Crispen_Longbow wrote: »Plan and simple this is a lie. Kilandros you really should hold yourself to a high standard then spreading lies, if not we will call you out on it.
I know it's nuanced, but my point is that we know VE actively works to stack guilds in one place--you've said so in the past.
Don't confuse last Emp Keep stands when all faction guilds (DC/EP/AD) show up to dethrone as the EMP alliance already has their entire faction stacked in the keep.We do not actively try to do this, though we do admit that sometimes we happen to be in the same place as another guild. That's a pretty big difference, in my opinion.
Just remember that this thread got derailed because Crispen made the ridiculous "DC groups actively work to avoid each other," comment. We all know that to be untrue.
lol you really have no idea about the DC guilds. SG and BOD hate each other you should see the crap that comes from shadowgrabber towards saramis in zone.
I'm spreading lies? Well OK then. Straight from Bulba:x99Needles wrote: »I stacked with other guilds when the circumstances called for it and have no shame for it. All of us have, and if you want to deny it than you have a different issue to address all together.
I expect the salt levels to exceed 9000 on this thread rather quickly. I will say now; I will not revisit this thread or forum again. So you may spare yourself some time from posting a hateful reply that I will never see.
We've all stacked up when needed, if it's a whole faction coming in, a dethrone, a gate defense or what have you. You trying to twist that into "VE encourages guilds to stack" is pathetic.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
Crispen_Longbow wrote: »Plan and simple this is a lie. Kilandros you really should hold yourself to a high standard then spreading lies, if not we will call you out on it.
I know it's nuanced, but my point is that we know VE actively works to stack guilds in one place--you've said so in the past.
Don't confuse last Emp Keep stands when all faction guilds (DC/EP/AD) show up to dethrone as the EMP alliance already has their entire faction stacked in the keep.We do not actively try to do this, though we do admit that sometimes we happen to be in the same place as another guild. That's a pretty big difference, in my opinion.
Just remember that this thread got derailed because Crispen made the ridiculous "DC groups actively work to avoid each other," comment. We all know that to be untrue.
lol you really have no idea about the DC guilds. SG and BOD hate each other you should see the crap that comes from shadowgrabber towards saramis in zone.
I'm spreading lies? Well OK then. Straight from Bulba:x99Needles wrote: »I stacked with other guilds when the circumstances called for it and have no shame for it. All of us have, and if you want to deny it than you have a different issue to address all together.
I expect the salt levels to exceed 9000 on this thread rather quickly. I will say now; I will not revisit this thread or forum again. So you may spare yourself some time from posting a hateful reply that I will never see.
We've all stacked up when needed, if it's a whole faction coming in, a dethrone, a gate defense or what have you. You trying to twist that into "VE encourages guilds to stack" is pathetic.
Ok Steve. Good luck and have fun.
Did Crispen just say that DC guilds try to avoid stacking? I just assumed VE and BoD and Shadowgrabber had all merged. Whoops.
Same could be said for EP and their Haxvictus Militia that is seen at almost every keep engagement.......it appears that high concentrations of Himalayan Pink makes people a little too reactive.
Did Crispen just say that DC guilds try to avoid stacking? I just assumed VE and BoD and Shadowgrabber had all merged. Whoops.
Same could be said for EP and their Haxvictus Militia that is seen at almost every keep engagement.......it appears that high concentrations of Himalayan Pink makes people a little too reactive.
We prefer the term Staxus Militia or Invixus Militia or simply Pact raids 3-16. Though Haxvictus Militia works too and rolls off the tounge fairly well.
Crispen_Longbow wrote: »Plan and simple this is a lie. Kilandros you really should hold yourself to a high standard then spreading lies, if not we will call you out on it.
I know it's nuanced, but my point is that we know VE actively works to stack guilds in one place--you've said so in the past.
Don't confuse last Emp Keep stands when all faction guilds (DC/EP/AD) show up to dethrone as the EMP alliance already has their entire faction stacked in the keep.We do not actively try to do this, though we do admit that sometimes we happen to be in the same place as another guild. That's a pretty big difference, in my opinion.
Just remember that this thread got derailed because Crispen made the ridiculous "DC groups actively work to avoid each other," comment. We all know that to be untrue.
lol you really have no idea about the DC guilds. SG and BOD hate each other you should see the crap that comes from shadowgrabber towards saramis in zone.
I'm spreading lies? Well OK then. Straight from Bulba:x99Needles wrote: »I stacked with other guilds when the circumstances called for it and have no shame for it. All of us have, and if you want to deny it than you have a different issue to address all together.
I expect the salt levels to exceed 9000 on this thread rather quickly. I will say now; I will not revisit this thread or forum again. So you may spare yourself some time from posting a hateful reply that I will never see.
