Shor PC/NA "Official" Discussion

Rickter

I think thats the Shogunate group. They certainly run the largest AD group on Shor. I notice that both EP and DC are very protective of their home keeps, and every faction knows that, but AD seems to not ever care.

Adenoma

It's not Shogunate. That's two smaller guilds that showed up at the same place.

Vapirko

50% of all attacks I get hit with these days is lethal arrow loaded with defile and cc poisons. It’s so bad.

technohic

Vapirko wrote: »

50% of all attacks I get hit with these days is lethal arrow loaded with defile and cc poisons. It’s so bad.

Its a NB paradise. Not just because they can do that best; but that’s also a great target to look for when someone’s doing it from the back. The good NBs are usually in your face. Those and sorcs but there still are some good sorcs that usually have the CC attached to them. Not sure how if that will stay with how it is on PTS.

Durham

Vapirko wrote: »

50% of all attacks I get hit with these days is lethal arrow loaded with defile and cc poisons. It’s so bad.

Extreamily true and the lack of balance currently is apalling .. They really missed the boat with this new patch... People were hoping that another balance patch was in the works... After the next patch we are going to see some extreme balance issues...

BaylorCorvette

Vapirko wrote: »

50% of all attacks I get hit with these days is lethal arrow loaded with defile and cc poisons. It’s so bad.

Yup, it is really brutal. Especially if you don't have a Templar with you that can drop a cleanse. This week has been a very frustrating week, I've been running solo or with a MagDK in duo's and we've found some really good fights but several times this week while we're in fights we've been jumped by 1-3 nightblades hitting us with Snipe + Poison Arrow. I'm not a huge fan of resource tower fights and playing Ring Around the Rosie but it's almost needed at this point when you have numerous NB's lurking. Open field combat is almost a death sentence if you're not a Templar or NB your self.

Valen_Byte

purge

Rickter

Kill Enemy Nightblades = Kill Enemy Players

Especially since all of AD are nbs..

Vapirko

BaylorCorvette wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

50% of all attacks I get hit with these days is lethal arrow loaded with defile and cc poisons. It’s so bad.

Yup, it is really brutal. Especially if you don't have a Templar with you that can drop a cleanse. This week has been a very frustrating week, I've been running solo or with a MagDK in duo's and we've found some really good fights but several times this week while we're in fights we've been jumped by 1-3 nightblades hitting us with Snipe + Poison Arrow. I'm not a huge fan of resource tower fights and playing Ring Around the Rosie but it's almost needed at this point when you have numerous NB's lurking. Open field combat is almost a death sentence if you're not a Templar or NB your self.

I’m not saying Ive ever been a good solo player, perhaps only more recently I’ve had some successful 1vXs, but it’s such a chore even so with all the powerful status effects groups can put on you with one skill. Solo play feels like a pipe dream more or less. Lately my brother and I just run duo, he plays a magicka Templar now. Otherwise you might as well just call it a day without the purge as you say. Having a full damage build like a stam warden along with a magicka Templar heal/support makes all the difference against those snipe spam groups and the level of fun I have is just so much higher. Together we can handle 6-8 person groups with relative ease or a good challenge as long as they’re not seasoned players. And imo that’s where the fun is at. I love my medium armor stam sorc but outside of a 1v1 or a larger group he’s just not that useful.

Adenoma

Stamsorc can actually swing efficient purge on your overload bar. I have a buddy that does it and it can be pretty clutch in solo/duo. Clears those cost increase poisons too.

Durham

I think ZOS wants Cyrodil to be for large groups battle group size. There is really no place for 6 to 10 group size meta. 12-24 rule the scene with the balance heavily in that meta's favor. I guess they gave the battle grounds for small groups ... However its not open world. I have always enjoyed the medium size group play in this game and on Shore it has been a great run ..

But lately it exists only for a few hours but not really but nothing like it did last year this time...Takuto barely plays atm because of the poor state of play of Shore being Lite version of Vevic with 1vX's constantly crying after they hit the back of your group and when you wipe them they cry!

I do miss the old days where we had groups of 3 to 4 running around and those groups would max out around 8 or so... If a zerg logged in they quickly found that they did not have many people to fight because we would all avoid them.... and they would go back to vevic.. They then got the impression that this was a dead server but it was not ... We always knew where to find blues ... We knew where to find the REds ......

technohic

I probably like a lot of people, like the huge battles. Just not fond of it when I get ran over by one. Seems to be a fine line between large battle and one side zerging the other down.

