Structured Entropy vs Purifying Light...

Ultimate_Overlord · December 2017

@TheDoomsdayMonster I have been playing this game for over 3 yrs, play all classes at a relatively high level and have tried many different builds. I dont have to try your build to know its bad, or i should say it doesnt cut it in the pvp content that demands the most of your build in terms of optimization. Youre not considering something called experience and knowledge of mechanics. The comparison would be a guy coming up to a race car driver (just a comparison, dont yell at me plz) and being like "yo, dude, you should try this bike, i beat all the boys in the neighborhood with it". And ic is dead, the only people you will find there are poor pve scrubs below cp cap who are trying to get some gold.
@Minno I mean, youre a magplar main, so that point of view is understandable. If you play a class that is actually good, you will find that many different setups can work relatively well for solo pvp, and the players dont have to be too terrible to 1vx them.
And thats your way of looking at skill. Yes, the game has changed so you dont have as much control over your wins/losses anymore, but you can still play as optimally as possible to give yourself the best chance. And thats what skill is to me - making the correct play at any given point in time. Sure, you will lose to people who played less optimally, but skill still makes a difference, and theres no better way to challenge yourself than putting yourself in a solo pvp situation, against the odds, finding a way to counteract your opponents as well as possible with the options you have.

Minno · December 2017

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster I have been playing this game for over 3 yrs, play all classes at a relatively high level and have tried many different builds. I dont have to try your build to know its bad, or i should say it doesnt cut it in the pvp content that demands the most of your build in terms of optimization. Youre not considering something called experience and knowledge of mechanics. The comparison would be a guy coming up to a race car driver (just a comparison, dont yell at me plz) and being like "yo, dude, you should try this bike, i beat all the boys in the neighborhood with it". And ic is dead, the only people you will find there are poor pve scrubs below cp cap who are trying to get some gold.
@Minno I mean, youre a magplar main, so that point of view is understandable. If you play a class that is actually good, you will find that many different setups can work relatively well for solo pvp, and the players dont have to be too terrible to 1vx them.
And thats your way of looking at skill. Yes, the game has changed so you dont have as much control over your wins/losses anymore, but you can still play as optimally as possible to give yourself the best chance. And thats what skill is to me - making the correct play at any given point in time. Sure, you will lose to people who played less optimally, but skill still makes a difference, and theres no better way to challenge yourself than putting yourself in a solo pvp situation, against the odds, finding a way to counteract your opponents as well as possible with the options you have.

Yea, that is a valuable point. I mean I'll try to put myself in uncomfortable situations to see how I'll respond, but then again I'm too cautious because I know my escape mechanics are lacking.

No one can say this thread isn't constructive. Sometimes being able to teleport without Sprint outweighs healing/block in almost every scenario even when you are hit by snares/immobilzs (because you are stuck "healing" instead of finding a window to streak/teleport forcing the enemy to gap close to maintain pressure.)

It is important to test other sets and builds, too. They might be terrible, but even paper builds don't tell full pictures, especially when certain sets function differently from how their tooltips are worded. And then we can say "x set is bad, here's why these changes need to happen" instead of "that set is trash, don't bother because zos can't design". So if vamp Lord is terrible, it could be changed to grant SD for each vamp stage up to 400, this way it gives an RP flavor but max stat competitiveness.

We all agree here.

Lexxypwns · December 2017

Magplar needs to have major sorcery and run purifying light to secure kills against good players. There’s 0 debate about this.

Also, @CatchMeTrolling is a top tier player, not some pug

CatchMeTrolling · December 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Magplar needs to have major sorcery and run purifying light to secure kills against good players. There’s 0 debate about this.

Also, CatchMeTrolling is a top tier player, not some pug

Thank you

SugaComa · December 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Invigorating Drain is the best stun available for a Magicka Templar and synergizes very well with the rest of my build and so its not going anywhere...

This is the problem with templars ... The best stun (cc) should not have to some from being a vampire ...

