KodiPvP, how does he do it?

FearlessOne_2014

Valencer wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

These threads are always entertaining because it stirs up the pot and the "known cheaters" float to the top proclaiming superiority over others.

Would it surprise anyone that the "highly respected" denier of all things exploitative can become untargetable when he chooses to? That's when you see your animation speed go super fast and nothing connects...

ZOS has an issue and all these little punks that cheat but talk like they are mma fighters only exist here to muddy the waters so you can't see clearly.

Here is a little trick you might want to try. Try using los around a tree on any of the 1vx crew that uses trees and rocks. You might note that they have no issue attacking you when you do it... so the question is how do they do it?

If anything threads like these are amusing because they highlight who's getting farmed.

Never seen anything close to questionable play in the 3 years Ive been playing this game now. I'd LOVE to see some of these cheats/hacks/macros everyone keeps raging about.

Yeah because there are no cheaters in ESO. And videos as follow...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ91nRKFe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ
http://mmoexploiters.com/elder-scrolls-online/double-mundus-stone-buffs-trick-eso/
... among others as well, are all just a figment of our imagination. Also so top streamers getting caught suspended for 3 days never happened either. Also cheat engine does not exist.

Now I'm not going to say Kodi cheats. Because that would be completely disingenuous of me. To do so without any proof.

But as time has past. Some of the ex-PvP heroes have been caught red handed cheating, and or purposely using exploits.

cameron90_ESO

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

These threads are always entertaining because it stirs up the pot and the "known cheaters" float to the top proclaiming superiority over others.

Would it surprise anyone that the "highly respected" denier of all things exploitative can become untargetable when he chooses to? That's when you see your animation speed go super fast and nothing connects...

ZOS has an issue and all these little punks that cheat but talk like they are mma fighters only exist here to muddy the waters so you can't see clearly.

Here is a little trick you might want to try. Try using los around a tree on any of the 1vx crew that uses trees and rocks. You might note that they have no issue attacking you when you do it... so the question is how do they do it?

If anything threads like these are amusing because they highlight who's getting farmed.

Never seen anything close to questionable play in the 3 years Ive been playing this game now. I'd LOVE to see some of these cheats/hacks/macros everyone keeps raging about.

Yeah because there are no cheaters in ESO. And videos as follow...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ91nRKFe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ
http://mmoexploiters.com/elder-scrolls-online/double-mundus-stone-buffs-trick-eso/
... among others as well, are all just a figment of our imagination. Also so top streamers getting caught suspended for 3 days never happened either. Also cheat engine does not exist.

Now I'm not going to say Kodi cheats. Because that would be completely disingenuous of me. To do so without any proof.

But as time has past. Some of the ex-PvP heroes have been caught red handed cheating, and or purposely using exploits.

I hope you're not seriously referencing the Fengrush macroslice clip as an example of cheating... The only program you needed installed to perform a macroslice at that point in time was ESO. That *** just happened through no fault of your own. You crit rush into an enemy and get stuck in the animation, fire off some skills that eventually unload all at once.

Sacredx

cameron90_ESO wrote: »

I hope you're not seriously referencing the Fengrush macroslice clip as an example of cheating... The only program you needed installed to perform a macroslice at that point in time was ESO. That *** just happened through no fault of your own. You crit rush into an enemy and get stuck in the animation, fire off some skills that eventually unload all at once.

I just want to make this very clear so that people understand when they choose to use statements like the above. An exploit is a part of game design what is unintended usually involving someone getting ahead using it, such as the stuck spam skill combination. At this point it is just an exploit. Once a player finds the exploit they can either choose to report it and not use it, which would be the right thing to do according to most top game Tees and Cees, or they can choose to use it to gain an advantage. Now, once they cross that line and use an exploit to gain an advantage it then becomes a breach of Tees and Cees and is considered a form of cheating. I am not 100% across the ZOS EULA but I would expect something like this to be in it. Some one can correct me if it's not there.

