BoL nerf? Ever?!?!?

Ohhgrizyyy

Gonna sound like a cry baby but really grinds my gears on a magsorc to burst down a heavy armor templar them be in execute range just to hit Bol once and go all the way back up to full....And it's PvP and heals are supposed to be cut in half? Will BoL ever see any kind of nerf or are we gonna leave magplars to be the most frustrating and annoying classes to play against in pvp?

Avran_Sylt

Burst them down without CC. then CC and execute.

use an armor set like: Fasalla's Guile or Crest of Cyrodill or Durok's Bane

Backbar Lethal Arrow for the poison proc, or poison enchantment, put points into the Befoul CP tree. use player made poisons that reduce healing taken.

Ohhgrizyyy

Well I'm a Magsorc or main a magsorc so literally none of this works for me minus the cc part lol

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Burst them down without CC. then CC and execute.

use an armor set like: Fasalla's Guile or Crest of Cyrodill or Durok's Bane

Backbar Lethal Arrow for the poison proc, or poison enchantment, put points into the Befoul CP tree. use player made poisons that reduce healing taken.

Moloch1514

It's been nerfed. They even reduced how many people were healed.

DRXHarbinger

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Burst them down without CC. then CC and execute.

use an armor set like: Fasalla's Guile or Crest of Cyrodill or Durok's Bane

Backbar Lethal Arrow for the poison proc, or poison enchantment, put points into the Befoul CP tree. use player made poisons that reduce healing taken.

^said magsorc. Lethal arrow is going to harm anyone.

But op as the rest of it. Wear them put first then at 50% go for the frag and wrath and finally streak into them.

Don't use frags straight away. When it procs suck up a heavy and wait for them to dodge...when they dodge and come back up then frag them back them down and go fo it. Main reason you're failing is you're ccing too early. Make them use than stam first in someway. They all have poor recovery.

danno8

You know how frustrating it is to be a Magplar and manage to burst down a Sorc to half health with our sub-par burst capabilities, only to have them hit HW once and cover their whole health bar with a shield and teleport away, over and over again.

Or to never actually be able to get through the shield(s) in the first place?

I ain't calling for a nerf though.

Avran_Sylt

so, you want to be able to burst both tanks, and squishies?

Apherius

what is Bol plz ?

Ohhgrizyyy

Moloch1514 wrote: »

It's been nerfed. They even reduced how many people were healed.

Well it's still insane, Literally made this post cause I went through my rotation twice on a 30k heavy magplar, For him to hit Bol once to heal him from about 10% all the way back to full.

Ohhgrizyyy

Apherius wrote: »

what is Bol plz ?

Breath of Life

ArgonianAustin

Apherius wrote: »

what is Bol plz ?

Breath of life

Ohhgrizyyy

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Burst them down without CC. then CC and execute.

use an armor set like: Fasalla's Guile or Crest of Cyrodill or Durok's Bane

Backbar Lethal Arrow for the poison proc, or poison enchantment, put points into the Befoul CP tree. use player made poisons that reduce healing taken.

^said magsorc. Lethal arrow is going to harm anyone.

But op as the rest of it. Wear them put first then at 50% go for the frag and wrath and finally streak into them.

Don't use frags straight away. When it procs suck up a heavy and wait for them to dodge...when they dodge and come back up then frag them back them down and go fo it. Main reason you're failing is you're ccing too early. Make them use than stam first in someway. They all have poor recovery.

Thanks for the tips

BRogueNZ

defile and burn their stamina, um maybe use NEGATE

everyone around them is dead if you've pressured them into self preservation

usmcjdking

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

Gonna sound like a cry baby but really grinds my gears on a magsorc to burst down a heavy armor templar them be in execute range just to hit Bol once and go all the way back up to full....And it's PvP and heals are supposed to be cut in half? Will BoL ever see any kind of nerf or are we gonna leave magplars to be the most frustrating and annoying classes to play against in pvp?

OP.

This is a function of the passive Vengeance which will guarantee a critical if they block 3 instances of magical damage. There is a thread in the Alliance War forums regarding it.

Ohhgrizyyy

usmcjdking wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

Gonna sound like a cry baby but really grinds my gears on a magsorc to burst down a heavy armor templar them be in execute range just to hit Bol once and go all the way back up to full....And it's PvP and heals are supposed to be cut in half? Will BoL ever see any kind of nerf or are we gonna leave magplars to be the most frustrating and annoying classes to play against in pvp?

OP.

This is a function of the passive Vengeance which will guarantee a critical if they block 3 instances of magical damage. There is a thread in the Alliance War forums regarding it.

That's the problem he didn't block ***, I knocked him on his ass and got him to 10% for him to stand up before I could finish him off and heal to full. So idk

Turelus

Moloch1514 wrote: »

It's been nerfed. They even reduced how many people were healed.

I missed the days of old BoL.

strikeback1247

Apherius wrote: »

what is Bol plz ?

Ball of lightning

idk

I really find it interesting how some complain about Sorc shield stacking and now a sorc is complaining about another class.

It seems that PvP is not as simple as just done some DPS like in PvE and not every players is so easy to kill. Takes figuring out how to approach the situation, not posting in the forums.

It is also interesting seeing this post since some have said magsorc is OP in PvP recently.

Here is one of those threads. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/328639/is-it-just-me-or-are-magika-sorcs-the-best-for-both-pvp-and-pve-now

Smmokkee

BoL getting defense? Lol are you kidding me. You can literally stand there and just spam bol and be damn near unlikable. It's way to easy to use and way to effective for how easy it is to use.

I'm sorry but magplar is broke, you can build to do it all with no downside. It's just funny you guys can defend it.

