1500 crowns per outfit slot (1 slot) just under $1200 for every slot

Tan9oSuccka

Meh. I’ll take the free one and be on my way.

RPers can fund the project then. Thx

FearlessOne_2014

Froil wrote: »

Oh honey... Honey no...

ZOS why must you ruin the good things?

Because ZO$ is not a charity. They are profit hungry gaming studio. Like any other. Tho instead of having P2W features like every other MMO on the market. ZOS decided to charge a lot for cosmetics. Which I see no issues with in the slightest bit.

Which means you are going to have to pay, for the things you want here. No matter how unjust, you may find them.

Your options or pretty simple.

A.) Buy it.

B.) Don't Buy it.

No one other then yourself, is forcing you to buy these items.

MornaBaine

Ydrisselle wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

Its so great that ZoS spent all this time and thought into developing the coding and monetization for this feature instead of looking into game/server performance issues... /s

The people who made the outfit system has nothing to do with server performance. I'm sure they don't even know what to do with that.

Typically I am inclined to agree. HOWEVER, it is becoming glaringly obvious that the bulk of the company's resources for this game are being focused on the moneization of every little thing and NOT on the overall quality of the game and player experience. No one in charge is looking at the long term health of this game and are instead focused on quick short term profit and when, like SWTOR, there's no more of that, they'll just shove the game into maintenance mode and move on to the next short-term, short-sighted shiny. So that ultimately means less staff, time, resources and the hiring of employees who really know what they are doing on the actual game play side of things. Ultimately, the focus on things like this horrible outfitting system IS hurting things like performance and overall gameplay. Because those things are NOT getting the money and attention anymore. By NOT speaking up about it, we're just hurting the game we love... or at least once loved.

Lysette

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Froil wrote: »

Oh honey... Honey no...

ZOS why must you ruin the good things?

Because ZO$ is not a charity. They are profit hungry gaming studio. Like any other. Tho instead of having P2W features like every other MMO on the market. ZOS decided to charge a lot for cosmetics. Which I see no issues with in the slightest bit.

Which means you are going to have to pay, for the things you want here. No matter how unjust, you may find them.

Your options or pretty simple.

A.) Buy it.

B.) Don't Buy it.

No one other then yourself, is forcing you to buy these items.

Whilst this is true, ZOS would be clever if they would just say now "well, we agree, we went a bit too far with this, so we will change that to account-wide" - and all would be happy and ZOS would make a great deal of money with this feature. But as it is, they will probably miss out on a lot of income, which they could have, if they would be more reasonable and less greedy.

Etrella

frausty wrote: »

Why are people so upset by something that no-one forces you to spend money on? Am I missing something here?

I understand it is overpriced and it would be nicer to have it for free or cheaper but as we didn't have it before, a little bit has been given for free as part of the patch, and for most of us it won't affect the day to day gameplay, is it really worth this amount of outpouring?

I know I'm gonna get flamed here but I am genuinely flummoxed by the response

I understand, but we just have to address the greed thats been going on with ZOS for a while. If we dont, its just going to get worse. You can sit back and do nothing, and expect a mount or a costume costing 40+ dollars in the future.

For me, and I assume for most is not all about the costume, I probably wont even use the free slot since I love my costume. This was just the Icing on the cake on a long history of greediness, and WE have to stand up and say something.

Lysette

This mount stuff is another issue - it looks more and more ridiculous to me - glowing mounts, mounts with fancy particles, burning mounts - can I just have an option to "undo" them on my client - that I see them in a normal manner without fire, glow and fuzz?- And I want a switch to not have to see the new pony - how far are we from hello kitty here?

logarifmik

Lysette wrote: »

This mount stuff is another issue - it looks more and more ridiculous to me - glowing mounts, mounts with fancy particles, burning mounts - can I just have an option to "undo" them on my client - that I see them in a normal manner without fire, glow and fuzz?- And I want a switch to not have to see the new pony - how far are we from hello kitty here?

Off topic, but yet another shame. Shame!

cabbageub17_ESO

Highlor3 wrote: »

If the "1 Outfit Slot for 1500 crowns" were an account wide slot, I would buy at least 2~4, that would make the final cost being 3000~6000 crowns, per definition those could be called "THOUSANDS OF CROWNS".

If it were 1500 per slot for your entire account I would buy 6 or so easily; maybe more.

