Sotha Sil 1 NA PC Thread 1

NBrookus

Rickter wrote: »

last night was so zergy from all sides that the server literally crashed briefly.

The servers crashed everywhere, including in PVE.

As for what the dethrone in Vivec wa slike last night, let me fire up PowerPoint...

jameslogan

Kartalin wrote: »

Random cross faction selfies for the win

I tried to do this once because I heard it was fun and TM lovingly shared 7 ults with me.

Minno

Rickter wrote: »

Sotha was yellow prior to 10PM est. You guys know I'm an opponent of gate camping but last night was so zergy from all sides that the server literally crashed briefly.

my 5 man tried taking Brindle and we were instantly jumped by 9+ AD.

Northern cyro was even worse, the EP emp-assisted push on Aleswell was a slide show of 450+ping and 10fps.

like, I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation they earned, but at least try to be honest, Sotha Sil is Trueflame 2.0

I cant even imagine what Vivec is like. . .

Vivec is zergy, with EP at pop lock the entire day. We could use more DC during the day and to help support the Aussies.

Artis

Rickter wrote: »

Oh, no one is saying DC didnt have a zerg. I havent seen that many DC in a long time.

I'm saying everyone was like that. Like there were zergs on all three factions. and its like every man for himself now. its kinda sad

I'm on no one's side and don't wanna fight or anything, but just want to ask you a couple things after reading the thread.

1) Do you see how most guilds don't really invite everyone. And people who want to start pugs don't really get many players - because those players want to join already big groups (like guilds that do invite pugs). And again, some people (I'd even say most) want to relax and play the game and they can stay on crown and such, but a lot of groups require TS. Basically, what I'm getting at is that there's not much choice other than every man for himself if you don't have a guild. I tried both - looking for group to join and starting a group and looking for people to run with me. Failed in both cases. The again, I tried it long time ago, in winter maybe, and that's how things were back then. Could try it now and report my findings if you want

2) About pushing to the gates. Let's imagine one of the alliances is objectively stronger at the moment (has more people or better people) or other alliances are already pushed to the gates when (abstract) I login. Am I not supposed to pvp? I mean, if they are pushed to the gates - that's where pvp will be happening, right? So of course I'll go and fight there. And that's the thoughts of every PvPer, I imagine.

Don't take it as attacking you or anyone. Just a question.

Dutchessx

Congrats @Prince_of_all_Pugs on your emperorship last yesterday... it was a good fight. I wish I could have been on for the dethrone but DC waited until after we logged.

Phreeki

Dutchessx wrote: »

Congrats @Prince_of_all_Pugs on your emperorship last yesterday... it was a good fight. I wish I could have been on for the dethrone but DC waited until after we logged.

But of course Scrub Noris and the LoM waited untill they had 4 to 1 odds. Thats what they do.

Kartalin

jameslogan wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Random cross faction selfies for the win

I tried to do this once because I heard it was fun and TM lovingly shared 7 ults with me.

The trick is whispering the person first so you can meet up away from their less understanding friends

NBrookus

Artis wrote: »

2) About pushing to the gates. Let's imagine one of the alliances is objectively stronger at the moment (has more people or better people) or other alliances are already pushed to the gates when (abstract) I login. Am I not supposed to pvp? I mean, if they are pushed to the gates - that's where pvp will be happening, right? So of course I'll go and fight there. And that's the thoughts of every PvPer, I imagine.

Don't take it as attacking you or anyone. Just a question.

You can:
1) Go to another campaign
2) Go to IC
3) Duels in Rwal'kha, etc.
4) Queue for battlegrounds
5) Log on to an alt on another faction or, hey, switch permanently (more or less) to another faction

^Five PvP options that don't include making it harder to find PvP in the future on your preferred campaign. Because if you keep pushing a faction to their gates, they leave and then that's not where pvp is happening either.