Be a vampire you're so much stronger

Funny how I die way less do way more damage as a none vampire compared to being one

Being a vampire isn't as easy as just being a vampire it takes a set of skills I just don't have but I'm gimped by zos not having a decent cc for a native Templar

Back to the topic at hand ..sorry for the tangent

Subversus · December 2017

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Croblasta wrote: »

What is the reason everyone hates on rattlecage? I understand you can get major sorcery from entropy or pots, but does that make rattlecage bad?

Doesn’t it get expensive using spell power pots? I don’t pvp a lot, but I’m looking to start on my magplar.

Thanks for your help.

Rattlecage sacrifices roughly 200 spell damage worth of utility in the 5 piece (comparing it to Julianos) to free up one skill slot--plus slotting entropy gets you 2% more max magicka and magicka regen, plus a cheap skoria trigger, plus an okay HoT (esp with the extra heal from degeneration).

I've yet to find a skill I need on my bar so badly that I'm willing to give up all that (and run rattlecage).

...that being said, it's not *that* terrible and some people really like it.

The other alternative, chugging spellpower pots isn't cheap--but neither is my current tripot addiction.

Or you can just be an Argonian and eat a spell power tripot.

Because balance.

Best post in this thread

Subversus · December 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.

@Ultimate_Overlord

You call my build garbage, but have you used it yourself or seen it in action?

A simple yes or no answer will do...

Of course an answer of no is an admission that you are speaking ignorantly as you are speaking on something you've never seen in action or experienced 1st hand...

You are in this thread doing what a few others have done before; filling it up with BS assumptions that are not true...

Either debate the thread topic or check out of this thread...

It's that simple...

What platform are you on? If you're on PC EU if be happy to kill you 1v1 over and over again until you realize that your build is hot trash. Saying vampire lord is anything but garbage in pvp proves how ignorant you really are.

And who the hell runs Combat Physician on a magplar? Out of all the classes you can run it on, you decide to run it on a magplar? LMAO this guy is hilarious.

TheDoomsdayMonster · December 2017

Subversus wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.

@Ultimate_Overlord

You call my build garbage, but have you used it yourself or seen it in action?

A simple yes or no answer will do...

Of course an answer of no is an admission that you are speaking ignorantly as you are speaking on something you've never seen in action or experienced 1st hand...

You are in this thread doing what a few others have done before; filling it up with BS assumptions that are not true...

Either debate the thread topic or check out of this thread...

It's that simple...

What platform are you on? If you're on PC EU if be happy to kill you 1v1 over and over again until you realize that your build is hot trash. Saying vampire lord is anything but garbage in pvp proves how ignorant you really are.

And who the hell runs Combat Physician on a magplar? Out of all the classes you can run it on, you decide to run it on a magplar? LMAO this guy is hilarious.

Ignorant is making judgements about something you have no knowledge about and haven't experienced 1st hand...

If you haven't used my build or seen it in action 1st hand, then you are the ignorant one here based on the above criteria...

But your opinion on the merits of my build mean absolutely nothing to me...

Those that have actually used the build seem to like it...

Of course my build is completely off topic...

So are you here to troll or debate the merits of Purifying Light vs Structured Entropy?

Subversus · December 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.

@Ultimate_Overlord

You call my build garbage, but have you used it yourself or seen it in action?

A simple yes or no answer will do...

Of course an answer of no is an admission that you are speaking ignorantly as you are speaking on something you've never seen in action or experienced 1st hand...

You are in this thread doing what a few others have done before; filling it up with BS assumptions that are not true...

Either debate the thread topic or check out of this thread...

It's that simple...

What platform are you on? If you're on PC EU if be happy to kill you 1v1 over and over again until you realize that your build is hot trash. Saying vampire lord is anything but garbage in pvp proves how ignorant you really are.

And who the hell runs Combat Physician on a magplar? Out of all the classes you can run it on, you decide to run it on a magplar? LMAO this guy is hilarious.

Ignorant is making judgements about something you have no knowledge about and haven't experienced 1st hand...

If you haven't used my build or seen it in action 1st hand, then you are the ignorant one here based on the above criteria...

But your opinion on the merits of my build mean absolutely nothing to me...

Those that have actually used the build seem to like it...

Of course my build is completely off topic...