LadyAstrum

tunepunk wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Radinyn wrote: »

Guys, there were no outfit stations before, ZOS gave you more for free, and you start your hate and even un-sub like @Mayrael


In other games players would treat developers like gods for that, but not in ESO, in ESO you only get hate.

LOL You don't get the wider picture. I have played this game for almost four years without "outfits". Couldn't care less about them, its about practices that ZOS uses on us. They implement very anticipated system but they give just a scraps of it and force you to pay insane amounts of gold for it (insane for new, returning, casuals, many pvpers, folks that like to change their builds and so on). Many of those players will spent their money for this system. Ok thats their decision. But get ready for new updates that will be made in similar way just to became "NEW STANDARD" of introducing updates. Trust me I had seen things like that in the past.

I don't have any problem with pricing, as it's not something very interesting for me. People who like their dress-up-dolls might be fine with the price. I just don't get why they waste so much time on superficial things when the game itself could use more flavor other than character styling, home styling. I just feel like effort is made to turn ESO in to a sims game, rather than fun gameplay, combat, quests, encounters, exploration, which should be the core of MMO's, not wearing matching purple pants and shoes.

That's why they added two new dungeons.

randomkeyhits

Having watched how crown crates have evolved.... radiant apex.....

and then the significant cost of the offered houses

its no surprise that ZoS will continue to push the boundaries of what they can charge.

For me this is too much but some others... who knows.

If they do get what they consider an acceptable take up then this sets a new bar for the next round of feature pricing

scary.

Lysette

cabbageub17_ESO wrote: »

Highlor3 wrote: »

If the "1 Outfit Slot for 1500 crowns" were an account wide slot, I would buy at least 2~4, that would make the final cost being 3000~6000 crowns, per definition those could be called "THOUSANDS OF CROWNS".

If it were 1500 per slot for your entire account I would buy 6 or so easily; maybe more.

Yes, that is the point, basically, if it would be account-wide, I would most likely over time get all of them, paid with subscription crowns and eventually even buy some change tokens, because I am always a little short on gold. But as it is now, I won't buy any of this, not even the tokens - why would I, if there is just one slot to use per character.

MadLarkin

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Froil wrote: »

Oh honey... Honey no...

ZOS why must you ruin the good things?

Because ZO$ is not a charity. They are profit hungry gaming studio. Like any other. Tho instead of having P2W features like every other MMO on the market. ZOS decided to charge a lot for cosmetics. Which I see no issues with in the slightest bit.

Which means you are going to have to pay, for the things you want here. No matter how unjust, you may find them.

Your options or pretty simple.

A.) Buy it.

B.) Don't Buy it.

No one other then yourself, is forcing you to buy these items.

They aren't exactly starving for avenues of profit. Base game, chapters, paid DLC, ESO+, time-limited items out the yin-yang (including $100+ homes), character slots, dyes, etc., crown crates (now with items that CAN'T be purchased with gems), cosmetics, and now this. They've essentially taken the monetization schemes from free to play AND buy to play games and smashed them together in order to see just how many ways they can get people to pony up extra dough. When is it enough?

I'll pay for a feature, but once I've paid for it, I expect to be able to use it without being asked to spend more money. If they're going to introduce "free" features that, practically speaking, shove people towards the store anyway, then just include those new features in upcoming chapters and paid DLC. In other words, don't pee on my back and tell me its raining. There has to come a point where people can spend a certain amount of money and have access to everything a game has to offer.

Every time I think about coming back because a cool feature is coming, they make last second changes as it goes live that betrays their interests. Someone is taking awesome gameplay mechanics and then monetizing the hell out of them, and it reminds me why I uninstalled every time.

frausty

Esha76 wrote: »

frausty wrote: »

Kendaric wrote: »

frausty wrote: »

Why are people so upset by something that no-one forces you to spend money on? Am I missing something here?

I understand it is overpriced and it would be nicer to have it for free or cheaper but as we didn't have it before, a little bit has been given for free as part of the patch, and for most of us it won't affect the day to day gameplay, is it really worth this amount of outpouring?

I know I'm gonna get flamed here but I am genuinely flummoxed by the response

For some of us it affects our enjoyment of the game.

I don't do dungeons or PvP, I play ESO to RP and that includes getting my characters to look as close to how I envision them to look. For me, it's what gives me a sense of accomplishment.
So, yes, I think it's worth the "amount of outpouring".

