Disappointed with mystery box event?

Mojmir

Yes

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Free stuff for doing something i would anyways I’m very happy. I’m no ZoS fan but how the hell can you be unhappy with free stuff. You do know they don’t have to do any of this right?

Your right, they could just pump out broken content and ignore the outcome, oh wait.

zyk

No

If anything, the reward is too good for the task. But here's the real problem:

These events show how we've, collectively, become a community of loot junkies who will do anything, no matter how mundane, for a random chance at phat loot.

After seeing so many rare Clockwork recipes selling, I got sucked into the madness. It was terrible. No one seemed to enjoy any of the groups I was in.

Every group had a mix of old and new players. The old players did not want to be doing the dungeon for the 10,000th time so raced through ASAP without saying a word usually. The new players didn't even have a chance to follow the quest, enjoy the environments or have a chance to learn anything.

Is this why we play games? To become scratch card addicts? I thought the main enjoyment was supposed to come from the gameplay and exploration.

The modern MMO or "Online RPG" or whatever you want to call it is in very very very rough shape. All parties, myself included, need to look in the mirror because events like this expose us.

Insandros

How can one whine or cry about what he gets as FREE?

ThePrinceOfBargains

Yes

Insandros wrote: »

How can one whine or cry about what he gets as FREE?

I’d rather get nothing than get trash. All this event is is a cheap way to get the “unlucky” players to pay for their overpriced character slots.

code65536

No

On day 2, I opened 21 boxes across all my accounts on both servers. All trash. The one collectible that I got was a duplicate of one that I got on day 1.

On day 3, out of 23 boxes, and I got 6 collectibles. My main account on my home server now has 5 of the 6 collectibles of this event (just missing the dog now).

RNG taketh and RNG giveth.

DocFrost72

No

Disclaimer: I have 13 toons to run every day.

I got the only thing I desperately wanted day two, the dark shaman costume. If I can get the imperial horse and treasure hunter before it ends, that means I got at least a 6500 crown value for free.

As it stands, I got a 2000 crown costume and a butt load of clockwork furnishing plans to sell for gold.

victoriana-blue

Yes

Alchemical wrote: »

I feel like the event was grossly marketed in the wrong way. The promotional posts made it sound like this was a celebration for all the players, and so, all the players would get some neat things that are otherwise no longer for sale and not currently making Zenimax money, because it would buy a lot of good will to give away cool things people want. Instead it's a whole lot of junk that clutters up inventory space, two extremely lame reskins, and two cool costumes (two ok ones) and an infinitesimally small chance of winning big.

Exactly this. If it'd been advertised as "Hey we're doing a stress test, help us out and get a chance at shinies" then I wouldn't be so disappointed. I decon'd most of my Rewards for the Worthy from the double AP event, but at least I knew what I was getting into with that.

With the anniversary boxes in April there was a good "middle ground" of rewards: alchemy ingredients and ebony were fine as base rewards, but there were lots of motifs and plans in the drop table too. I was excited to open those boxes! Even if I got a celestial motif I'd already learned, I could donate it to a guild bank and look forward to a rarer motif next time. (And so on.)

These boxes, on the other hand, have too much junk at the bottom end. I'm happy for my guild mates who've gotten costumes or CWC plans (okay, I'm jealous too) but I've gotten mostly crown consumables, treasure maps, and mimic stones. The consumables don't stack with the ones I've got left over from Black Fredas 2016, I give away most of my maps anyway, and I still have mimic stones from buying Grim Harlequin two Halloweens ago. So far it isn't worth the aggravation of fake tanks and impatient people.

It really doesn't help that crown crates led to me disliking the consumables. Just from the free crates! Opening a crate and getting meals or potions was already "Ugh, again?" So opening a box isn't "Oh, a consumable" it's "Ughhhh, insult to injury and I can't even turn it into something useful."

starkerealm

Yes

Alchemical wrote: »

I feel like the event was grossly marketed in the wrong way. The promotional posts made it sound like this was a celebration for all the players, and so, all the players would get some neat things that are otherwise no longer for sale and not currently making Zenimax money, because it would buy a lot of good will to give away cool things people want. Instead it's a whole lot of junk that clutters up inventory space, two extremely lame reskins, and two cool costumes (two ok ones) and an infinitesimally small chance of winning big. So small no one so far seems to have won the big 'pack' of mounts/houses. I won't be surprised if no one gets one, in all honesty.

