PTS Patch Notes v3.0.0

strongarmfield

Are you just trying to keep nerfs to kill on the fanbase. I've yet to meet a single person also on PTS that likes the new changes. Warden is the only decent class PVE wise it seems like as it has the netch for sustain, Templar healing is dead, and Battle Roar is nerfed. Evem then personally the only thing about warden i enjoyed were some of the visiual effects, in all it's a boring class to play. I've played this game since about a month after release. Always payed for Pay to Play and for ESO plus and never took a break from the game in these about 3 years but for the first time having to look into other gaming options. If these aren't fixed before live I'm just done with the game. I know one person doesn't make a difference but from what I've heard I'm definitely not alone.

Gomumon

strongarmfield wrote: »

Are you just trying to keep nerfs to kill on the fanbase. I've yet to meet a single person also on PTS that likes the new changes. Warden is the only decent class PVE wise it seems like as it has the netch for sustain, Templar healing is dead, and Battle Roar is nerfed. Evem then personally the only thing about warden i enjoyed were some of the visiual effects, in all it's a boring class to play. I've played this game since about a month after release. Always payed for Pay to Play and for ESO plus and never took a break from the game in these about 3 years but for the first time having to look into other gaming options. If these aren't fixed before live I'm just done with the game. I know one person doesn't make a difference but from what I've heard I'm definitely not alone.

If you don't like it, don't play it. Really.

I'm not saying that to be smug or a ***, but it's really the only thing that's going to make a difference in your own enjoyment and with a company's decision making. When a company does things that loses them money, they listen.

Your opinion is completely valid and you have every right to discuss it online, but you'll more than likely be met with a torrent of white knights and sycophants convincing you that you're not, and you're just acting entitled. Having a discussion regarding this matter with such people is pointless cause they don't have power to change anything either.

I was able to get my Pre-Order and recent Plus subscription refunded. If you're unhappy with the product you're paying for, I'd urge you to do the same. Don't pay them just to wait and see and play it by ear. Only give them your money again when/if the product is satisfactory. Remember, gaming is for enjoyment.

Mackin365

After reading these notes O wish I had not bought the Morrowind update and think I will just quit playing the game. Every time I get to a point were my stamina character can breath they mess with everything and screw it up. So many hours invested and money and all they do is mess it up for the folks who put in the time to get where they are so the lowbies dont need to cry about getting smashed. We did and put the hours to get where we are and now they tear it all down again. Strait BS.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gomumon

Mackin365 wrote: »

After reading these notes O wish I had not bought the Morrowind update and think I will just quit playing the game. Every time I get to a point were my stamina character can breath they mess with everything and screw it up. So many hours invested and money and all they do is mess it up for the folks who put in the time to get where they are so the lowbies dont need to cry about getting smashed. We did and put the hours to get where we are and now they tear it all down again. Strait BS.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Demand a refund for your Pre-Order! Lots of people have been able to get theirs.

MyKillv2.0

I get the feeling most people (not all) just coming on to the forums and passively complain, just to throw it out there that they consider themselves "elite".

Oh and another favorite, " I have played since beta". If that's the case then you remember a time when resource management was worse than no matter what Update 3.0 turns out to become.

R1DD1CK

ESO is Dying .

davey1107

I've been playing since the PS4 release. This is probably the worst set of patch notes I've ever seen go to PTS. I'm not trying to be dramatic. But I have vets of each class and resource approach. These notes make every single character I feel are overly powerful even more powerful, and they make the weaker characters even weaker.

Worst offenders:

Stam abilities didn't need to be made more expensive compared to magic. Magic has endless resource regen abilities and doesn't use their attack pool to dodge and block. My stam toons run low...magic toons never do. This change stinks.

Siphoning attacks: NBs didn't need health return. We get that from endless other sources. What we do need is a way to return EFFING STAMINA since we don't have sets that give us 8,000 every proc, or staminasteal, or anything like that. I'm sorry...what a pathetic change. And right when you're nerfing resource consumption in general. Unacceptable.