I get that, I really do. However, you didn't have this feature before yesterday and were still presumably able to RP. So what I don't understand is how makes a difference from before you had the feature. Surely, before you had it you enjoyed the game so what has changed apart from you now get one outfit slot for free?

I am not knocking you or Role Players or any other facet of the game, I just want to understand why you are so upset about it bearing in mind it is, in principle, the same game as on Sunday

It's more a study of human reaction than anything specific to ESO

Though you have already been given a perfectly reasonable and detailed explanation as to why people are upset, I will provide additional details.

I have been playing this game since early beta. I have eagerly awaited some sort of transmog/outfitting system since the start. I had spent a great deal of time, gold, and even cash, on acquiring motifs. I have 14 characters. I was looking forward to buying several outfit slots, on several characters, to utilize all the motifs I have put so much time and effort into learning. I like variety on my characters’ appearances and it’s a huge important part of my game experience. This part is not up for debate or criticism.

This was announced by ZOS, hyped, and many of us were very excited and looking forward to the system finally arriving. And when it does, it’s priced way beyond a fair and reasonable expectation. I will say this again, as others have, to give you a comparison: Each additional outfit slot costs as much as an entire new character slot.

For me, and many others, no… it’s not the same game as it was on Sunday. We were looking forward to a very exciting system we have wanted for a very very long time. It turned out to be a huge disappointment due to inflated pricing. And personally, it has left me feeling so disdainful I cancelled my Plus membership and will be focusing on other games, unless ZOS changes their position on this.

I’m also going to add, no one should have to defend their reason for why they play a game. This forum is the primary method to communicate our thoughts of the current state of the game to ZOS. So that’s why you have 13+ pages of outpouring.

Actually you are right. It's not the same game as Sunday. ZOS have given you stuff for free!! And you moan because you want more for free or on the cheap without any thought about how much it cost to develop your free gifts in the first place. Was trying to keep this light and positive with a general question but hey I guess some of you are too bitter.

Lysette

frausty wrote: »

Esha76 wrote: »

frausty wrote: »

Kendaric wrote: »

frausty wrote: »

Why are people so upset by something that no-one forces you to spend money on? Am I missing something here?

I understand it is overpriced and it would be nicer to have it for free or cheaper but as we didn't have it before, a little bit has been given for free as part of the patch, and for most of us it won't affect the day to day gameplay, is it really worth this amount of outpouring?

I know I'm gonna get flamed here but I am genuinely flummoxed by the response

For some of us it affects our enjoyment of the game.

I don't do dungeons or PvP, I play ESO to RP and that includes getting my characters to look as close to how I envision them to look. For me, it's what gives me a sense of accomplishment.
So, yes, I think it's worth the "amount of outpouring".

I get that, I really do. However, you didn't have this feature before yesterday and were still presumably able to RP. So what I don't understand is how makes a difference from before you had the feature. Surely, before you had it you enjoyed the game so what has changed apart from you now get one outfit slot for free?

I am not knocking you or Role Players or any other facet of the game, I just want to understand why you are so upset about it bearing in mind it is, in principle, the same game as on Sunday

It's more a study of human reaction than anything specific to ESO

Though you have already been given a perfectly reasonable and detailed explanation as to why people are upset, I will provide additional details.

I have been playing this game since early beta. I have eagerly awaited some sort of transmog/outfitting system since the start. I had spent a great deal of time, gold, and even cash, on acquiring motifs. I have 14 characters. I was looking forward to buying several outfit slots, on several characters, to utilize all the motifs I have put so much time and effort into learning. I like variety on my characters’ appearances and it’s a huge important part of my game experience. This part is not up for debate or criticism.

This was announced by ZOS, hyped, and many of us were very excited and looking forward to the system finally arriving. And when it does, it’s priced way beyond a fair and reasonable expectation. I will say this again, as others have, to give you a comparison: Each additional outfit slot costs as much as an entire new character slot.

For me, and many others, no… it’s not the same game as it was on Sunday. We were looking forward to a very exciting system we have wanted for a very very long time. It turned out to be a huge disappointment due to inflated pricing. And personally, it has left me feeling so disdainful I cancelled my Plus membership and will be focusing on other games, unless ZOS changes their position on this.

I’m also going to add, no one should have to defend their reason for why they play a game. This forum is the primary method to communicate our thoughts of the current state of the game to ZOS. So that’s why you have 13+ pages of outpouring.