Put the shoe on the other foot: if you log in and go take a resource at one of your gate keeps, and a full raid shows up to kill you before you can even flip the flag... how many times will you try? What happens to your desire to play when you port in to Cyrodiil and the emperor is firing cold fire into your spawn points along with a half raid of buddies making sure no one can leave? Or full faction stack thinks it's funny to farm a scroll your spawn point?

These are not hypothetical, abstract scenarios. I've seen all 3 happen.

Kartalin

But then I went to Almalexia yesterday and no one wanted to fight unless they outnumbered you 8 to 1. EP had emp and I had people running away from 1v1s with me. Did manage to win the 1v1s I fought and a 2v1 against me, but then they bring a massive group where I have no chance to win. The campaign then devolved to capping resources undefended and re-capping resources undefended and it was somehow actually worse than being zerged by DC in Sotha.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

Rickter wrote: »

Sotha was yellow prior to 10PM est. You guys know I'm an opponent of gate camping but last night was so zergy from all sides that the server literally crashed briefly.

my 5 man tried taking Brindle and we were instantly jumped by 9+ AD.

Northern cyro was even worse, the EP emp-assisted push on Aleswell was a slide show of 450+ping and 10fps.

like, I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation they earned, but at least try to be honest, Sotha Sil is Trueflame 2.0

I cant even imagine what Vivec is like. . .

haha "earned" is a strong word, If your not a youtuber or a streamer and you are dc you havent earned NOTHING. the fear and respect that DC has earned has come from the streamers and youtubers who carry the DC faction. Everyone else on DC is just walking AP, you can ask any AD or EP they will tell you same thing. Ill even go as far to say that if your not a youtuber or a streamer, you are not a real dc. So im gonna correct this comment for you. "I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation that our streamers and youtubers have given to us, all we are without them is BLUE AP.

rfennell_ESO

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Sotha was yellow prior to 10PM est. You guys know I'm an opponent of gate camping but last night was so zergy from all sides that the server literally crashed briefly.

my 5 man tried taking Brindle and we were instantly jumped by 9+ AD.

Northern cyro was even worse, the EP emp-assisted push on Aleswell was a slide show of 450+ping and 10fps.

like, I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation they earned, but at least try to be honest, Sotha Sil is Trueflame 2.0

I cant even imagine what Vivec is like. . .

haha "earned" is a strong word, If your not a youtuber or a streamer and you are dc you havent earned NOTHING. the fear and respect that DC has earned has come from the streamers and youtubers who carry the DC faction. Everyone else on DC is just walking AP, you can ask any AD or EP they will tell you same thing. Ill even go as far to say that if your not a youtuber or a streamer, you are not a real dc. So im gonna correct this comment for you. "I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation that our streamers and youtubers have given to us, all we are without them is BLUE AP.

Of course the simple fact is that the streaming clowns are server hoppers that only (for the most part) go where they have emp and as many scrolls and homekeep bonuses as possible.

It's certainly not the 1vX crowd that makes those bonuses (which are quite large on non cp proportionately) possible.

Nearly all the time the streamers don't do anything but farm ap and try to find weak groups to 1vx, they certainly don't take keeps or scrolls or defend (unless you consider a rock, brindge or tree defendable, I guess).

Rickter

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

haha "earned" is a strong word, If your not a youtuber or a streamer and you are dc you havent earned NOTHING. the fear and respect that DC has earned has come from the streamers and youtubers who carry the DC faction. Everyone else on DC is just walking AP, you can ask any AD or EP they will tell you same thing. Ill even go as far to say that if your not a youtuber or a streamer, you are not a real dc. So im gonna correct this comment for you. "I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation that our streamers and youtubers have given to us, all we are without them is BLUE AP.

lol. thanks man, i needed that. too bad DC streamers are fair weathered tool bags that are so caught up in their tv persona to know what reality is versus video game land. Maybe i can quit the game and try to drag as many ESO players with me just so i can pretend Paragon is so awesome, only to come back to the game and drink the ZOS kool aid, then quit AGAIN so i can pretend For Honor is the next best thing even though 95% of the For Honor player base has boycotted the game due to Ubisoft's deafeningly poor handling of the entire game, and then come back to ESO and act like nothing ever happened because i can because the players will stroke me no matter what happens or what I say to people.