We've all stacked up when needed, if it's a whole faction coming in, a dethrone, a gate defense or what have you. You trying to twist that into "VE encourages guilds to stack" is pathetic.
IxSTALKERxI wrote: »Instead of 1vX the game now consists of GvX (Guild vs multiple guilds stacking). Gotta get dem GvX clips.
Seriously. Using that quote you could accuse Invictus of actively stacking guilds, or any other guild really.
We prefer the term Staxus Militia or Invixus Militia or simply Pact raids 3-16. Though Haxvictus Militia works too and rolls off the tounge fairly well.
Takllin, I'm not going to disagree with you because there certainly are several groups that size running effectively. Let me tell a story. The Grand Army of Virginia was massive, slow at times, and chased repeatedly by the Army of the Potomac. Lee utilized his Calvary in such a way that it acted as both the eyes of the Army and the brute force where needed. If we take this concept and look at ESO we find this. (just an example so no one get mad or upset.) EP likes to ball up, we know this and they are not any different than AD or DC. Haxus, a guild that I have repeatedly complimented and admired, likes to surf inside that ball. Haxus is acting like a small Calvary group inside a larger army. We see this all the time and many players simply cry out faction stacking as if its a bad thing to play the objectives on the map. It is not at all. It's a very strong group meta and we see it all the time.
Just as Crispen identified each guild group in an early post we can see how this all plays out. Small groups that are good like VE, Haxus, Fantasia, are all playing to the strengths of there group comp. Everyone else is playing to the strengths of there groups as well and we all should be happy, holding hands, and passing around that flask; because this is an awesome game that gives us the opportunity to play as you like.
Celas_Dranacea wrote: »IMO being "cool" and worthy of respect doesn't come down to whether you are solo/small man or in a large group stacked with other groups.
Celas_Dranacea wrote: »AD's guilds are like a collection of strongly allied Greek city states with a lot of familial ties and intermarriage amongst the citizenry. We mostly operate independently - but when called to aid an ally, most will respond if possible.
Celas_Dranacea wrote: »IMO being "cool" and worthy of respect doesn't come down to whether you are solo/small man or in a large group stacked with other groups.
yes it does
Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »Takllin, I'm not going to disagree with you because there certainly are several groups that size running effectively. Let me tell a story. The Grand Army of Virginia was massive, slow at times, and chased repeatedly by the Army of the Potomac. Lee utilized his Calvary in such a way that it acted as both the eyes of the Army and the brute force where needed. If we take this concept and look at ESO we find this. (just an example so no one get mad or upset.) EP likes to ball up, we know this and they are not any different than AD or DC. Haxus, a guild that I have repeatedly complimented and admired, likes to surf inside that ball. Haxus is acting like a small Calvary group inside a larger army. We see this all the time and many players simply cry out faction stacking as if its a bad thing to play the objectives on the map. It is not at all. It's a very strong group meta and we see it all the time.
Just as Crispen identified each guild group in an early post we can see how this all plays out. Small groups that are good like VE, Haxus, Fantasia, are all playing to the strengths of there group comp. Everyone else is playing to the strengths of there groups as well and we all should be happy, holding hands, and passing around that flask; because this is an awesome game that gives us the opportunity to play as you like.
How ironic, your group functions in manner very similar to the one you used to describe HAXUS. Only difference is that your group is like the old guard from Napoleon's Grand Army. It was an elite unit of very tall old veterans which served as shock troops often held in reserve. Experienced, disciplined and deadly, their only weakness was that they were old and slow.
Do the DC online right now realize that EP has emp?
Do the DC online right now realize that EP has emp?
Before this gets any more into revisionist history let me just point out that DC was trying to dethrone EP when AD decided to:
1. Attack us from behind at BRK
2. fail and then defended the new breach against us when we were on the inner
3. hit our home keeps
This ended up pulling DC to ASH and then on down to ROE, dividing our forces and completely derailing the dethrone. Half were fighting AD while half were dealing with ALL of EP.
Team purple indeed.
And in continuing DC fashion after a failed emp dethrone they will wait until Vanzan cleans up their mess for them during oceanic time.
Before this gets any more into revisionist history let me just point out that DC was trying to dethrone EP Hours after they let them take the map while DC futiley attacked Robeck when EP alts on their AD toons, and assorted scrubs decided to:
1. Attack us from behind at BRK
2. fail and then defended the new breach against us when we were on the inner
3. hit our home keeps
This ended up pulling DC to ASH and then on down to ROE Which they'd been attacking all day anyways , dividing our forces and completely derailing the dethrone. Half were In Nikel farming folks while half were dealing with ALL of EP.