Repentance: this was an important ability that helped make stam builds maybe almost viable in end game pve. They're totally not competitive. I'm tired of breezing through trials on my magplar and getting destroyed on my stamblade. This change further disincentivizes stam in trials.

Rilmarshim

waitwhat wrote: »

and the caltrops change will provide an effective group counter to the zergs that all proxy up and charge in with Eye of Flame while casting ritual/mutagen/healing springs/breath of life while wearing desert rose and rattlecage.

Omg, i need my LOL button asap, I just can't stand it. Just don't. Stop. Stop talking about pvp.

Marabornwingrion

R1DD1CK wrote: »

ESO is Dying .

If it's dying, go to the funeral, say goodbye and stop spamming this sh*t.

knifeinthedark

masterbroodub17_ESO wrote: »

Right, game is dead eh? Might as well jump ship now! /bye

Strawman much? Never said the game is dead.

I did say this patch is ridiculous (it is) and the warden will be overall better than the other classes (it will) and that players like me that have been pretty dedicated to difficult content will likely reduce play significantly or stop altogether.

I'm sure there will be plenty of nostalgia seeking buyers that will keep the game alive, but just because it's alive, doesn't mean it isn't garbage.

masterbroodub17_ESO

knifeinthedark wrote: »

masterbroodub17_ESO wrote: »

Right, game is dead eh? Might as well jump ship now! /bye

Strawman much? Never said the game is dead.

I did say this patch is ridiculous (it is) and the warden will be overall better than the other classes (it will) and that players like me that have been pretty dedicated to difficult content will likely reduce play significantly or stop altogether.

I'm sure there will be plenty of nostalgia seeking buyers that will keep the game alive, but just because it's alive, doesn't mean it isn't garbage.

Which is why you should leave. Simple logic.

ohanlon1213

Zenimax just can't get this "improvement" thing right. Improvements doesn't mean destroy all the classes to make fix overpowered classes. Personally I don't think any classes are op, it's simply that some people play their classes very well. If you are complaining that a class is op then you just aren't very good; it's a learn to play issue. Now that all the current classes are obsolete, the warden is going to be the class that all you cry-babies will be complaining about. But seriously, props to Zenimax for having the balls to post such disgusting patch notes to the public.

WeylandLabs

Gawd Dayum ppl still complaining ? Challenge yourselves a bit its a videogame...

CrazySonoran

A sign flashes across your screen as you load the first time after updating to Morrowind "All of your character have been deleted, please create a Warden to continue playing, all stat and skill points have been refunded"

D0ntevenL1ft

CrazySonoran wrote: »

A sign flashes across your screen as you load the first time after updating to Morrowind "All of your character have been deleted, please create a Warden to continue playing, all stat and skill points have been refunded"

Im hoping this happens except it also reads "We have refunded all the money you have wasted on this game by choosing a class we don't want to support".

Juhasow

Fasala gets nerf but Blessed doesnt ? Both are equally cancerous and both should have some nerf.

Gomumon

ohanlon1213 wrote: »

Zenimax just can't get this "improvement" thing right.

Right? You'd think by their 3rd anniversary of still trying to balance everything they'd realize that the issue with PVP (because we all know NOBODY is asking for a harder time in PVE) is that people are using the same moves meant to kill 4,000,000+ HP monsters on each other.

Create a seperate PVP meta. Give skills dedicated PVP morphs that will do the desired amount/type of damage to players. Create a different formula/stats for player damage than for monster damage, so sets like Netch's touch will see more play than Rattlecage/BSW/Spinner's/Clever Alch... Give us gear that adds damage to or mitigates damage from other players (i.e. make Nirnhoned the PVP equivalent of Sharpened).

At least this way, if something is broken or overpowered in PVP, you can adjust it without pissing off the dedicated PVE community. I guarantee people in Cyrodiil/Battlegrounds will still find something to exploit faster than you guys start working on your next chapter of ESO. Which reminds me, if you don't nerf Damage Magicka IX poisons, you're going to get a LOT of complaints.

mainarhont

Missing maxillum facial animation and sound at NPC

- In all quest dialogues










Further "mute" NPC continue to spread? Or is it enough? I think on this long list of screenshots it is clear that every second is such. I'm just checking the storyline in the Vvardenfell.