Remorseless

Haha

Raknosh

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Sotha was yellow prior to 10PM est. You guys know I'm an opponent of gate camping but last night was so zergy from all sides that the server literally crashed briefly.

my 5 man tried taking Brindle and we were instantly jumped by 9+ AD.

Northern cyro was even worse, the EP emp-assisted push on Aleswell was a slide show of 450+ping and 10fps.

like, I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation they earned, but at least try to be honest, Sotha Sil is Trueflame 2.0

I cant even imagine what Vivec is like. . .

haha "earned" is a strong word, If your not a youtuber or a streamer and you are dc you havent earned NOTHING. the fear and respect that DC has earned has come from the streamers and youtubers who carry the DC faction. Everyone else on DC is just walking AP, you can ask any AD or EP they will tell you same thing. Ill even go as far to say that if your not a youtuber or a streamer, you are not a real dc. So im gonna correct this comment for you. "I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation that our streamers and youtubers have given to us, all we are without them is BLUE AP.

Plz generalize moar!

Jamini

Rickter wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

haha "earned" is a strong word, If your not a youtuber or a streamer and you are dc you havent earned NOTHING. the fear and respect that DC has earned has come from the streamers and youtubers who carry the DC faction. Everyone else on DC is just walking AP, you can ask any AD or EP they will tell you same thing. Ill even go as far to say that if your not a youtuber or a streamer, you are not a real dc. So im gonna correct this comment for you. "I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation that our streamers and youtubers have given to us, all we are without them is BLUE AP.

lol. thanks man, i needed that. too bad DC streamers are fair weathered tool bags that are so caught up in their tv persona to know what reality is versus video game land. Maybe i can quit the game and try to drag as many ESO players with me just so i can pretend Paragon is so awesome, only to come back to the game and drink the ZOS kool aid, then quit AGAIN so i can pretend For Honor is the next best thing even though 95% of the For Honor player base has boycotted the game due to Ubisoft's deafeningly poor handling of the entire game, and then come back to ESO and act like nothing ever happened because i can because the players will stroke me no matter what happens or what I say to people.

Ouch, that burn. I can feel it from here.

Thelon

Malibulove

I can say from experience the multitude of PMs you get calling you slurs from all the obnoxious viewers is worse than having to fight streamers.

Artis

NBrookus wrote: »

Artis wrote: »

2) About pushing to the gates. Let's imagine one of the alliances is objectively stronger at the moment (has more people or better people) or other alliances are already pushed to the gates when (abstract) I login. Am I not supposed to pvp? I mean, if they are pushed to the gates - that's where pvp will be happening, right? So of course I'll go and fight there. And that's the thoughts of every PvPer, I imagine.

Don't take it as attacking you or anyone. Just a question.

You can:
1) Go to another campaign
2) Go to IC
3) Duels in Rwal'kha, etc.
4) Queue for battlegrounds
5) Log on to an alt on another faction or, hey, switch permanently (more or less) to another faction

^Five PvP options that don't include making it harder to find PvP in the future on your preferred campaign. Because if you keep pushing a faction to their gates, they leave and then that's not where pvp is happening either.

Put the shoe on the other foot: if you log in and go take a resource at one of your gate keeps, and a full raid shows up to kill you before you can even flip the flag... how many times will you try? What happens to your desire to play when you port in to Cyrodiil and the emperor is firing cold fire into your spawn points along with a half raid of buddies making sure no one can leave? Or full faction stack thinks it's funny to farm a scroll your spawn point?

These are not hypothetical, abstract scenarios. I've seen all 3 happen.