The guy who said to put lethal arrow on.. LOL. Lethal arrow is pointless against magplars and the healing reduction cp barely scratches their healing capabilities.

If we are gonna leave bol how it is make it so the player that is spamming it has cost increase just like from roll dodging and also make it so they can't be staring at a wall pressing one button and being damn near unkillable.

Acrolas

Don't go chasing Templar walls,
Just stick to the mag DKs and Blades that you're used to.

Lynx7386

Remind me to never use breath of life when I heal your dungeon groups

Ohhgrizyyy

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Remind me to never use breath of life when I heal your dungeon groups

I specifically said for PvP, It should full heal in dungeons sure. But in PvP it's way too strong. It either needs increased cost or how sorcs streak works it gradually gets more and more expensive the more you spam it

Moloch1514

Just remember that a lot of us PVE most of the time, and these threads take away all of our toys over time. Obviously the best solution is to completely separate PvP from PvE for balancing, but 3 years later that ship has sailed.

Ohhgrizyyy

I stated it's broken for PvP, In Pve it's fine but cause that's honestly not really as competitive content, Yes you have trials but in trials it revolves around healing springs alot, PvP it revolves around BoL spamming everyone to full health and it's incredibly broken

Smmokkee

Moloch1514 wrote: »

Just remember that a lot of us PVE most of the time, and these threads take away all of our toys over time. Obviously the best solution is to completely separate PvP from PvE for balancing, but 3 years later that ship has sailed.

Maybe at a time the majority of players were into pve but, coming from the Xbox community it really seems pve has taken a back seat to the pvp community. Especially when trials can have worse performance then Cyrodiil.

I always see people posting that pve is more popular but I just don't see it. At least on the Xbox na.

BRogueNZ

Smmokkee wrote: »

BoL getting defense? Lol are you kidding me. You can literally stand there and just spam bol and be damn near unlikable. It's way to easy to use and way to effective for how easy it is to use.

I'm sorry but magplar is broke, you can build to do it all with no downside. It's just funny you guys can defend it.

The guy who said to put lethal arrow on.. LOL. Lethal arrow is pointless against magplars and the healing reduction cp barely scratches their healing capabilities.

If we are gonna leave bol how it is make it so the player that is spamming it has cost increase just like from roll dodging and also make it so they can't be staring at a wall pressing one button and being damn near unkillable.

Considering the focus healers get are you surprised they turn tank?
As I mentioned above you're free to ignore them most of the time if you're group separates and focus other targets down first. That's the counter if they won't go down, wailing away on them, all you're probably doing is giving them wrath and resources while the DD's they run with wreck your allies.

Syrani

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

I stated it's broken for PvP, In Pve it's fine but cause that's honestly not really as competitive content, Yes you have trials but in trials it revolves around healing springs alot, PvP it revolves around BoL spamming everyone to full health and it's incredibly broken

Except in this game, when something gets nerfed for PVP, it's nerfed for everyone - even PVE. They don't separate the two.

Smmokkee

Syrani wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

I stated it's broken for PvP, In Pve it's fine but cause that's honestly not really as competitive content, Yes you have trials but in trials it revolves around healing springs alot, PvP it revolves around BoL spamming everyone to full health and it's incredibly broken

Except in this game, when something gets nerfed for PVP, it's nerfed for everyone - even PVE. They don't separate the two.

I think pve would manage if bol was given a increased cost the more you cast it consecutively.

Smmokkee

BRogueNZ wrote: »

Smmokkee wrote: »

BoL getting defense? Lol are you kidding me. You can literally stand there and just spam bol and be damn near unlikable. It's way to easy to use and way to effective for how easy it is to use.

I'm sorry but magplar is broke, you can build to do it all with no downside. It's just funny you guys can defend it.

The guy who said to put lethal arrow on.. LOL. Lethal arrow is pointless against magplars and the healing reduction cp barely scratches their healing capabilities.

If we are gonna leave bol how it is make it so the player that is spamming it has cost increase just like from roll dodging and also make it so they can't be staring at a wall pressing one button and being damn near unkillable.

Considering the focus healers get are you surprised they turn tank?
As I mentioned above you're free to ignore them most of the time if you're group separates and focus other targets down first. That's the counter if they won't go down, wailing away on them, all you're probably doing is giving them wrath and resources while the DD's they run with wreck your allies.

They turned tank and kept their awesome healing capabilities with more survivabiltity, sustain and good damage.. tell me again how that isn't broke.

Syrani

Smmokkee wrote: »

Syrani wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

I stated it's broken for PvP, In Pve it's fine but cause that's honestly not really as competitive content, Yes you have trials but in trials it revolves around healing springs alot, PvP it revolves around BoL spamming everyone to full health and it's incredibly broken

Except in this game, when something gets nerfed for PVP, it's nerfed for everyone - even PVE. They don't separate the two.

I think pve would manage if bol was given a increased cost the more you cast it consecutively.

And I think PVP can manage without a nerf.

Ohhgrizyyy

Syrani wrote: »

Smmokkee wrote: »

Syrani wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

I stated it's broken for PvP, In Pve it's fine but cause that's honestly not really as competitive content, Yes you have trials but in trials it revolves around healing springs alot, PvP it revolves around BoL spamming everyone to full health and it's incredibly broken

Except in this game, when something gets nerfed for PVP, it's nerfed for everyone - even PVE. They don't separate the two.

I think pve would manage if bol was given a increased cost the more you cast it consecutively.

And I think PVP can manage without a nerf.

Probably because you're a templar lmfao, If you play enough PvP and find a small group with a templar are even a 2 man group with a templar and you're running solo, You're not killing that said Templar. Guarantee you're one of these I'm complaining about cause no Templar would want this nerf.