PTS Patch Notes v3.1.4

Franieck

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Uhm... where is the class specific balance changes???

Our focus for this update has always been geared (no pun intended) more toward itemization and item sets.

So... still no house motifs on the templates? seems like a good update "geared toward itemization". You guys rock!

Avran_Sylt

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Uhm... where is the class specific balance changes???

Our focus for this update has always been geared (no pun intended) more toward itemization and item sets.

Will you be looking into more of the underused crafted item sets such as Magnus' Gift, Ashen Grip, or Nobles Conquest?

SirCritical

Poor maxHP tank builds.

rhapsodious

dpencil1 wrote: »

Necropotence 5-piece nerfed by 21.25%??

What is the math that justifies this? Or is it just a reaction to forum whining?

Not happy about this change at all.

The fact that every sorc and their mother is running the set? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Takes-No-Prisoner

rhapsodious wrote: »

dpencil1 wrote: »

Necropotence 5-piece nerfed by 21.25%??

What is the math that justifies this? Or is it just a reaction to forum whining?

Not happy about this change at all.

The fact that every sorc and their mother is running the set? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

^

Nifty2g

dpencil1 wrote: »

Necropotence 5-piece nerfed by 21.25%??

What is the math that justifies this? Or is it just a reaction to forum whining?

Not happy about this change at all.

The bonuses before the 5pc got buffed, remember?

Feanor

@dpencil1

The same math that warranted a buff for 40 stam points on Hulking Draugr it seems...

DRXHarbinger

NECRO NERF, DIE SHIELD STACKING SORCS, DIIIIEEEEE!

See, all the whiners got a nerf to those lovely sorcs, well done.

But yay execute damage scaling up FTW!

Biro123

Nifty2g wrote: »

dpencil1 wrote: »

Necropotence 5-piece nerfed by 21.25%??

What is the math that justifies this? Or is it just a reaction to forum whining?

Not happy about this change at all.

The bonuses before the 5pc got buffed, remember?

^ So overall, compared to live, more mag when your pet is down - probably about the same when its up (need to check)

Durham

dpencil1 wrote: »

Necropotence 5-piece nerfed by 21.25%??

What is the math that justifies this? Or is it just a reaction to forum whining?

Not happy about this change at all.

That set was way over the top ... that would be 7300 Magicka +20% +10%

2 items) Adds 967 Max Magicka

(3 items) Adds 967 Max Magicka

(4 items) Adds 967 Max Magicka

(5 items) While you have pets active, increase Max Magicka by 4000


Lets look at the stam version

Same exact set except 2500 as the 5th bonus / But no pet requirement ... Im sure your Stam Warden wouldnt mind a pet requirement and 3100 stamina ...

Midori_Oku

With the buffs to the 2-4 piece bonuses pet sorcs will still roughly have the same amount of magicka they have currently on live. Assuming you are running Ilambris and Moondancer anyway. It's hardly a nerf. Still sucks cause I wanted to see how high I could stack my max magicka after the update. Oh well.

jbjondeaueb17_ESO

Including Sorc execute, yeah

Phlathead

Very happy with these patches, they'll definitely help with diversity. Curious why some of this stuff took so long though.

Looking forward to the balance patches. Is there an ETA on when we will start seeing these on the PTS or when the target release week/month for the Live servers will be?

And I don't suppose there will be a sale on the race change tokens with all of the patch changes?

cedheimb16_ESO2

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

They must be serious about the torugs meta. Wow..

Fixed an issue where the Infused weapon trait and the Torug’s Pact set bonus were stacking additively instead of multiplicatively.

It now seems to be around ever 1.4s if you stack Torug's + infused.
Assume it went from
4 * (1 - (0.5+0.3)) = 0.8s
To
4 * (1 - 0.5) * (1 - 0.3) = 1.4s

Vapirko

CC fix and better executed for NBs woooooooo

caperon

jbjondeaueb17_ESO wrote: »

Including Sorc execute, yeah

Sorcerer executes (active and passive) allways worked fine since those are numbers that scale from your stats, not % increases.

Takes-No-Prisoner

jbjondeaueb17_ESO wrote: »

Including Sorc execute, yeah

Yeah, that is gonna be scary. Let's also not forget the execute passive(Implosion) both Stam and Mag have access too as well.

Bladerunner1

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

• The bonus damage dealt by execute abilities, such as Assassin’s Blade or Reverse Slash, now works more intuitively with global damage done bonuses, such as Mighty or Minor/Major Berserk. Execute bonus damage is now multiplicative with global damage bonuses instead of additive.