1. I only have 1 home campaign and playing in another won't add to my rewards.
2. What if there's less PvP in IC atm. Like it's dead, because all enemies are pushed to the gates.
3. Duels is VERY different pvp. Not everyone is into that.
4. Yes, now it's an option. But again, I could want something with siege and bigger scale.
5. Why would I switch permanently to another faction? Sorry, that just makes no sense. That would mean making a whole new character and basically ditching all the progress made. Playing on an alt for a bit is viable if I'm not working on PvP ranks on a certain character... then it's not an option either.

^Only 1 pvp option and it only works if I look specifically for small scale. AND am ready to deal with all distractions like grabbing flags and such. Not to mention that I'm getting VERY little AP for bgs. And still, this option only appeared in Morrowind, but I see people whining about fighting at the gates since 2014.

Yes, that doesn't found. But then there are five entire options for me to do, right? /s If they are good enough for those who pushed others to the gates, then they are good enough for those who were pushed, aren't they?

But as expected, the very person who was saying that and whom I asked, had nothing to reply.. Because, well, it's not something you can expect from anyone.

Nihang

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Sotha was yellow prior to 10PM est. You guys know I'm an opponent of gate camping but last night was so zergy from all sides that the server literally crashed briefly.

my 5 man tried taking Brindle and we were instantly jumped by 9+ AD.

Northern cyro was even worse, the EP emp-assisted push on Aleswell was a slide show of 450+ping and 10fps.

like, I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation they earned, but at least try to be honest, Sotha Sil is Trueflame 2.0

I cant even imagine what Vivec is like. . .

haha "earned" is a strong word, If your not a youtuber or a streamer and you are dc you havent earned NOTHING. the fear and respect that DC has earned has come from the streamers and youtubers who carry the DC faction. Everyone else on DC is just walking AP, you can ask any AD or EP they will tell you same thing. Ill even go as far to say that if your not a youtuber or a streamer, you are not a real dc. So im gonna correct this comment for you. "I know right now DC is easy to demonize due to the reputation that our streamers and youtubers have given to us, all we are without them is BLUE AP.

are you being serious?

NBrookus

Artis wrote: »

But as expected, the very person who was saying that and whom I asked, had nothing to reply.. Because, well, it's not something you can expect from anyone.

It's something I expect from myself. I don't find demoralizing and discouraging the people I rely on have fun to be productive or entertaining. Because there's no pvp without an enemy, and no good pvp without a worthy enemy. Or frenemy, as it is sometimes.

Mihael

Artis wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Oh, no one is saying DC didnt have a zerg. I havent seen that many DC in a long time.

I'm saying everyone was like that. Like there were zergs on all three factions. and its like every man for himself now. its kinda sad

I'm on no one's side and don't wanna fight or anything, but just want to ask you a couple things after reading the thread.

1) Do you see how most guilds don't really invite everyone. And people who want to start pugs don't really get many players - because those players want to join already big groups (like guilds that do invite pugs). And again, some people (I'd even say most) want to relax and play the game and they can stay on crown and such, but a lot of groups require TS. Basically, what I'm getting at is that there's not much choice other than every man for himself if you don't have a guild. I tried both - looking for group to join and starting a group and looking for people to run with me. Failed in both cases. The again, I tried it long time ago, in winter maybe, and that's how things were back then. Could try it now and report my findings if you want

2) About pushing to the gates. Let's imagine one of the alliances is objectively stronger at the moment (has more people or better people) or other alliances are already pushed to the gates when (abstract) I login. Am I not supposed to pvp? I mean, if they are pushed to the gates - that's where pvp will be happening, right? So of course I'll go and fight there. And that's the thoughts of every PvPer, I imagine.

Don't take it as attacking you or anyone. Just a question.

If you go to the gates "looking for pvp" then you really are just a zerglong because the only fights you are gonna find are 10v1s and such because if not the other faction would have pushed out

HiImRex

Next time you witness your ball zerg take a keep after an hour of failed sieging remember it's because we forced a 25 man defense force to a worthless lumber mill with 3 people, a camp, and a dozen strategic tea bags.

