Cyrodiil Performance Test and Double AP Event

Feanor · October 2017

It’s great Zos never published their conclusions.

MajBludd · December 2018

So, how are those test going?

MajBludd · December 2018

@Feanor conclusion, we can't fix it

VaranisArano · December 2018

While I laud your committment to getting answers from ZOS, I suspect the answer is that they dont like NECRO'd posts from October 2017

amir412 · December 2018

Hey @ZOS_BrianWheeler Here is an update about how ur performance fix worked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgbaotKCFmQ

Juhasow · December 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

While I laud your committment to getting answers from ZOS, I suspect the answer is that they dont like NECRO'd posts from October 2017

Well the issue is still here for some people possibly bigger then in october 2017. Not much have changed since then when it comes to poor server performance and if something have changed then for worse.

Starlight_Knight · December 2018

Man i read this and thought it was "recent" and the devs were saying something about the LAG... but nope silent treatment as normal.

Lord_Wrath · December 2018

Feanor wrote: »

It’s great Zos never published their conclusions.

From last year LOL

Trancestor · December 2018

Hahahahaha

Vapirko · December 2018

Conclusion: CP is not the issue.
ZOS: Well, we’re out of ideas.

frozywozy · December 2018

Juhasow · December 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

Conclusion: CP is not the issue.
ZOS: Well, we’re out of ideas.

I think it was more like :
Conclussion : Lack of CP lowers the lag
ZoS : That's unfair we need to increase lag in non CP campaigns

idk · December 2018

Feanor wrote: »

It’s great Zos never published their conclusions.

Not sure why anyone expected Zos to publish the findings. It seems pretty obvious lag was horrible during the test. That spoke extremely loud. I think some are grabbing at straws here.

Vapirko wrote: »

Conclusion: CP is not the issue.
ZOS: Well, we’re out of ideas.

Some do see it clearly.

Durham · December 2018

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Xvorg · December 2018

Durham wrote: »

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Camelot Unchained is the biggest threat to ESO and ZoS failed to see it. 4 years ago there were people talking about it and we all knew what was going to happen when it was officially launched.

ZoS had 4 years to fix the lag, instead they took the easy route of selling chapter after chapter. CU is now just around the corner... and there's no way ESO will dare to compete against that monster.

Glory · December 2018

Xvorg wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Camelot Unchained is the biggest threat to ESO and ZoS failed to see it. 4 years ago there were people talking about it and we all knew what was going to happen when it was officially launched.

ZoS had 4 years to fix the lag, instead they took the easy route of selling chapter after chapter. CU is now just around the corner... and there's no way ESO will dare to compete against that monster.

If CU ever comes out

Xvorg · December 2018

Glory wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Camelot Unchained is the biggest threat to ESO and ZoS failed to see it. 4 years ago there were people talking about it and we all knew what was going to happen when it was officially launched.

ZoS had 4 years to fix the lag, instead they took the easy route of selling chapter after chapter. CU is now just around the corner... and there's no way ESO will dare to compete against that monster.

If CU ever comes out

Even if it tooks them 2 or 3 years more, I don't see how ZoS will ever fix the lag problems, instead they are gonna sell us a full patch with Pyandonea and Akavir.

I'll dare to bet that ESO VI comes before ZoS fix the lag

Ackwalan · December 2018

Xvorg wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Camelot Unchained is the biggest threat to ESO and ZoS failed to see it. 4 years ago there were people talking about it and we all knew what was going to happen when it was officially launched.

ZoS had 4 years to fix the lag, instead they took the easy route of selling chapter after chapter. CU is now just around the corner... and there's no way ESO will dare to compete against that monster.

ZOS had the exact same hype about ESO that CU has had. DO you really think CU will be able to hold up tp their promise? ESO didn't, why should CU?

frostz417 · December 2018

This thread is a complete meme now. No results posted, no communication, no care or incentive to fix it. ESO has about a year and a half left TOPS before it dies

VinayExile · January 2019

ive been in all top guilds on EU, and all of them left, there is literally no one left quite funny

zos deserves the same as FO4 got, deceptive practices lawsuits for selling people nonsense

pieratsos · January 2019

idk wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

It’s great Zos never published their conclusions.

Not sure why anyone expected Zos to publish the findings. It seems pretty obvious lag was horrible during the test. That spoke extremely loud. I think some are grabbing at straws here.

Vapirko wrote: »

Conclusion: CP is not the issue.
ZOS: Well, we’re out of ideas.

Some do see it clearly.

