Why can't women wear beards? This is sexist crap.

dpencil1

Blanco wrote: »

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

Why can't my male character have boobs? This is sexist.

I also want a toon with boobs on his head or else I feel that is being discriminatory against someone/something...

Careful on that slippery slope...





...by which, of course, I mean your forehead boob.

Left4Daud

Trollish answers aside, the devs have actually officially commented on this in an episode of ESO live when first introducing the Style Parlor.

In their initial testing they didn't have any race or gender restrictions on appearance collectibles. However this led to some problems with collectibles negatively morphing races or genders they were not originally designed for. For example, the Long Patriarch Beard would appear off center and weird on female head models. Khajiit facial markings would warp non-Khajiit faces to try to fix the marking etc...

Because of these unintended consequences, they decided to enforce some race and gender restrictions for certain appearance collectibles.

If you want to listen to the official Dev response you can check out this episode of ESO live, the beards for females part appears at the 01:11:08 mark.

theslynx

Left4Daud wrote: »

...In their initial testing they didn't have any race or gender restrictions on appearance collectibles. However this led to some problems with collectibles negatively morphing races or genders they were not originally designed for...

Makes sense. If it's a technical limitation, it comes into the purview of the developers' attempt to triage feature creation, and I can't argue with the decision to prioritise other features.

As to OP, I find the idea odd, but I don't see any lore problem with it or have any philosophical rejection of it; people who don't like it could just interpret female beards as people wearing odd costumes/prosthetics. That's certainly no worse than some of the clothes I see people wear in real life.

MythicEmperor

They shouldn't even allow male characters to wear female cosmetics.

Altaire

Dwarven/Dwemer race is dead, not saying a old death mask in a lost tomb can't exist in ESO. Best thing we have are khajiit females have wiskers and a lot of body hair.
And Argonian maids have scales, I imagine ya would walk funny for a week after THAT date.
jk

OutLaw_Nynx

Also beards are gross.

Sorry guys.

Tan9oSuccka

Femmestache for the win!

I secretly want the new beard for my female character. Why?

Reasons. It’s fun, it’s a game.

wyterice24b14_ESO

Awesome, then we can have bearded Bretons, fat orcs in Grahtwood climber outfits doing the Redgaurd male dance, while the Nord is in his Song of the night ensemble with the /drunk emote running around with his beer gut always 1 step ahead of him...

ArchMikem

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

The items limited to a certain race are bad enough, but to restrict one gender and not the other is flat out sexist.

If i have to look a big orc-man in a wedding dress, I want to be able to put a damn beard on my female elf. Make it so!

Is this sarcasm? Please for the love of God tell me this is sarcasm.

Drummerx04

This thread prompted me to google Women with beards and I was not disappointed.

Mephisto939

Dang it. This totally ruins the Conchita Wurst meta build.

Altaire

Drummerx04 wrote: »

This thread prompted me to google Women with beards and I was not disappointed.

LOL, explain why.
All that stubble... heh

wyterice24b14_ESO

Drummerx04 wrote: »

This thread prompted me to google Women with beards and I was not disappointed.

I hate you so much RN...

Altaire

wyterice24b14_ESO wrote: »

Awesome, then we can have bearded Bretons, fat orcs in Grahtwood climber outfits doing the Redgaurd male dance, while the Nord is in his Song of the night ensemble with the /drunk emote running around with his beer gut always 1 step ahead of him...

Isn't that a definition of spring break?

wyterice24b14_ESO

Altaire wrote: »

wyterice24b14_ESO wrote: »

Awesome, then we can have bearded Bretons, fat orcs in Grahtwood climber outfits doing the Redgaurd male dance, while the Nord is in his Song of the night ensemble with the /drunk emote running around with his beer gut always 1 step ahead of him...

Isn't that a definition of spring break?

more like the Rwalka's Weekend rock party

Altaire

Rug burn?

Haquor

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

Dear ZoS, this is utter bullsh*t. None of the "girly" hairstyles, makeup, or dresses are restricted to only female characters. Anyone who wants to equip that stuff on their male character is free to do so, and yet the beard ....



