Vet Maw of Lorkhaj - Broken on Xbox One AGAIN!!!!!

Lascelly · May 2017

Thanks @OGNZ3, It's not exactly fun being accused of glitching VMoL when you've put the time and effort in beforehand to practice the trial and learn it and complete it. With that said I don't know how people are going to get to complete the content now little alone practice it with not only the current DC's, but the addition of having to relearn strategies to make up for the hit to sustain with Morrowind. Just kinda bites for those that have been practising Hard Mode or Vet or even just Normal for their first time to not be able to do anything or make any progress. =(

Tostiee · May 2017

OGNZ3 wrote: »

I have unfortunately to disagree with some says : vMoL is actually doable for teams that have already done with it, but absolutely not for teams that don't know mechanics / that haven't try hard on it.

But don't say that "everybody s glitching it on XBL" : all the guys that you can see in the vMoL leaderboard have done it by theirselves, WITH all the DCs and the freezes.
Please don't call us glitchers

And I have to disagree with you, far from all the teams that have done it before cant do it now. It is "doable" if RNG favours you. For us one of our tanks always seem to crash and the second tank often aswell in vMoL so not that doable then is it?

Feanor · May 2017

With 20k DPS that Rhakkat fight is just a little over an hour if math serves. Not as bad as I thought but still too tedious.

KingJ · May 2017

Feanor wrote: »

With 20k DPS that Rhakkat fight is just a little over an hour if math serves. Not as bad as I thought but still too tedious.

@Feanor you don't do they fight alone you can have your whole team there with you.

MrFish024 · May 2017

OGNZ3 wrote: »

I have unfortunately to disagree with some says : vMoL is actually doable for teams that have already done with it, but absolutely not for teams that don't know mechanics / that haven't try hard on it.

But don't say that "everybody s glitching it on XBL" : all the guys that you can see in the vMoL leaderboard have done it by theirselves, WITH all the DCs and the freezes.
Please don't call us glitchers

Well I am one of the few groups that have beaten without glitching since it was broke. No need to attack me for saying that everybody is glitching it. 95% of people you see in vmol on Xbox right now are sorcs streaking their way through the chest. That's about everyone.

Feanor · May 2017

@KingJ

I wouldn't know. I'm no glitch expert and I don't even own an XBox. I was just assuming people are doing this on their own like in those old exploits that were apparently fixed.

DRXHarbinger · May 2017

OGNZ3 wrote: »

I have unfortunately to disagree with some says : vMoL is actually doable for teams that have already done with it, but absolutely not for teams that don't know mechanics / that haven't try hard on it.

But don't say that "everybody s glitching it on XBL" : all the guys that you can see in the vMoL leaderboard have done it by theirselves, WITH all the DCs and the freezes.
Please don't call us glitchers

Ignore them dude. Glitchers do not get a score and do not get the skin unless the twins and all other bosses are killed anyway. Said this *** knows how many times but people believe what they want to. I repeat from experience you do not get a score lol. Skin others have said the same.

KingJ · May 2017

Feanor wrote: »

@KingJ

I wouldn't know. I'm no glitch expert and I don't even own an XBox. I was just assuming people are doing this on their own like in those old exploits that were apparently fixed.

I didn't know this was possible until a guild mate told me about it. Didn't believe him at first until he showed me. Its crazy how they didnt actually fix the trial or remove the invisible wall.

Ballzy321 · May 2017

You can't get on ldrboards glitching mol relax guy.

MrFish024 · May 2017

Ballzy321 wrote: »

You can't get on ldrboards glitching mol relax guy.

This thread isn't a complaint about glitching, it's a thread about how vmol has been unplayable for over 75 days.

Ballzy321 · May 2017

MrFish024 wrote: »

Ballzy321 wrote: »

You can't get on ldrboards glitching mol relax guy.

This thread isn't a complaint about glitching, it's a thread about how vmol has been unplayable for over 75 days.

Really? No way thanks for the clarification

Feanor · May 2017

@MrFish024

How the time flies when you're having a good time. Oh wait...

Orbital · May 2017

Lascelly wrote: »

Thanks @OGNZ3, It's not exactly fun being accused of glitching VMoL when you've put the time and effort in beforehand to practice the trial and learn it and complete it. With that said I don't know how people are going to get to complete the content now little alone practice it with not only the current DC's, but the addition of having to relearn strategies to make up for the hit to sustain with Morrowind. Just kinda bites for those that have been practising Hard Mode or Vet or even just Normal for their first time to not be able to do anything or make any progress. =(

i second this,
and i would like to play vmol on console, im almost max on pc ffs

OGNZ3 · May 2017

Tostiee wrote: »

OGNZ3 wrote: »

I have unfortunately to disagree with some says : vMoL is actually doable for teams that have already done with it, but absolutely not for teams that don't know mechanics / that haven't try hard on it.