The entire campaign was stacked at two outposts, it is pretty obvious that it was going to lag CP or no CP. Nothing else was obvious however. So no, it didnt speak extremely loud. It didnt speak at all.

idk · January 2019

frostz417 wrote: »

This thread is a complete meme now. No results posted, no communication, no care or incentive to fix it. ESO has about a year and a half left TOPS before it dies

What is funny is for almost 5 years there have been people who have claimed the death of ESO was eminent and so far each have been utterly wrong because they do not have a clue what they are talking about. This here is no exception.

idk · January 2019

pieratsos wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

It’s great Zos never published their conclusions.

Not sure why anyone expected Zos to publish the findings. It seems pretty obvious lag was horrible during the test. That spoke extremely loud. I think some are grabbing at straws here.

Vapirko wrote: »

Conclusion: CP is not the issue.
ZOS: Well, we’re out of ideas.

Some do see it clearly.

The entire campaign was stacked at two outposts, it is pretty obvious that it was going to lag CP or no CP. Nothing else was obvious however. So no, it didnt speak extremely loud. It didnt speak at all.

Not the case in the campaign I play in. Certainly highly doubtful it was the case on each of the servers. Statistically improbable

RinaldoGandolphi · January 2019

idk wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

This thread is a complete meme now. No results posted, no communication, no care or incentive to fix it. ESO has about a year and a half left TOPS before it dies

What is funny is for almost 5 years there have been people who have claimed the death of ESO was eminent and so far each have been utterly wrong because they do not have a clue what they are talking about. This here is no exception.

ESO is already dead and has been since they dropped the sub and announced B2P. There was 10 times as many players on PC-NA prior to the lighting patch that ruined server performance thus killing the game. It was estimated ZOS had 850,000 paying subs prior to the lighting patch debacle that drove most of those subs out of the game.

LeifErickson · January 2019

Xvorg wrote: »

Glory wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Camelot Unchained is the biggest threat to ESO and ZoS failed to see it. 4 years ago there were people talking about it and we all knew what was going to happen when it was officially launched.

ZoS had 4 years to fix the lag, instead they took the easy route of selling chapter after chapter. CU is now just around the corner... and there's no way ESO will dare to compete against that monster.

If CU ever comes out

Even if it tooks them 2 or 3 years more, I don't see how ZoS will ever fix the lag problems, instead they are gonna sell us a full patch with Pyandonea and Akavir.

I'll dare to bet that ESO VI comes before ZoS fix the lag

If ZOS actually fixed the lag I would have a hard time playing any other game. But I don't think they ever will.

LegacyDM · January 2019

Ackwalan wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Camelot Unchained is the biggest threat to ESO and ZoS failed to see it. 4 years ago there were people talking about it and we all knew what was going to happen when it was officially launched.

ZoS had 4 years to fix the lag, instead they took the easy route of selling chapter after chapter. CU is now just around the corner... and there's no way ESO will dare to compete against that monster.

ZOS had the exact same hype about ESO that CU has had. DO you really think CU will be able to hold up tp their promise? ESO didn't, why should CU?

Because CU whole base model is designed around PvP. It has to work or the game dies quickly. Eso bass model is pve. Pve keeps it alive not cyrodil. Also CU is designing the pvp game engine from scratch to handle the load. Not using some modified crap turd Hero engine.

frostz417 · January 2019

idk wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

This thread is a complete meme now. No results posted, no communication, no care or incentive to fix it. ESO has about a year and a half left TOPS before it dies

What is funny is for almost 5 years there have been people who have claimed the death of ESO was eminent and so far each have been utterly wrong because they do not have a clue what they are talking about. This here is no exception.

For those who make blind claims that the game is doing better than ever just say that for self reassurance.
Look at the end game pve community and the cyrodiil population over time. I’ve played for quite sometime and I’ve noticed both slowly decreasing over time. Cyrodiil used to have multiple campaigns with a lot of people in them, now there’s only one during the day which is vivec, and shor is only populated during prime time which reaches 2 bars max where previously it would consistently have 3 bars while campaigns like kyne and sotha would have bars, but those 2 now are nearly permanently dead. Same with the raiding community, used to be a good number of end game raiding guilds but with each terrible patch that number has decreased. An example is morrowind, where the population took a big hit, then with summerset, and now this derpmire update.
Anyone within these groups sees the decline of the games population and knows it is slowly dying. Another prime example is the populated areas. Many places used to be completely packed 24-7 a good example is dueling hot spots. This included mournhold, wayrest, eldenroot, riften, and vulkhel guard. Now however manny of these locations have died and the only ones that remain are riften partially, wayrest, and vulkhel guard. The only ones who do not see this are those who are either too delusional to see the truth, or are just casuals who log in and do questing and play around in public dungeons. Also if you want to justify how the game is thriving in the “casual” sector just remind yourself every MMORPG needs and end game. With zos consistently screwing up and neglecting the issues that affect the end game in a negative manner the end game community begins to leave. Eventually if zos continues down this path there will be no end game just casuals which will lead to a dead game due to many getting bored and leaving since they begin to see the issues themselves. So no, my comment isn’t an exception is a debatable fact. If zos refuses to acknowledge the constant trash performance of this game it will die

