Sotha Sil 1 NA PC Thread 1

Mihael

Rickter wrote: »

Time for some perspective: You guys talk about @CN_Daniel more than Fengrush has ever been mentioned. Fengrush is dethroned. He wont even come onto Daniel's turf. Every single post for the last 3 pages has mentioned Daniel and his mighty army. His ruthless tactics has achieved the goal: burn his memory into the weak minds of his adversaries. We may not all agree on his tactics but he hs single handedly achieved what no other has: complete and utter infamy and renown. He is the bane of every thing not daggerfall. He has literally caused the other two factions to band together against him and he has, as a fact, made members of yhe other faction literally consider quitting the game. His sheer might is terrible indeed.

Congrats on the AD emperor. May the accomplishment fuel you in the dark days to come.

Call fengrush what you want but at least he had the guts to go for emp during prime time not wait till everyone was sleeping, last night it was 4am and dk Daniel wasn't doing s**t, i wake up a 10 am and the whole map is blue lol, make it sound as cool as you want but at the end of the day he is no better than lodg, just a bunch of night cappers because when they have to fight real players not even numbers will save them

Rickter

Fengrush also had a legion of twitch follower subscribing "big tippers" flocking to his beck and call. Daniel doesnt stream. He doesnt get his name out there by dancing like a monkey in front of a camera. Everything you know about him is whats happening in the gme and whether you or i like it or not, he has impacted a 30 day campaign with the likes of which we havent seen since murder thumbs.

Mihael

Rickter wrote: »

Fengrush also had a legion of twitch follower subscribing "big tippers" flocking to his beck and call. Daniel doesnt stream. He doesnt get his name out there by dancing like a monkey in front of a camera. Everything you know about him is whats happening in the gme and whether you or i like it or not, he has impacted a 30 day campaign with the likes of which we havent seen since murder thumbs.

Like I said before he gets on when everyone sleeps and gets emp, then he zergs the map so that his emp time last a bit longer, it's not some great feat that only a few are capable of any zergling can siege a keep undefended

PenguinInACan

Rickter wrote: »

Fengrush also had a legion of twitch follower subscribing "big tippers" flocking to his beck and call. Daniel doesnt stream. He doesnt get his name out there by dancing like a monkey in front of a camera. Everything you know about him is whats happening in the gme and whether you or i like it or not, he has impacted a 30 day campaign with the likes of which we havent seen since murder thumbs.

I wouldn't really go that far....at least back then Murder actually made a difference on the field.

Maikon

Isan't DC tired of emp'ing that worthless trash DK? He's been emp what, 25 times in a row now? All he does is hide behind siege and walls. He can't even 1v1 anyone even with the buffs. ***, if you're gonna constantly zerg down the server, at least emp someone worth fighting.

gabriebe

Can EP and AD just get their *** together and do a proper de-emp attempt? We are taking roots at Ash. I'm kind of new to the vet campaigns, but if the emp is just as trash as you say he is, this should be cake for you guys...

Maikon

gabriebe wrote: »

Can EP and AD just get their *** together and do a proper de-emp attempt? We are taking roots at Ash. I'm kind of new to the vet campaigns, but if the emp is just as trash as you say he is, this should be cake for you guys...

Even if we de-emp him, he'll just zerg down the server again and get emp in a couple hours, then gate/base camp as usual with the zerg.

A lot of people just don't care anymore to put in the effort.

EdmundTowers

Thanks AD for helping emp King Ignition on Saturday. We recovered from DK *** gate keep camping and zerging us down all morning and all day long. Once we got some pop we dethroned and emp'd in the proudest way possible, during prime time and with even pop numbers:





That Chal defense right after was epic. When you guys logged, we tried to hold onto emp from the DC nightcap crew, but there's only so much 3 sleep deprived IOTE players + a handful of pugs can do vs 30-40 DC at 3am. After we wiped them like 3 times at Alessia, they just used half their numbers to keep us holed in at Alessia while the rest back capped all the other keeps on the map, then stacked Alessia flags while AD was split with defending scroll.