Actually you are right. It's not the same game as Sunday. ZOS have given you stuff for free!! And you moan because you want more for free or on the cheap without any thought about how much it cost to develop your free gifts in the first place. Was trying to keep this light and positive with a general question but hey I guess some of you are too bitter.

Frausty, you are right, we got something for free - but it is a teaser for an overpriced feature - like with drugs, the first is free, and that is how this feels with these outfit slots - it is just a method to drag us into buying their overpriced slots and tokens.

And from an economical perspective that is not good for ZOS as well - they will not make more money with it, but less than they could have with a reasonable and more customer-friendly pricing - so it is a loss-loss situation, not a win-win.

heaven13

RPers always end up getting the short end of the stick (I'm not even one myself unless we're talking making decisions your character would make alone out in the world). Housing was something that a lot of RPers wanted, heavily monetized. Outfit system - RPers will get more use out of it than Joe123 who just wants to change his ugly monster shoulders. But RPers are the ones who have to 'fund' it.

Am always amused when the people pop in and say "I don't care about this, but I think it's priced reasonably" and those that feel the need to remind people that ZoS is not a charity. If ZoS targeted a 'free' update like this towards another crowd (competitive end-gamers, PVPers) and then said 'oh, by the way, we'll need x amount of real money for you to enjoy this feature the way we promoted it' there would be outrage just like now.

No one asked for this to be free. No one is saying that they think ALL the slots should be freely given. No one is asking for a handout or asking ZoS to become a non-profit company. The outrage is the completely outrageous and exorbitant pricing. Lower the cost of the outfit slots to be reasonable or keep the cost and make it an account wide thing, people will be much happier.

Caoimheal

I personally think to balance this the cost to change your one free outfit should be a lot less. At least in line with the cost that other MMOs charge for their outfit designers.

Raideen

Caoimheal wrote: »

I personally think to balance this the cost to change your one free outfit should be a lot less. At least in line with the cost that other MMOs charge for their outfit designers.

The whole point in charging a ton of gold (cost me 26k to make my outfit) is to persuade players to purchase a token from the crown store for 4 bucks instead.

This is what I hate about the crown store, the game is being designed around it affecting gameplay for those who already show commitment through a sub.

When fun takes a back seat to profit, its a tell tale sign that squeezing every penny out of the game is priority, not its development or longevity.

Ydrisselle

frausty wrote: »

Esha76 wrote: »

frausty wrote: »

Kendaric wrote: »

frausty wrote: »

Why are people so upset by something that no-one forces you to spend money on? Am I missing something here?

I understand it is overpriced and it would be nicer to have it for free or cheaper but as we didn't have it before, a little bit has been given for free as part of the patch, and for most of us it won't affect the day to day gameplay, is it really worth this amount of outpouring?

I know I'm gonna get flamed here but I am genuinely flummoxed by the response

For some of us it affects our enjoyment of the game.

I don't do dungeons or PvP, I play ESO to RP and that includes getting my characters to look as close to how I envision them to look. For me, it's what gives me a sense of accomplishment.
So, yes, I think it's worth the "amount of outpouring".

I get that, I really do. However, you didn't have this feature before yesterday and were still presumably able to RP. So what I don't understand is how makes a difference from before you had the feature. Surely, before you had it you enjoyed the game so what has changed apart from you now get one outfit slot for free?

I am not knocking you or Role Players or any other facet of the game, I just want to understand why you are so upset about it bearing in mind it is, in principle, the same game as on Sunday

It's more a study of human reaction than anything specific to ESO

Though you have already been given a perfectly reasonable and detailed explanation as to why people are upset, I will provide additional details.

I have been playing this game since early beta. I have eagerly awaited some sort of transmog/outfitting system since the start. I had spent a great deal of time, gold, and even cash, on acquiring motifs. I have 14 characters. I was looking forward to buying several outfit slots, on several characters, to utilize all the motifs I have put so much time and effort into learning. I like variety on my characters’ appearances and it’s a huge important part of my game experience. This part is not up for debate or criticism.

This was announced by ZOS, hyped, and many of us were very excited and looking forward to the system finally arriving. And when it does, it’s priced way beyond a fair and reasonable expectation. I will say this again, as others have, to give you a comparison: Each additional outfit slot costs as much as an entire new character slot.