Missing texture in two Classic houses:

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For some reason they did that the character is now CONSTANTLY taking up arms, no matter how much I cleaned it. After each entry / exit to / from the room, after each teleportation, constantly. In the meantime, I asked to make a setting so that you could turn on the weapon automatically or not, and hide it after how many seconds, if the option is enabled.

On mounts, I wrote, with the screenshot attachment, that there is an animation problem - when a player rides on a mount he runs on it. With the mount that was presented in the screenshot, the problem seems to be corrected, but what about the rest? In addition to guar, horses and some other types of mounts also suffer from this problem. Camels, for example.

Another request: Make animal behavior more natural, as in a natural habitat.
For example: A deer runs along the meadow, and a sench-tiger (or a lion) lies nearby or a rabbit skips the glade, a wolf walks nearby...
Predators (wolf, lion, fox, sench-tiger, etc.) should respond to the victim (mouse, rabbit, deer, etc.) appropriately, as in real life.
Saw - potential prey - began to hunt. Caught - either gobbled up on the spot, or dragged to the den (for the bear) well, etc.
This in my opinion would very much revive the game world.

craftycarper73

the one thing that makes me happy about all this, i never pre ordered morrowind... the likely hood is that i wont be buying it. feel sorry for those casual players that have been duped into pre ordering, for them to be *** on from a great height.

Nifty2g

ku5h

Dr_Talos wrote: »

waitwhat wrote: »

and the caltrops change will provide an effective group counter to the zergs that all proxy up and charge in with Eye of Flame while casting ritual/mutagen/healing springs/breath of life while wearing desert rose and rattlecage.

Omg, i need my LOL button asap, I just can't stand it. Just don't. Stop. Stop talking about pvp.

Why? Because you dont PvP , somehow it's not important?! Instead you PvEers should stop crying about how PvPers ruin your game every patch.

REAPERZ92

they nerf the cp so all us people that do pve wont be able to do end game because your nerfing all sustain gg zos rip eso

Kay1

Valera Progib wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

Swernik wrote: »

PLEASE fix the streak bug of sorcerers!!!!!!!

Why? You realize 2 streaks will cost you the 30% of your Magicka pool (if you only have 39k) once the patch goes live?

They can keep it like that no one will use that skill anymore lol.

Mate, stop crying. Try some real skill Azura campaign and learn how to play. It is pathetic to see a good player behave like that.

We have a different meaning of the word skill, for me using 3 skills and spamming heavy attacks is not skilled.

Azura is crowded of people with proc sets (Morrowind will be crowded and proc sets will make a big comeback) so for me is not skilled at all.

I also feel punished, not to play in Azura because no CP are fine right now with the current sustain but once Morrowind hits no CP campaign will just be a HA one shot place, I feel punished that someone like me who can do 3 skills in 3 seconds, dodge roll, heal, exploit a mechanic (bash) is pretty much getting nerfed while bad players won't feel the difference (In PvP of course, in PvE bad and average players are pretty much the only ones affected).

AuT6GHad

1. +
I really like the changes made in the CP System. I hope that this will make the content a bit harder, which would mean funnier in my opinion. Furthermore the more frontloaded system will make the gap closer between new players and veterans. These changes seem to be a step in the right direction.

2. +
I love the buff and debuff trackers!

3. +
The reduced cooldown for blocking will definitely make tanking more challenging. This should be a good move, because thus far it was hard for tanks to run out of stamina anyway.

4. +
I like the immunity to immobilizations after Roll Dodge.

5. +
To make Stamina abilities more expensive seems OK for me.

6. -
The Battle Roar nerf sucks! It is the only way to sustain for DK DD’s. If you want to nerf this passive it should be a buff if the maximum resource is below 30,000.

7. -
The nerf of the Helping Hands passive is too much as well. If you want to nerf this passive it should be a buff if the maximum resource is below 27,000.