The event is horse ***. I'm sorry, but it is. "Hurr durr its free don't complain" shut up. Being free doesn't make it in any way, shape, or form a 'good' event. The deliberately misleading marketing, the garbage drop rates, the glitchy dungeon finder. It's all a big dumpster fire. This was suppose to be a celebration for the loyal players and all it does is mislead and *** on them.

It's not free. There's a fairly significant time investment, if you want to roll the dice more than once a day. Given how terrible the odds seem to be, yeah, no, this is not free.

BladedMischief

Yes

Running 6 characters a day and getting nothing but crown mimic stones, undaunted plunders, maps, surveys and the odd dye.
So disappointed; honestly. This could've been done a little better with how often the costumes and mounts drop.

starkerealm

Yes

victoriana-blue wrote: »

Alchemical wrote: »

I feel like the event was grossly marketed in the wrong way. The promotional posts made it sound like this was a celebration for all the players, and so, all the players would get some neat things that are otherwise no longer for sale and not currently making Zenimax money, because it would buy a lot of good will to give away cool things people want. Instead it's a whole lot of junk that clutters up inventory space, two extremely lame reskins, and two cool costumes (two ok ones) and an infinitesimally small chance of winning big.

Exactly this. If it'd been advertised as "Hey we're doing a stress test, help us out and get a chance at shinies" then I wouldn't be so disappointed. I decon'd most of my Rewards for the Worthy from the double AP event, but at least I knew what I was getting into with that.

With the anniversary boxes in April there was a good "middle ground" of rewards: alchemy ingredients and ebony were fine as base rewards, but there were lots of motifs and plans in the drop table too. I was excited to open those boxes! Even if I got a celestial motif I'd already learned, I could donate it to a guild bank and look forward to a rarer motif next time. (And so on.)

These boxes, on the other hand, have too much junk at the bottom end. I'm happy for my guild mates who've gotten costumes or CWC plans (okay, I'm jealous too) but I've gotten mostly crown consumables, treasure maps, and mimic stones. The consumables don't stack with the ones I've got left over from Black Fredas 2016, I give away most of my maps anyway, and I still have mimic stones from buying Grim Harlequin two Halloweens ago. So far it isn't worth the aggravation of fake tanks and impatient people.

It really doesn't help that crown crates led to me disliking the consumables. Just from the free crates! Opening a crate and getting meals or potions was already "Ugh, again?" So opening a box isn't "Oh, a consumable" it's "Ughhhh, insult to injury and I can't even turn it into something useful."

Ironically, I'd probably be happier if we could convert our unwanted consumables into gems, like in the crates. At least then you can get something enjoyable from them.

That probably would have made for a far more satisfying event, too, for that matter. Pay us a smattering of gems for each box, with a chance at the prizes, then add those prizes to the gem store for the duration of the event.

Zhaedri

Yes

Too much time to get boxes with such wonderful rewards as....


a single lockpick!
a treasure map!
groups that do not say hello and with people lying about their roles to skip the queue!

WrathOfInnos

Stop complaining about events, it's free stuff. I'm surprised ZoS even bothers coming up with events with the amount of negative feedback every time.

Sure, it's not a perfect event. Not everyone gets exactly what they wanted after a few randoms, but who really expected that? Lower your expectations. Compare this event to no event. Seems better now, right?

boombazookajd

No

Nope. What did you expect to be in the boxes? They weren't going to be giving away good stuff. Some neat costumes, different mounts, and a bunch of consumables.

Paparoski

Yes

Filled with bugs, very often the group tool does not work, sometimes it does but the reward crate is not appearing as an option... It's a mess and the rewards are worthless...

Strider__Roshin

No

I get 1k gold each time so it's not a complete waste thankfully :-)

Kuramas9tails

Yes

I have worse RNG than my boyfriend because he got CWC designs and the Imperial Warhorse which looks great with his emperor costume may I add. Im not so lucky. He was excited about the house but I think he’s lost enthusiasm for that.