But don't say that "everybody s glitching it on XBL" : all the guys that you can see in the vMoL leaderboard have done it by theirselves, WITH all the DCs and the freezes.
Please don't call us glitchers

And I have to disagree with you, far from all the teams that have done it before cant do it now. It is "doable" if RNG favours you. For us one of our tanks always seem to crash and the second tank often aswell in vMoL so not that doable then is it?

And i will disagree with you again because when we beat it one week ago, our main tank get more than 30 DCs just himself, on a run with a 53 total DCs (more than the half of DCs taken by one guy, gg).
So I don't care about RNG (maybe cause I do vMA since it released and still don't have any sharpened staff - neither light or fire), we are just burning head guys that wanted to give the skin to 8 people.

Anyway, I ABSOLUTELY DONT EXCUSE the incompetence of Zenimax staff. I was just saying "don't call any Xbox commmunity guy that do vMoL : a glitcher"

pod88kk · May 2017

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be: of merchantable quality. fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable. ... When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him.

Just going to leave this here. Have a nice day everyone

DRXHarbinger · May 2017

pod88kk wrote: »

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be: of merchantable quality. fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable. ... When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him.

Just going to leave this here. Have a nice day everyone

Yeah ms will refund all eso plus fees since Feb due to this. No problems there.

Orbital · May 2017

bumpity boo

DPShiro · May 2017

Closing in on 100 days, will we get an update, an apology or even some compensation?

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Xylphan · May 2017

pod88kk wrote: »

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be: of merchantable quality. fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable. ... When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him.

Just going to leave this here. Have a nice day everyone

Which has no applicability in this case.

You do not OWN anything. You don't own the game. You don't own anything in the game. You don't own your characters. If you bought a hard copy, you own the box and the media but that's it.

What you have paid for is a LICENSE. It has more in common with a theme park ticket. You can ride the rides, but you don't OWN the rides. You have to obey the rules if you want to keep riding the rides. And of course, there's zero guarantee that everything will work.

This is where reading the ToS and license agreement come in handy. Unless there is a specific clause in there that gives guaranteed uptimes, turnaround times on bugs, etc. or somehow grants you ownership then you don't have any legal to stand on.

Games aren't 5 9's (otherwise they'd cost thousands of dollars) and expecting them to have similar clauses is pretty silly. If you don't like the terms of the license, then don't spend the cash. But there isn't a single MMO out there that doesn't have the same boilerplate agreement in place.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · May 2017

Ballzy321 wrote: »

You can't get on ldrboards glitching mol relax guy.

You can get leaderboards solo but I don't think it gives skin.

Orbital · May 2017

DPShiro wrote: »

Closing in on 100 days, will we get an update, an apology or even some compensation?

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

DjMuscleboy02 · May 2017

Bumping back to front page

Can't wait for this to be fixed come June, the new trial will be awesome too. I think it has a good chance to revive the console raiding community. loljk we ded

OutLaw_Nynx · May 2017

This is terrible. I thought PS4 was bad but this sounds 10000x worse over on xbox. I'm sorry you guys aren't able to play content you paid for.

NeuroAutonomy · May 2017

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

This is terrible. I thought PS4 was bad but this sounds 10000x worse over on xbox. I'm sorry you guys aren't able to play content you paid for.

Yea it's been pretty depressing actually and then with the rumour that the new trial is already broken on test consoles and the early release for pc when they stated all platforms would get it at the same time, not to forget the beta testing mix up. Add all of that to the current state of trials and group finder, along with the current anxiety over the new expansion and people thinking they're going to leave, it's a mess honestly.

Feanor · May 2017

Xylphan wrote: »

pod88kk wrote: »

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be: of merchantable quality. fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable. ... When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him.

Just going to leave this here. Have a nice day everyone

Which has no applicability in this case.

You do not OWN anything. You don't own the game. You don't own anything in the game. You don't own your characters. If you bought a hard copy, you own the box and the media but that's it.

What you have paid for is a LICENSE. It has more in common with a theme park ticket. You can ride the rides, but you don't OWN the rides. You have to obey the rules if you want to keep riding the rides. And of course, there's zero guarantee that everything will work.