This is just a clarification note and not any form of a conclusion of who / if players are / were cheating. That's up to the devs to decide.

rfennell_ESO

cameron90_ESO wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

These threads are always entertaining because it stirs up the pot and the "known cheaters" float to the top proclaiming superiority over others.

Would it surprise anyone that the "highly respected" denier of all things exploitative can become untargetable when he chooses to? That's when you see your animation speed go super fast and nothing connects...

ZOS has an issue and all these little punks that cheat but talk like they are mma fighters only exist here to muddy the waters so you can't see clearly.

Here is a little trick you might want to try. Try using los around a tree on any of the 1vx crew that uses trees and rocks. You might note that they have no issue attacking you when you do it... so the question is how do they do it?

If anything threads like these are amusing because they highlight who's getting farmed.

Never seen anything close to questionable play in the 3 years Ive been playing this game now. I'd LOVE to see some of these cheats/hacks/macros everyone keeps raging about.

Yeah because there are no cheaters in ESO. And videos as follow...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ91nRKFe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ
http://mmoexploiters.com/elder-scrolls-online/double-mundus-stone-buffs-trick-eso/
... among others as well, are all just a figment of our imagination. Also so top streamers getting caught suspended for 3 days never happened either. Also cheat engine does not exist.

Now I'm not going to say Kodi cheats. Because that would be completely disingenuous of me. To do so without any proof.

But as time has past. Some of the ex-PvP heroes have been caught red handed cheating, and or purposely using exploits.

I hope you're not seriously referencing the Fengrush macroslice clip as an example of cheating... The only program you needed installed to perform a macroslice at that point in time was ESO. That *** just happened through no fault of your own. You crit rush into an enemy and get stuck in the animation, fire off some skills that eventually unload all at once.

What if someone told you that certain people seem to be able to reproduce the macro slice bug at will? Or that certain people's entire playstyle revolves about it occurring right after a charge? I'll just say that some people do use it and abuse it. You are getting hit by the charge damage from range and then they are spamming the same old same old from range and you can't dodge it or avoid it. It occurs so frequently with certain players it's not happenstance.

exeeter702

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

cameron90_ESO wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

These threads are always entertaining because it stirs up the pot and the "known cheaters" float to the top proclaiming superiority over others.

Would it surprise anyone that the "highly respected" denier of all things exploitative can become untargetable when he chooses to? That's when you see your animation speed go super fast and nothing connects...

ZOS has an issue and all these little punks that cheat but talk like they are mma fighters only exist here to muddy the waters so you can't see clearly.

Here is a little trick you might want to try. Try using los around a tree on any of the 1vx crew that uses trees and rocks. You might note that they have no issue attacking you when you do it... so the question is how do they do it?

If anything threads like these are amusing because they highlight who's getting farmed.

Never seen anything close to questionable play in the 3 years Ive been playing this game now. I'd LOVE to see some of these cheats/hacks/macros everyone keeps raging about.

Yeah because there are no cheaters in ESO. And videos as follow...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ91nRKFe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ
http://mmoexploiters.com/elder-scrolls-online/double-mundus-stone-buffs-trick-eso/
... among others as well, are all just a figment of our imagination. Also so top streamers getting caught suspended for 3 days never happened either. Also cheat engine does not exist.

Now I'm not going to say Kodi cheats. Because that would be completely disingenuous of me. To do so without any proof.

But as time has past. Some of the ex-PvP heroes have been caught red handed cheating, and or purposely using exploits.

I hope you're not seriously referencing the Fengrush macroslice clip as an example of cheating... The only program you needed installed to perform a macroslice at that point in time was ESO. That *** just happened through no fault of your own. You crit rush into an enemy and get stuck in the animation, fire off some skills that eventually unload all at once.

What if someone told you that certain people seem to be able to reproduce the macro slice bug at will? Or that certain people's entire playstyle revolves about it occurring right after a charge? I'll just say that some people do use it and abuse it. You are getting hit by the charge damage from range and then they are spamming the same old same old from range and you can't dodge it or avoid it. It occurs so frequently with certain players it's not happenstance.