Durham

30 reds running together at Sej a few moments ago ... lol yes I would say they do

Valen_Byte

Adenoma wrote: »

Stamsorc can actually swing efficient purge on your overload bar. I have a buddy that does it and it can be pretty clutch in solo/duo. Clears those cost increase poisons too.

I always go with the morph that reduces the cost. Even on my stam toon I can hit it twice. I have never understood why people dont use it. Stay clean, stay alive.

Vapirko

Adenoma wrote: »

Stamsorc can actually swing efficient purge on your overload bar. I have a buddy that does it and it can be pretty clutch in solo/duo. Clears those cost increase poisons too.

Good idea, besides overload being buggy as hell, I will give this a shot.

technohic

The problem with running important stuff on stam sorc with the overload bar is I always found I wanted to use my ultimate to get some burst and then you dont have it available.

Adenoma

@Vapirko , obviously just do it in scenarios you don’t need that magicka for dark deal. Turn a corner, have your speed buffs up, and purge those nasty snipes and poisons.

NBrookus

Durham wrote: »

I think ZOS wants Cyrodil to be for large groups battle group size. There is really no place for 6 to 10 group size meta. 12-24 rule the scene with the balance heavily in that meta's favor. I guess they gave the battle grounds for small groups ... However its not open world. I have always enjoyed the medium size group play in this game and on Shore it has been a great run ..

But lately it exists only for a few hours but not really but nothing like it did last year this time...Takuto barely plays atm because of the poor state of play of Shore being Lite version of Vevic with 1vX's constantly crying after they hit the back of your group and when you wipe them they cry!

I do miss the old days where we had groups of 3 to 4 running around and those groups would max out around 8 or so... If a zerg logged in they quickly found that they did not have many people to fight because we would all avoid them.... and they would go back to vevic.. They then got the impression that this was a dead server but it was not ... We always knew where to find blues ... We knew where to find the REds ......

I wouldn't mind Cyro being for large groups, if the large battles were dynamic and varied. They aren't: it's the same stack/heal/purge/bait/ult drop/repeat every time. Battlegrounds are a formula. The fun of open world Shor was not knowing what you were going to get, and finding groups with different builds or strategies.

Having Gina say "no class balance this patch" after promising class balance for 6 months and it being totally out of whack in both PVE and PVP was insulting. I'll play through Summerset and enjoy the PVE; that seems to be all the devs want people to do.

technohic

Sures been quiet around here


Had a lot of 3 ways at Nickel tonight. Gigity. I hate it when you cant fire abilities at times or you swap weapon and fire ultimate but the game fires ultimate then swaps weapon. Good amount of DC and AD and a good team of EP all there though. Was pretty fun.

Vapirko

technohic wrote: »

Sures been quiet around here


Had a lot of 3 ways at Nickel tonight. Gigity. I hate it when you cant fire abilities at times or you swap weapon and fire ultimate but the game fires ultimate then swaps weapon. Good amount of DC and AD and a good team of EP all there though. Was pretty fun.

I think a lot of players are taking a break till summerset most likely. Personally I’ve been heading to BGs a lot playing a two man healer/dps combo and it’s been a lot more fun than getting pummeled by zergs open world. While you still get lethal arrow spammed in bgs the confined environment means you can smash those people as well.

Rickter

EDIT: Oh my bad, I didnt see Technohic's post above - you meant why is it quiet in this THREAD

Please excuse my annoying smugness but:

Well thats because I have been carrying this thread, just like the last one regarding shor.

I havent been taking a break from the game, but a certain individual in this thread makes it nearly impossible for me to express an opinion without it being turned into something it's not so he can fuel his own agenda so I've taken a back seat since most of you probably see me as the source of the long standing conflict.

lol, without me, this turned into a necro thread. flattering for sure.

Vapirko

Rickter wrote: »

EDIT: Oh my bad, I didnt see Technohic's post above - you meant why is it quiet in this THREAD

Please excuse my annoying smugness but:

Well thats because I have been carrying this thread, just like the last one regarding shor.

I havent been taking a break from the game, but a certain individual in this thread makes it nearly impossible for me to express an opinion without it being turned into something it's not so he can fuel his own agenda so I've taken a back seat since most of you probably see me as the source of the long standing conflict.

lol, without me, this turned into a necro thread. flattering for sure.

No worries, and I don’t have anything against large scale battles or uneven battles when it makes sense (such as if a faction fails to respond to a keep attack that’s their fault). But it’s really hard to have fun as a solo or duo team anymore at least at higher populations. I still think ZOS has just been letting the balance in this game slide. Imo you need a solid 6 person group to even have a chance of success during primetime.

