rfennell_ESO wrote: »Not sure why anyone would be happy to see this guy go. Kodi is a great player and has done a lot for the pvp community. I have seen him win and I have seen him lose and in both cases he was always respectful and not toxic. His ban was not for cheating. I'll let him say why if he feels like it.
I for one am sad to hear this even though Kodi has wrecked me on more than one occasion.
Yeah, I'm totally sure that any action was taken because he was caught being too cool and giving away free gold to orphans. amirite?
lordrichter wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »Not sure why anyone would be happy to see this guy go. Kodi is a great player and has done a lot for the pvp community. I have seen him win and I have seen him lose and in both cases he was always respectful and not toxic. His ban was not for cheating. I'll let him say why if he feels like it.
I for one am sad to hear this even though Kodi has wrecked me on more than one occasion.
Yeah, I'm totally sure that any action was taken because he was caught being too cool and giving away free gold to orphans. amirite?
You can check the Twitter page if curious as to why. Surprised me.
Waffennacht wrote: »A lot of streamers are guilty of doing what was supposedly occuring in this case.
But I said it before and I'll say it again, one player doesn't matter
Gamerscape2007 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »A lot of streamers are guilty of doing what was supposedly occuring in this case.
But I said it before and I'll say it again, one player doesn't matter
What you don't get is, Sure, they're just one person. But that one person had a voice. Regardless whatever or not you agree with it. You have to acknowledge the fact that these Eso streamers had a lot of people supporting them. People like Sypher, Fengrush, Or even Kodi, had rolemodels that looked up to them. Whatever problem they had, The people who looked up to them will help voice that streamer's concern. And you have to realize that they contribute a lot for this game. Hell, If it wasn't for Fengrush beating that AOE Cap horse to no end, we wouldn't have gotten it in the first place.
Now look, Barely any of the well known streamers are playing eso now. Sypher just recently moved on from eso to focus on Fortnite now. Fengrush, I mean sure, he still plays, but not as often as he used to anymore. Even Deltia eventually reached his limit and focused away from eso to better his life. He's back now, sure. But for how much longer?
These voices are just vanishing, and it's because of the questionably poor choices Zos had made over the years. And once every streamer/youtuber is gone, we're all headless chickens roaming around hoping someone can help us voice our concern.
Gamerscape2007 wrote: »And once every streamer/youtuber is gone, we're all headless chickens roaming around hoping someone can help us voice our concern.
Waffennacht wrote: »A lot of streamers are guilty of doing what was supposedly occuring in this case.
But I said it before and I'll say it again, one player doesn't matter
Gamerscape2007 wrote: »And once every streamer/youtuber is gone, we're all headless chickens roaming around hoping someone can help us voice our concern.
I've been here for over 4 years and not once have i thought to myself:
"Self, i really wish there was a streamer that could voice my concerns for me!"
Not sure why anyone would be happy to see this guy go. Kodi is a great player and has done a lot for the pvp community. I have seen him win and I have seen him lose and in both cases he was always respectful and not toxic. His ban was not for cheating. I'll let him say why if he feels like it.
I for one am sad to hear this even though Kodi has wrecked me on more than one occasion.
Gamerscape2007 wrote: »Hell, If it wasn't for Fengrush beating that AOE Cap horse to no end, we wouldn't have gotten it in the first place.
Gamerscape2007 wrote: »And once every streamer/youtuber is gone, we're all headless chickens roaming around hoping someone can help us voice our concern.
I've been here for over 4 years and not once have i thought to myself:
"Self, i really wish there was a streamer that could voice my concerns for me!"
Waffennacht wrote: »Gamerscape2007 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »A lot of streamers are guilty of doing what was supposedly occuring in this case.
But I said it before and I'll say it again, one player doesn't matter
What you don't get is, Sure, they're just one person. But that one person had a voice. Regardless whatever or not you agree with it. You have to acknowledge the fact that these Eso streamers had a lot of people supporting them. People like Sypher, Fengrush, Or even Kodi, had rolemodels that looked up to them. Whatever problem they had, The people who looked up to them will help voice that streamer's concern. And you have to realize that they contribute a lot for this game. Hell, If it wasn't for Fengrush beating that AOE Cap horse to no end, we wouldn't have gotten it in the first place.
Now look, Barely any of the well known streamers are playing eso now. Sypher just recently moved on from eso to focus on Fortnite now. Fengrush, I mean sure, he still plays, but not as often as he used to anymore. Even Deltia eventually reached his limit and focused away from eso to better his life. He's back now, sure. But for how much longer?
These voices are just vanishing, and it's because of the questionably poor choices Zos had made over the years. And once every streamer/youtuber is gone, we're all headless chickens roaming around hoping someone can help us voice our concern.
I don't like streamers, I have had direct arguments with Fengrush. I hate how they pander superiority and there's always a crowd to buy into it.
I respect alcast for example, but I wouldn't say he's better than the majority of the players I know. This "Lord" stuff has to go.
So, no, I don't feel like any one player matters more than any other. Especially when it comes to enforcing rules equally
Waffennacht wrote: »Gamerscape2007 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »A lot of streamers are guilty of doing what was supposedly occuring in this case.
