TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Wait, do you mean per cast? That would make sense.
No, it's per Sweep...not per cast.
At current, one cast of Sweeps (with Purifying Light and Continuous Assault) can net me around 24k damage against the trash in the Sewers...
With my Spell Crit being at 63%, I get around 18k damage total on average (with average being 2 Crit and 2 non Crits)...
I think you are seeing burning light procs with ESO's DMG counter. 6400 crit divided by 1.5 crit DMG modifier is about 4266 (which points towards burning light).
I know I used to think the same due to how much the visual opacity for that number hides the sweeps numbers'font.
Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Either way, you should try to have both degeneration and purifying on your bar. Purifying one of the best damage dealing AND/OR support skills in the game for group pvp. The heals as well, so you can have up to 6 pools healing your team.
TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Either way, you should try to have both degeneration and purifying on your bar. Purifying one of the best damage dealing AND/OR support skills in the game for group pvp. The heals as well, so you can have up to 6 pools healing your team.
Now on this point, we 100% see eye to eye with one another...
Purifying Light is awesome...
I'd even take it one step further and say that its one of the best abilities solo as well...
TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »One of my bars is exclusively for Healing and Defense, so as pertains performing those functions, all of those abilities on that bar are superior to Purifying Light; that probably doesn't make sense to you though given how limited your thinking seems to be...
Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.
Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »CatchMeTrolling While i did apologise in advance, i guess it was a bit too agressive and unreasonable of me to say that, though you were kind of agressive towards me as well. But, op did mention large group pvp, and since you did say that you are a solo magplar player, you should agree that, considering his build and questionable choices, the only type of content op could perform well in is zerging/xv1. I am not bashing on him due to him having a different opinion, its not just different - its objectively flawed. You can see how inexperienced and delusional he is, dont agree with him, otherwise you are just feeding his ignorance.
Joy_Division wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Either way, you should try to have both degeneration and purifying on your bar. Purifying one of the best damage dealing AND/OR support skills in the game for group pvp. The heals as well, so you can have up to 6 pools healing your team.
Now on this point, we 100% see eye to eye with one another...
Purifying Light is awesome...
I'd even take it one step further and say that its one of the best abilities solo as well...TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »One of my bars is exclusively for Healing and Defense, so as pertains performing those functions, all of those abilities on that bar are superior to Purifying Light; that probably doesn't make sense to you though given how limited your thinking seems to be...
Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.
Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.
Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.
Magplars, magplars... Let's stop all this bickering amongst ourselves. We need to unify and continue the neverending forum-crusade against the next batch of Templar nerfs.
But definitely run Purifying Light in PvP.
BroanBeast1215 wrote: »Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.
lol qft and qfe
TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »BroanBeast1215 wrote: »Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.
lol qft and qfe
You are quoting ignorance that rivals your own...
I do Imperial City more than anything, so I fail to see how that fits in with horse simulator and zerg surfing...
@Ultimate_Overlord is speaking ignorantly in the post you quoted; just as you did earlier...
BroanBeast1215 wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »BroanBeast1215 wrote: »Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »Theres a difference between playing solo and zerg surfing. @TheDoomsdayMonster You say you sometimes manage to 1vx, but what happens the rest of the time? Horse simulator? 1v1s? Any half competent player would destroy your pile of garbage build 1v1, and thats just the truth, and if youre saying that you can actually play solo without being outnumbered 99% of the time then youre lying.
And before anyone says his build isnt garbage: hes a full divines vamp in light using combat physician.
Either way, my point will prob fly right by the op, since high lvl performance is a foreign concept to him, considering that the "good players" he kills die to his super complex bats+jab spam combo, as he mentioned in other threads. Its kinda scary to think what is actually considered bad performance by him if he sets his bar this low. I could also go on about any decent player never dying to a magplar without pol, or the op contradicting himself countless times.
@CatchMeTrolling I am sorry are you that console guy that got 1vxed as emp back in the day?
@Minno My point is that playing in a group larger than 3 is easy, speaking from experience, and if youre playing solo-trio you will inevitably be outnumbered most of the time in cyro. You can bash 1vxers for killing pve scrubs a lot of the time, that doesnt change the fact that its still objectively the most skill demanding plastyle in the game.
lol qft and qfe
You are quoting ignorance that rivals your own...
I do Imperial City more than anything, so I fail to see how that fits in with horse simulator and zerg surfing...
@Ultimate_Overlord is speaking ignorantly in the post you quoted; just as you did earlier...
the same way I know the combo of plague doctor+green pact isn't viable for pvp I know your build is a hot mess. sorry not sorry
Brutusmax1mus wrote: »There's no debate @TheDoomsdayMonster . If you're not getting major sorcery from potions, u need entropy. If you aren't using purifying light, you're not killing anyone good.
TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »There's no debate @TheDoomsdayMonster . If you're not getting major sorcery from potions, u need entropy. If you aren't using purifying light, you're not killing anyone good.
Let's simplify this...
Let's throw builds, what can be done to improve them, and all the rest out the window...
Forget those things...
Let's pretend someone put a gun to your head and forced you to slot Structured Entropy OR Purifying Light...
Which would you slot?
TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »There's no debate @TheDoomsdayMonster . If you're not getting major sorcery from potions, u need entropy. If you aren't using purifying light, you're not killing anyone good.
Let's simplify this...
Let's throw builds, what can be done to improve them, and all the rest out the window...
Forget those things...
Let's pretend someone put a gun to your head and forced you to slot Structured Entropy OR Purifying Light...
Which would you slot?
TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »There's no debate @TheDoomsdayMonster . If you're not getting major sorcery from potions, u need entropy. If you aren't using purifying light, you're not killing anyone good.
Let's simplify this...
Let's throw builds, what can be done to improve them, and all the rest out the window...
Forget those things...
Let's pretend someone put a gun to your head and forced you to slot Structured Entropy OR Purifying Light...
Which would you slot?
I'd say "shoot me"
This is probably not worth the effort but...
I'd follow the advice in this thread to find a way to equip both. Backlash is the greatest skill in this game, but in a vacuum it is up to you to build up its damage. For that, major sorcery is a really big deal, and that little synergy between the buff and backlash contributes a lot. Imo, if you want to play as a killer magplar and are trying to decide between which of the two to take, you're making the wrong choice. It shouldn't be between those two; you're overvaluing another part of your build, and may need to make a tough choice to let it go.
Also, while I only skimmed the rest of this thread, I think the OP should consider the possibility that the balance of the game really isn't so great as to allow many different "truly viable" options as far as each play style goes. Add this with how balance really hasn't changed much over the recent years, giving long-time, dedicated players the opportunity to examine the possibilities of many different sets and have judged them, with good reason, to be inferior to other options. Now, it has been a few months since I played, but I left the game as a broken mess with regards to balance due to a whole slew of ideological problems and I don't expect it has changed much or been dealt with effectively since.
Many serious players go through a phase where they try to understand the ins and outs to the game's balance to peer into the combat designer's mind; I know, I did it too. Just be prepared for the possibility that there isn't much there, that there is a best answer, and that the best answer is the old and boring BiS.