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Using Razer Macros to change abilities from activate on release to press.

t.claudio.usnub18_ESO
I wanted to help you folks out, I read a few people saying that they are having some ability delays, and I feel ya, but what you think is ability delay is not delay at all.
ESO unlike just about every MMO has it set up were abilities go off upon key release instead of key press, having abilities go off on key release does just as it sounds so any delay on your part when pressing a ability will seem delayed.

I found a simple fix using a programmable Razer Naga Mouse, go into your software macro command (Synapse 2.0) and recreate the ability keys to go off on key press by creating a macro that reads (example: 1 down-1 up and so on) with no delay input and bind it to your keyboard or mouse buttons to play on key press, this will make all your abilities that you macro go off the moment you press the key, this made such a major difference in my game play I am shocked that ESO did not input this as a default function into the game.


Using the program Razer Synapse 2.0, I will do my best to show you what I did to program my mouse side buttons to trigger my abilities to go off on key press.

Step 1: Open up your macro tab.
Step 2: Click the + symbol on the left hand side below were it says "MACRO" . now name your macro under "MACRO NAME", (I named the macros in this case ESO 1-6) in this picture you see ESO 2 (meaning the number 2 ability key).
Step 3: On the left hand side click the "NO DELAY" so that it is enabled.
Step 4: On the left hand side click the "RECORD" then press the key of choice once.
Step 5: Click stop "RECORD".
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Now that you recorded the keys you want to use in game you will have to set them up, below I am going to bind my macro to my mouse side buttons, click on the number keys that you want to use.
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When you click the button that you want to use you will see a drop down tab, select "MACRO" under "BUTTON ASSIGNMENT", then below that you will see "ASSIGN MACRO", open the drop down tab and find the macro you created in this case ESO 2.
Below that you will see "PLAYBACK OPTION", select "PLAY ONCE".
Now just repeat the process on all the keys you want to macro and you are done.
Open ESO running the program in the back round and enjoy.
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Edited by t.claudio.usnub18_ESO on February 13, 2015 5:23AM
  • steroidarmy
    steroidarmy
    Soul Shriven
    This is a great guide, many people don't know that the action bar activates on key release!
  • GattacaGaming
    Amazing guide thank you for sharing it. This has helped me a lot.
  • Vanathi
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    Thank you for this! It was driving my crazy thinking it just wasn't responding. Not running out to buy a new mouse though :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
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  • t.claudio.usnub18_ESO
    Hey maybe someone can create a Add-on to do this for those that do not have a programmable mouse or keyboard?

    I am sorry as I don't know how to create Add-ons yet, so any of you Add-on pros please feel free to create one if you can, I think an Add-on such as this would help many players and grant you many thanks.
  • Vanathi
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    Okay, I made myself a liar. I went out and bought a Naga just because of the delay. Thank you for this information. My game life just became dramatically easier.

    *edit* sent it back because the buttons on the side of the mouse were too small and too close together. Completely unusable for me.
    Edited by Vanathi on June 17, 2014 6:25PM
    "M'aiq was told to stay away from Oldgate. This confused him. M'aiq remembers when it was called Gate." M'aiq The Liar
  • Lead82
    Lead82
    Soul Shriven
    @Vanathi, not to be a commercial for Razer, but you might consider the Naga Hex. It has only 6 buttons instead of 12 and they're a bit larger. It may be easier to use.
  • Tiyamel
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    @Vanathi try the MadCatz M.M.O.7, much better layout of buttons, not all scrunched up in a small block.
    http://cyborggaming.com/prod/mmo.htm
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  • Hofi814
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    Tiyamel wrote: »
    @Vanathi try the MadCatz M.M.O.7, much better layout of buttons, not all scrunched up in a small block.
    http://cyborggaming.com/prod/mmo.htm

    I have this mouse and I have a Razor DeathStalker keyboard I use macros on both the mouse and my keyboard. Aaaammmmaaazzzzziiiinnngg
    Good day sir! I SAID GOOD DAY!
  • Francescolg
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    Y, but not all macro-types work perfectly with ESO.
    For example, if you put a GTAE-spell on a macro + left mouse button to directly cast the GTAE to the place where you mouse cursor stands on push, it will not always work. Tested with the mmo7 macro editor
  • Syress17
    Syress17
    can this be done with a weapon swap, if so how would i write a macro for lets say

    Swap to weapon load out to
    then Use ability X ?
  • Electric Feel
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    This works great however I notice that for some reason now none of my buffs or debuffs that I cast are being tracked, is there any fix or workaround for this, pushing the button on my keyboard still activates the icons for tracking just not when I use my Naga to do it.
  • abuniffpreub18_ESO
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    Question and a problem.
    First off I tried the Razer Naga and the buttons are too small for me.
    Also tried a Logitech G600. Better but here's my problem.

