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KodiPvP, how does he do it?

  • Sylosi
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    You know I was watching a BDO stream the other month, and in it the guy (King Krotha) was talking with the guy he was grinding with, and one of the things that came up was how most players are unaware of how many ESO streamers had used things like cheat engines, macros, etc at some point and guess whose name came up... (as did "she who shall not be named" ;) )
    Edited by Sylosi on November 10, 2017 12:24AM
  • Stratforge
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    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.
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  • Dredlord
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    Sylosi wrote: »
    You know I was watching a BDO stream the other month, and in it the guy (King Krotha) was talking with the guy he was grinding with, and one of the things that came up was how most players are unaware of how many ESO streamers had used things like cheat engines, macros, etc at some point and guess whose name came up... (as did "she who shall not be named" ;) )

    Careful man, make sure your ready for all hate and arguments way outa left field. It can get a lil crazy when you shatter these fanbois dreams of their hero...
  • StackonClown
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    Sylosi wrote: »
    You know I was watching a BDO stream the other month, and in it the guy (King Krotha) was talking with the guy he was grinding with, and one of the things that came up was how most players are unaware of how many ESO streamers had used things like cheat engines, macros, etc at some point and guess whose name came up... (as did "she who shall not be named" ;) )

    ^
  • Dredlord
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    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    *** off, I got work to do...
  • lazerlaz
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    Nobody streams or takes PC gaming seriously without a macro keyboard and mouse. It would be irresponsible and foolish of them! Problem is, they all think they're good while acting as if they don't.

    I play on console, but what I miss the most about my PC days is having my G11 keyboard run a 5 buff rotation on DAoC or something similar on UO. Some of y'all know what games I'm talking about ;). No question I would do the same on ESO so why wouldn't they?!
  • raasdal
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    Dredlord wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    *** off, I got work to do...

    LoL. That hit the sweetspot did'nt it? He is right though. I also fully understand your point. I just "don't believe you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing". Could not have said it better myself.

    You don't even have to comment or break it down into anything. Just post the raw video of what you saw, and i am sure someone will help you accurately interpret what actually happened during that fight.
    Edited by raasdal on November 10, 2017 12:14PM
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  • Malamar1229
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    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    I'm not a fan boy, in fact, in my circle of friends we laugh when he publishes a build, because they're usually just OK.

    However, "he lied to me about what mechanics he's using" isn't valid. If you've got the video I'd love to see it though

    Youre a fanboi and calling his builds "just ok" as proof youre not, isn't valid...see what I did there.

    I have read enough of your posts to know you are incapable of having an open mind or changing your opinion no matter what I post.

    Not defending anyone here but sometimes we get a lot of messages while trying to PvP and while I usually don't respond, sometimes when I do I will answer with the wrong morph because my brain doesn't function that quickly. I still say dark deal all the time even though I mean to say conversion. He could be using pots and rally and just say fwd momentum but meaning rally.

    I'm more so surprised you caught him in open world without his pocket healer.
    Edited by Malamar1229 on November 10, 2017 12:43PM
  • Malamar1229
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    "Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
    -Battlestar galactica
  • rfennell_ESO
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    The simple logic is who is more likely to use any and all underhanded methods in a game.

    Those that have monetized twitch and youtube perhaps?

    This is why they and their pathetic sycophantic supporters (who "subscribe", and by that I mean pay for the goods) respond to any and all questions of impropriety with derision and vitriol. The more venom they spew the more likely they are dishonest, mostly because they never have to face anyone to answer their empty talk.

    In a game exposed as a cheater's haven... there doesn't seem to be any cheaters.

  • Minno
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    "Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
    -Battlestar galactica

    Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.
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    - Filthy Casual
  • Dredlord
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    *** off, I got work to do...

    LoL. That hit the sweetspot did'nt it? He is right though. I also fully understand your point. I just "don't believe you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing". Could not have said it better myself.

    You don't even have to comment or break it down into anything. Just post the raw video of what you saw, and i am sure someone will help you accurately interpret what actually happened during that fight.

    Actually its a favourite quote from trailer park boys, and you know naming and shaming on the video. If i got a forum ban you guys would miss me too much...
  • Lexxypwns
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    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.
    Edited by Lexxypwns on November 10, 2017 4:49PM
  • Dredlord
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Sorry kid I have no expections of you. Even less than someone I have never met. Where did you get that idea. You must have mixed me up with the other poster who told you to go look at his stream.