For me, and many others, no… it’s not the same game as it was on Sunday. We were looking forward to a very exciting system we have wanted for a very very long time. It turned out to be a huge disappointment due to inflated pricing. And personally, it has left me feeling so disdainful I cancelled my Plus membership and will be focusing on other games, unless ZOS changes their position on this.

I’m also going to add, no one should have to defend their reason for why they play a game. This forum is the primary method to communicate our thoughts of the current state of the game to ZOS. So that’s why you have 13+ pages of outpouring.

Actually you are right. It's not the same game as Sunday. ZOS have given you stuff for free!! And you moan because you want more for free or on the cheap without any thought about how much it cost to develop your free gifts in the first place. Was trying to keep this light and positive with a general question but hey I guess some of you are too bitter.

Here is a theoretical situation. In an update ZOS will introduce a new extra hard trial. Additionally you can only make 25 try per week per boss per account, so you can't grind out the kill eventually.

Unless you buy some extra trys from the crown store - you will get 10 more for 2000 crowns! But these trys are bound to a character.

Esha76

frausty wrote: »

Esha76 wrote: »

frausty wrote: »

Kendaric wrote: »

frausty wrote: »

Why are people so upset by something that no-one forces you to spend money on? Am I missing something here?

I understand it is overpriced and it would be nicer to have it for free or cheaper but as we didn't have it before, a little bit has been given for free as part of the patch, and for most of us it won't affect the day to day gameplay, is it really worth this amount of outpouring?

I know I'm gonna get flamed here but I am genuinely flummoxed by the response

For some of us it affects our enjoyment of the game.

I don't do dungeons or PvP, I play ESO to RP and that includes getting my characters to look as close to how I envision them to look. For me, it's what gives me a sense of accomplishment.
So, yes, I think it's worth the "amount of outpouring".

I get that, I really do. However, you didn't have this feature before yesterday and were still presumably able to RP. So what I don't understand is how makes a difference from before you had the feature. Surely, before you had it you enjoyed the game so what has changed apart from you now get one outfit slot for free?

I am not knocking you or Role Players or any other facet of the game, I just want to understand why you are so upset about it bearing in mind it is, in principle, the same game as on Sunday

It's more a study of human reaction than anything specific to ESO

Though you have already been given a perfectly reasonable and detailed explanation as to why people are upset, I will provide additional details.

I have been playing this game since early beta. I have eagerly awaited some sort of transmog/outfitting system since the start. I had spent a great deal of time, gold, and even cash, on acquiring motifs. I have 14 characters. I was looking forward to buying several outfit slots, on several characters, to utilize all the motifs I have put so much time and effort into learning. I like variety on my characters’ appearances and it’s a huge important part of my game experience. This part is not up for debate or criticism.

This was announced by ZOS, hyped, and many of us were very excited and looking forward to the system finally arriving. And when it does, it’s priced way beyond a fair and reasonable expectation. I will say this again, as others have, to give you a comparison: Each additional outfit slot costs as much as an entire new character slot.

For me, and many others, no… it’s not the same game as it was on Sunday. We were looking forward to a very exciting system we have wanted for a very very long time. It turned out to be a huge disappointment due to inflated pricing. And personally, it has left me feeling so disdainful I cancelled my Plus membership and will be focusing on other games, unless ZOS changes their position on this.

I’m also going to add, no one should have to defend their reason for why they play a game. This forum is the primary method to communicate our thoughts of the current state of the game to ZOS. So that’s why you have 13+ pages of outpouring.

Actually you are right. It's not the same game as Sunday. ZOS have given you stuff for free!! And you moan because you want more for free or on the cheap without any thought about how much it cost to develop your free gifts in the first place. Was trying to keep this light and positive with a general question but hey I guess some of you are too bitter.

Firstly where did I, or anyone in this thread, say they wanted “want more for free or on the cheap”? People are upset at how high the price is. No one asked for it to be cheap, and especially not free.

But don’t you dare come here accusing me, or anyone, of not appreciating the amount of effort and resources the developers put into this. I have funneled a ton of money into this game and supported it since before the start. That accusation is insulting my, and others’, intelligence. I will tolerate that about as much as a 1500 crown outfit slot.

And you did no such thing in regards to keeping things “light and positive”. You had an insulting tone from the start, and your last repsonse certainly proves you had no intention. The situation was politely explained to you, despite 13+ pages of it already being explained by numerous people, it was re-explained to you again. Just because you didn’t like the explanation, doesn't entitle you to return with a condescending and insulting reply.