#gratitude

Rickter

@Artis i'll answer your questions. Lol. I wasnt ignoring you. I work in IT and i was swamped with work due to Wannacry ransomware. I had time to talk a bunch of snarky crap about streamers but not the time for the indepth response i wanted to give you. Stay tuned.

Rickter

Artis wrote: »

I'm on no one's side and don't wanna fight or anything, but just want to ask you a couple things after reading the thread.

1) Do you see how most guilds don't really invite everyone. And people who want to start pugs don't really get many players - because those players want to join already big groups (like guilds that do invite pugs). And again, some people (I'd even say most) want to relax and play the game and they can stay on crown and such, but a lot of groups require TS. Basically, what I'm getting at is that there's not much choice other than every man for himself if you don't have a guild. I tried both - looking for group to join and starting a group and looking for people to run with me. Failed in both cases. The again, I tried it long time ago, in winter maybe, and that's how things were back then. Could try it now and report my findings if you want

Ok so I will have to agree with this one. My traditional auotinvite string is "rick roll" (because my name is rickter and you know, rick roll is a meme. . .yeeeaaaahh. . .) and I have thrown out in zone many times "type rick roll if looking for a group" if i feel liek the faction is floundering without direction and we are losing keeps in the matter of minutes. I seldomly get any bites. It's almost insane. There are people literally asking for a group but ignoring my offer. I attribute that to maybe people aren't as familiar with me and thats fine, I wouldnt join someone's group that I havent really heard of necessarily. So recently, I've resorted to simply typing the instructions out in zone chat and people actually listen. It was a good feeling. But thats ten times more work. trying to direct a defense or a push through text is draining to say the least.

In any case, yes people tend to gravitate towards zerg balls BUT this is because like you said, they are essentially lazy. Now i know you didnt say the word "lazy" but thats what it is. You get home from work, youre tired, you just want to kick back and casually pvp you dont want to think about your every move etc, I know the feeling. But its lazy. for whatever reason, its simply laziness. And thats not meant entirely in a negative connotation, so please dont take it that way.

I lead groups. period. whether its 2 or 10 i pull from my guild and occasionally open that up to pugs. I try to match fighters with my group size. If its just 3, I go to the towns or outside keeps, if i have more, i push inner keep objectives. Those decisions come easy for me but i've been doing this for a long time. I understand this isnt an option for everyone but you have to take it upon yourself to find a group/guild that fits your needs.

Artis wrote: »

2) About pushing to the gates. Let's imagine one of the alliances is objectively stronger at the moment (has more people or better people) or other alliances are already pushed to the gates when (abstract) I login. Am I not supposed to pvp? I mean, if they are pushed to the gates - that's where pvp will be happening, right? So of course I'll go and fight there. And that's the thoughts of every PvPer, I imagine.

Don't take it as attacking you or anyone. Just a question.

Alright this is where I have to disagree with you. When i log on and see my faction has taken the map, no, I do not feel inclined to go to the gates simply because "thats where the pvp is". in a campaign overrun like that, you will get more ap from BGs than you will 10v1ing the guy at their gate keep resource. "change starts with you." right? isnt that the saying? if you see your faction pushing gate keeps dont participate. Vocalize something if you want but dont participate. I HATE proc sets. I know they will be nerfed very soon. I do NOT use them. I put my money where my mouth is and you will not see me wearing cheese proc sets. this is an example. if you see your faction pushing someone else to the gates, walk the other way. It's as simple as that.

Humphie

I would like to thank every DC participating at this moment in 1. defending enemy trikeeps with 10x the numbers and 2. zerging down every attempt of EP and AD to get something back. Well done....PvP is officially dead atm.

*claps hands*

[Edit for naming and shaming]

Kartalin

Aww, poor widdle DC zerglords, couldn't take emp during prime time so they take out their frustrations pvdooring low pop opponents.