    There s no burden of proof for me in sharing my story. You start to sound like a cheater yourself when you talk like that...
  • raasdal
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    NVM. Not worth it. Loggin out of this thread.
    Edited by raasdal on November 10, 2017 6:32PM
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  • Waffennacht
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    Does it even matter?
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Lexxypwns
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    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Sorry kid I have no expections of you. Even less than someone I have never met. Where did you get that idea. You must have mixed me up with the other poster who told you to go look at his stream.

    There s no burden of proof for me in sharing my story. You start to sound like a cheater yourself when you talk like that...

    Yeah man, I'm running CE on Xbox. I also have macros to animation cancel all my skills too. I've also got a program that makes my skill bars show different icons than the skills I'm actually using. And I've figured out how to enable console commands and given myself and all my friends infinite gold. OH, plus I've hacked myself a flying mount and a real dragon pet! when I'm in wayrest all the kids be like "woah, where'd you get that dragon"

    It's lit AF
    Edited by Lexxypwns on November 10, 2017 6:43PM
  • FloppyTouch
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Sorry kid I have no expections of you. Even less than someone I have never met. Where did you get that idea. You must have mixed me up with the other poster who told you to go look at his stream.

    There s no burden of proof for me in sharing my story. You start to sound like a cheater yourself when you talk like that...

    Yeah man, I'm running CE on Xbox. I also have macros to animation cancel all my skills too. I've also got a program that makes my skill bars show different icons than the skills I'm actually using. And I've figured out how to enable console commands and given myself and all my friends infinite gold. OH, plus I've hacked myself a flying mount and a real dragon pet! when I'm in wayrest all the kids be like "woah, where'd you get that dragon"

    It's lit AF

    Damn I’m jelly
  • Akinos
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    Minno wrote: »
    "Religion was primitive man's way of explaining why the sun set each night
    -Battlestar galactica

    Best sci Fi series hands down. Only sci Fi show to not have cliche lazers for weapons.

    You should watch the Expanse...
    PC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp
  • Minno
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    Does it even matter?

    Nope. But then again ESO is not measurable competitive gaming.

    Though if rally was used but he has videos showing 100% uptime on snare immunity; I'd imagine there is a bug at work and we should be glad the general public has no knowledge of it.
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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  • ShadowProc
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Thats the problem though. It is extremely difficult to detect CE. Just enough to get an edge in stats. In a game always following the meta you can just feel the difference when fighting him and others.

    We say watch the stream because you can literally see the macroes and the difference in survivability whwn fighting outnumbered.

    You should have saw the difference in how killable this player and the girl were after the CE scandal.

    If i recall correctly they were both gone from,the game for 2-4 weeks right after that as well. ;)
  • OdinForge
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    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Thats the problem though. It is extremely difficult to detect CE. Just enough to get an edge in stats. In a game always following the meta you can just feel the difference when fighting him and others.

    We say watch the stream because you can literally see the macroes and the difference in survivability whwn fighting outnumbered.

    You should have saw the difference in how killable this player and the girl were after the CE scandal.

    If i recall correctly they were both gone from,the game for 2-4 weeks right after that as well. ;)

    Your arguments are terrible. A macro in a game with an active combat system like ESO would not give you any advantage, it would only hinder you. Macro's are used in the types of games where you have many skills, but all of them operate under lengthy and varrying cool-downs. Often times in those games having a perfected rotation is what gives an advantage. This isn't the same in ESO, you hit someone with a wrecking blow and then press leap to kill them.

    And if you recall 2-4 weeks after the CE weekend, Dark Brotherhood dropped with big changes to the game. Every stamina player went from using and surviving in medium armor, to learning that medium was too susceptible to newer higher burst damage of that patch, and everyone eventually started switching to heavy armor.

    We all know that you are BS'ing based on the very things you say, if you want to prove that someone is cheating record their stream and make a video breaking down why you think it's cheating. You won't or actually cannot do this, because you literally wouldn't know what you're talking about in the first place.
    Edited by OdinForge on November 10, 2017 7:10PM
    The Age of Wrobel.
  • Dredlord
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Sorry kid I have no expections of you. Even less than someone I have never met. Where did you get that idea. You must have mixed me up with the other poster who told you to go look at his stream.

    There s no burden of proof for me in sharing my story. You start to sound like a cheater yourself when you talk like that...

    Yeah man, I'm running CE on Xbox. I also have macros to animation cancel all my skills too. I've also got a program that makes my skill bars show different icons than the skills I'm actually using. And I've figured out how to enable console commands and given myself and all my friends infinite gold. OH, plus I've hacked myself a flying mount and a real dragon pet! when I'm in wayrest all the kids be like "woah, where'd you get that dragon"

    It's lit AF

    Nice post, you seem like an even bigger tool than before...