But I said it before and I'll say it again, one player doesn't matter
What you don't get is, Sure, they're just one person. But that one person had a voice. Regardless whatever or not you agree with it. You have to acknowledge the fact that these Eso streamers had a lot of people supporting them. People like Sypher, Fengrush, Or even Kodi, had rolemodels that looked up to them. Whatever problem they had, The people who looked up to them will help voice that streamer's concern. And you have to realize that they contribute a lot for this game. Hell, If it wasn't for Fengrush beating that AOE Cap horse to no end, we wouldn't have gotten it in the first place.
Now look, Barely any of the well known streamers are playing eso now. Sypher just recently moved on from eso to focus on Fortnite now. Fengrush, I mean sure, he still plays, but not as often as he used to anymore. Even Deltia eventually reached his limit and focused away from eso to better his life. He's back now, sure. But for how much longer?
These voices are just vanishing, and it's because of the questionably poor choices Zos had made over the years. And once every streamer/youtuber is gone, we're all headless chickens roaming around hoping someone can help us voice our concern.
I don't like streamers, I have had direct arguments with Fengrush. I hate how they pander superiority and there's always a crowd to buy into it.
I respect alcast for example, but I wouldn't say he's better than the majority of the players I know. This "Lord" stuff has to go.
So, no, I don't feel like any one player matters more than any other. Especially when it comes to enforcing rules equally
VaranisArano wrote: »If the ESO streamers that are so influential actually care about the game and want to make a difference, I expect them to actually respect the rule of the game. Like any other players, they suffer the consequences of breaking the rules.
Its like any celebrity endorsement. The value of their endorsement depends on their skill AND keeping their nose clean.
The community is stronger when they respect the game they play.
Gamerscape2007 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »If the ESO streamers that are so influential actually care about the game and want to make a difference, I expect them to actually respect the rule of the game. Like any other players, they suffer the consequences of breaking the rules.
Its like any celebrity endorsement. The value of their endorsement depends on their skill AND keeping their nose clean.
The community is stronger when they respect the game they play.
lmao. Should I remind you the time the devs of this game unbanned people who were using cheat engine at the time? If they can't perma ban cheater, then why should I respect their rules?
VaranisArano wrote: »Gamerscape2007 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »If the ESO streamers that are so influential actually care about the game and want to make a difference, I expect them to actually respect the rule of the game. Like any other players, they suffer the consequences of breaking the rules.
Its like any celebrity endorsement. The value of their endorsement depends on their skill AND keeping their nose clean.
The community is stronger when they respect the game they play.
lmao. Should I remind you the time the devs of this game unbanned people who were using cheat engine at the time? If they can't perma ban cheater, then why should I respect their rules?
Apply that logic to your local police and see how far that takes you. You don't get to pick and choose which rules you'll respect. That leads to things like trials groups cheesing the final fight of ZOS' brand new trials and expecting a slap on the wrist.
ZOS gets to determine their own enforcement, just like the policeman you pass while speeding gets to decide if you going 5 miles over is going to result in you getting pulled over. You don't get to be like "I get to decide which rules I respect!" as a defense as a player of the game or as a driver.
I'm not looking to draw this analogy out any further. I understand that you don't respect ZOS because of their uneven enforcement, but how does that exempt you from following rules? For that matter, how does that exempt influential streamers from following the rules?
Merlin13KAGL wrote: »And remember when that streamer got banned for being a jackass and thinking they were exempt from the rules?
You bet, Gamerscape, "Game's dying, everyone's leaving, and ZoS will have to close their front doors..."
*Soon (TM)*
He screwed up, blatantly and purposefully, and the consequence is being paid.
Move on...or don't. Either way, no one cares.DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »#FREEKODI
EDIT: If you really stand with you're boy, quit the game and the forums. Put your money where you mouth is.
VaranisArano wrote: »Gamerscape2007 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »If the ESO streamers that are so influential actually care about the game and want to make a difference, I expect them to actually respect the rule of the game. Like any other players, they suffer the consequences of breaking the rules.
Its like any celebrity endorsement. The value of their endorsement depends on their skill AND keeping their nose clean.
The community is stronger when they respect the game they play.
lmao. Should I remind you the time the devs of this game unbanned people who were using cheat engine at the time? If they can't perma ban cheater, then why should I respect their rules?
Apply that logic to your local police and see how far that takes you. You don't get to pick and choose which rules you'll respect. That leads to things like trials groups cheesing the final fight of ZOS' brand new trials and expecting a slap on the wrist.
ZOS gets to determine their own enforcement, just like the policeman you pass while speeding gets to decide if you going 5 miles over is going to result in you getting pulled over. You don't get to be like "I get to decide which rules I respect!" as a defense as a player of the game or as a driver.
I'm not looking to draw this analogy out any further. I understand that you don't respect ZOS because of their uneven enforcement, but how does that exempt you from following rules? For that matter, how does that exempt influential streamers from following the rules?
I would have just said that legal document you sign before playing eso thinks otherwise lol.