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  • technohic
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    I reported a little while back that we would give ESO yet another try. We did. After logging in, I struggled to find a single player actually doing anything out in the world of ESO

    Stopped reading right there.. Such lie's there are plenty of ppl running around doing quests what did this person do play the game at 3 in the morning or something

    PS not every one uses google i sure don't

    Thats what got me right away along with Cyrodiil being dominated by one faction on 3 different campaigns. Think they logged in at 6 AM.
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Lol. Anyone consider that people Google less because they've learned more?

    Not as much research required and other sources (in game, experienced players, trial and error) besides search engines...)

    Marketing gets paid to make it work - something they are clearly good at, regardless of the actual state of the game.

    Analogy: McD's doesn't make millions because it has an awesome burger, yet it makes millions nonetheless.
    Edited by Merlin13KAGL on May 11, 2017 12:42PM
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Digielf
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    People who say that a game is dead are always trolls. ESO is single player so even if youre the only person playing it doesnt matter, an mmo dies only when the servers close permantely.
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  • MCBIZZLE300
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    On PS4 EU every city is literally rammed, I was up at 4 am today so i decided to go node farming, there was still people doing the same!
  • Nermy
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    I love the fact everyone has just poo-pooed his claims! :D
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  • Insandros
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    no offence dude, but how much time have you wasted doing/typing all this and coming up with all that stuff? I presume you haven'T done the Intro quest to Morrowind that came up with this week's patch, or did Jester festival, you would had realised how annoying it can be to talk to a single NPC when blended in tons of player's toon... yeah you don't come across hundreeds of people while questing, not because the game is dying, but simply because with One Tamriel people are spreaded all over the map, not just to a zone affected by their lvls, so more spread all over Tamriel than zones. Start gathering ressources you might find it annoying crossing others stealing your node. :) As long as i'm concerned, on N-A PC Serveurs, i come across lots of people, and remember something, if you try to find peoples on night time for that server's zone, yeah might be harder to comme across people at 2 o'cloek at night on N-A servers (maybe you wrote some of those numebrs in your thing, but i got to be honest, i only read the first 2 paragraphs and stoped).
  • Cherryblossom
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    Yes, the original article is from 2016 BUT

    if you actually "read" you would see the two photos at the very bottom of the post are the Google Trends all the way up to May of 2017 which is current which shows ZERO change from the orginal article whihc proves the point.

    Furthermore, searches for ESO are actually worse then The Elder Scrolls Online, showing the same exact nosedive after Imperial City release(June of 2015)

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    Whilst I don't agree with many here that ESO is a healthy game, your interputation is terrible;
    The Graph show the spikes of interest at specific places, ie. new realses, it also shows a gradual increase over time. Just so you understand Plot a line from May 2013 to Nov 2016, I think you will find that line goes up not down.
  • BRCOURTN
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    thank you @schroed360

    Sorry to hear of your loss as well. We all lose loved ones unfortunately, at the end of the day they would want us to carry forth their legacy and be happy.

    You have put up a very well thought out post here, and there is simply nothing there I can disagree with. Your views are based on historical facts with the game. Also, as i have said, I think interest in the game is less then it used to be, however that doesn't mean its the end right away. That all could change with Morrowind, just never know with these things. They just need more players and need to make sure they keep them this time. :)

    If I understand correctly, what you've said so far is that you provided this data from google search trends to let ZOS know their game is dying. But ZOS has much better data on the subject, making this thread completely pointless if that was the goal.

    If your goal was to raise awareness of the game dying to other players, then a forum post on the official forums wouldn't be anywhere near the right place to post this. No player here would see this game as dead or dying because we all play it currently. This leads to a pointless post as well.

    If the post was made to get ideas, like the one presented for refer a friend, it was clear that other forum posts had already been created for that purpose... making this a pointless post.

