Disappointed with mystery box event?

mwo1480

Yes

4x8 chars now, still none of the collectables

Mettaricana

Yes

Hey needed to remove all crown consumable potions, lock picks, maps, mimic stones, and add either nore free gold selling items or massively up the plans and costume and mount drops im yet to see anyone get the houses

FlamingBeard

Yes

Narvuntien wrote: »

I don't complain about free stuff.

It isn't free, you have to complete a random dungeon (if you can even get through the TERRIBLE group finder to do so) for a Mysterious Box, so they are NOT functionally "free."

Requiring a time investment that you could be using to do something you actually ENJOY instead, is not FREE.

ZO$ overstated the benefits of this event big-time.

For an event "celebrating" the players, this kind of dumps garbage on us instead.

Waffennacht

Yes

To everyone who's like, "it's free blah blah"

First off it's a stress test which would have been fine to have heard, anything like, "we're giving you a little extra for being great players to help us!"

Then it would have been fine to have said, "you'll have a chance to get the war horse and war dog, there's a very slim chance at getting a mega bundle that includes past mounts" rather than, "you can get crown store items from now and past!"
- they implied that drops would include more crown store items, not just the 1 and the bundle

Not once did they say a large sum would NOT be crown store items. Plunder, lock picks, treasure maps, CWC furnishing plans and undaunted keys are not crown store items.

And finally, when they said duplicates would not happen, they implied the loot pool would get better as you progressed, they did not once say your item wouldn't be replaced, that instead of a duplicate you get nothing.

This has been by far the most Misleading "event" ever. I respect honesty and would have easily been satisfied had they just said everything clearly.

That's why I'm disappointed, the trend of purposely misleading people, even by members I thought to be more straight forward than not

Shawn_PT

Yes

29 dungeons run and a single collectible (costume) dropped, one I didn't care for and didn't even know could drop (blacksmith). Everything else is pretty much useless. I'm not giving up but it's very disheartening. I was also under the impression that the loot pool would be a lot more varied, but I had the nagging suspicion 99% of it would be trash when I noticed 'consumables' were included. At least I was not disappointed in that.

code65536

No

DocFrost72 wrote: »

As it stands, I got a 2000 crown costume

It's kinda funny how the steady inflation of crown store prices influenced how people think and remember these things.

When Dark Shaman was released over a year ago, it was 1200 crowns, not 2000. And a lot of people complained on the forums about the exorbitant 1200cr price. But that doesn't seem as outrageous these days, now that people have gotten used to special costumes often costing 2K or more.

Waffennacht

Yes

code65536 wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

As it stands, I got a 2000 crown costume

It's kinda funny how the steady inflation of crown store prices influenced how people think and remember these things.

When Dark Shaman was released over a year ago, it was 1200 crowns, not 2000. And a lot of people complained on the forums about the exorbitant 1200cr price. But that doesn't seem as outrageous these days, now that people have gotten used to special costumes often costing 2K or more.

It also cracks me up that the "value" is self imposed, it's like me giving you a pencil for free, saying it's value is 1 million dollars, then I run around yelling how I gave away 1 million dollars in value...

It's still a #$&+ing pencil.

BlanketFort

Yes

Reading up on the posts here, I kinda feel bad not being happy about getting the treasure hunter costume (imho, I found it unfitting for my toons and wasn't excited at all)... as apparently, many find it cool. I so wish I could just give it to someone who wants it, to cheer them up

Tandor

Basing it around the group finder didn't seem the brightest idea, although as a group dungeon event it was never going to appeal to me anyway and I haven't touched it. Nonetheless, it's a shame it hasn't worked out well for a good number of those who were interested in it. Hopefully lessons will be learnt!

Cazzy

Yes

I am but mainly due to the fact there's some things I can't use, trade or sell. Dyes, for example. Everything else isn't great considering the rewards you *could* get but as they're freebies I don't mind so much

Porter_H

No

Porter_H wrote: »

I've gotten the horse, dark shaman costume, and 3 clockwork recipes ( one purple, two blue). 8 or 10 Undaunted Plunder too. I had 7 characters do it on the first day and got a Templar healer to lvl 15 and crafted a Seducer's set for her so 8 dungeons the last 2 days. Not really bad for 23 runs.