Edited in an attempt to make this less confrontational.

Morimizo

cabbageub17_ESO wrote: »

Highlor3 wrote: »

If the "1 Outfit Slot for 1500 crowns" were an account wide slot, I would buy at least 2~4, that would make the final cost being 3000~6000 crowns, per definition those could be called "THOUSANDS OF CROWNS".

If it were 1500 per slot for your entire account I would buy 6 or so easily; maybe more.

Does anyone in marketing actually bother to assess the lost sales due to exorbitant prices? It seems many folks would have bought one or more outfit slots if it were account-wide (myself included), but will now purchase zero because it is character specific (unless they didn't have the good fortune to read the patch notes and got duped---ZOS really should be more specific in-game with this cost). Do the 'whales' really spend so much that it overcomes this loss?

Mannix1958

lordrichter wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Mannix1958 wrote: »

It's as if someone gave one access to a car of their dreams that they could design & afford and the reply is ..."Wut...how come I don't get 3?"

The better suited analogy would be " It's as if someone gave one access to a car of their dreams that they could design & afford... but you have only ONE parking space in the entire universe. Any other place where you park will cost you 100$ a minute."
Which means that you can only drive in circles and never use the car for what it's meant to be : a mean of transportation from point A to point B.

I like this analogy, with two changes.

You can buy one parking spot for $100 to $30000, but only one. You can park as long as you want, as many times as you want. You can change to a new parking spot at any time, by buying a new spot for $100-$30000.

If you want a second parking spot, that costs as much as a new car, plus the $100-$30000 when you decide where you want it to be.

Its a gawd awful analogy. I can park it...swap to a costume in my collection...show one of several armor sets...go back to mine...change it if I like. I just can't afford all the cars I'd like to design...

Mannix1958

Edited

CountEdmondDantes

Lysette wrote: »

cabbageub17_ESO wrote: »

Highlor3 wrote: »

If the "1 Outfit Slot for 1500 crowns" were an account wide slot, I would buy at least 2~4, that would make the final cost being 3000~6000 crowns, per definition those could be called "THOUSANDS OF CROWNS".

If it were 1500 per slot for your entire account I would buy 6 or so easily; maybe more.

Yes, that is the point, basically, if it would be account-wide, I would most likely over time get all of them, paid with subscription crowns and eventually even buy some change tokens, because I am always a little short on gold. But as it is now, I won't buy any of this, not even the tokens - why would I, if there is just one slot to use per character.

Agreed. When I saw the price yesterday, I thought it was account-wide. I thought when I buy a slot at that price, I get a slot for every one of my characters and any I may create in the future. That's what makes sense. But of course, it's not how it was implemented and now it never will be.

Think about it: on this forum in another thread, some people have already posted multiple outfit images for the same character. So, of course, they bought the slots. In Glenumbra today, when I logged on, two players were attacking other players for claiming the outfit slot costs and gold costs were too high. (And being real children about it, too.) One of them said they had already bought all the slots. Maybe it was talk, but still. As long as they're willing to get out a credit card, Zenimax isn't going to change one damn thing.

And more to the point: when have they ever lowered or reversed the price or cost of a crown store item. Remember the rage at the cost of assistants (get one, buy the others). They still sell for the same price. Remember the rage at the cost of houses? They still sell for as much as my son pays for a car payment. Price hasn't changed.

For there to be a change, players - all players - would have to stop buying slots. Just not buy them. At all. But clearly that isn't happening. And this isn't a Battlegrounds II situation: there isn't enough fan voice power to force a change. I'm afraid this is the way it's going to be for a long time.

notimetocare

Wing wrote: »

so over 13k crowns for all 9

or $100 at the most efficient crown bundle

fyi it was like 350 per slot on the test server

or more expensive then over 2 chapters (so do you want 2 eso chapters or 9 cosmetic slots?)

seems a little bit insane.

btw slots are per character as confirmed in this thread so its actually $100 PER CHARACTER

so 12 characters total x 13,500 crowns per character plus 1500 crowns for the 4 character slots above base 8 in the first place (6k crowns total) is a grand total of. . .

one hundred and sixty eight thousand crowns 168,000

at the most efficient crown bundle (21,000 crowns for $149.99) that's just under $1200 before tax

K. Who is forcing you to get them all? This is a feature tons of people wanted. You get it free and a free outfit slot. After that, gotta pay. This game is a business not a charity

monktoasty

If you pay 1500 dollars for outfit slots all I can say is I want your life

temjiu

frausty wrote: »

Why are people so upset by something that no-one forces you to spend money on? Am I missing something here?