So are you here to troll or debate the merits of Purifying Light vs Structured Entropy?

I don't need to use a build to know it's trash. You're using vampire lord, please tell me to what extent is it better than julianos or war maiden as a dps set? It's not, it only buffs 2 skills while julianos buffs both heals and damage and war maiden simply buffs everything instead. It's absurd that you'd even consider that a good set and then call yourself good.

And combat physician on a magplar in PVP? I don't need to try it to know it's ***. My light attacks do 2k on my magblade, how is a 4k shield every 6 seconds any better than riposte or transmutation?

It's called common sense, not ignorance. Coming from someone who says that stamblade is worse than stamdk says miles about who you really are.

How do you even have the nerve to give advice when you should take advice yourself?

Taylor_MB · December 2017

Oh look it's this guy/girl again.

Have fun sense talking people, you'll get no where.

TheDoomsdayMonster · December 2017

Subversus wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.

@Ultimate_Overlord

You call my build garbage, but have you used it yourself or seen it in action?

A simple yes or no answer will do...

Of course an answer of no is an admission that you are speaking ignorantly as you are speaking on something you've never seen in action or experienced 1st hand...

You are in this thread doing what a few others have done before; filling it up with BS assumptions that are not true...

Either debate the thread topic or check out of this thread...

It's that simple...

What platform are you on? If you're on PC EU if be happy to kill you 1v1 over and over again until you realize that your build is hot trash. Saying vampire lord is anything but garbage in pvp proves how ignorant you really are.

And who the hell runs Combat Physician on a magplar? Out of all the classes you can run it on, you decide to run it on a magplar? LMAO this guy is hilarious.

Ignorant is making judgements about something you have no knowledge about and haven't experienced 1st hand...

If you haven't used my build or seen it in action 1st hand, then you are the ignorant one here based on the above criteria...

But your opinion on the merits of my build mean absolutely nothing to me...

Those that have actually used the build seem to like it...

Of course my build is completely off topic...

So are you here to troll or debate the merits of Purifying Light vs Structured Entropy?

I don't need to use a build to know it's trash. You're using vampire lord, please tell me to what extent is it better than julianos or war maiden as a dps set? It's not, it only buffs 2 skills while julianos buffs both heals and damage and war maiden simply buffs everything instead. It's absurd that you'd even consider that a good set and then call yourself good.

And combat physician on a magplar in PVP? I don't need to try it to know it's ***. My light attacks do 2k on my magblade, how is a 4k shield every 6 seconds any better than riposte or transmutation?

It's called common sense, not ignorance. Coming from someone who says that stamblade is worse than stamdk says miles about who you really are.

How do you even have the nerve to give advice when you should take advice yourself?

Thanks for admitting to your ignorance...

Concession accepted...

Vampire Lord will make Devouring Swarm and Invigorating Drain hit harder than Julianos ever would, and Vampire Lord reduces the Ultimate Cost of Devouring Swarm and the Magicka Cost of Invigorating Drain as well...

As pertains War Maiden vs Vampire Lord, someone who is ignorant to the benefits (not just what you see on paper) of the Vampire Lord gear like yourself would not know some of the subtle things Vampire Lord brings to the table over War Maiden...

For example, both sets buff the Spell Damage of Devouring Swarm to an equal degree, so with that said, you'd expect the tool tips for both to be identical as pertains to Devouring Swarm...wouldn't you?

Well guess what? The tool tips between the two are NOT identical; while the damage is identical, Devouring Swarm provides greater healing when used with the Vampire Lord gear opposed to War Maiden...

There is more goodness to the Vampire Lord gear as well, but you wouldn't know about it, because you are on here speaking purely with your ignorance of the subject matter on display...

As pertains Combat Physician vs the sets you mentioned (particularly Riposte), Combat Physician can negate 41k damage per minute with a proper build (like mines), so with that said, do you know how much damage a Riposte user will have to withstand (in a 1v1 scenario) in a 1 minute span to negate 41k damage?

Around 270k damage...

Just think about that for a moment...

Inaddition, Combat Physician will negate damage from any source (except Oblivion damage over course)...