I'd like the other costumes but the queue will have 7 tanks and one healer in them because I haven't gotten them yet. I don't like playing dps.

Adding today's haul so far to this....
I got the treasure hunter costume today. One of the blue recipes sold for 70k and the purple recipe is really expensive right now. I've probably gotten 10/12 Undaunted plunders too. Gold is always good. I want the chef/blacksmith costume and the dog. A house would be awesome. 2 more runs today so we'll see.

sevomd69

No

Didn't expect much...got free stuffs for doing something I do everyday anyway...

starkerealm

Yes

code65536 wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

As it stands, I got a 2000 crown costume

It's kinda funny how the steady inflation of crown store prices influenced how people think and remember these things.

When Dark Shaman was released over a year ago, it was 1200 crowns, not 2000. And a lot of people complained on the forums about the exorbitant 1200cr price. But that doesn't seem as outrageous these days, now that people have gotten used to special costumes often costing 2K or more.

IIRC, this was after the 2k hero costumes.

Waffennacht wrote: »

It also cracks me up that the "value" is self imposed, it's like me giving you a pencil for free, saying it's value is 1 million dollars, then I run around yelling how I gave away 1 million dollars in value...

It's still a #$&+ing pencil.

Welcome to the wonderful world of tax fraud.

Though, this is a fair point. If you read the official tournament rules, ZOS is legally obligated to list the cash value of each prize. For that prize where you get all of the crown store collectibles, the listed value is, $0.

LadyAstrum

Yes

I wanted to vote 'No', but today I do feel somewhat disappointed. I think loot selection is pitiful. I've been playing two months, and I thought the Halloween witch event was horrible for loot. ZoS, you need to work on your loot selection. Clockwork recipes...I love! Treasure maps, dye stamps are an annoyance, because you know the majority don't care about these. I wanted the Imperial horse....and I know I won't get one. Eight characters, multiple runs...and the loot is pitiful.

This event would have been mind-blowingly good with better loot. Why couldn't there have been even more recipe types? More costume types? Widen the pool of loot, and up the drop rate a little. Honestly, would it kill you to make these things worthwhile? In good faith, people do these things, and are rewarded with junk. If you're lucky, you get something decent.

I'd prefer these events were token-based. You earn tokens to get what you want. This heavy reliance on RNG is becoming a joke. I've been playing for two months, and already I think ZoS lacks imagination with these events.

Yes, thank you for giving us events, but can you at least make them worth participating in?

Ilithyania

No

got a horse, and met some cool ppl

Loralai_907

I can't really say whether it is good or bad. Its good because it got me to try out dungeons with strangers. But the wait time keeps me from being able to do more. Pair that with I have other things to do right now, I had a sick kid yesterday so I didn't log in at all. I planned to use this event to push me past my anxiety, and I'm not sure that is going to happen. The loot is ok, some of the lower items should maybe be brought up a little bit, have a higher chance to get better things.

SkoomaHoover

No

Got a lockpick on two of my boxes, I got 2 costumes (both types imperial armours), I got 2 stacks of potions that I could craft better versions of but can't sell, and I got 3 experience scrolls. A few other stuff that I can't remember as well.

Can't really say i'm disappointed with the event. If they gave me lots of great stuff, it'd be unfair to the players that couldn't make the event. And I didn't really do anything to get those boxes apart form playing the game as I normally do.
So I suppose i'm alright with it.

However I can definitely say that this event has solidly made my mind up to never purchase a box. It's definitely not going to be worth the money I put in. So I suppose I should give a thanks to ZOS for sealing up my wallet for a while.

Raideen

Yes

My voice will most likely not be heard, so no point in writing a novel about my dislike for the event.

Just gonna say it sucks for all the reasons everyone before me listed.

starkerealm

Yes

LadyAstrum wrote: »

Yes, thank you for giving us events, but can you at least make them worth participating in?