Highlight of King Ignition's reign would probably be this fight at Alessia Farm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N4u8NuPfw0

Maikon wrote: »

Isan't DC tired of emp'ing that worthless trash DK? He's been emp what, 25 times in a row now? All he does is hide behind siege and walls. He can't even 1v1 anyone even with the buffs. ***, if you're gonna constantly zerg down the server, at least emp someone worth fighting.

I feel the only thing keeping Sotha Sil alive despite the constant DC nightcaps, gatecamps, and pop lock zegs, is the fact that their emp is pushover. If he were actually good this campaign would be dead. But maybe if he were good, he wouldn't be resorting to such low blow tactics. I've taken to the habit of t'bagging his corpse every time i see it. I don't normally tea bag people, but I've been doing it right in front of his posse. I don't care if they zerg me down as a result. I just want to show them I have no respect for him.

Malibulove

gabriebe wrote: »

Can EP and AD just get their *** together and do a proper de-emp attempt? We are taking roots at Ash. I'm kind of new to the vet campaigns, but if the emp is just as trash as you say he is, this should be cake for you guys...

For some perspective.

2barDC:



PoplockDC:



And that's merely one 2-hour window. The longer DC spends without an advantage the more they lose, the longer DC spends time pop-locked the more they gain. It's simple zerg mechanics at work.

The Emperor himself isn't relevant in it all. In fact having that particular player as Emp hurts DC to an extent because for the most part he runs around with Soul Assault or Shifting Standard and isn't a hyper mobile killing machine. Much of the time he operates almost exclusively within range of friendly siege. He never tears through swaths of open field enemies like Fengrush or Dubzug used to do.

gabriebe

That's actually a decent map for a faction that should be double-teamed since they have emp, even pop and all the scrolls...

Just need to organize your groups to target what strategically makes sense. So far, most of what I see is just people mowing down the next keep down the line. Feel like some organized groups need to play a little bit more creatively.

Maikon

Ohh look, there's 47 DC base camping as we speak, o

gabriebe wrote: »

That's actually a decent map for a faction that should be double-teamed since they have emp, even pop and all the scrolls...

Just need to organize your groups to target what strategically makes sense. So far, most of what I see is just people mowing down the next keep down the line. Feel like some organized groups need to play a little bit more creatively.

Double teamed? It doesn't matter if DC or EP has emp, they will always go team purple against AD.

And just for the record, EP is basically a worthless faction that does nothing, it should just be removed from the campaigns altogether.

DC has emp and all of EP's tri keeps, so what does EP do? They run all the way down and flag AD's tri keeps.... yea, makes sense.

Adenoma

I'm just popping in to say that after fighting the DC emp I was chatting about how it wasn't that bad even though he was Xv1ing me and someone said "oh yeah, he's not that threatening of a stamDK." My response was "WAIT, HE WAS A STAMDK???" TBH, I don't know what the heck he's running and how he thinks it gets work done. I guess I'll just mistform more soulstrikes.

Maikon

And that's merely one 2-hour window. The longer DC spends without an advantage the more they lose, the longer DC spends time pop-locked the more they gain. It's simple zerg mechanics at work.

The Emperor himself isn't relevant in it all. In fact having that particular player as Emp hurts DC to an extent because for the most part he runs around with Soul Assault or Shifting Standard and isn't a hyper mobile killing machine. Much of the time he operates almost exclusively within range of friendly siege. He never tears through swaths of open field enemies like Fengrush or Dubzug used to do.



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Do you see this map? Why the *** would EP be all the way down trying to take fare? Oh yea, they're *** stupid and useless.

wolfwraith37

Maikon wrote: »

Do you see this map? Why the *** would EP be all the way down trying to take fare? Oh yea, they're *** stupid and useless.

By the same token, you could ask why would any AD be up at Arrius. I see a three way battle on that map at Arrius.

Maikon

wolfwraith37 wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Do you see this map? Why the *** would EP be all the way down trying to take fare? Oh yea, they're *** stupid and useless.

By the same token, you could ask why would any AD be up at Arrius. I see a three way battle on that map at Arrius.

This pic was taken by someone else earlier, before rushed our gates and we got BB/BM back. Just using it as reference, since the map looks the same now as it did then.

wolfwraith37

Maikon wrote: »

wolfwraith37 wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Do you see this map? Why the *** would EP be all the way down trying to take fare? Oh yea, they're *** stupid and useless.