Tell me, will Riposte protect me from Seige Weapons better than Combat Physician will? Nope...

Will Riposte provide greater benefit than Combat Physician when in Imperial City taking on a boss monster? Nope...

All in all, you haven't thought it all through, but with ignorance such as yours, what else could I expect?

And of course, once again, all of this is off topic; so you are here to troll things that are off topic then?

My build is irrelevant as pertains the question this thread asks...

Subversus · December 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.

@Ultimate_Overlord

You call my build garbage, but have you used it yourself or seen it in action?

A simple yes or no answer will do...

Of course an answer of no is an admission that you are speaking ignorantly as you are speaking on something you've never seen in action or experienced 1st hand...

You are in this thread doing what a few others have done before; filling it up with BS assumptions that are not true...

Either debate the thread topic or check out of this thread...

It's that simple...

What platform are you on? If you're on PC EU if be happy to kill you 1v1 over and over again until you realize that your build is hot trash. Saying vampire lord is anything but garbage in pvp proves how ignorant you really are.

And who the hell runs Combat Physician on a magplar? Out of all the classes you can run it on, you decide to run it on a magplar? LMAO this guy is hilarious.

Ignorant is making judgements about something you have no knowledge about and haven't experienced 1st hand...

If you haven't used my build or seen it in action 1st hand, then you are the ignorant one here based on the above criteria...

But your opinion on the merits of my build mean absolutely nothing to me...

Those that have actually used the build seem to like it...

Of course my build is completely off topic...

So are you here to troll or debate the merits of Purifying Light vs Structured Entropy?

I don't need to use a build to know it's trash. You're using vampire lord, please tell me to what extent is it better than julianos or war maiden as a dps set? It's not, it only buffs 2 skills while julianos buffs both heals and damage and war maiden simply buffs everything instead. It's absurd that you'd even consider that a good set and then call yourself good.

And combat physician on a magplar in PVP? I don't need to try it to know it's ***. My light attacks do 2k on my magblade, how is a 4k shield every 6 seconds any better than riposte or transmutation?

It's called common sense, not ignorance. Coming from someone who says that stamblade is worse than stamdk says miles about who you really are.

How do you even have the nerve to give advice when you should take advice yourself?

Thanks for admitting to your ignorance...

Concession accepted...

Vampire Lord will make Devouring Swarm and Invigorating Drain hit harder than Julianos ever would, and Vampire Lord reduces the Ultimate Cost of Devouring Swarm and the Magicka Cost of Invigorating Drain as well...

As pertains War Maiden vs Vampire Lord, someone who is ignorant to the benefits (not just what you see on paper) of the Vampire Lord gear like yourself would not know some of the subtle things Vampire Lord brings to the table over War Maiden...

For example, both sets buff the Spell Damage of Devouring Swarm to an equal degree, so with that said, you'd expect the tool tips for both to be identical as pertains to Devouring Swarm...wouldn't you?

Well guess what? The tool tips between the two are NOT identical; while the damage is identical, Devouring Swarm provides greater healing when used with the Vampire Lord gear opposed to War Maiden...

There is more goodness to the Vampire Lord gear as well, but you wouldn't know about it, because you are on here speaking purely with your ignorance of the subject matter on display...

As pertains Combat Physician vs the sets you mentioned (particularly Riposte), Combat Physician can negate 41k damage per minute with a proper build (like mines), so with that said, do you know how much damage a Riposte user will have to withstand (in a 1v1 scenario) in a 1 minute span to negate 41k damage?

Around 270k damage...

Just think about that for a moment...

Inaddition, Combat Physician will negate damage from any source (except Oblivion damage over course)...

Tell me, will Riposte protect me from Seige Weapons better than Combat Physician will? Nope...

Will Riposte provide greater benefit than Combat Physician when in Imperial City taking on a boss monster? Nope...

All in all, you haven't thought it all through, but with ignorance such as yours, what else could I expect?

And of course, once again, all of this is off topic; so you are here to troll things that are off topic then?

My build is irrelevant as pertains the question this thread asks...

I literally lost brain cells reading that wall of crap. You are living in delusion, and nobody can bring you out of it.