This is where reading the ToS and license agreement come in handy. Unless there is a specific clause in there that gives guaranteed uptimes, turnaround times on bugs, etc. or somehow grants you ownership then you don't have any legal to stand on.

Games aren't 5 9's (otherwise they'd cost thousands of dollars) and expecting them to have similar clauses is pretty silly. If you don't like the terms of the license, then don't spend the cash. But there isn't a single MMO out there that doesn't have the same boilerplate agreement in place.

Law is one thing. Decency another.

pod88kk · May 2017

Xylphan wrote: »

pod88kk wrote: »

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be: of merchantable quality. fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable. ... When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him.

Just going to leave this here. Have a nice day everyone

Which has no applicability in this case.

You do not OWN anything. You don't own the game. You don't own anything in the game. You don't own your characters. If you bought a hard copy, you own the box and the media but that's it.

What you have paid for is a LICENSE. It has more in common with a theme park ticket. You can ride the rides, but you don't OWN the rides. You have to obey the rules if you want to keep riding the rides. And of course, there's zero guarantee that everything will work.

This is where reading the ToS and license agreement come in handy. Unless there is a specific clause in there that gives guaranteed uptimes, turnaround times on bugs, etc. or somehow grants you ownership then you don't have any legal to stand on.

Games aren't 5 9's (otherwise they'd cost thousands of dollars) and expecting them to have similar clauses is pretty silly. If you don't like the terms of the license, then don't spend the cash. But there isn't a single MMO out there that doesn't have the same boilerplate agreement in place.

You sir/madam have earned yourself an "insightful"

DRXHarbinger · May 2017

Xylphan wrote: »

pod88kk wrote: »

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be: of merchantable quality. fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable. ... When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him.

Just going to leave this here. Have a nice day everyone

Which has no applicability in this case.

You do not OWN anything. You don't own the game. You don't own anything in the game. You don't own your characters. If you bought a hard copy, you own the box and the media but that's it.

What you have paid for is a LICENSE. It has more in common with a theme park ticket. You can ride the rides, but you don't OWN the rides. You have to obey the rules if you want to keep riding the rides. And of course, there's zero guarantee that everything will work.

This is where reading the ToS and license agreement come in handy. Unless there is a specific clause in there that gives guaranteed uptimes, turnaround times on bugs, etc. or somehow grants you ownership then you don't have any legal to stand on.

Games aren't 5 9's (otherwise they'd cost thousands of dollars) and expecting them to have similar clauses is pretty silly. If you don't like the terms of the license, then don't spend the cash. But there isn't a single MMO out there that doesn't have the same boilerplate agreement in place.

So if you buy a track or video from Google Play, and it doesn't work you aren't entitled to a refund.

Seriously please sit down, you know nothing. ZOS staff detected.

Fit for purpose is fit for purpose, Not fit then refund required. MS already refunded me all my sub money since Homestead launch due to this.

KingJ · May 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Finn can we please have update on a fix this is ridiculous.

KingJ · May 2017

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom update

TARAFRAKA · May 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Xylphan wrote: »

pod88kk wrote: »

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be: of merchantable quality. fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable. ... When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him.

Just going to leave this here. Have a nice day everyone

Which has no applicability in this case.

You do not OWN anything. You don't own the game. You don't own anything in the game. You don't own your characters. If you bought a hard copy, you own the box and the media but that's it.

What you have paid for is a LICENSE. It has more in common with a theme park ticket. You can ride the rides, but you don't OWN the rides. You have to obey the rules if you want to keep riding the rides. And of course, there's zero guarantee that everything will work.

This is where reading the ToS and license agreement come in handy. Unless there is a specific clause in there that gives guaranteed uptimes, turnaround times on bugs, etc. or somehow grants you ownership then you don't have any legal to stand on.

Games aren't 5 9's (otherwise they'd cost thousands of dollars) and expecting them to have similar clauses is pretty silly. If you don't like the terms of the license, then don't spend the cash. But there isn't a single MMO out there that doesn't have the same boilerplate agreement in place.

So if you buy a track or video from Google Play, and it doesn't work you aren't entitled to a refund.

Seriously please sit down, you know nothing. ZOS staff detected.

Fit for purpose is fit for purpose, Not fit then refund required. MS already refunded me all my sub money since Homestead launch due to this.

Is this really true? I heard somewhere that if you get a refund for your subscription Zenimax will ban your account because essentially you got the service of the subscription and got your money back afterwards?