By the same token, you could ask why would any AD be up at Arrius. I see a three way battle on that map at Arrius.

This pic was taken by someone else earlier, before rushed our gates and we got BB/BM back. Just using it as reference, since the map looks the same now as it did then.

But as that map shows, occassionally every faction has players where they really shouldn't be. EP isn't the only faction guilty of this.

NBrookus

Yes factions should work together to dethrone, but I don't find it odd that EP and AD might want to fight each other occasionally instead of the DC emp zerg. If DC is just going to nightcap, why bother?

D0RID0RI240

Ah yes, the noble AD, particularly the shitter sorc squad that resource capped Arrius, and then harrassed EP all the way to chal. If I didnt know better, id say these heros (referenced in a long winded post earlier today) were in Daniels pocket...

wolfwraith37

NBrookus wrote: »

Yes factions should work together to dethrone, but I don't find it odd that EP and AD might want to fight each other occasionally instead of the DC emp zerg. If DC is just going to nightcap, why bother?

I never thought I'd miss Team Purple, but having both factions being forced to focus on DC 99.99% of the time gets kind of boring. I would honestly love to go screw around and harass EP a little just to fight someone different and to remind myself what that side of the map looks like. But EP only has tri keeps (if even that) a lot of the time when I'm on so I don't. (Also most of the time neither EP nor AD can afford the distraction of fighting each other.)

But yeah, I can totally understand just wanting to remember there are other colors than blue lol

Malibulove

Getting the EP pugs to ignore AD bushwackers was a pain in the ass, I only forgive AD because they actually managed to dethrone in the end.

If I had been less sober I'm not sure I would have bothered trying to explain the intricacies of why helping a faction dethrone ends up benefiting everyone.

Also screw all the EP that complained about Alessia; my elite pug group took a vote and we totally decided occasionally trying to take Alessia was an appropriate response towards AD cocking up our Ash sieges.

Rickter

I think it depends on your group size. I know that if I had 3-5 people in my group and i went to a dominated map where there was a 20 man response team that shows up at the sight of a resource flip, I'd probably poke the other non-dominant faction.

This was life on Haderus about 9 months ago. I'd log in every day pushed to the gates. we'd start at 6:45PM and take back our home keeps one by one and usually get stopped at bleakers/ash/dragonclaw.

It sucks. and its a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

Protip: A lot of times all it takes is a simple shout in zone chat saying: "Im sieging on LM side at X-Keep" and people will show up. trust me.

Dutchessx

I logged on to my DC this afternoon to try to talk some sense into DC since the emp won't talk to me on my EP, so I thought I would try in zone but he wouldn't even talk to me there. DC are killing the server. They are saying in zone that it is in response to what EP is doing to Almalexia, and for what AD did to Azura's several months ago which makes no sense to kill a server because someone got their panties in a wad over what happened to them somewhere else. I am calling on ALL DC to take a look at what this group of people are doing to your fun, do you want to be a part of it? Sooner or later there will be no one left to fight there, THAT is not wining that is EVERYONE loosing.

Kartalin

It's hard to talk sense into pug zerglings who chase after every flagged resource at enemy trikeeps, but I totally agree with you Dutchess.

And as much as we punish them in prime time the ones responsible hide from us at those times like the cowards they are.

Phreeki

Well gratz to Scrub Noris and its Scrub EMP. 90% of the DC faction on Sotha are some of the worst players i have ever encountered.

They are using an imaginary slight to justify gate camping ect ect. Every player in Scrub Noris is free ap.
Even in large groups we kill 2/3 of it and they just overwhelm us with scrub numbers.

DK ScrubKnight as emp is zero threat, i have never seen an emp die as fast as him, its the DC scrubs that tag along thinking they are good players zerging down 9 people at a resource with 40+ that are the problem.

wolfwraith37

Dutchessx wrote: »

DC are killing the server. They are saying in zone that it is in response to what EP is doing to Almalexia, and for what AD did to Azura's several months ago which makes no sense to kill a server because someone got their panties in a wad over what happened to them somewhere else.

So...DC are killing Azura's because they're mad about...Almalexia. And instead of recruiting DC to Almalexia to fight EP, they are instead punishing completely different people. And they are justifying their actions against AD by mumbling "because reasons".