Have fun being bad, you're known on the forums as "that moron with the crap build". That should come as a warning sign, but you're far too unintelligent to realize.

There isn't a single good player in here that can say your build is good, yet you say it is? Delusion in a nutshell. I don't have to talk sense into you, you're a literal nobody.

Roaldy · December 2017

I think this could be one of the worst templar builds I have ever seen the lols here!

Subversus · December 2017

Roaldy wrote: »

I think this could be one of the worst templar builds I have ever seen the lols here!

How dare you call that build bad? You're so ignorant!!! Have you actually played it? No you haven't!!!!! You just showed your ignorance here!!!! Are you gonna troll or give feedback on whether the OP should use purifying light or entropy (both mandatory skills)????

Roaldy · December 2017

Subversus wrote: »

Roaldy wrote: »

I think this could be one of the worst templar builds I have ever seen the lols here!

How dare you call that build bad? You're so ignorant!!! Have you actually played it? No you haven't!!!!! You just showed your ignorance here!!!! Are you gonna troll or give feedback on whether the OP should use purifying light or entropy (both mandatory skills)????

But but... I thought pointing out his build is trash was feedback? I'm the worst!!!!!!!!

Subversus · December 2017

Roaldy wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Roaldy wrote: »

I think this could be one of the worst templar builds I have ever seen the lols here!

How dare you call that build bad? You're so ignorant!!! Have you actually played it? No you haven't!!!!! You just showed your ignorance here!!!! Are you gonna troll or give feedback on whether the OP should use purifying light or entropy (both mandatory skills)????

But but... I thought pointing out his build is trash was feedback? I'm the worst!!!!!!!!

Stop being ignorant!!!! Vampire lord buffs mist form and drain, two very vital skills for a magicka templar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And a 4k shield every second is much better than riposte or transmutation because pve mobs in IC are hard!!!!!!!

Roaldy · December 2017

Subversus wrote: »

Roaldy wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Roaldy wrote: »

I think this could be one of the worst templar builds I have ever seen the lols here!

How dare you call that build bad? You're so ignorant!!! Have you actually played it? No you haven't!!!!! You just showed your ignorance here!!!! Are you gonna troll or give feedback on whether the OP should use purifying light or entropy (both mandatory skills)????

But but... I thought pointing out his build is trash was feedback? I'm the worst!!!!!!!!

Stop being ignorant!!!! Vampire lord buffs mist form and drain, two very vital skills for a magicka templar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And a 4k shield every second is much better than riposte or transmutation because pve mobs in IC are hard!!!!!!!

After thinking about my life and how awful my spinners/skoria/duorks is I am not a full beliver in vampire Lord!! ! I've only played it fo about 20mins and die 30 times it's so much better haul vampire Lord!! !

Roaldy · December 2017

Roaldy wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Roaldy wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Roaldy wrote: »

I think this could be one of the worst templar builds I have ever seen the lols here!

How dare you call that build bad? You're so ignorant!!! Have you actually played it? No you haven't!!!!! You just showed your ignorance here!!!! Are you gonna troll or give feedback on whether the OP should use purifying light or entropy (both mandatory skills)????

But but... I thought pointing out his build is trash was feedback? I'm the worst!!!!!!!!

Stop being ignorant!!!! Vampire lord buffs mist form and drain, two very vital skills for a magicka templar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And a 4k shield every second is much better than riposte or transmutation because pve mobs in IC are hard!!!!!!!

After thinking about my life and how awful my spinners/skoria/duorks is I am not a full beliver in vampire Lord!! ! I've only played it fo about 20mins and die 30 times it's so much better haul vampire Lord!! !

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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · December 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

If you're not getting major sorcery from somewhere else, then you're just a block BoL bot without Structured Entropy.

If you can find 9 other abilities that are better than Purifying Light, I question your evaluation of those abilities.

What you say here is completely wrong...

Not having Structured Entropy doesn't automatically make you a "block BoL bot" (I don't even run 1h/Shield); I don't know how you came to such an absurd conclusion...

It makes no sense...