8. -
I don’t like the changes you made to gain the Major Mending buff. In my opinion the ways to gain the buff should stay the same, but I can understand that this buff is too strong. A solution to this would be to reduce the healing done of Major Mending to 15%.

9. +/-
I like the change of Leeching Strike, but I can’t understand the nerf of Siphoning Attacks. Magicka NB is the weakest class in PVE anyway.

10. -
I hate the changes you made to the Shards. It makes no sense that these unique class abilities benefits should now be accessible to every class (Necrotic Orb). The shared cooldown with the Necrotic Orb synergy is therefore crap. It would be more skill-based if Shards restore Stamina and orb Magicka. If you want to nerf these skills, just reduce the amount of resources they restore.

11.
I do not like the Repentance change, but if you let the Shards as they are, it seems OK for me.

12. -
Rushed Ceremony should be an “oh ***” heal, if some drops fast. Therefore it should heal around you, but maybe more expensive.

13. -
Do not change the Sacred Ground passive. Just reduce the buff of Major Mending.

14. -
The nerf of the Constitution passive seems to be too high. Instead I would nerf the Wrath passive. Tanks should not do damage that’s a pain in the ass in PVP.

15. -
The increased cost of Vigor is a pain in the ass, since it is the only Stamina-based heal.

16. +
I like the Caltrops changes.

17. -
Do not nerf Redguards again.

ravenwendigo

As a templar healer I am totally gutted!!

Vapirko

redspecter23 wrote: »

At first glance I'm seeing a load of nerfs. Less sustain, less damage (mighty nerf), less defense (hearty, elemental defender nerf). I'll be looking closely for some buffs and hopefully my character doesn't feel like a shadow of his former self.

ZOS, You've said in the past that you are against buffs to weaker abilities in order to bring them up to the power level of stronger abilities because you'd constantly have to rebalance content to match power creep. Well, with the triple whammy of nerfs listed above, why are you not also feeling as though you have to power down content in order to compensate for nerfs?

Long story short, if my characters feel less powerful after the update than they did before, why should I feel any desire to progress between updates when it feel futile to do so?

Also, no trait rebalance. No token systems. No word on RNG insanity. Pain points are still there but it seems you've focused quite heavily on the nerf hammer this update without any help with some of the issues that are big issues from players I talk to every day.

Couldn't agree more. It's just awful planning. They did not listen to anything we, as a group, asked for.

t3hdubzy

@ZOS_GinaBruno


In the future would prefer small incremental changes monthly, rather than sweeping changes that cause everyone to rebuild their whole charachter and feel like they are playing a different game. Lets leave that for expansions, dlc, or whatever.

Have you all thought about using some lean six sigma tools to measure performance and in order to make adjustments and track whether the result is within the desired range or out of control?

This would be helpful for making small changes over time, rather than sweeping changes as a result of several systems being out of control.

Id be curious to see a changelog on individual skills and classes.

Docmandu

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Reduced the duration of the charge snare to 0.5 seconds from 0.75 seconds, and reduced the effectiveness of the charge snare to a 30% snare from 60%.
Developer Comments:

Reducing the duration and strength of the charge snare ensures that charge abilities still reliably reach their target while making it less punishing for the charge victim, especially if they are being charged by multiple different enemies.

Seriously... @Wrobel and Team (or whoever is in charge of that decision) should be FORCED to sit behind their gaming PC and play their own god damn game for once... this stuff is so broken, half the time you can't move.. no matter if you use immovability potions, shuffle, immovable, roll dodge, or even have CC immunity.

People that think that new Coward set will be fun will be seriously disappointed.

Kalebron

BillNye_Eso wrote: »

Kalebron wrote: »

One change is all they need to do. GET RID of animation canceling!

Animation cancelling is a part of the game, not their fault if you cant keep up

Obviously you have not read any of the posts. They want a way to bridge a gao between new and old players. This would be the way to do it and then you would get to see real skills and no blaming it on anmination canceling.

Detector

Morrowind - cool.
New balance - it's big nerf for veterans and i hate this...