This isn't the first item like this. There are posts dating back years full of people complaining about restrictions to items like this. ZoS representatives have promised changes in the future on more than on occasion, and yet, no change. Why am I not surprised?

The items limited to a certain race are bad enough, but to restrict one gender and not the other is flat out sexist.

If i have to look a big orc-man in a wedding dress, I want to be able to put a damn beard on my female elf. Make it so!

I feel possible trolling. If not....

Anyone can put on whatever clothes they want. Unfortunately, if female bosmer dna dictates she cannot naturally grow a beard then thats how it is. You dont get to change that to suit yourself.
I cant put a massive round set of cans on my male dunmer... cause you know... they dont have cans.

Arobain

No, just no, seriously where do you people come from

THWIP71

Ch4mpTW

LordGavus wrote: »

ereboz wrote: »

There's nothing sexist about a woman not having a beard

Agreed.
Sexist would be more like females not being able to wear heavy armour, or only getting to choose bikini armour.

This just a restriction that suits the vast majority of the population.

I for 1 miss the skimpy bikini armors found in eastern MMO’s. My MagPlar and Wardens would look so beautiful, if I could match swimsuits to them.

SHADOW2KK

Well......this thread is uhhh....different.....

Ruckly

IMO ESO or any mmo isn't really the forum to protest cultural norms that have been around since there has been culture and that which is deemed normal associated with culture. If you want to create a contrary counter-culture build a new way church of bearded women. I'll stop here because the result of that if it ever took hold would be unspeakable in this present culture and its norms.

Zorvan

TheMaster wrote: »

Is this a joke? Literally any man can put on makeup or female clothes. I don’t think any women can grow beards like that. If they can, they’re an anomaly.

Not necessarily saying it shouldn’t be done for *** and giggles, especially with all the drag queen Orcs running around. But don’t act like there’s no logic behind the decision to restrict it.

Ignorant or trolling? We'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bearded+women&tbm=isch&source=iu&pf=m&ictx=1&fir=caWrfhoE4ygi9M%3A%2CilhN6OvRcpdf9M%2C_&usg=__xgvebope0SdQp04h8LLQbHCBZTw=&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjH7diu_cTXAhUI7oMKHUbRB14Q_h0IvAEwHA#imgrc=caWrfhoE4ygi9M:

Pele

Calm down. It's not sexist. There are probably technical reasons for this. Maybe something with the models.

Did you even research to see if there was a technical reason, or did you run straight to the forums thinking you'd get your way and scare ZOS if you screamed loudly and waved damning allegations?

lardvader

I want hairy legs as well!!!!111

wyterice24b14_ESO

We will just get the purple mattress protector & no amount or hair or long fingernails will matter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNT2mBjLoTk

SFDB

Your character has a beard, you just don't notice because she's wearing that skirt.

Chufu

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

Dear ZoS, this is utter bullsh*t. None of the "girly" hairstyles, makeup, or dresses are restricted to only female characters. Anyone who wants to equip that stuff on their male character is free to do so, and yet the beard ....



This isn't the first item like this. There are posts dating back years full of people complaining about restrictions to items like this. ZoS representatives have promised changes in the future on more than on occasion, and yet, no change. Why am I not surprised?

The items limited to a certain race are bad enough, but to restrict one gender and not the other is flat out sexist.

If i have to look a big orc-man in a wedding dress, I want to be able to put a damn beard on my female elf. Make it so!

Well it's just natural that a beard is not growing in a Woman face. So it's not a sexist thing, it's just a Biological thing.

Nur you can still put Dresses on male characters, so I don't See your problem.

SantieClaws

Once upon a time in a dream Khajiit she was one of the most beautiful women in Middle Earth.

So on behalf of Rosiebelle Rabbitbane this one she says yes to beards.

Also to the beard ribbons.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws


Rosiebelle 2

Ruckly

I believe a compromise can be reached that is equitable. Give women beards. Give men wigwams and marijuana. Nature will take care of the rest.