As for finding 9 other abilities better than Purifying Light, this is just ignorant talk on your part; your overall build and how well everything synergizes with one another mean far more than simply declaring one ability to be better than another...

One of my bars is exclusively for Healing and Defense, so as pertains performing those functions, all of those abilities on that bar are superior to Purifying Light; that probably doesn't make sense to you though given how limited your thinking seems to be...

On my offensive bar, Toppling Charge and Puncturing Sweeps are joined at the hip as far as I can see, and I wont run one of those without the other...

Radiant Magelight is a mainstay as well as I always run with high Spell Crit and I never leave home without a defense to Nightblades on my tool bar (I love its usefulness as pertains to keeping Nightblades from going back into Stealth as well)...

Invigorating Drain is the best stun available for a Magicka Templar and synergizes very well with the rest of my build and so its not going anywhere...

That leaves only one more slot; thus the choice between Structured Entropy and Purifying Light....

So you see, its not as you think when it comes to evaluating abilities @Joy_Division...

You evaluate overall builds and see which abilities synergize best with whatever you built your character to excell at...

Holy crap. Ten paragraphs and at each one you have an ellipsis. Did you just like wonder off at the end of each one?

Subversus · December 2017

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

If you're not getting major sorcery from somewhere else, then you're just a block BoL bot without Structured Entropy.

If you can find 9 other abilities that are better than Purifying Light, I question your evaluation of those abilities.

What you say here is completely wrong...

Not having Structured Entropy doesn't automatically make you a "block BoL bot" (I don't even run 1h/Shield); I don't know how you came to such an absurd conclusion...

It makes no sense...

As for finding 9 other abilities better than Purifying Light, this is just ignorant talk on your part; your overall build and how well everything synergizes with one another mean far more than simply declaring one ability to be better than another...

One of my bars is exclusively for Healing and Defense, so as pertains performing those functions, all of those abilities on that bar are superior to Purifying Light; that probably doesn't make sense to you though given how limited your thinking seems to be...

On my offensive bar, Toppling Charge and Puncturing Sweeps are joined at the hip as far as I can see, and I wont run one of those without the other...

Radiant Magelight is a mainstay as well as I always run with high Spell Crit and I never leave home without a defense to Nightblades on my tool bar (I love its usefulness as pertains to keeping Nightblades from going back into Stealth as well)...

Invigorating Drain is the best stun available for a Magicka Templar and synergizes very well with the rest of my build and so its not going anywhere...

That leaves only one more slot; thus the choice between Structured Entropy and Purifying Light....

So you see, its not as you think when it comes to evaluating abilities @Joy_Division...

You evaluate overall builds and see which abilities synergize best with whatever you built your character to excell at...

Holy crap. Ten paragraphs and at each one you have an ellipsis. Did you just like wonder off at the end of each one?

So ignorant!!! You just showed your full ignorance here!!! Have you ever actually used ellipses after every paragraph??? Of course you haven't...

Brutusmax1mus · December 2017

Subversus wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

If you're not getting major sorcery from somewhere else, then you're just a block BoL bot without Structured Entropy.

If you can find 9 other abilities that are better than Purifying Light, I question your evaluation of those abilities.

What you say here is completely wrong...

Not having Structured Entropy doesn't automatically make you a "block BoL bot" (I don't even run 1h/Shield); I don't know how you came to such an absurd conclusion...

It makes no sense...

As for finding 9 other abilities better than Purifying Light, this is just ignorant talk on your part; your overall build and how well everything synergizes with one another mean far more than simply declaring one ability to be better than another...

One of my bars is exclusively for Healing and Defense, so as pertains performing those functions, all of those abilities on that bar are superior to Purifying Light; that probably doesn't make sense to you though given how limited your thinking seems to be...

On my offensive bar, Toppling Charge and Puncturing Sweeps are joined at the hip as far as I can see, and I wont run one of those without the other...

Radiant Magelight is a mainstay as well as I always run with high Spell Crit and I never leave home without a defense to Nightblades on my tool bar (I love its usefulness as pertains to keeping Nightblades from going back into Stealth as well)...

Invigorating Drain is the best stun available for a Magicka Templar and synergizes very well with the rest of my build and so its not going anywhere...