The worst part is, they've actually been worth participating in. Since last year's New Life Festival, the event drop boxes have ended up with very cluttered drop tables.

Last Halloween and New Years, we had fairly clean tables that would reliably get you something interesting, even if it wasn't something you wanted. New Years in particular had a lot of stuff, but you could reliably see all of it from running a single character through the dailies a few times (except for the Fish Eye Rye. That stuff was murder to obtain.)

April had a bunch of furniture, and the daily count was ridiculously low, to the point that I'm not sure there were enough prizes to get everything on one character without trading.

This year's halloween felt a lot more... dilute. A lot of furniture taking up the slot for recipes. Just, underwhelming overall.

LadyAstrum

Yes

starkerealm wrote: »

LadyAstrum wrote: »

Yes, thank you for giving us events, but can you at least make them worth participating in?

The worst part is, they've actually been worth participating in. Since last year's New Life Festival, the event drop boxes have ended up with very cluttered drop tables.

Last Halloween and New Years, we had fairly clean tables that would reliably get you something interesting, even if it wasn't something you wanted. New Years in particular had a lot of stuff, but you could reliably see all of it from running a single character through the dailies a few times (except for the Fish Eye Rye. That stuff was murder to obtain.)

April had a bunch of furniture, and the daily count was ridiculously low, to the point that I'm not sure there were enough prizes to get everything on one character without trading.

This year's halloween felt a lot more... dilute. A lot of furniture taking up the slot for recipes. Just, underwhelming overall.

It sounds like the quality of loot dropped when the crown crates came into the picture. I hope this isn't the case. I will not stick with a game that degrades because of loot boxes.

Typical, that when I finally get around to giving this game another chance, the events churn out loot-junk.

Vizier

No

It's been OK. I haven't really gotten what I was wanting but I did get a couple of nice costumes and a valuable furniture schematic. Really want the horse but I've not been able to actually use every character once a day so all in all I can't really complain other to say I'd like a few less mimic stones and repair kits and maybe have a better chance of getting what I'm trying to get.

starkerealm

Yes

LadyAstrum wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

LadyAstrum wrote: »

Yes, thank you for giving us events, but can you at least make them worth participating in?

The worst part is, they've actually been worth participating in. Since last year's New Life Festival, the event drop boxes have ended up with very cluttered drop tables.

Last Halloween and New Years, we had fairly clean tables that would reliably get you something interesting, even if it wasn't something you wanted. New Years in particular had a lot of stuff, but you could reliably see all of it from running a single character through the dailies a few times (except for the Fish Eye Rye. That stuff was murder to obtain.)

April had a bunch of furniture, and the daily count was ridiculously low, to the point that I'm not sure there were enough prizes to get everything on one character without trading.

This year's halloween felt a lot more... dilute. A lot of furniture taking up the slot for recipes. Just, underwhelming overall.

It sounds like the quality of loot dropped when the the crown crates came into the picture. I hope this isn't the case. I will not stick with a game that degrades because of a loot boxes.

Typical, that when I finally get around to giving this game another chance, the events churn out loot-junk.

It's not the crates, it's the furniture.

Actually, I forgot to mention, the Anniversary boxes were very worth it. They had a dilute pool, but almost everything in there was worth getting. Even when you got stuff that wasn't particularly worth it, like the Celestial motif pages, it still felt like you'd gotten something that could be valuable to someone, just not you.

The others have started including furniture pieces in... and I honestly think those are supposed to be an acceptable prize, but it doesn't quite work that way. If they were added as a third, parallel, prize you got with everything else, it'd probably go over a lot better.

kyle.wilson

So far I've gotten the Treasure Hunter outfit and the Imperial Horse.
The outfit I may wear on my Argonian. I hate the mount though, reminds me of the BS horse armor from oblivion.