I understand it is overpriced and it would be nicer to have it for free or cheaper but as we didn't have it before, a little bit has been given for free as part of the patch, and for most of us it won't affect the day to day gameplay, is it really worth this amount of outpouring?

I know I'm gonna get flamed here but I am genuinely flummoxed by the response

I think the best way to see it is twofold:
1) Imagine for a moment that ZOS started charging 500 crowns a week to unlock trials, or unlock PvP (perhaps even an unlock needed for both). Now imagine that having a Sub didn't change this at all. if you did that content pretty regularly, you'd probably be pretty pissed, wouldn't you say?
you see, I don't really do trials or PvP. trials are infrequent or usually guild based, and I simply Don't do PvP. SO I could easily say that PvP is, in my case, an optional part of the game and I wouldn't care if they charged weekly unlocks for it.

However, there is a large part of the community that finds Character Customization a VERY IMPORTANT part of their gameplay. I'm one of those players. So you may not fully agree or connect with the reasoning, but it's still there, and if you can simply accept that there are people that place priority on different things then you do you are good.

2) There are a ton of MMO's in the market that are in a similar start of Freemium, that offer much better systems for much less. Most the games I play offer multiple outfit slots for free, and more to Subs. switching items in a costume set is free for most of them, and some charge a bit of in game currency (not nearly as much as ESO does). LotRO, SWtOR, Wildstar are just 3 games I play right now that have just as extensive customization systems in place, that are far cheaper, and provide Subscriber benefits on top of that. This is why many people are outraged. We don't want it all for free. We want a comparable system that many other games have, for market competitive prices. It's as simple as that.

And before someone says that my comparison using weekly lockouts is unrealistic, I beg to differ. I really don't play PvP, I could care less that its in the game at all, and if they started charging for weekly PvP access, I'd almost be on board for that. EXCEPT: I know that there are people who really like PvP, and even though I don't, I respect that, and I'd support them in their frustrations with a weekly lockout system like the one I described above. Not because I think it's important to have PvP in the game, but because I respect their point of view and desired playstyle.

temjiu

notimetocare wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

so over 13k crowns for all 9

or $100 at the most efficient crown bundle

fyi it was like 350 per slot on the test server

or more expensive then over 2 chapters (so do you want 2 eso chapters or 9 cosmetic slots?)

seems a little bit insane.

btw slots are per character as confirmed in this thread so its actually $100 PER CHARACTER

so 12 characters total x 13,500 crowns per character plus 1500 crowns for the 4 character slots above base 8 in the first place (6k crowns total) is a grand total of. . .

one hundred and sixty eight thousand crowns 168,000

at the most efficient crown bundle (21,000 crowns for $149.99) that's just under $1200 before tax

K. Who is forcing you to get them all? This is a feature tons of people wanted. You get it free and a free outfit slot. After that, gotta pay. This game is a business not a charity

Again, like others your missing the point. Please read the thread, there are many well thought out posts with constructive criticism in them.

Loralai_907

Nobody is saying anything about wanting this to be free. I just do not understand the high crown cost and then having a gold cost of any kind in addition to that. Ideally, I would like to see the crown cost go down, and the gold cost just go away. We either earned what we have or bought some of the motifs already. We can use our dye colors freely with costumes and armor. We can use our motifs to craft armor freely. I'm just having a hard time taking all of these facts and matching them up with how this system ended up being implemented. I feel like they have a spinning wheel with all sorts of decisions on it and they just throw darts at it and run with whatever they hit with a dart.

Outfit slots should be at max 500 crowns each. You will still end up paying gold to use it after that. Which is still crap, but less crap than 1500 crowns plus gold. And no, this does not mean raise the gold cost. Do not do that.

Turbotailz

greylox wrote: »

Sticking to costumes then..

Agree because a lot of armor sets in this game aren't my favorite. This should of been account bound or if you subscribe to the game. They should of implemented 3 available slots open for outfits and if you wanted more pay for it. Three outfits is very reasonable for starters.

Pink_Violinz

I'm already struggling to keep up with my eso+, there is no way I can buy outfit slots for all my chars. Maybe my main, but there is no possible way I could pay 15 real dollars per character so I can have a little variation.