That person would be talking out of their ass. The macroslice bug occurs due to a combination of pathing issues and target location. The only way to intentionally reproduce the bug is to make sure your target is moving in a very specific way on particular terrian. Anyone who watches these streams knows full well the bug is unintentional. It has nothing to do with cheating.

The ONLY argument you can make is that when this occurs the player should simply stop inputing actions, and to that i say gtfo, the last thing anyone with a brain would do is willingly put themselves at risk of enduring a cyrdoil death load screen or participate horse riding simulator because zos cant fix a damn bug.

Wreuntzylla

exeeter702 wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

cameron90_ESO wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

These threads are always entertaining because it stirs up the pot and the "known cheaters" float to the top proclaiming superiority over others.

Would it surprise anyone that the "highly respected" denier of all things exploitative can become untargetable when he chooses to? That's when you see your animation speed go super fast and nothing connects...

ZOS has an issue and all these little punks that cheat but talk like they are mma fighters only exist here to muddy the waters so you can't see clearly.

Here is a little trick you might want to try. Try using los around a tree on any of the 1vx crew that uses trees and rocks. You might note that they have no issue attacking you when you do it... so the question is how do they do it?

If anything threads like these are amusing because they highlight who's getting farmed.

Never seen anything close to questionable play in the 3 years Ive been playing this game now. I'd LOVE to see some of these cheats/hacks/macros everyone keeps raging about.

Yeah because there are no cheaters in ESO. And videos as follow...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ91nRKFe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ
http://mmoexploiters.com/elder-scrolls-online/double-mundus-stone-buffs-trick-eso/
... among others as well, are all just a figment of our imagination. Also so top streamers getting caught suspended for 3 days never happened either. Also cheat engine does not exist.

Now I'm not going to say Kodi cheats. Because that would be completely disingenuous of me. To do so without any proof.

But as time has past. Some of the ex-PvP heroes have been caught red handed cheating, and or purposely using exploits.

I hope you're not seriously referencing the Fengrush macroslice clip as an example of cheating... The only program you needed installed to perform a macroslice at that point in time was ESO. That *** just happened through no fault of your own. You crit rush into an enemy and get stuck in the animation, fire off some skills that eventually unload all at once.

What if someone told you that certain people seem to be able to reproduce the macro slice bug at will? Or that certain people's entire playstyle revolves about it occurring right after a charge? I'll just say that some people do use it and abuse it. You are getting hit by the charge damage from range and then they are spamming the same old same old from range and you can't dodge it or avoid it. It occurs so frequently with certain players it's not happenstance.

That person would be talking out of their ass. The macroslice bug occurs due to a combination of pathing issues and target location. The only way to intentionally reproduce the bug is to make sure your target is moving in a very specific way on particular terrian. Anyone who watches these streams knows full well the bug is unintentional. It has nothing to do with cheating.

The ONLY argument you can make is that when this occurs the player should simply stop inputing actions, and to that i say gtfo, the last thing anyone with a brain would do is willingly put themselves at risk of enduring a cyrdoil death load screen or participate horse riding simulator because zos cant fix a damn bug.

Where's that video on these forums where that guy shows everyone how to reproduce it at will? He's dueling in Wayrest I think.

Rianai

Guess you are referring to this thread?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/350579/macro-slice-at-will-secret-pros-hide/p1

Turned out it was just an animation bug on the executing side.

Nightwiish wrote: »

Please delete this thread or lock it.

UPDATE: Just tested this together with @OdinForge (big props for helping me test it). On his end animations look normal. Both Wrecking Blows are visible. It appears the animation onlY bug on players client.

Thogard

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

If Kodi is playing legit and also trolling his viewers by having a picture of the CE interface on his screen, he will be my first internets hero.

OdinForge wrote: »

...