    Did you say you played on console AND pc?

    As far as macros and scripts running on console, plenty using them.
    http://cronusmax.com

    Either educate yourself and have an open mind OR stop cheating and defending your advantage in threads like this. You definately fall into one of those 2 categories.
  • ShadowProc
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    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Thats the problem though. It is extremely difficult to detect CE. Just enough to get an edge in stats. In a game always following the meta you can just feel the difference when fighting him and others.

    We say watch the stream because you can literally see the macroes and the difference in survivability whwn fighting outnumbered.

    You should have saw the difference in how killable this player and the girl were after the CE scandal.

    If i recall correctly they were both gone from,the game for 2-4 weeks right after that as well. ;)

    Your arguments are terrible. A macro in a game with an active combat system like ESO would not give you any advantage, it would only hinder you. Macro's are used in the types of games where you have many skills, but all of them operate under lengthy and varrying cool-downs. Often times in those games having a perfected rotation is what gives an advantage. This isn't the same in ESO, you hit someone with a wrecking blow and then press leap to kill them.

    And if you recall 2-4 weeks after the CE weekend, Dark Brotherhood dropped with big changes to the game. Every stamina player went from using and surviving in medium armor, to learning that medium was too susceptible to newer higher burst damage of that patch, and everyone eventually started switching to heavy armor.

    We all know that you are BS'ing based on the very things you say, if you want to prove that someone is cheating record their stream and make a video breaking down why you think it's cheating. You won't or actually cannot do this, because you literally wouldn't know what you're talking about in the first place.

    Alright. Yet another that is letting emotion cloud judgement. If you cant be civil then i dont care to converse with you.

    Explain to me then how to proove someone is using CE with a video?
    Edited by ShadowProc on November 10, 2017 8:10PM
  • BroanBeast1215
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    ShadowProc wrote: »
    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Thats the problem though. It is extremely difficult to detect CE. Just enough to get an edge in stats. In a game always following the meta you can just feel the difference when fighting him and others.

    We say watch the stream because you can literally see the macroes and the difference in survivability whwn fighting outnumbered.

    You should have saw the difference in how killable this player and the girl were after the CE scandal.

    If i recall correctly they were both gone from,the game for 2-4 weeks right after that as well. ;)

    Your arguments are terrible. A macro in a game with an active combat system like ESO would not give you any advantage, it would only hinder you. Macro's are used in the types of games where you have many skills, but all of them operate under lengthy and varrying cool-downs. Often times in those games having a perfected rotation is what gives an advantage. This isn't the same in ESO, you hit someone with a wrecking blow and then press leap to kill them.

    And if you recall 2-4 weeks after the CE weekend, Dark Brotherhood dropped with big changes to the game. Every stamina player went from using and surviving in medium armor, to learning that medium was too susceptible to newer higher burst damage of that patch, and everyone eventually started switching to heavy armor.

    We all know that you are BS'ing based on the very things you say, if you want to prove that someone is cheating record their stream and make a video breaking down why you think it's cheating. You won't or actually cannot do this, because you literally wouldn't know what you're talking about in the first place.

    Alright. Yet another that is letting emotion cloud judgement. If you cant be civil then i dont care to converse with you.

    Explain to me then how to proove someone is using CE with a video?

    the same way you can prove he's cheating by watching his stream lololol

  • OdinForge
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    ShadowProc wrote: »
    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Thats the problem though. It is extremely difficult to detect CE. Just enough to get an edge in stats. In a game always following the meta you can just feel the difference when fighting him and others.

    We say watch the stream because you can literally see the macroes and the difference in survivability whwn fighting outnumbered.

    You should have saw the difference in how killable this player and the girl were after the CE scandal.

    If i recall correctly they were both gone from,the game for 2-4 weeks right after that as well. ;)

    Your arguments are terrible. A macro in a game with an active combat system like ESO would not give you any advantage, it would only hinder you. Macro's are used in the types of games where you have many skills, but all of them operate under lengthy and varrying cool-downs. Often times in those games having a perfected rotation is what gives an advantage. This isn't the same in ESO, you hit someone with a wrecking blow and then press leap to kill them.

    And if you recall 2-4 weeks after the CE weekend, Dark Brotherhood dropped with big changes to the game. Every stamina player went from using and surviving in medium armor, to learning that medium was too susceptible to newer higher burst damage of that patch, and everyone eventually started switching to heavy armor.

    We all know that you are BS'ing based on the very things you say, if you want to prove that someone is cheating record their stream and make a video breaking down why you think it's cheating. You won't or actually cannot do this, because you literally wouldn't know what you're talking about in the first place.

