Why can't women wear beards? This is sexist crap.

Bhaal5

#LADYBEARD

TheShadowScout

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

Why can't women wear beards?

...because ZOS is discriminating against circus folk?


Or just does not like dwarves enroaching on dwemer territory?




On a more serious point...
...I say, the beards should be allowed. Circus folk (and dwarf girls from other fantasy worlds) aside, there is traditional precedent for woman slapping on false beards as a disguise, yes? i totally would love to see that being possible in ESO as well, purely for roleplay possibilities!

BladedMischief

I don't quite understand how it's sexist, but in a way. I see what you're saying in regards to female characters and beards.
There shouldn't be a restriction here for what we can and can't use for the female characters. Especially when it's just hair in this situation.
But the whole sexist thing is ground that I'd rather not tread on. It can go far too into things and will inevitably cause more trouble than it's worth when it brings around the whole "why can't my male character have *this item* when female characters can.
-just my opinion

Tarum

Sorry in advance for my uncorrect English.
It's creepy when people think that "because this is a fantasy world" everything should be magically allowed.
This game is already too much non-lore friendly because of pupmkin costumes and tons of other stuff that you obviously will never see in a single player TES (vanilla).

I already wear a heavy set of Hlaalu armour that looks almost identical to a Redoran set from any other TES game. And the Telvanni helmet have the shape of the Redoran Watchman Helmet. This is already too much.

Now we can't have peple Flying on brooms, arse shoulderpads, sunglasses, LOTR Dwarves and beards on female just because this is fantasy and Sheogorath exist in the lore.

Restrictions are needed, same reason bacause I can't use Argonian cosmetics on a Nord.
And male doesn't grow female dresses, they wear it. As female can wear male stuff.
Growing beard is another fact, like if I would grow feminine shapes on my male character....

My 2 Septims.

Taylor_MB

Ladies having beards in a video game won't emasculate your beardless selves, boys. However, getting triggered over this does that just fine.

This thread really brought out the worst of the ESO community.

RE Lore: I could use this on my beardless toons to instantly have luscious facial hair despite being perfectly clean shaven for years (without the shaving part). Makes perfect sense females could magic up some hair also. 100% with you @curlyqloub14_ESO

Chilly-McFreeze

This forum never ceases to amaze me. Racism towards argonians, being insulted for not having meat-free max health food, unability to grow beards on female chars... this is worth my while.

ADarklore

My question is, WHY can't men have access to the female jewelry? Right now there is very little men can wear as jewelry.

Kel

ESO is one of the most LGBT friendly games I've ever seen, without making it a huge deal. They show same sex relationships like it's just a part of everyday life, as it is and should be. You will hardly see acceptance like that in any other game out there, ESPECIALLY in a MMO.
Then there's [snip] like this.....
THIS is why people hate forums.
You've litterly hit the bottom of the barrel of things to complain about.

FFS......

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ToRelax

Ruckly wrote: »

IMO ESO or any mmo isn't really the forum to protest cultural norms that have been around since there has been culture and that which is deemed normal associated with culture. If you want to create a contrary counter-culture build a new way church of bearded women. I'll stop here because the result of that if it ever took hold would be unspeakable in this present culture and its norms.

Cultural norms change all the time.

TheNuminous1

there was just a thread about men and female accesories and makeup. alot of transgender mtf play there toons as males and adapt them to look and present and be female. it allows them kinship to that toon. why would the same not be allowed for ftm? maybe that toon started as a women. and now he wants his appearance to emulate the gender he knows he is. and cant afford the surgery(crown store appearance change) having a beard will let him feel more like himself.

Princess_Ciri

IA beards for female characters needs to be a thing!!!!!!

Kr3do

Princess_Ciri wrote: »

IA beards for female characters needs to be a thing!!!!!!

Youre dead to me

Witar

Beards are for dwemer women only

Epona222

Bevik wrote: »

[Snip].

There's a character in a quest who looks masculine, has a beard, and is referred to in game by their friends as "she", and at the end of the quest rejoices about finding some dresses to wear.

It's been done in this game, by the devs, in quests.

The world has moved on, or is trying to, and you haven't. Live with it.

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Bevik

Epona222 wrote: »

Bevik wrote: »

[Snip].

