A Sad Truth

magictucktuck · May 2017

OP is obviously trolling, he is blatantly ignoring all the facts and only focusing on his 1% used keyword.

well played..

FlicksZ · May 2017

HueHueHueHue. Forums are also dead when compared to Beta and release.

Wolfs_Blood · May 2017

LadyLavina wrote: »

Kodrac wrote: »

Propaganda for someone's niche agenda

Thread is now Germany 1941

Mein Graphs

Artis · May 2017

Guys it's ok, don't listen to google. Google is dying. #sadtruth.

faerigirl · May 2017

Kiwi wrote: »

good luck in your attempt to drive traffic to wtfever that crap website you linked and good luck being delusional in your belief that anyone really cares

OMG! I nearly chocked on my iced tea when I saw your post!

So awesome

LadyLavina · May 2017

Wolfs_Blood wrote: »

LadyLavina wrote: »

Kodrac wrote: »

Propaganda for someone's niche agenda

Thread is now Germany 1941

Mein Graphs

that totally made my day

Thannazzar · May 2017

Lmfao not sure if the OP was trying to troll, flame or was just desperate to have his/her ego stroked.

If you don't like the game don't play it. Your decision to play or quit is of zero interest to players and will neither impact or effect the decisions they make with regard to the game. Posting your reasons is quickly recognised as a pathetic attempt at self aggrandisement and ignored.

ESO is a game enjoyed by its playerbase and posts like the OPs are neither helpful or constructive.

Tholian1 · May 2017

Game is dying threads = "I am unhappy or bored with this game so it must be dying."

Every game forum has them.

Kiralyn2000 · May 2017

Query - do reduced Google/Youtube searches show less interest by active players, or less interest by prospective players?

Personally, when I'm an active player of a game, if I do search, it's always for something specific. Like "eso furniture tables" or "eso location of <insert missing exploration point here>". Not "eso" or "Elder Scrolls Online".

(and really, I 99.9% don't search Youtube at all for games I'm playing. About the only thing I look for there are trailers for upcoming games. In which case the search is "<game> launch trailer" or "<game> promo trailer".)

/shrug

Cadbury · May 2017

I remember last year someone on the FFXIV forums used google trends and similar logic as the OP as "proof" that FFXIV was dying.

So that alone makes this topic extra hilarious.

ThePaleItalian · May 2017

MNsnowtaTy wrote: »

crappyjazz1964 wrote: »

73% of statistics are made up

While the other 36% of statistics are just bs.

But that 1%.... that is the sweet spot

Alcast · May 2017

It is hilarious, all those ppl QQing, but they keep coming back and spam the forum.

Do not like the game? Then leave instead of whining like a little kiddo about it for *** weeks.

RinaldoGandolphi · May 2017

If you actually go to https://trends.google.com

Type in ESO, eso, The Elder Scrolls Online, etc

If you actually "However your mouse arrow" on the Blue line it will show you the date. The Date at the bottom is only a legend, the far end of the chart goes as far as May 7th of 2017 which is current.

I am not manipulating any data, and I know how to read the charts.

The Trends show:

1. A BIG spike from March 30-April 4 of 2014
2. Followed by a continual decline from April 12th to July 19th of 2014
3. Followed by staying Steady from July 2014 till November 2014
4. A small dip further down in December of 2014
5. A small rise from Jan-March of 2015
6. A HUGE spike from June 5-June 13th of 2015
7. A steady decline from June 20th to December 26th 2015 (Post IC release)
8. A small uptake from December 27th to Jan 9th 2016
9. A decline from Jan 2016 to May2016
10. A small uptake from June-July 2016
11. Held steady from July to December 2016
12. A small uptake from Jan-Feb 2017
13. April 2017 small uptake (F2P weekend)
14. Small decline, holding steady in May 2017

If you actually hover your mouse over the blue line it gives you more precise dates

Thats how the data is read.

If these small up and down spikes are the normal, im not sure where they go from here. Skyrim a 2011 game has better trends...They need to find a way to bring in more people somehow.

the game won't survive longterm with these kinda trends.

I want ESO to be around for a long time...they need to figure it out somehow...via marketing whatever...they need to get more people playing the game somehow.

We have never recovered from the HUGE loss of players shortly after Imperial City release. This is the crux...this was the straw that broke the camels back.

Luckily for ZOS its not a game changer yet, they have time to fix it, but they best not wait around too long to do it...even if that means having more F2P weeks, or giving discounts, or bonus items, or something to get more people to buy the game and try it...they need to do something.