    Alright. Yet another that is letting emotion cloud judgement. If you cant be civil then i dont care to converse with you.

    Explain to me then how to proove someone is using CE with a video?

    If you can't prove something is a thing, maybe that's because it isn't a thing. On one hand you're telling people to watch Kodi stream to see evidence of him cheating, and then when we explain you need to prove this you claim it's impossible based on video alone.

    Your logic is literally all over the place, and you're getting called out for it. If you have an accusation it's your job to prove it, not expect people to listen to you blindly.
    The Age of Wrobel.
  • rfennell_ESO
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    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Thats the problem though. It is extremely difficult to detect CE. Just enough to get an edge in stats. In a game always following the meta you can just feel the difference when fighting him and others.

    We say watch the stream because you can literally see the macroes and the difference in survivability whwn fighting outnumbered.

    You should have saw the difference in how killable this player and the girl were after the CE scandal.

    If i recall correctly they were both gone from,the game for 2-4 weeks right after that as well. ;)

    Your arguments are terrible. A macro in a game with an active combat system like ESO would not give you any advantage, it would only hinder you. Macro's are used in the types of games where you have many skills, but all of them operate under lengthy and varrying cool-downs. Often times in those games having a perfected rotation is what gives an advantage. This isn't the same in ESO, you hit someone with a wrecking blow and then press leap to kill them.

    And if you recall 2-4 weeks after the CE weekend, Dark Brotherhood dropped with big changes to the game. Every stamina player went from using and surviving in medium armor, to learning that medium was too susceptible to newer higher burst damage of that patch, and everyone eventually started switching to heavy armor.

    We all know that you are BS'ing based on the very things you say, if you want to prove that someone is cheating record their stream and make a video breaking down why you think it's cheating. You won't or actually cannot do this, because you literally wouldn't know what you're talking about in the first place.

    Alright. Yet another that is letting emotion cloud judgement. If you cant be civil then i dont care to converse with you.

    Explain to me then how to proove someone is using CE with a video?

    If you can't prove something is a thing, maybe that's because it isn't a thing. On one hand you're telling people to watch Kodi stream to see evidence of him cheating, and then when we explain you need to prove this you claim it's impossible based on video alone.

    Your logic is literally all over the place, and you're getting called out for it. If you have an accusation it's your job to prove it, not expect people to listen to you blindly.

    Shrug... it only takes a moment to watch nearly any stream he has up and start wondering where exactly the stamina is coming from. Particularly when he's always sprinting and blocking and dodging everything.

    On his "build video" he shows himself having 1300 stamina regen. His only real stamina boost is redguard and his immovable pots. No stamina reduction either.

    Seriously... you have never wondered?

    A buddy of mine tries out Kodi's builds and he always says the same thing... no resources, how's it possible?
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    You should watch the Expanse...

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    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
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    Dredlord wrote: »
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    Valencer wrote: »
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    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

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    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Thats the problem though. It is extremely difficult to detect CE. Just enough to get an edge in stats. In a game always following the meta you can just feel the difference when fighting him and others.

    We say watch the stream because you can literally see the macroes and the difference in survivability whwn fighting outnumbered.

    You should have saw the difference in how killable this player and the girl were after the CE scandal.

    If i recall correctly they were both gone from,the game for 2-4 weeks right after that as well. ;)

    Your arguments are terrible. A macro in a game with an active combat system like ESO would not give you any advantage, it would only hinder you. Macro's are used in the types of games where you have many skills, but all of them operate under lengthy and varrying cool-downs. Often times in those games having a perfected rotation is what gives an advantage. This isn't the same in ESO, you hit someone with a wrecking blow and then press leap to kill them.

    And if you recall 2-4 weeks after the CE weekend, Dark Brotherhood dropped with big changes to the game. Every stamina player went from using and surviving in medium armor, to learning that medium was too susceptible to newer higher burst damage of that patch, and everyone eventually started switching to heavy armor.

    We all know that you are BS'ing based on the very things you say, if you want to prove that someone is cheating record their stream and make a video breaking down why you think it's cheating. You won't or actually cannot do this, because you literally wouldn't know what you're talking about in the first place.

    Alright. Yet another that is letting emotion cloud judgement. If you cant be civil then i dont care to converse with you.

    Explain to me then how to proove someone is using CE with a video?

    If you can't prove something is a thing, maybe that's because it isn't a thing. On one hand you're telling people to watch Kodi stream to see evidence of him cheating, and then when we explain you need to prove this you claim it's impossible based on video alone.