Artis

NBrookus wrote: »

Artis wrote: »

But as expected, the very person who was saying that and whom I asked, had nothing to reply.. Because, well, it's not something you can expect from anyone.

It's something I expect from myself. I don't find demoralizing and discouraging the people I rely on have fun to be productive or entertaining. Because there's no pvp without an enemy, and no good pvp without a worthy enemy. Or frenemy, as it is sometimes.

Makes sense. And I probably would do the same. What I'm saying is that I understand why others probably wouldn't do it.

Rickter wrote: »

Artis wrote: »

I'm on no one's side and don't wanna fight or anything, but just want to ask you a couple things after reading the thread.

1) Do you see how most guilds don't really invite everyone. And people who want to start pugs don't really get many players - because those players want to join already big groups (like guilds that do invite pugs). And again, some people (I'd even say most) want to relax and play the game and they can stay on crown and such, but a lot of groups require TS. Basically, what I'm getting at is that there's not much choice other than every man for himself if you don't have a guild. I tried both - looking for group to join and starting a group and looking for people to run with me. Failed in both cases. The again, I tried it long time ago, in winter maybe, and that's how things were back then. Could try it now and report my findings if you want

Ok so I will have to agree with this one. My traditional auotinvite string is "rick roll" (because my name is rickter and you know, rick roll is a meme. . .yeeeaaaahh. . .) and I have thrown out in zone many times "type rick roll if looking for a group" if i feel liek the faction is floundering without direction and we are losing keeps in the matter of minutes. I seldomly get any bites. It's almost insane. There are people literally asking for a group but ignoring my offer. I attribute that to maybe people aren't as familiar with me and thats fine, I wouldnt join someone's group that I havent really heard of necessarily. So recently, I've resorted to simply typing the instructions out in zone chat and people actually listen. It was a good feeling. But thats ten times more work. trying to direct a defense or a push through text is draining to say the least.

In any case, yes people tend to gravitate towards zerg balls BUT this is because like you said, they are essentially lazy. Now i know you didnt say the word "lazy" but thats what it is. You get home from work, youre tired, you just want to kick back and casually pvp you dont want to think about your every move etc, I know the feeling. But its lazy. for whatever reason, its simply laziness. And thats not meant entirely in a negative connotation, so please dont take it that way.

I lead groups. period. whether its 2 or 10 i pull from my guild and occasionally open that up to pugs. I try to match fighters with my group size. If its just 3, I go to the towns or outside keeps, if i have more, i push inner keep objectives. Those decisions come easy for me but i've been doing this for a long time. I understand this isnt an option for everyone but you have to take it upon yourself to find a group/guild that fits your needs.

Artis wrote: »

2) About pushing to the gates. Let's imagine one of the alliances is objectively stronger at the moment (has more people or better people) or other alliances are already pushed to the gates when (abstract) I login. Am I not supposed to pvp? I mean, if they are pushed to the gates - that's where pvp will be happening, right? So of course I'll go and fight there. And that's the thoughts of every PvPer, I imagine.

Don't take it as attacking you or anyone. Just a question.

Alright this is where I have to disagree with you. When i log on and see my faction has taken the map, no, I do not feel inclined to go to the gates simply because "thats where the pvp is". in a campaign overrun like that, you will get more ap from BGs than you will 10v1ing the guy at their gate keep resource. "change starts with you." right? isnt that the saying? if you see your faction pushing gate keeps dont participate. Vocalize something if you want but dont participate. I HATE proc sets. I know they will be nerfed very soon. I do NOT use them. I put my money where my mouth is and you will not see me wearing cheese proc sets. this is an example. if you see your faction pushing someone else to the gates, walk the other way. It's as simple as that.

1. ah seee? I'm glad I'm not the only one, I would think something is wrong with me And yes I know it's up to a person to find a group. But that's the problem - it's not as easy. Lazy or not. I had this period where I was pvping pretty often and could never find a group or people to join me. Maybe a couple people would join, but then they would leave seeing it's just a few of us.