Alchemical

Yes

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Stop complaining about events, it's free stuff. I'm surprised ZoS even bothers coming up with events with the amount of negative feedback every time.

Sure, it's not a perfect event. Not everyone gets exactly what they wanted after a few randoms, but who really expected that? Lower your expectations. Compare this event to no event. Seems better now, right?

No, I'm not comparing it to any event at all. It's still terrible. It still a buggy mess that lied to our faces.

I'm not mad because I didn't get what I wanted from the event. I'm mad at the way it was grossly misrepresented in the first place. The boxes are full of garbage, and if one person gets the big pack that still means in this 10 million player celebration that 9,999,999 of us get a big middle finger.

starkerealm

Yes

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Stop complaining about events, it's free stuff. I'm surprised ZoS even bothers coming up with events with the amount of negative feedback every time.

Sure, it's not a perfect event. Not everyone gets exactly what they wanted after a few randoms, but who really expected that? Lower your expectations. Compare this event to no event. Seems better now, right?

That's kinda the problem, though. This isn't really a "free" event. We're not spending money, true. But there's a significant opportunity cost. Running dungeons can be very time consuming. Hell, I've been seeing guildies who spent six hours trying to work through their alts on this.

The problem isn't about not getting the *** prize we were looking for, it's that the incentive for participation feels woefully underwhelming.

Ironically, I think the event itself is fantastic. It's a great idea. Something ZOS should probably do more often. But, the way the rewards are handled, from tying the boxes to the random dungeon system, to the abysmal drop rates, saps the spirit of the event.

I seriously suspect if you let people pick their dungeons instead of pointing them towards the group finder, and adjusted it to be a quest based reward in each capital, you'd actually see a much more community focused event.

Yes, not getting anything neat from the boxes is a reason to have a negative reaction. But, the decisions that pushed us into a system that tends to break unpredictably, is where a lot of the real aggravation comes from.

Unfadingsilence

No

Nope been running all 8 dps toons everyday just to see if I can get some nice free stuff

jssriot

Yes

For as much time I've put into doing dungeons so far, i would have liked more that I would actually use. I got the dog, which is weird looking--I mean, he's GLARINGLY white and the gold plate SUPER SHINY compared to anything on your mounts or other pets. And I got the treasure hunter costume--with the ugly, dumb backpack that clips through your weapons. I really want either the chef or blacksmith, and after runnign 9 toons over 3 days and getting dye stamps and crown junk, I'm feeling a bit disappointed, yeah. Free stuff is nice if it's free stuff i can use, but I'm cp690 with a master crafter, and many unlocked dyes. I don't need crown xp scrolls, crown tri-pots, crown repair kits, crown food or dye stamps. But I've got quite of bit of each now.

Mauin

Yes

I am disappointed by this. When I read about it first on that 10 Million Stories post (at the time the giveaway was first announced), I thought we'd be getting a much larger variety of items. Instead, we've got a horse, a dog, four old costumes, and... Junk. Mimic stones, dye stamps, and lock picks. There are some good things in there, since I've heard of people getting Aetherial Dust or a Cipher, but the drop rate is extremely low.

For the first two days of this event, I spent most of those days doing random normals on all of my characters. 14 on my main account and 4 more on my second. The best things I've managed to get on my main account are the Clockwork City furnishing plans. Otherwise, it just seems to be 90% mimic stones, dye stamps, and treasure maps or Undaunted Plunder.

I was honestly tired of this after the first day. Bad RNG, bad PUGs, and the ever broken Dungeon Finder. One does not simply do a random, even with a full group, without spamming the F key to get past the self-declining ready check.

At this point, I'm just going to limit myself to my tanks and my healer in order to get through this as fast as possible. I'll fill in with one of my DPS characters if a friend asks, but that's probably it. I'm pretty much done.

monktoasty

Yes

bitels wrote: »

Just an advice- maybe wait till end of event before you decide if you are disappointed

For some reason I thought it was only 3 days..but still...I'm done try8ngbis the point.

LindsC

Yes

I haven't gotten a single costume, mount, or pet despite running 10+ toons a day in dungeons

Cpt_Teemo

Yes

starkerealm wrote: »

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Stop complaining about events, it's free stuff. I'm surprised ZoS even bothers coming up with events with the amount of negative feedback every time.