...Well then. That's... Right.

Kartalin

*** are gonna be ***, why try to justify your *** DC?

Rickter

So as a DC that doesnt want to partake in bullshittery. . . . I went to Almalexia. If the EP there would home on Sotha Sil, ya'll would nt have these problems.

seriously its the guild <Dreadlords> 20+ deep doing the same thing DC is doing on Sotha. like, what is wrong with humanity?

I will say i had some really fun fights. and we attempted a scroll run and it got the blood pumping.

gabriebe

I tried Almalexia like 3 weeks ago I think and the leaderboards of AD and EP looked like mirror images of each other.

gameswithaspoon

Rickter wrote: »

Time for some perspective: You guys talk about @CN_Daniel more than Fengrush has ever been mentioned. Fengrush is dethroned. He wont even come onto Daniel's turf. Every single post for the last 3 pages has mentioned Daniel and his mighty army. His ruthless tactics has achieved the goal: burn his memory into the weak minds of his adversaries. We may not all agree on his tactics but he has single handedly achieved what no other has: complete and utter infamy and renown. He is the bane of every thing not Daggerfall. He has literally caused the other two factions to band together against him and he has, as a fact, made members of the other faction literally consider quitting the game. His sheer might is terrible indeed.

Congrats on the AD emperor. May the accomplishment fuel you in the dark days to come.

Spoon counted back 65 posts, and technically it's only three. We spend a lot more time talking about DC's lack of moral fortitude as an entire faction. Reminds Spoon so much of last spring, when DC vet guilds gate-camped the entire campaign in non-vet BWB. Nominally, their "excuse" was that someone didn't like Sora who had switched to AD. Spoon watched Sora go from social pariah to the patron saint of new players, as he patiently closed the gates day after day. Do you know what Spoon cannot remember? The name of the DC Zerglord on the other side.

Whoever he was.

Spoon can't remember the names of any of the DC or EP Emperors she fought against last summer. Spoon was at several of gabriebe's last stands, but it's a bit of a blank as to what they were like. Meh. Spoon can't remember the name of the EP gate-camping Emp she got her first emp-slayer achievement on. We guested in to a campaign after meeting an AD in PVE who said her only pvp was just trying to sneak out into Cyrodiil at least once a day. Spoon killed him with silver bolts on a hill outside Cropsford, and was told it was literally the first time he'd died. I remember the name of the AD player we made Emperor that day, and I even met her again in Anvil a month ago. We recognized each other after three years.

Spoon's point is that enemies are either faceless or they are just scarecrows and puppets. Yes, DC has a mascot for their bad behavior. But what brings us back in day after day, is each other, our guilds and friends, and the sense of community in our faction. Yes, Spoon does miss Fengrush, but all he does is Battlegrounds these days. His frustration with the loading screen issue in Cyrodiil is understandable.

Loading screens. Now there's what is the bane of every faction. Loading screens have sheer might.



P.S. There's only one dark day each month. And that's the first when Wellsfargo wants all Spoon's monies. Poor, poor Spoon.

Also Spoon will grant an Insightful to the first person who can remember the name of the DC Zerglord who hates Sora. It's driving her crazy.

Rickter

the point i was trying to make is that as a DC player, there isnt a whole lot to do on Sotha Sil these days. I refuse to gate camp and i do think it lacks a moral fortitude. So instead of compounding the issue, I guested onto Almalexia for a couple hours. The experience wasnt particularly enjoyable, but i did find some fun fights here and there. unfortunately, there was the aforementioned EP emp zerg group, and they were a zerg (remember: its anything over 24) vs quite in fact possibly 9 DC on the entire server. Im not exaggerating. I tried to rally every single person on the server and i got 9 at the peek of the group.

Why does a faction feel as though they need to run that many deep against such little opposition?

Furthermore, it shows that despite the issues on Sotha Sil, no faction is above this. You all do it.

We planned a croll cap, got it out of the keep and then our4 were met with the preliminary 4 man EMP group, which then turned into a tidal wave of EP against our 4 man. 4 of us. Emp came in guns blazing with a destro ult. lulz.

So idk. As a faction, EP has a large guild that could benefit Sotha EP greatly, simply content with blanketing another server instead of homing over to help.