Team purple indeed.
Before this gets any more into revisionist history let me just point out that DC was trying to dethrone EP when AD decided to:
1. Attack us from behind at BRK
2. fail and then defended the new breach against us when we were on the inner
3. hit our home keeps
This ended up pulling DC to ASH and then on down to ROE, dividing our forces and completely derailing the dethrone. Half were fighting AD while half were dealing with ALL of EP.
Team purple indeed.
Can confirm....I need to know how much Meth is paying Dominion Knights as they constantly pushed on one side while EP pushed the other. Jokes aside.........why AD.....why do you love your EP overlords so! For cereals though.......why couldn't y'all just stay on your side until AFTER the dethrone?
Before this gets any more into revisionist history let me just point out that DC was trying to dethrone EP when AD decided to:
1. Attack us from behind at BRK
2. fail and then defended the new breach against us when we were on the inner
3. hit our home keeps
This ended up pulling DC to ASH and then on down to ROE, dividing our forces and completely derailing the dethrone. Half were fighting AD while half were dealing with ALL of EP.
Team purple indeed.
Can confirm....I need to know how much Meth is paying Dominion Knights as they constantly pushed on one side while EP pushed the other. Jokes aside.........why AD.....why do you love your EP overlords so! For cereals though.......why couldn't y'all just stay on your side until AFTER the dethrone?
If you noticed DK came in behind saramis who had the ad scroll from the arrius side. We were actually chasing him and that yellow thing on his back. The fact that it was the last emp keep and nothing on the map was moving aside from it means nothing I suppose. I can assure you Meth is not on my list of favorite players to fight or laugh with so this comment was totally bogus.
I might ask the same thing. Why earlier in the night was DC pushing Roe while EP held everything from Alessia to Alswell? Why DC why are you helping EP how much was Meth paying you?
DisgracefulMind wrote: »Before this gets any more into revisionist history let me just point out that DC was trying to dethrone EP when AD decided to:
1. Attack us from behind at BRK
2. fail and then defended the new breach against us when we were on the inner
3. hit our home keeps
This ended up pulling DC to ASH and then on down to ROE, dividing our forces and completely derailing the dethrone. Half were fighting AD while half were dealing with ALL of EP.
Team purple indeed.
Can confirm....I need to know how much Meth is paying Dominion Knights as they constantly pushed on one side while EP pushed the other. Jokes aside.........why AD.....why do you love your EP overlords so! For cereals though.......why couldn't y'all just stay on your side until AFTER the dethrone?
If you noticed DK came in behind saramis who had the ad scroll from the arrius side. We were actually chasing him and that yellow thing on his back. The fact that it was the last emp keep and nothing on the map was moving aside from it means nothing I suppose. I can assure you Meth is not on my list of favorite players to fight or laugh with so this comment was totally bogus.
I might ask the same thing. Why earlier in the night was DC pushing Roe while EP held everything from Alessia to Alswell? Why DC why are you helping EP how much was Meth paying you?
I'm not complaining, I made about 100k AP at BRK last night farming AD and DC with the emp
And a nice, juicy 22k tick too
DC and AD can fight it out, I'll just be in the corner with PM Raid 16.
And in continuing DC fashion after a failed emp dethrone they will wait until Vanzan cleans up their mess for them during oceanic time.
EP knows what they're doing, crowning in the morning of a day I do not raid
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
No_True_Scotsman wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Before this gets any more into revisionist history let me just point out that DC was trying to dethrone EP when AD decided to:
1. Attack us from behind at BRK
2. fail and then defended the new breach against us when we were on the inner
3. hit our home keeps
This ended up pulling DC to ASH and then on down to ROE, dividing our forces and completely derailing the dethrone. Half were fighting AD while half were dealing with ALL of EP.
Team purple indeed.
Can confirm....I need to know how much Meth is paying Dominion Knights as they constantly pushed on one side while EP pushed the other. Jokes aside.........why AD.....why do you love your EP overlords so! For cereals though.......why couldn't y'all just stay on your side until AFTER the dethrone?
If you noticed DK came in behind saramis who had the ad scroll from the arrius side. We were actually chasing him and that yellow thing on his back. The fact that it was the last emp keep and nothing on the map was moving aside from it means nothing I suppose. I can assure you Meth is not on my list of favorite players to fight or laugh with so this comment was totally bogus.
I might ask the same thing. Why earlier in the night was DC pushing Roe while EP held everything from Alessia to Alswell? Why DC why are you helping EP how much was Meth paying you?
I'm not complaining, I made about 100k AP at BRK last night farming AD and DC with the emp
And a nice, juicy 22k tick too
DC and AD can fight it out, I'll just be in the corner with PM Raid 16.