Ackwalan · January 2019

LegacyDM wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Camelot Unchained is the biggest threat to ESO and ZoS failed to see it. 4 years ago there were people talking about it and we all knew what was going to happen when it was officially launched.

ZoS had 4 years to fix the lag, instead they took the easy route of selling chapter after chapter. CU is now just around the corner... and there's no way ESO will dare to compete against that monster.

ZOS had the exact same hype about ESO that CU has had. DO you really think CU will be able to hold up tp their promise? ESO didn't, why should CU?

Because CU whole base model is designed around PvP. It has to work or the game dies quickly. Eso bass model is pve. Pve keeps it alive not cyrodil. Also CU is designing the pvp game engine from scratch to handle the load. Not using some modified crap turd Hero engine.

ESO was modeled after a large 3 alliance PvP battle. Just like CU is being advertised as.

LegacyDM · January 2019

Ackwalan wrote: »

LegacyDM wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

That was one of focuses in 2017 ..... Ok so have our answer now as in no answer....We were never told of the results we were never told anything after this .... We were just left hanging the rest of 2017 ....

2018....... People have left PVP in larger numbers IMO In early 2018 Shore could post 3 bars straight across during primetime and 2 bars almost every night .... Now its down to 2 bars on the weekends during primetime and 1 bar most of the week...

Whats in store in 2019 well... declining population .... frustration and people moving to new games in the near future... I personally will stay away from games with some of the people that have been associated with this one.... I love this games concepts and everythying about it except (PERFORMANCE)

Camelot Unchained is the biggest threat to ESO and ZoS failed to see it. 4 years ago there were people talking about it and we all knew what was going to happen when it was officially launched.

ZoS had 4 years to fix the lag, instead they took the easy route of selling chapter after chapter. CU is now just around the corner... and there's no way ESO will dare to compete against that monster.

ZOS had the exact same hype about ESO that CU has had. DO you really think CU will be able to hold up tp their promise? ESO didn't, why should CU?

Because CU whole base model is designed around PvP. It has to work or the game dies quickly. Eso bass model is pve. Pve keeps it alive not cyrodil. Also CU is designing the pvp game engine from scratch to handle the load. Not using some modified crap turd Hero engine.

ESO was modeled after a large 3 alliance PvP battle. Just like CU is being advertised as.

Yes it was but it was modeled as both pve and pvp with s clear split between the two. At some point probably after the IC debacle zos abandon pvp in favor of cranking out pve content and crown store. They realized that pve drives their game. CU on the other hand is all pvp. Pvp is the core base game. Not pve. No split no pve pure pvp. If it doesn’t work their whole business model fails. If pvp doesn’t work for Eso (which I’d argue it hasn’t) they just fall back on pve as their cash cow.

pieratsos · January 2019

idk wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

It’s great Zos never published their conclusions.

Not sure why anyone expected Zos to publish the findings. It seems pretty obvious lag was horrible during the test. That spoke extremely loud. I think some are grabbing at straws here.

Vapirko wrote: »

Conclusion: CP is not the issue.
ZOS: Well, we’re out of ideas.

Some do see it clearly.

The entire campaign was stacked at two outposts, it is pretty obvious that it was going to lag CP or no CP. Nothing else was obvious however. So no, it didnt speak extremely loud. It didnt speak at all.

Not the case in the campaign I play in. Certainly highly doubtful it was the case on each of the servers. Statistically improbable

It was the first double AP event and during that time the outpost flipping "exploit" was still a thing and devs themselves admitted to it so im not exactly sure about what you are talking about. There are also multiple people in this thread saying that their performance was much better. The only thing that is statistically improbable is for your experience and opinion to be the same with everyone else's. Aka its not that obvious.

The test was a great idea that should have been expanded upon to help with performance. But instead it was just a one-off poorly implement idea cause they never actually cared enough to do it right. Which is prety much the whole story with anything related to PVP. They just dont care.