There's a character in a quest who looks masculine, has a beard, and is referred to in game by their friends as "she", and at the end of the quest rejoices about finding some dresses to wear.

It's been done in this game, by the devs, in quests.

The world has moved on, or is trying to, and you haven't. Live with it.

I can't remember that quest but it's ok if it happens occasionally but not in every corner of the game.

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Insandros

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

Dear ZoS, this is utter bullsh*t. None of the "girly" hairstyles, makeup, or dresses are restricted to only female characters. Anyone who wants to equip that stuff on their male character is free to do so, and yet the beard ....



This isn't the first item like this. There are posts dating back years full of people complaining about restrictions to items like this. ZoS representatives have promised changes in the future on more than on occasion, and yet, no change. Why am I not surprised?

The items limited to a certain race are bad enough, but to restrict one gender and not the other is flat out sexist.

If i have to look a big orc-man in a wedding dress, I want to be able to put a damn beard on my female elf. Make it so!

so people stop looking stipid like having a fat male orc wearing a pink mini skirt

ssorgatem

It goes against lore.

A bearded non-khajit female would be like Breton with feathers and horns instead of facial hair.

Zorvan

ssorgatem wrote: »

It goes against lore.

A bearded non-khajit female would be like Breton with feathers and horns instead of facial hair.

Show us where in the lore non-Khajit females are forbidden from having beards. We'll wait.

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos

Seriously...

Tasear

Not that I would do it,, but men do have more freedom in other direction. Also it's not like women can't have beards, so yes the lack of an option is what I am inclined to support OP in their claims.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Haquor wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

ereboz wrote: »

There's nothing sexist about a woman not having a beard

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[Snip]

Did you watch the link earlier from the devs where they said they wanted to do this, but graphical errors and alignment made it not possible.

Im just pointing it out since you seem so sure that the reason this hasn’t happened because it is a computer game and fictional women don’t have hairy faces. No it didn’t happen because they devs couldn’t be bothered to fix it, for what would be probably a fairly small amount of players. But keep the anger alive I guess.

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czar

lmao so many people getting worked up about lady beards in a video game
I don't think a lot of people would actually put beards on their female characters if it was possible, but I'm all for player freedom. I honestly couldn't care less about what other people choose to do with their toons.

Also, inb4lock.

SantieClaws

Kirameku wrote: »

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You have personally asked all the women in the world this yes?

Clearly there are some here who would like that option. Tamriel it is not like other lands this one she has heard tales told of no. We live in a world of falling sky anchors, talking crows, angry trees, grumpy elves, clockwork robots, purple old men and lightning magic.

Does a humble beard sound so very far fetched? This one she thinks not. A simple potion of beard growth could explain it. If a traveller wishes to look a certain way then why not? It should be the choice of the traveller to make yes.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

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BigBadVolk

ye even though in skyrim there were bearded female draugrs

Flaminir

I thought I would contribute to this extremely important debate.... so I googled stuff... here is my contribution & also an indication of how seriously I think we need female beards in Tamriel!

Flaminir

I also think if we are to have female beards then we should campaign for a /Duckface emote to go with it! Such a good look!

Storymaster

Serjustin19

OK, I actually agree with OP here. Totally not fair of what's been happening though. But there are actually real Women with beards. I think it's really awesome, not to mention me in high school whom I had couple of former female friends, growing moustaches. (In which I believe it couldn't be helped and most likely in there gene pool. But I accept on who they are, and they are awesome to)

So I agree with OP, we don't have to be male to grow a weird. It can happen to real Women as well, not to mention 2 of my former highschool friends. So yes, why can't there be an option for other female "npc's" in the game? It’s a real thing in real life. Women with beards and we all should accept and love for who they are. It can't be helped, since I honestly think it mostly gene pool. But Yea, why is there not an option in game?

Link of 10 real life women with beard. (just some examples)

http://aplus.com/a/bearded-ladies-rocked?no_monetization=true

Flaminir

Perhaps as a compromise they could offer a sexchange in the crown store if they don't already? Then a beard could be included as part of the deal?

Just a thought...

kojou

What if I want to RP a female disguising as male to avoid people that are looking for her?