it a gold sink, but that sucks for people like me who are always poor in the game. It sucks for new players even more. :/
  • iiYuki
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    Yes though I think it's aimed at pushing you towards the IRL cash tokens.
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  • greylox
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    Yeah it just sucks, especially as an eso plus user but it's still way too high.
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  • Elsonso
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    What are the final gold costs? Did they change from PTS?

    50g per slot to dye armor
    350g per slot to dye weapons
    100g - 6000g per slot for styles, depending on the style

    That is what I recall from PTS.
    Edited by Elsonso on February 12, 2018 8:20PM
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  • Carbonised
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    I do hope everyone realises that these exorbitant gold prices only mean that I, and all the other elite traders, just have to earn more gold, which means higher prices on all the mats and furnishings and stuff we sell in the guild stores to fund this new gold cost.

    We who have will manage, we just push the costs over to those who have not, which is hardly fair, but that's how the system works.
  • Muttsmutt
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    Yes, the outfit gold costs are too dang high
    i just played around a bit and lost 20k gold
    okay XD
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