    When I click the side buttons to use 1 thru 5 my hand also presses down on the left and right click buttons on the mouse. they are apparently very sensitive. Is there a way to lessen the sensitivity of the right and left click buttons ?.

    Or would the Naga Hex or the MadCatz M.M.O.7 be better for me. Or should I just keep using a regular mouse ?. I would just like to have all the commands in one spot instead of reaching across the keyboard to press 1 thru 5.
  • Vraneon
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    Thx alot for this article!
    Edited by Vraneon on January 13, 2015 12:14AM
  • Lettigall
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    5.1 Users are forbidden from using any unapproved third party applications, programs, scripts or any other game modifying mechanic used to change the game play experience on a ZeniMax Game, Service, forum, or other games or services provided by ZeniMax, including the distribution of said programs via ZeniMax services, sites, forums, communities, etc. This would include but is not limited to using or distributing speed hacks, aim bots, mouse controllers, spam bots, automated game play devices, etc. Third party applications are defined as any program, application or script written by an individual, company, corporation, or private party not employed by or contracted to perform services by ZeniMax.

    Technically it's against the rules, but in reality ZOS don't care. If someday you get banned for using macros, don't cry in forums that you got ban for no reason.
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  • Cuyler
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    Lettigall wrote: »
    5.1 Users are forbidden from using any unapproved third party applications, programs, scripts or any other game modifying mechanic used to change the game play experience on a ZeniMax Game, Service, forum, or other games or services provided by ZeniMax, including the distribution of said programs via ZeniMax services, sites, forums, communities, etc. This would include but is not limited to using or distributing speed hacks, aim bots, mouse controllers, spam bots, automated game play devices, etc. Third party applications are defined as any program, application or script written by an individual, company, corporation, or private party not employed by or contracted to perform services by ZeniMax.

    Technically it's against the rules, but in reality ZOS don't care. If someday you get banned for using macros, don't cry in forums that you got ban for no reason.

    Yep, L2P without it. It against TOS people.
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  • Lettigall
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    Cuyler wrote: »

    Yep, L2P without it. It against TOS people.

    Sorry, but I was wrong, since I have programmable mouse too I wrote support to clarify is it allowed or not. I was shocked by the answer:
    Thank you for contacting the Elder Scrolls Online. The use of macro's is perfectly legal. There is nothing wrong with using Macros, if you have a mouse or keyboard that can be set up with macro's and you wish to use them feel free. If you have any other questions or concerns please feel free to reply to this email.

    Warm Regards, Jon
    The Elder Scrolls Support Team.

    All this time I believed that I was playing fair by not using macros, but turns out I was a fool who didn't take advantage of his mouse :\

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  • Fivefivesix
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    Wow that's nuts
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  • Surragard
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    This is a solid guide. I'm thinking of picking up a Naga so I'll be bookmarking this. As for the ToS, I've been reading a bunch of forum posts where people claim that using keyboard/mouse macros gets you banned but I've never read about anyone who actually got banned. I think ZoS is concerned with botting and unattended macros.
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  • LogicalPhule
    LogicalPhule
    Soul Shriven
    Hmm... I think I'll bookmark this for later :)
  • SmalltalkJava
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    weapon swap button works differently than the skill buttons. Weapon swap button will actually swap the weapons when you press the button.
  • Threemoons
    Threemoons
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    Bump. I just got me a whole new shazbit load of stuff from Razer--Blackwidow Chroma, Naga Chroma, and FireFly (because it was on sale). Now I'm configuring all of this stuff.

    HOW do you configure for ESO IN-GAME?

    Ring ring, I need someone to ring the clue phone for me on this; the only stuff I see on YouTube is guys typing crap like "hello world" examples or they are dealing with the Razer-supported WoW plugins.

    Thanks so much for any help out there!
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  • Banetek
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    Hey to all you people wo *** about dredging up an old post.. suck it. I have something to add IN CONTEXT to this Thread and I found it because its pertinent to my post..


    NOW..

    For those of you who enjoy the Razer Naga but hate those tiny side buttons and RAN OUT of newbie trainer pads.. I have a simple fix that help me and my fat fingers...

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    I went to Michaels Arts and crafts and got these small little metal rivet looking things. Apparently the women use them for scrap booking and other stuff like that. I super glued them and it really helped. and my thumbs are about as bad as as it gets... Don't let fat fingers keep you from that edge in gaming!!



    On to my next statement. If you set the macro and include a delay and only play it ONCE you should have your 1 press for one action and not get banned.. at least that's what I am gathering from OP's post.. Can any one clarify that's not butt hurt over an old post being brought back to life for good reason.
    Edited by Banetek on November 19, 2016 3:10AM
  • ZombieZig
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    Thank you for this article. I swear this delay had caused deaths and issues while in cyro before. Feels MUCH better now thank you.
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