Your arguments are terrible. A macro in a game with an active combat system like ESO would not give you any advantage, it would only hinder you. Macro's are used in the types of games where you have many skills, but all of them operate under lengthy and varrying cool-downs. Often times in those games having a perfected rotation is what gives an advantage. This isn't the same in ESO, you hit someone with a wrecking blow and then press leap to kill them.

....

LOL.

Everyone should pay attention to the CE fallout.

Examples of macros that give/gave a competitive edge in ESO.

1. Macros that combine abilities with different restrictions. Server plays out first usable skill without a delay. Lag free...
2. Convert activate on release to activate on press (there is actually a tutorial on these forums about this).
3. Multi-button press macro - because once is never enough in ESO.

When the CE news broke, it was like a hole had been punched in a dam, and people were spilling the beans on everything from CE to macroing to exploits. Prior to that, the silence was perfect. When anyone talked about something odd, they were beat down on the forums and the same propaganda applied. It wouldn't work in ESO, can't work in lag, nobody uses that, post evidence or stfu, it's not a cheat but a problem between the keyboard and the chair, etc., etc. The beat downs often started with things like "Your arguments are terrible."

It's never been clear whether macroing is cheating, but CE pushed that out into the sunshine as well. My favorite part of that is the macroers constantly said that ESO was too laggy for macros while the whole time macros were being used to defeat lag...

I started to suspect something was odd during a short time period where teleport strike was head and shoulders better than critical charge. Most players continued to use crit rush, including streamers and their build videos. I poked at it because it made no sense at all. The reply from popular streamers back then? 'Game play feels smoother with crit charge.'

Huh, wha?

Eventually teleport strike was not the clear favorite anymore and along came a bug that locked up all the skills of someone using a charge ability (I think copied over from the templar bug of all things...). But not teleports. It was a frequently experienced bug that seriously hurt competitive play. Still, all the NB builds continued to use critical charge...

The CE outpouring confirmed, among other things, that the reason was that teleport strike had no minimum range restriction but critical charge did. Combining critical charge and it's minimum range restriction with a melee skill with a maximum range restriction of 5m meant always staying on target and dealing damage, including against sorcs, regardless of lag.

So, no, macros are not bad in ESO...

Eh... you piqued my interest about the whole “skill on click instead of release” thing. I don’t know if it’s a macro or not but it would save me a lot of grief.. when my fingers get tired my animation cancelling gets sloppy. I’d appreciate a link if you can find one.

exeeter702 wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

cameron90_ESO wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

These threads are always entertaining because it stirs up the pot and the "known cheaters" float to the top proclaiming superiority over others.

Would it surprise anyone that the "highly respected" denier of all things exploitative can become untargetable when he chooses to? That's when you see your animation speed go super fast and nothing connects...

ZOS has an issue and all these little punks that cheat but talk like they are mma fighters only exist here to muddy the waters so you can't see clearly.

Here is a little trick you might want to try. Try using los around a tree on any of the 1vx crew that uses trees and rocks. You might note that they have no issue attacking you when you do it... so the question is how do they do it?

If anything threads like these are amusing because they highlight who's getting farmed.

Never seen anything close to questionable play in the 3 years Ive been playing this game now. I'd LOVE to see some of these cheats/hacks/macros everyone keeps raging about.

Yeah because there are no cheaters in ESO. And videos as follow...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ91nRKFe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ
http://mmoexploiters.com/elder-scrolls-online/double-mundus-stone-buffs-trick-eso/
... among others as well, are all just a figment of our imagination. Also so top streamers getting caught suspended for 3 days never happened either. Also cheat engine does not exist.

Now I'm not going to say Kodi cheats. Because that would be completely disingenuous of me. To do so without any proof.

But as time has past. Some of the ex-PvP heroes have been caught red handed cheating, and or purposely using exploits.

I hope you're not seriously referencing the Fengrush macroslice clip as an example of cheating... The only program you needed installed to perform a macroslice at that point in time was ESO. That *** just happened through no fault of your own. You crit rush into an enemy and get stuck in the animation, fire off some skills that eventually unload all at once.