That leaves only one more slot; thus the choice between Structured Entropy and Purifying Light....

So you see, its not as you think when it comes to evaluating abilities @Joy_Division...

You evaluate overall builds and see which abilities synergize best with whatever you built your character to excell at...

Holy crap. Ten paragraphs and at each one you have an ellipsis. Did you just like wonder off at the end of each one?

So ignorant!!! You just showed your full ignorance here!!! Have you ever actually used ellipses after every paragraph??? Of course you haven't...

Rofl Jesus man, you're brutal. ...

Lexxypwns · December 2017

Oh, to everyone saying that drain is the best stun a magplar has... it’s destro reach by a mile

Subversus · December 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Oh, to everyone saying that drain is the best stun a magplar has... it’s destro reach by a mile

I would assume so, I see some good magplars using lightning reach in duels. Seems pretty strong!

Albeit the best stun a magplar has in duels (from my experience dueling them on different classes) is reverb/reflect from sword and shield, swapping them out depending if it's a stam or a mag opponent. That's what I see others do, both are brutal.

Brutusmax1mus · December 2017

Subversus wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Oh, to everyone saying that drain is the best stun a magplar has... it’s destro reach by a mile

I would assume so, I see some good magplars using lightning reach in duels. Seems pretty strong!

Albeit the best stun a magplar has in duels (from my experience dueling them on different classes) is reverb/reflect from sword and shield, swapping them out depending if it's a stam or a mag opponent. That's what I see others do, both are brutal.

I use reverb on mine most of the time.

pieratsos · December 2017

My favourite is when he suggested his vampire lord build for vMA. Yep what could possibly go wrong.

Firstmep · December 2017

I get by with toppling Charge and total dark in open world, but Yeah reverb is a great choice aganist melee targets that sit in your face 24 7

Subversus · December 2017

pieratsos wrote: »

My favourite is when he suggested his vampire lord build for vMA. Yep what could possibly go wrong.

LUL

Firstmep wrote: »

I get by with toppling Charge and total dark in open world, but Yeah reverb is a great choice aganist melee targets that sit in your face 24 7

Total dark is very good in conjunction with a burst combo tbf.

LordSlif · December 2017

Entropy

LordSlif · December 2017

I have the same problem...

Dredlord · December 2017

Subversus wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

If you're not getting major sorcery from somewhere else, then you're just a block BoL bot without Structured Entropy.

If you can find 9 other abilities that are better than Purifying Light, I question your evaluation of those abilities.

What you say here is completely wrong...

Not having Structured Entropy doesn't automatically make you a "block BoL bot" (I don't even run 1h/Shield); I don't know how you came to such an absurd conclusion...

It makes no sense...

As for finding 9 other abilities better than Purifying Light, this is just ignorant talk on your part; your overall build and how well everything synergizes with one another mean far more than simply declaring one ability to be better than another...

One of my bars is exclusively for Healing and Defense, so as pertains performing those functions, all of those abilities on that bar are superior to Purifying Light; that probably doesn't make sense to you though given how limited your thinking seems to be...

On my offensive bar, Toppling Charge and Puncturing Sweeps are joined at the hip as far as I can see, and I wont run one of those without the other...

Radiant Magelight is a mainstay as well as I always run with high Spell Crit and I never leave home without a defense to Nightblades on my tool bar (I love its usefulness as pertains to keeping Nightblades from going back into Stealth as well)...

Invigorating Drain is the best stun available for a Magicka Templar and synergizes very well with the rest of my build and so its not going anywhere...

That leaves only one more slot; thus the choice between Structured Entropy and Purifying Light....

So you see, its not as you think when it comes to evaluating abilities @Joy_Division...

You evaluate overall builds and see which abilities synergize best with whatever you built your character to excell at...

Holy crap. Ten paragraphs and at each one you have an ellipsis. Did you just like wonder off at the end of each one?

So ignorant!!! You just showed your full ignorance here!!! Have you ever actually used ellipses after every paragraph??? Of course you haven't...

Best post in the thread...

Win...

Alll....

Over.....