Sure, it's not a perfect event. Not everyone gets exactly what they wanted after a few randoms, but who really expected that? Lower your expectations. Compare this event to no event. Seems better now, right?

That's kinda the problem, though. This isn't really a "free" event. We're not spending money, true. But there's a significant opportunity cost. Running dungeons can be very time consuming. Hell, I've been seeing guildies who spent six hours trying to work through their alts on this.

The problem isn't about not getting the *** prize we were looking for, it's that the incentive for participation feels woefully underwhelming.

Ironically, I think the event itself is fantastic. It's a great idea. Something ZOS should probably do more often. But, the way the rewards are handled, from tying the boxes to the random dungeon system, to the abysmal drop rates, saps the spirit of the event.

I seriously suspect if you let people pick their dungeons instead of pointing them towards the group finder, and adjusted it to be a quest based reward in each capital, you'd actually see a much more community focused event.

Yes, not getting anything neat from the boxes is a reason to have a negative reaction. But, the decisions that pushed us into a system that tends to break unpredictably, is where a lot of the real aggravation comes from.

Exactly, the more your committed the less you get it seems which wasn't the way it was supposed to be imo

Balamoor

No

Nope I didn't participate because dungeon finder is the very worst of the community and I only group with guildies

Mettaricana

Yes

Ive gotten worse drops than the lame crates 22 boxes 1 transmutation crystal per box 1 undaunted key and 6 mimic stones if i knew the drops would be this crappy od have passed on this event

Loc2262

Yes

To all the people saying "you get free stuff, how can you whine": Yes, we get free stuff, still the event does not at all feel as advertised, especially as an "appreciation of 10 million players", so it is very understandable to be disappointed.

I personally am disappointed 1. that random vet doesn't give better drops than random normal (again, a wasted chance to make random vet attractive and useful again, even if just for a few days), 2. about all the technical issues that they must have had foreseen (surprised that the broken GF can't handle the stress? seriously?), 3. the terribly watered-down loot tables (lockpicks? really?), 4. the terribly bad drop rates for useful loot (25 of 30 runs consisted of potions and undaunted keys).

If that's how you celebrate 10 million players, I'm gonna spare myself the rest of this "event".

Cpt_Teemo

Yes

Loc2262 wrote: »

To all the people saying "you get free stuff, how can you whine": Yes, we get free stuff, still the event does not at all feel as advertised, especially as an "appreciation of 10 million players", so it is very understandable to be disappointed.

I personally am disappointed 1. that random vet doesn't give better drops than random normal (again, a wasted chance to make random vet attractive and useful again, even if just for a few days), 2. about all the technical issues that they must have had foreseen (surprised that the broken GF can't handle the stress? seriously?), 3. the terribly watered-down loot tables (lockpicks? really?), 4. the terribly bad drop rates for useful loot (25 of 30 runs consisted of potions and undaunted keys).

If that's how you celebrate 10 million players, I'm gonna spare myself the rest of this "event".

Took me 45 boxes to get a purple plan that's how "Rng" this is, yesterday I had 10/14 be the 1k treasure item that isn't really rng tbh.

StrawberryKitsune

Yes

Loc2262 wrote: »

To all the people saying "you get free stuff, how can you whine": Yes, we get free stuff, still the event does not at all feel as advertised, especially as an "appreciation of 10 million players", so it is very understandable to be disappointed.

I personally am disappointed 1. that random vet doesn't give better drops than random normal (again, a wasted chance to make random vet attractive and useful again, even if just for a few days), 2. about all the technical issues that they must have had foreseen (surprised that the broken GF can't handle the stress? seriously?), 3. the terribly watered-down loot tables (lockpicks? really?), 4. the terribly bad drop rates for useful loot (25 of 30 runs consisted of potions and undaunted keys).

If that's how you celebrate 10 million players, I'm gonna spare myself the rest of this "event".

Literally couldn't have said it better myself to be honest. This isn't celebrating their customer base, this is mocking and insulting them.

Gargath

No

Recently:
Crown Experience Scroll + Crown Mimic Stone
but also
Crown Repair Kit + Stros M'Kai Treasure Map II

The most important is I get free crown items for doing activities I'd do either way.