2. I don't know the feeling Usually I was the one pushed to the gate XD
But ok, I see your point now. It's about the way you think things should be and self-control. Makes sense. But you do see that some people, especially not very experienced, probably would still go to the gates.

gameswithaspoon

Congratulations to AD's Emperor King Ignition yesterday! It's his first Emperor and we are really proud about how he's stepped up and learned so much, leading pug groups and getting involved in the larger strategy of an emp push. Thanks to all the other AD that helped out and we hoped you had just as much fun getting the emp and then that last siege at Allessia. We're exhausted and headed to bed but we'll be back soon.

Kita

I don't know why... my forum post got deleted.. maybe it was too much glory so I will post it here instead...
maybe DC had too much salt and decided to report it? I don't see why, its just roleplay


Tonight is the night that salt mining single handedly not only fend off a 10~ish organized (decent) dc group but also 20+ EP pugs at chalman. 6 strong legendary Salt Mining Soldiers. They have fought brave and tiring for countless waves, repairing walls, wiping in players and players upon hordes inside the walls of chalman keep. As the intimidating 6 man group fends off not only the EP and DC zergs and repairs the ruined walls, a slight slimmer of hope was shown! But! to only avail that light would soon be diminished... as the entire army of the Daggerfall Coveneant that comes out during the night, we call these.. creatures of the night who have summer break now

The 6 man group of Salt Mining stood their grounds, never faltering, never surrendering, never turning back. They knew what they were facing, they embraced it. The legendary group knew that death was inevitable against the 50+ group of army standing on the other side of the walls like ravage beasts. It was then, one of the group members pleaded zone chat that we gather our might and push back these ravage night cappers... Teritary Meat came to answer the call. Together we stand, Together we fight, Together we unite, Together we push back the dragonknight daniel's army! Upon the first walls breaking they were at first pushed back to no avail.. then came the strategy of pinching with both TM and SMI cooperating. Salt mining loops around and stands ground on the keeps walls against countless hordes! TM pushes and sandwiches those unfortunate to be on the ground.

Together they have fought tirelessly, smart and with determination. As the Aldmeri Dominion witnesses the Best of the best fight against the horror that they can not face alone... their wits have been united and all the soldiers (pugs) of AD slowly but surely came for reinforcements and started to siege upon thy massive ball of army.
After a long and tiring 53 minute fight, siege, repairing, wiping, strategizing, reinforcing and holding, the long battle of Chalman Keep was to come to an end!

Let this night be known the night that dragonknight's daniels night capping, all Daggerfall covenant guilds, Legion of Mordor, Hell and many more that they are nothing but feeble burdens upon the mighty hand of Salt Mining Incorporated and the mighty shield of Teritary Meat! And most of all, the strength and unity of the Aldmeri Dominion

Let these names go not in vein, but down the walls of honor for history.

Kita, Apathy, Miihael, Scarr The Outcast , Static Wave, Mikeytutu

And all of TM, sorry I don't know you guys personally namewise but you guys were good!


TL;DR

When DC decides to ball zerg nightcap again but AD small groups completely annihilate their entire faction for hours.
Where is Fengrush? this current DC emperor is bringing shame to your covenant!

Rickter

Time for some perspective: You guys talk about @CN_Daniel more than Fengrush has ever been mentioned. Fengrush is dethroned. He wont even come onto Daniel's turf. Every single post for the last 3 pages has mentioned Daniel and his mighty army. His ruthless tactics has achieved the goal: burn his memory into the weak minds of his adversaries. We may not all agree on his tactics but he hs single handedly achieved what no other has: complete and utter infamy and renown. He is the bane of every thing not daggerfall. He has literally caused the other two factions to band together against him and he has, as a fact, made members of yhe other faction literally consider quitting the game. His sheer might is terrible indeed.

Congrats on the AD emperor. May the accomplishment fuel you in the dark days to come.