What if someone told you that certain people seem to be able to reproduce the macro slice bug at will? Or that certain people's entire playstyle revolves about it occurring right after a charge? I'll just say that some people do use it and abuse it. You are getting hit by the charge damage from range and then they are spamming the same old same old from range and you can't dodge it or avoid it. It occurs so frequently with certain players it's not happenstance.

That person would be talking out of their ass. The macroslice bug occurs due to a combination of pathing issues and target location. The only way to intentionally reproduce the bug is to make sure your target is moving in a very specific way on particular terrian. Anyone who watches these streams knows full well the bug is unintentional. It has nothing to do with cheating.

The ONLY argument you can make is that when this occurs the player should simply stop inputing actions, and to that i say gtfo, the last thing anyone with a brain would do is willingly put themselves at risk of enduring a cyrdoil death load screen or participate horse riding simulator because zos cant fix a damn bug.

It also can happen due to packet loss. But just because you see it one way doesn’t mean that both parties see it that way.

Watch the end of the video here:
https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=q0O5DR97bQQ

Stuff like that happens. It’s not lag, it’s packet loss.

Here’s a fun fact though: ESO has terrible packet management systems. You can decrease your rate of packet loss by decreasing your router’s MTU setting. That would significantly reduce bugs like the one above from happening.

Kay1

Again this, he play on NA

Even playboerd is good on NA

Lmao look at the build he uses, those build on EU will get marked snipe purifying sub assault with a soul strike and he's R.I.P while the EP zerg tbags him and get in stealth all that while templars put rituals of retribution camping his body

rfennell_ESO

exeeter702 wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

cameron90_ESO wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

These threads are always entertaining because it stirs up the pot and the "known cheaters" float to the top proclaiming superiority over others.

Would it surprise anyone that the "highly respected" denier of all things exploitative can become untargetable when he chooses to? That's when you see your animation speed go super fast and nothing connects...

ZOS has an issue and all these little punks that cheat but talk like they are mma fighters only exist here to muddy the waters so you can't see clearly.

Here is a little trick you might want to try. Try using los around a tree on any of the 1vx crew that uses trees and rocks. You might note that they have no issue attacking you when you do it... so the question is how do they do it?

If anything threads like these are amusing because they highlight who's getting farmed.

Never seen anything close to questionable play in the 3 years Ive been playing this game now. I'd LOVE to see some of these cheats/hacks/macros everyone keeps raging about.

Yeah because there are no cheaters in ESO. And videos as follow...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ91nRKFe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ
http://mmoexploiters.com/elder-scrolls-online/double-mundus-stone-buffs-trick-eso/
... among others as well, are all just a figment of our imagination. Also so top streamers getting caught suspended for 3 days never happened either. Also cheat engine does not exist.

Now I'm not going to say Kodi cheats. Because that would be completely disingenuous of me. To do so without any proof.

But as time has past. Some of the ex-PvP heroes have been caught red handed cheating, and or purposely using exploits.

I hope you're not seriously referencing the Fengrush macroslice clip as an example of cheating... The only program you needed installed to perform a macroslice at that point in time was ESO. That *** just happened through no fault of your own. You crit rush into an enemy and get stuck in the animation, fire off some skills that eventually unload all at once.

What if someone told you that certain people seem to be able to reproduce the macro slice bug at will? Or that certain people's entire playstyle revolves about it occurring right after a charge? I'll just say that some people do use it and abuse it. You are getting hit by the charge damage from range and then they are spamming the same old same old from range and you can't dodge it or avoid it. It occurs so frequently with certain players it's not happenstance.

That person would be talking out of their ass. The macroslice bug occurs due to a combination of pathing issues and target location. The only way to intentionally reproduce the bug is to make sure your target is moving in a very specific way on particular terrian. Anyone who watches these streams knows full well the bug is unintentional. It has nothing to do with cheating.

The ONLY argument you can make is that when this occurs the player should simply stop inputing actions, and to that i say gtfo, the last thing anyone with a brain would do is willingly put themselves at risk of enduring a cyrdoil death load screen or participate horse riding simulator because zos cant fix a damn bug.