TheValar85

Yes

Oh Yes and i am sorry for beeing rude but i only get the damn undaunted keys, and mofit crystals, and dyes, where is the dar shaman coustume? where are the houses, where are the mounts? I dont need those god damn mofit crystals, andrepair kits, and potions, nor dyes and nor even the undaunted key anymore, oh no more undaunted chests wich worth 1000 gold. I saw one of my guild mate recieved 4 darkshaman coustume on the same character. I am very dissapointed at this point, sience nothing is droping instead of usless items, why not leav this "bonus" loot inside the game forever? Because according to this RNG method wich is built uppon in this event is not even a damn thing to cut it off of the game.

Not to mention this event is not even close to compensates the players bases because of the mistakes of the 10 million stories competition country restrictions.

LadyAstrum

Yes

starkerealm wrote: »

LadyAstrum wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

LadyAstrum wrote: »

Yes, thank you for giving us events, but can you at least make them worth participating in?

The worst part is, they've actually been worth participating in. Since last year's New Life Festival, the event drop boxes have ended up with very cluttered drop tables.

Last Halloween and New Years, we had fairly clean tables that would reliably get you something interesting, even if it wasn't something you wanted. New Years in particular had a lot of stuff, but you could reliably see all of it from running a single character through the dailies a few times (except for the Fish Eye Rye. That stuff was murder to obtain.)

April had a bunch of furniture, and the daily count was ridiculously low, to the point that I'm not sure there were enough prizes to get everything on one character without trading.

This year's halloween felt a lot more... dilute. A lot of furniture taking up the slot for recipes. Just, underwhelming overall.

It sounds like the quality of loot dropped when the the crown crates came into the picture. I hope this isn't the case. I will not stick with a game that degrades because of a loot boxes.

Typical, that when I finally get around to giving this game another chance, the events churn out loot-junk.

It's not the crates, it's the furniture.

Actually, I forgot to mention, the Anniversary boxes were very worth it. They had a dilute pool, but almost everything in there was worth getting. Even when you got stuff that wasn't particularly worth it, like the Celestial motif pages, it still felt like you'd gotten something that could be valuable to someone, just not you.

The others have started including furniture pieces in... and I honestly think those are supposed to be an acceptable prize, but it doesn't quite work that way. If they were added as a third, parallel, prize you got with everything else, it'd probably go over a lot better.

I just want to see better loot...like you say as it was before. This sort of thing is really off-putting to me. Better loot tables that rewards people's time and effort, OR better yet, a token-system to purchase the things we want from an event NPC.

Sheezabeast

Yes

For once I'm gonna be a little whiney and be bummed out because I have gotten so many crappy rewards, not a single costume or anything better than an undaunted key.

Free stuff is free stuff but sometimes you get crappy rng and it sucks. Its ok to admit you feel bummed out by rng.

ToRelax

No

If you don't like doing random dungeons... how about not doing random dungeons... especially if you think the rewards aren't that great. x)

LadyAstrum

Yes

ToRelax wrote: »

If you don't like doing random dungeons... how about not doing random dungeons... especially if you think the rewards aren't that great. x)

This is not a sensible solution. Part of retaining players is making the game worth playing, and events are a big part of that. But yeah, in future I'll take your advice and not waste my time if this is how ZoS rolls.

Raideen

Yes

LadyAstrum wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

If you don't like doing random dungeons... how about not doing random dungeons... especially if you think the rewards aren't that great. x)

This is not a sensible solution. Part of retaining players is making the game worth playing, and events are a big part of that. But yeah, in future I'll take your advice and not waste my time if this is how ZoS rolls.

Same here. Count me in.

ToRelax

No

LadyAstrum wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

If you don't like doing random dungeons... how about not doing random dungeons... especially if you think the rewards aren't that great. x)

This is not a sensible solution. Part of retaining players is making the game worth playing, and events are a big part of that. But yeah, in future I'll take your advice and not waste my time if this is how ZoS rolls.

Well, the point is you're not actually doing something fun to begin with ("if you don't like doing random dungeons"). I can understand someone who likes doing them anyway to be a bit disappointed if they hoped for more goodies during the event. But when I do stuff I don't actually like doing it's because I really want the rewards, which doesn't seem to be the case for many people here.