RavenRoxie · May 2017

I truly hope the OP does not have a job in sales, because you are bad at it. Not buying any of this. I only play on PC, so I can't speak for console. But, we have loads of people!! Cryrodiil is always in a queue on trueflame in the evenings (US time).

I just taste alot of hateraid here. Not thirsty, but thanks OP.

Want to learn what an actual DIEING game looks like? Google APB:Reloaded, it is on it's death bed currently. May it rest in peace. But, I assure you, ESO is yeeears from that bed. Zenimax does some dumb stuff sometimes, but this thread is ridiculous lpl

kylewwefan · May 2017

1.) Create a doom n gloom post
2.) Back it up with google trends graphs so it looks scientific
3.) This is why I'm leaving, no you can't have my stuff
4.) get lots of posts and more stars under my name.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · May 2017

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

If you actually go to https://trends.google.com

Type in ESO, eso, The Elder Scrolls Online, etc

If you actually "However your mouse arrow" on the Blue line it will show you the date. The Date at the bottom is only a legend, the far end of the chart goes as far as May 7th of 2017 which is current.

I am not manipulating any data, and I know how to read the charts.

The Trends show:

1. A BIG spike from March 30-April 4 of 2014
2. Followed by a continual decline from April 12th to July 19th of 2014
3. Followed by staying Steady from July 2014 till November 2014
4. A small dip further down in December of 2014
5. A small rise from Jan-March of 2015
6. A HUGE spike from June 5-June 13th of 2015
7. A steady decline from June 20th to December 26th 2015 (Post IC release)
8. A small uptake from December 27th to Jan 9th 2016
9. A decline from Jan 2016 to May2016
10. A small uptake from June-July 2016
11. Held steady from July to December 2016
12. A small uptake from Jan-Feb 2017
13. April 2017 small uptake (F2P weekend)
14. Small decline, holding steady in May 2017

If you actually hover your mouse over the blue line it gives you more precise dates

Thats how the data is read.

If these small up and down spikes are the normal, im not sure where they go from here. Skyrim a 2011 game has better trends...They need to find a way to bring in more people somehow.

the game won't survive longterm with these kinda trends.

I want ESO to be around for a long time...they need to figure it out somehow...via marketing whatever...they need to get more people playing the game somehow.

We have never recovered from the HUGE loss of players shortly after Imperial City release. This is the crux...this was the straw that broke the camels back.

Luckily for ZOS its not a game changer yet, they have time to fix it, but they best not wait around too long to do it...even if that means having more F2P weeks, or giving discounts, or bonus items, or something to get more people to buy the game and try it...they need to do something.

I'll bite.

Please give me an estimated date in which ESO will go from dying to dead.

RinaldoGandolphi · May 2017

Alcast wrote: »

It is hilarious, all those ppl QQing, but they keep coming back and spam the forum.

Do not like the game? Then leave instead of whining like a little kiddo about it for *** weeks.

Actually @Alcast that is not my intent.

My intent is to hopefully convince ZOS to find new ways to get more people playing.

Burying our heads in the sand and saying there isn't an issue will get us no where and does more harm then it does good. A problem must first always be acknowledged before it can be corrected....discounting everyone who says something they don't agree with as some sort of troll does nothing but hurt us all.

i still play ESO at times for FFS!

Simply put, ZOS needs to market some freebies, toss in some codes with Skyrim SE purchases and ongoing game codes with folks buying the TES games off steam and give people more opportunities to try ESO

Let them throw in a week free of Gametime for anyone who purchases a Bethesda game...get people a free week....get them in the game...get them to try it...hopefully 25% of them stay, if they do BOOM we have a big winner!!!!

Google Trends goes back up to a good solid level, ZOS makes more money, we have more players, and everyone wins.

This is what this thread is shooting for

Putting such a code inside of Prey boxes, and giving such a code with Steam purchases of Prey woulda have been a winner....

We need to get easy access in front of more people....just giving away a free week with purchase of another game..it will do ESO well to do something like this...it will get more people to try it. thats the entire goal of this post.

Didgerion · May 2017

pizzaow wrote: »

To continue what @Crafts_Many_Boxes says, here is the trending data for "ESO"

Doesn't look dead to me. You can look for yourself here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=ESO

Note that all of the related topics are video game/mmo related

Please do your research better before posting.