Nice! Does this multiplicative change also apply to swords buffed by Twin Blade and Blunt / Heavy weapons and bows buffed by Hawk Eye / Long Shots?

Hamburglarjones

Did the other % specific parts of abilities get the same treatment as the executes? i.e jabs/sweeps?

Feanor

I think they should introduce queues at the Torug's Pact crafting station. We're going to need these.

Gigasax

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

General

• The bonus damage dealt by execute abilities, such as Assassin’s Blade or Reverse Slash, now works more intuitively with global damage done bonuses, such as Mighty or Minor/Major Berserk. Execute bonus damage is now multiplicative with global damage bonuses instead of additive.

So...Puncturing Sweeps now scale correctly with Minor Slayer etc? @ZOS_GinaBruno

dpencil1

Nifty2g wrote: »

dpencil1 wrote: »

Necropotence 5-piece nerfed by 21.25%??

What is the math that justifies this? Or is it just a reaction to forum whining?

Not happy about this change at all.

The bonuses before the 5pc got buffed, remember?

Those bonuses add about 100 more magicka. So instead of truly losing 850 magicka it's losing 550. That's still a significant hit to the incentive to run Necro when it requires a living pet (more important for Sorcs than Wardens), and while sets like Julianos, Mother's Sorrow, and Torgue's Pact paired with Infused have all seen significant buffs. Necro should be BiS for pet sorcs. I fear that it will not when compared to these other sets now.

caperon

Hamburglarjones wrote: »

Did the other % specific parts of abilities get the same treatment as the executes? i.e jabs/sweeps?

While i agree in the general consensus, that those bonus should be multiplicative and we can add other skills like molten armaments, set bonuses like minor and major slayer, that would mean zos would be going back to how tha game worked before and would boost overal dps a lot for mostly everyone and i dont think thats their idea.

Maybe zos should make aditive the cp system instead of everything else. That would nerf CP (and dps in general) without breaking a lot of skills and set bonuses. 1 more example of how bad the CP system has been for the game balance.

Sargentwilko51

The execute damage scaling being moved to multiplicative is a good thing and where it used to be.

My fear here is.. that only execute scaling was moved and not the full revert to the change that made all damage done bonuses additive with CP.

I think its safe to assume that its only execute scaling that got pulled out and placed as multiplicative, but it is ZOS, so, needs to be fully tested for sure.

I would assume that all other skills and % amps to them (such as sweeps) were not included, as the note says execute damage scaling...

ManDraKE

Whoever complains about the necro nerf needs to get perma ban of the forum. That set being OP is beyond any discussion.

Moloch1514

Why always nerf? Can't you buff the underperforming sets instead? Sucks to progress, only to hit an artificial wall every quarter.

olsborg

Feanor wrote: »

Fixed an issue where the Infused weapon trait and the Torug’s Pact set bonus were stacking additively instead of multiplicatively.

No further changes to oblivion damage at all? Nice. Gonna be awesome in Cyrodiil for the next six months. Not.

This, oblivion enchant meta incoming, its gonna be "fun"

olsborg

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Uhm... where is the class specific balance changes???

Our focus for this update has always been geared (no pun intended) more toward itemization and item sets.

Dear Gina, your words are like a knife in my heart, take a look at all the crafted sets that basicly....are worthless. Seriously like 60-70% of the crafted sets are completely trash for pvp(and pve endgame). No plans to remedy this? Throw crafters a bone please? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Subversus

olsborg wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Uhm... where is the class specific balance changes???

Our focus for this update has always been geared (no pun intended) more toward itemization and item sets.

Dear Gina, your words are like a knife in my heart, take a look at all the crafted sets that basicly....are worthless. Seriously like 60-70% of the crafted sets are completely trash for pvp(and pve endgame). No plans to remedy this? Throw crafters a bone please? @ZOS_GinaBruno

It's ok, crafters will have to craft both pve and pvp BiS items next patch, namely julianos and torugs... sadface

Nifty2g

olsborg wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Uhm... where is the class specific balance changes???

Our focus for this update has always been geared (no pun intended) more toward itemization and item sets.

Dear Gina, your words are like a knife in my heart, take a look at all the crafted sets that basicly....are worthless. Seriously like 60-70% of the crafted sets are completely trash for pvp(and pve endgame). No plans to remedy this? Throw crafters a bone please? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Question for you.
Why would/should a crafted set be on equal grounds as a dropped set, since you mentioned it, equal grounds as an endgame set?