Darkmage1337

Thanks again to the members of Legions of Mordor, Call To Glory, and Requiem that helped me get Emp yesterday (Friday, May 18th) at around 1 AM EST.
There were epic, close battles between all 3 factions and on all sides of the map (Roebeck, BRK, Sejanus). It really was a lot of fun, even though I only held onto Emp for about 1-2 hours after being crowned, haha!
The campaign reset at around 6 AM EST on Tuesday, May 15th, and I grinded Alliance Points 19 hours a day for 3 days straight (from 8 AM EST to 3 AM EST and mostly solo, duo, or in a group of 5-6). I stopped at 1.2mil Alliance Points, shortly after I got dethroned; and then I let my friend pass me, who also got both crowned and dethroned 24 hours after I did, lmao.

Top 3 quotes of that night:

"Congrats, you got Emp -- by 50 seconds..." - (We, DC, capped Aleswell right before AD re-capped Ash and EP re-capped BRK)
"Need 1 more at Ash for Threesome with the Empress" - (Had only myself and a friend for a Battering Ram, needed 3-6, lol)
"You've earned a new title - 'That Which Has No Life'" - (My plebby BDO-only friend who doesn't even play ESO anymore, lmao)

Anyway, Emp pushes are always fun and exhilarating. Good times! Viva La Vida.
- The Storm-Shield, Former Empress

technohic

Vapirko wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

EDIT: Oh my bad, I didnt see Technohic's post above - you meant why is it quiet in this THREAD

Please excuse my annoying smugness but:

Well thats because I have been carrying this thread, just like the last one regarding shor.

I havent been taking a break from the game, but a certain individual in this thread makes it nearly impossible for me to express an opinion without it being turned into something it's not so he can fuel his own agenda so I've taken a back seat since most of you probably see me as the source of the long standing conflict.

lol, without me, this turned into a necro thread. flattering for sure.

No worries, and I don’t have anything against large scale battles or uneven battles when it makes sense (such as if a faction fails to respond to a keep attack that’s their fault). But it’s really hard to have fun as a solo or duo team anymore at least at higher populations. I still think ZOS has just been letting the balance in this game slide. Imo you need a solid 6 person group to even have a chance of success during primetime.

I saw a few duos and trios. Usually had either a sorc or NB to escape and Rez or get a new tent up because they were near larger fights and would get zerged down. I’d do it to because at that spot we were at, those small scalers would pick off people one by one while we were trying to do other things.

I would say they probably would do better by not going to the large battles but may have had no other choice. My usual Friday guild night was smaller than usual with only around 9 casual PVPers including myself as I generally only log a couple nights a week lately; but plenty other DC were in our area as well. Even when we decided to stay at Nickel holding out a couple hours while our home and emp keeps behind us were attacked and taken. Was just having too much fun with the fights there

Rickter

Hey grats @Darkmage1337 !! Glad we had some reps from Requiem to help you out. First time emps are something youll always remember. Enjoy the costume dye and housing item. You earned it!

casparian

Vapirko wrote: »

Imo you need a solid 6 person group to even have a chance of success during primetime.

And I'm not even sure that ZOS would consider that a problem. The direction they're taking class design, their focus for Cyrodiil changes, and their continued lack of attention to game mechanics that exclusively or predominantly benefit groups who have numbers on their sides all suggest to me that their version of "lol git gud scrub" is "get in a bigger group".

casparian

Jesus guys.

joe.smith21b14_ESO

I heard there was a nb making a ruckus in glademist yesterday. Silly dc you can’t leave nb’s inside your keep after you take it back. The younglings don’t stand a chance.

Darkmage1337

casparian wrote: »

Jesus guys.

Yup, this is what we wake up to every day.
It doesn't look like my DC Former Empress is getting the AD gate skyshards anytime soon; or, ever.

EDIT: I got them both this morning, thanks to EP for opening up AD's gates, my DC just rode on through.
Now all 9/9 of my characters have all Cyrodiil skyshards.

MinarasLaure

Can any AD here explain how Shor works?
Having a week off i thought i would give this campaign a try but, despite the map being completely yellow for the majority of the time, i cant find any group, or i cant build any as when i try, nobody wants to join (or they do join, but when they see its like 3 of us they leave).
I know iv runs a group but mostly is a guild group.
So i assume the majority of the groups running in shor are guild only?