ESO acronym does not stand for Elder Scrolls Online only.
In Spanish it stands for Secondary Education (ESO, Educación Secundaria Obligatoria).

Using ESO acronym for your study is not accurate.

Minno · May 2017

http://steamcharts.com/app/306130

Related link.

Though it's just a log of players in the game at the time of data collection. Much better showing for one Tamriel than at start. But steam selling the game came later (July versus April), where we could have seen how many players actually played the game at launch.

Loves_guars · May 2017

Sigh...I'm just wondering how much longer we have to wait for the quitters to quit.

geonsocal · May 2017

that's interesting about the effect the release of imperial city had...

I remember when I first logged in to IC...i had a level 30 stamblade and all I could do was sneak around...

ironically, ic is one of my favorite places to play...

I can definitely see how ic may have turned off a whole lot of folks...namely having to ride through a gauntlet of gankers back in the day, just to get to the dlc...

Edit: where have all the gankers gone???

BigBragg · May 2017

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

It is hilarious, all those ppl QQing, but they keep coming back and spam the forum.

Do not like the game? Then leave instead of whining like a little kiddo about it for *** weeks.

Actually @Alcast that is not my intent.

My intent is to hopefully convince ZOS to find new ways to get more people playing.

Burying our heads in the sand and saying there isn't an issue will get us no where and does more harm then it does good. A problem must first always be acknowledged before it can be corrected....discounting everyone who says something they don't agree with as some sort of troll does nothing but hurt us all.

i still play ESO at times for FFS!

Simply put, ZOS needs to market some freebies, toss in some codes with Skyrim SE purchases and ongoing game codes with folks buying the TES games off steam and give people more opportunities to try ESO

Let them throw in a week free of Gametime for anyone who purchases a Bethesda game...get people a free week....get them in the game...get them to try it...hopefully 25% of them stay, if they do BOOM we have a big winner!!!!

Google Trends goes back up to a good solid level, ZOS makes more money, we have more players, and everyone wins.

This is what this thread is shooting for

Putting such a code inside of Prey boxes, and giving such a code with Steam purchases of Prey woulda have been a winner....

We need to get easy access in front of more people....just giving away a free week with purchase of another game..it will do ESO well to do something like this...it will get more people to try it. thats the entire goal of this post.

They recently did a free weekend, and have given away game code items with both Skyrim Special Edition and their card game Elder Scrolls: Legends. Welcome to the party man, I dig the fashionable late entrance with an old article from some obscure guild page. Very hipster chic, with a dash of goth gloom.

RinaldoGandolphi · May 2017

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

If you actually go to https://trends.google.com

Type in ESO, eso, The Elder Scrolls Online, etc

If you actually "However your mouse arrow" on the Blue line it will show you the date. The Date at the bottom is only a legend, the far end of the chart goes as far as May 7th of 2017 which is current.

I am not manipulating any data, and I know how to read the charts.

The Trends show:

1. A BIG spike from March 30-April 4 of 2014
2. Followed by a continual decline from April 12th to July 19th of 2014
3. Followed by staying Steady from July 2014 till November 2014
4. A small dip further down in December of 2014
5. A small rise from Jan-March of 2015
6. A HUGE spike from June 5-June 13th of 2015
7. A steady decline from June 20th to December 26th 2015 (Post IC release)
8. A small uptake from December 27th to Jan 9th 2016
9. A decline from Jan 2016 to May2016
10. A small uptake from June-July 2016
11. Held steady from July to December 2016
12. A small uptake from Jan-Feb 2017
13. April 2017 small uptake (F2P weekend)
14. Small decline, holding steady in May 2017

If you actually hover your mouse over the blue line it gives you more precise dates

Thats how the data is read.

If these small up and down spikes are the normal, im not sure where they go from here. Skyrim a 2011 game has better trends...They need to find a way to bring in more people somehow.

the game won't survive longterm with these kinda trends.

I want ESO to be around for a long time...they need to figure it out somehow...via marketing whatever...they need to get more people playing the game somehow.

We have never recovered from the HUGE loss of players shortly after Imperial City release. This is the crux...this was the straw that broke the camels back.

Luckily for ZOS its not a game changer yet, they have time to fix it, but they best not wait around too long to do it...even if that means having more F2P weeks, or giving discounts, or bonus items, or something to get more people to buy the game and try it...they need to do something.

I'll bite.

Please give me an estimated date in which ESO will go from dying to dead.