    Your logic is literally all over the place, and you're getting called out for it. If you have an accusation it's your job to prove it, not expect people to listen to you blindly.

    Getting called out by those that cannot see whats in their face. Unlimited resources, high dodge chance, 100% cc imminity, rediculous damage.

    Ya. Your right. Lol

    Only one thing explains that. CE
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    ShadowProc wrote: »
    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    OdinForge wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Stratforge wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    He's a good player who cheats subtley and intelligently and he rarely gets caught.

    I was fighting him one day in cyro and msg him after I noticed something odd. I asked him how he can be immune to snares and root constantly while he fights. I knew what he would say, of course he told me forward momentum...

    I said that is strange because i just recorded you getting the big burst heal from rally while we were fighting. No response after that...

    40% uptime on snare, root, and CCimmunuty exists in another way that's not cheating

    This was not 40% snare immunity uptime. This was a 3-4 minute fight with 100% uptime that I eventually just walked away from.

    Try and focus on what he said, then imagine how he pulled off a burst heal by refreshing "forward momentum"...

    Try and quell your fanboism long enough to consider, he might be a cheater. And yes, I have considered he may not be before you jump in with the 'No You' argument.

    Stamina wardens have a class-based burst heal (Soothing Spores) and don't need Rally at all. Have you considered this at all?

    Lol...its awesome when the streamer fanbois are willing to dream up anything so their hero can save face.

    Let me ask you, what made you think he was playing a warden at the time?

    So what class, build setup was it?

    He was playing his stamblade with 2h and if i remember correctly, bow back bar.

    He doesn't use forward momentum on his stamblade since he's in medium on that class.....

    We got some slow learners here dont we...

    That was my whole *** point. He uses rally and told me forward momentum was how he was getting all that sexy root and snare immunity. Cmon be a learner. Its no wonder you tools dont see cheating that is going on right in front of you.

    People understand what you're saying. Nobody believes you have the ability to accurately interpret what you're witnessing. Seriously just clip a video where you see what you say you see and post it. Until then this whole discussion isn't very constructive.

    He claims to have evidence then refuses to show or even link us a clip showing said evidence. Then he claims he's got too much work to do but he's here expecting me to sift through hours upon hours of footage to prove him right.

    ur7ip.jpg


    He wants to take me being civil about my feelings towards this streamer as me being a fan boy, I'm literally begging him for a chance to believe him because I think it would be hilarious if he's right. But the burden of proof is on you when you make an accusation of cheating and thus far there is no proof.

    Thats the problem though. It is extremely difficult to detect CE. Just enough to get an edge in stats. In a game always following the meta you can just feel the difference when fighting him and others.

    We say watch the stream because you can literally see the macroes and the difference in survivability whwn fighting outnumbered.

    You should have saw the difference in how killable this player and the girl were after the CE scandal.

    If i recall correctly they were both gone from,the game for 2-4 weeks right after that as well. ;)

    Your arguments are terrible. A macro in a game with an active combat system like ESO would not give you any advantage, it would only hinder you. Macro's are used in the types of games where you have many skills, but all of them operate under lengthy and varrying cool-downs. Often times in those games having a perfected rotation is what gives an advantage. This isn't the same in ESO, you hit someone with a wrecking blow and then press leap to kill them.

    And if you recall 2-4 weeks after the CE weekend, Dark Brotherhood dropped with big changes to the game. Every stamina player went from using and surviving in medium armor, to learning that medium was too susceptible to newer higher burst damage of that patch, and everyone eventually started switching to heavy armor.

    We all know that you are BS'ing based on the very things you say, if you want to prove that someone is cheating record their stream and make a video breaking down why you think it's cheating. You won't or actually cannot do this, because you literally wouldn't know what you're talking about in the first place.

    Alright. Yet another that is letting emotion cloud judgement. If you cant be civil then i dont care to converse with you.

    Explain to me then how to proove someone is using CE with a video?

    If you can't prove something is a thing, maybe that's because it isn't a thing. On one hand you're telling people to watch Kodi stream to see evidence of him cheating, and then when we explain you need to prove this you claim it's impossible based on video alone.

    Your logic is literally all over the place, and you're getting called out for it. If you have an accusation it's your job to prove it, not expect people to listen to you blindly.

    Getting called out by those that cannot see whats in their face. Unlimited resources, high dodge chance, 100% cc imminity, rediculous damage.

    Ya. Your right. Lol

    Only one thing explains that. CE

    Show me a clip, literally just link a stream and a time stamp, something less than 10 minutes. I really want to see what you're saying, but I don't have time to look at his stream
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