Haha I guess the person talking out of their ass would be me amirite?

Oddly enough... not only does the person in the video do it constantly and at will, it's his entire playstyle.

Wreuntzylla

@Thogard

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/95720/using-razer-macros-to-change-abilities-from-activate-on-release-to-press

Kalante

i remember that day when fengrush macrosliced that guy and the horse running sideways like it was yesterday.

kharl08

https://clips.twitch.tv/StylishPowerfulSheepPanicBasket

https://clips.twitch.tv/ModernPoorDeerSuperVinlin

https://clips.twitch.tv/HeadstrongHomelyBatteryHeyGirl

KodiPVP hates my build...

BroanBeast1215

kharl08 wrote: »

https://clips.twitch.tv/StylishPowerfulSheepPanicBasket

https://clips.twitch.tv/ModernPoorDeerSuperVinlin

https://clips.twitch.tv/HeadstrongHomelyBatteryHeyGirl

lmao.

Savos_Saren

@kharl08

Are you basically just defiling his health until your teammates wear him down?

kharl08

jaburns wrote: »

@kharl08

Are you basically just defiling his health until your teammates wear him down?

I'm applying DOTS, stuns, snare, DE buff and had plenty of damage to wear him down, and while tanking for my group.

Jaxaxo

So u're tanking one guy for your group?

Thogard

Jaxaxo wrote: »

So u're tanking one guy for your group?

Lol
Kodi is really good but even if he was hacking, I don’t think I’d go around bragging about X v 1ing somebody.

kharl08

Jaxaxo wrote: »

So u're tanking one guy for your group?

Man what do you want me to tell you? I'm tanking just him? It's an open world PVP and I'm just answering the question of the other guy.

kharl08

Thogard wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

So u're tanking one guy for your group?

Lol
Kodi is really good but even if he was hacking, I don’t think I’d go around bragging about X v 1ing somebody.

I don't think his hacking, he's just that good at PVP, like the other guy sypherPK.

Savos_Saren

Heck- does SypherPK even play ESO anymore?

madeeh91rwb17_ESO

kharl08 wrote: »

KodiPVP hates my build...

May I ask what you are using?

kharl08

madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »

kharl08 wrote: »

KodiPVP hates my build...

May I ask what you are using?

Durok's Bane - Desert Rose and Blood Spawn.

Xvorg

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

Savos_Saren

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

Sinners!!! There’s only one true SciFi space TV show worth mentioning: Firefly

Thogard

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

jaburns wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

Sinners!!! There’s only one true SciFi space TV show worth mentioning: Firefly

You guys gotta check out the expanse. Best sci fi show IMO

Farscape76

jaburns wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

Sinners!!! There’s only one true SciFi space TV show worth mentioning: Firefly

Gotta love Farscape (I mean come on check out my tag) but also have to admit Firefly was amazing too

Animus-ESO

Thogard wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

jaburns wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

Sinners!!! There’s only one true SciFi space TV show worth mentioning: Firefly

You guys gotta check out the expanse. Best sci fi show IMO

YESSSSSSS expanse is the best scifi show hands down

Thogard

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

jaburns wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

Sinners!!! There’s only one true SciFi space TV show worth mentioning: Firefly

You guys gotta check out the expanse. Best sci fi show IMO

YESSSSSSS expanse is the best scifi show hands down

Just the fact that there aren’t any aliens wearing cheap prosthetic foreheads walking around makes it a contender

But the plot is amazing, the acting is amazing, and the setting is realistic and not at all cliche. It does for sci fi what game of thrones did for magic / fantasy.

Malamar1229

Thogard wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

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"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

jaburns wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

"Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
-Battlestar galactica

Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

I think Farscape comes pretty close

Sinners!!! There’s only one true SciFi space TV show worth mentioning: Firefly

You guys gotta check out the expanse. Best sci fi show IMO

I have seen all of those listed....BSG is still #1