That depends totally on how much Zenimax is willing to invest. How much they have invested.

Your asking a question based on investments. If a company invests 200m into a project, they won't quickly just pull up shop. they will try to break even, or minimize loss.

They could very well right now just barely be scraping by, yet they will keep it going because they are trying to minimize losses or break even on investment.

its unfair of you to ask such a question, because business investments and trends are two completely unrelated things. I have no idea how much capital Zenimax Media actually has, I have no idea what the month to month budget books look like for ESO. How and why compnaies invest and keep certain things and close others are often not even related to each other.

Simply put, its a dishonest question.

this post says the "interest" in the game is dying off, not that the game itself is dying off.

Even STWOR despite being a commercial failure is still up and running, mostly because of investment commits i would assume they have figured out a way to make just enough that they will eventually recoup their investors money and minimize losses, so it makes sense to keep it going for now. Not everything is so cut and dry.

Absolut_Turkey · May 2017

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Yes, the original article is from 2016 BUT

if you actually "read" you would see the two photos at the very bottom of the post are the Google Trends all the way up to May of 2017 which is current which shows ZERO change from the orginal article whihc proves the point.

Furthermore, searches for ESO are actually worse then The Elder Scrolls Online, showing the same exact nosedive after Imperial City release(June of 2015)

You must be so embarrassed!
Seriously though, pointless thread is pointless.

RinaldoGandolphi · May 2017

Absolut_Turkey wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Yes, the original article is from 2016 BUT

if you actually "read" you would see the two photos at the very bottom of the post are the Google Trends all the way up to May of 2017 which is current which shows ZERO change from the orginal article whihc proves the point.

Furthermore, searches for ESO are actually worse then The Elder Scrolls Online, showing the same exact nosedive after Imperial City release(June of 2015)

You must be so embarrassed!

How so?

See May 2015

See that downward slope? if you track that with your mouse, all the way down you see it taking a nosedive that it never recovers from. Trends never gets that high again. The only time it ever got close to being that high was back in April of 2014 show on the left slighty to the right of Nov 2013.

Cadbury · May 2017

Ok, this is becoming so much like that FFXIV doom thread it's bordering on parody.

Draqone · May 2017

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Actually @Alcast that is not my intent.

My intent is to hopefully convince ZOS to find new ways to get more people playing.

What?

You do realise that ZOS know exactly how many people are playing, how long the subscriptions are, how many hours they play, in what zones. ZOS knows every single detail they care about, they'd probably be able to tell you the average gold per hour earned by level 15 Daggerfall Covenant players.

I am sure ZOS has more detailed statisics and that if they cared they'd get it from google as well.

Minno · May 2017

Draqone wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Actually @Alcast that is not my intent.

My intent is to hopefully convince ZOS to find new ways to get more people playing.

What?

You do realise that ZOS know exactly how many people are playing, how long the subscriptions are, how many hours they play, in what zones. ZOS knows every single detail they care about, they'd probably be able to tell you the average gold per hour earned by level 15 Daggerfall Covenant players.

I am sure ZOS has more detailed statisics and that if they cared they'd get it from google as well.

I wouldn't trust much unless I could see those numbers anyway. That's what makes google/steam charts widely used; impartial numbers based on search requests/players playing (via steam).

Rohamad_Ali · May 2017

The only sad truth is this thread is badly titled . I've laughed more here then any other thread .

kyle.wilson · May 2017

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Absolut_Turkey wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Yes, the original article is from 2016 BUT

if you actually "read" you would see the two photos at the very bottom of the post are the Google Trends all the way up to May of 2017 which is current which shows ZERO change from the orginal article whihc proves the point.

Furthermore, searches for ESO are actually worse then The Elder Scrolls Online, showing the same exact nosedive after Imperial City release(June of 2015)

You must be so embarrassed!

How so?

See May 2015

See that downward slope? if you track that with your mouse, all the way down you see it taking a nosedive that it never recovers from. Trends never gets that high again. The only time it ever got close to being that high was back in April of 2014 show on the left slighty to the right of Nov 2013.

You mistake anomaly spikes with trends. The general trend for "ESO" search phrase shows it going up over time. Those spikes were expected around each major commercial campaign.
Trending ESO, Elder Scrolls Online, Tamriel Unlimited, Morrowind, and any other search term that could bring you to ESO would be better indicative of actual interest.

When you look at stock charts all day it's easier to spot trends.