    I don't really care all that much about the google trends and statistics you posted because I'm going to play the game whether there are one thousand or one million people playing. My biggest concern is that you would take so much time, like you claim you did, on making a post that was just utterly pointless.
  • RavenRoxie
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    I believe this thread should receive the "Best Bathroom Reading Material of the Month" award.
    :D
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  • deepseamk20b14_ESO
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    Weird, whenever I logon there are plenty of people and when I enter cyro there are battles going on.
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  • Asardes
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    Insandros wrote: »
    no offence dude, but how much time have you wasted doing/typing all this and coming up with all that stuff? I presume you haven'T done the Intro quest to Morrowind that came up with this week's patch, or did Jester festival, you would had realised how annoying it can be to talk to a single NPC when blended in tons of player's toon... yeah you don't come across hundreeds of people while questing, not because the game is dying, but simply because with One Tamriel people are spreaded all over the map, not just to a zone affected by their lvls, so more spread all over Tamriel than zones. Start gathering ressources you might find it annoying crossing others stealing your node. :) As long as i'm concerned, on N-A PC Serveurs, i come across lots of people, and remember something, if you try to find peoples on night time for that server's zone, yeah might be harder to comme across people at 2 o'cloek at night on N-A servers (maybe you wrote some of those numebrs in your thing, but i got to be honest, i only read the first 2 paragraphs and stoped).

    Yep, I remember the days before One Tamriel. The game was dead back then, with life still clinging to the alliance capital cities. I used to to port to a shrine outside of Mournhold and ride into tow, because porting to the one in the middle of the town usually resulted in an endless loading screen and timeout server kick because the place was so packed. I even used to call that place "DCshan". People were swarming there for the undaunted dailies, guild shops and other services because there wasn't much to do somewhere else as the zone was level 15-20 and the game, excepting DLC zones, was way under the VR16/CP160 cap.
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  • Asardes
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    Weird, whenever I logon there are plenty of people and when I enter cyro there are battles going on.

    Yep, Trueflame is pop locked all the time, and I even encountered pop lock on 2/3 factions on Haderus a few times during this week-end, which I didn't see before though most of the time it's only at 2 lines. Not a whole lot of players around but far from dead. If you wanted to see a dead campaign you should have seen Ebony Blade and Spell Breaker before they closed those down: at the end of the month the best player had around 2M AP and I got gold jewelry with as little as 500K AP. And those people were probably that high repairing walls because you could ride for hours and not see any player, let alone one from an opposing faction. People probably went there just to farm the shards because for most of the time the map was one color, with the gates wide open. Either red or blue. IC was empty as hell, except the occasional party of 2-3 player farming the bosses for TV.
    Edited by Asardes on May 15, 2017 12:09PM
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  • Sylidor
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    But I use Bing..
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  • Naerri
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    But but, it has graphs and shiat, it must be true!
  • KidoSwagomi
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    Maybe with all the time you spent typing all of that out, you could have logged in and seen how busy the game is.
  • BigBragg
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    A sad truth, this thread should have died a long time ago.
  • andreasv
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    Using Google trends as well as steamcharts, I don't think it looks too bad.

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  • slumber_sandb16_ESO
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    Game doesnt have 5 million players, it must be dead.

    I took a break for a year, first time I log in again and there are people -everywhere-.
  • Anhedonie
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    Damn, where is that LOL button when you really need it.
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  • Peekachu99
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    Does someone want to post the Steamspy, actual recorded player data and logins? I'm too lazy to dispel this particular wall-I-FUD

    Morrowind nostalgia will have this game's population higher than ever.
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Lol such funny article. I would partially believe this if ZOS's income came from web traffic or trends but since ZOS income comes from sales it doesn't really matter if the game is widely popular or not on a search engine. And no, web search doesn't imply higher sales, you can be profitable with a small loyal community. ESO community has been healthy nevertheless.
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  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    You mistake anomaly spikes with trends. The general trend for "ESO" search phrase shows it going up over time. Those spikes were expected around each major commercial campaign.
    Trending ESO, Elder Scrolls Online, Tamriel Unlimited, Morrowind, and any other search term that could bring you to ESO would be better indicative of actual interest.
    When you look at stock charts all day it's easier to spot trends.
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  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    RavenRoxie wrote: »
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    I believe this thread should receive the "Best Bathroom Reading Material of the Month" award.
    :D
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    And presumably, you eat in your bathroom as well? You disgust me. :I
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  • RavenRoxie
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    RavenRoxie wrote: »
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    I believe this thread should receive the "Best Bathroom Reading Material of the Month" award.
    :D
    @RavenRoxie
    And presumably, you eat in your bathroom as well? You disgust me. :I

    HAHA nah, never eaten in there, would be too contradictory for me. I do take my phone/tablet with me, and this is lovely reading material. LoL
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