Master Craftin Writs a Joke?

WhitC1935

I have max'd crafters in all crafts. In the last six days I have done dailies in alll of them. So after doing 36 dailes (6 days x 6 crafts) I have received and completed only one Master Writ quest (Alchemy) and received 2 writs. in order to buy one crafting station for my house it will cost 250 writs. Something is badly out of whack with this system IMHO. I don't intend to waste any more raw materials on this futility.

worsttankever

I plan to skip master writs entirely . The whole housing hoopla infact.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Master writs (most) simply are not rewarding as they only grant you 2-6 vouchers on average (if you can get a master writ). If someone has only one crafter or is new to the game and crafting it could easily take a year before they get that practice dummy or Ebony motif they want. Master writs (IMO) should grant no less than 20 vouchers.

Tommy_The_Gun

I can say this:
It is either VERY bad RNG or the master crafting drop is totally rigged.

The first day I did 3 crafting quests:
Woodworking
Blacksmithing
Clothing

Got one Master crafter Writ - to craft Nirnhoned staff (Hist Bark Set). I did the quest and got a lot of vouchers.
The next day I did the same quest.. (this time I did all crafting quests: Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing, Enchanting, Alchemy and Provisioning). Got one Master crafter Writ - but with like a 6 vouchers reward.

Up to this day - nothing. Every day I do all 6 crafting quest and no Master crafter Writ. I have maxed crafting, with all passives unlocked. 5 days - and no Master crafter Writ. Maybe there is a cool-down for that, or like a limit per week or something ?

Auricle

Honestly, I was feeling optimistic about ZoS' attempts to make crafters more relevant until I realized that, ohhh wait, this is just another absurd grind. When did games become jobs?

Evergnar

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I can say this:
It is either VERY bad RNG or the master crafting drop is totally rigged.

^This. It is either completely RNG or more account based than character based. My alt crafters are out performing my dedicated master crafter.

Katahdin

I've done them every day since the update went live on 4 characters.

3 characters with max blacksmith, cloth and wood but no research. All blue motifs learned, all holiday motifs learned, some mercenary learned to get laurels. Not one master writ from them.

1 max master crafter. All traits researched, 37 complete motifs known. Done writs on him every day. I finally got two master writs today worth 7 vouchers. No vouchers in the previous 3 days. I have a grand total of 26 vouchers for 8 days of writs.

It will take me 3 months to earn enough to get the Ebony motif at this rate.

The amount of mats pissed away for such lack of reward is absurd. Painfully slow doesn't even begin to describe this.

A master crafter with all crafts, traits and 30+ motifs known should be guaranteed 10 vouchers per day in some combination at least.

Callous2208

Your first hint that the master writs would be a pain in the ass or not really worth it, should have been when you saw that a lot of the really good stuff you could buy with vouchers, was also on the crown store. InB4 ebony motif on cs next update.

Arrchangell

Same here, i just keep getting enchanting ones that are worth 6 vouchers. My friend who does not have maxed crafting in woodworking and almost no styles, got a woodworking one that gives 70 vouchers. That RNG!

Wolfchild07

Yeah, I'm not bothering with them. Waste of time and resources.

Palidon

ZOS and their RNG drop percentage is a joke. Like some other's have commented in this thread I use two Master Crafter characters to do the daily writs. Two days worth was 24 writs and not one Master Writ drop. I really don't care that much because without storage I have no need for a house anyways.

Cpt_Teemo

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I can say this:
It is either VERY bad RNG or the master crafting drop is totally rigged.

The first day I did 3 crafting quests:
Woodworking
Blacksmithing
Clothing

Got one Master crafter Writ - to craft Nirnhoned staff (Hist Bark Set). I did the quest and got a lot of vouchers.
The next day I did the same quest.. (this time I did all crafting quests: Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Clothing, Enchanting, Alchemy and Provisioning). Got one Master crafter Writ - but with like a 6 vouchers reward.

Up to this day - nothing. Every day I do all 6 crafting quest and no Master crafter Writ. I have maxed crafting, with all passives unlocked. 5 days - and no Master crafter Writ. Maybe there is a cool-down for that, or like a limit per week or something ?

I believe the more you have learned the less chance you have to obtain these higher vouchers I've been doing writs on my master crafter with all but 3 full motifs, and about 15 traits left and only got 2 master writs the whole entire time since last week.

hiyde

I have 16 characters (2 accounts) maxed in all crafts.

Over the period of a week, I did nearly 100 writs.

My most advanced crafter (9-traited, knows most motifs, has most recipes etc) received *0* master writs.
My other various characters received a grand total of 3 Master Writs (2 alchemy @ 5 vouchers, 1 enchanting @2 vouchers)

Almost 100 writs, 12 vouchers total.

I'm done. Ridiculous waste of mats and time. Better off farming *anything* else, selling it and buying what I need. Sad!

s7732425ub17_ESO

Have only one crafting character, my main. Did all writs except provisioning for the last three days. Received four master writs. Did them all for a total of around 40 vouchers.

AshTal

I think I got kinda lucky with Master writes but even with a lot of luck I soon released I will never be able to buy a crafting station. Also the writes don't appear to be account wide so one crafter has 2 and other 5 etc meaning it will be even longer to get a decent number.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Was hopeful when master writs first came out, but that hope is gone now. This looks like a crown store cash grab really. Sure you can get your smithing, woodworking, clothing, alchemy, provisioning and enchanting station by playing the game, doing writs and turning in vouchers for them. At the present master writ/voucher drop rate, it will only take you 2 to 3 years if you're lucky. Or you could just drop $170 or more in the crown store and buy them. (By the way, that price is just for the 6 basic crafting stations not including a dye station.)

AlMcFly

Reading people's results in this thread is very disheartening. I may just avoid it altogether until ZOS eases up the grind.

failkiwib16_ESO

O.o just get the treasure hunter cp passive, it might help with your RNG.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I am doing master writs on 9 toons. I get at least something every day but some are better than others. All my toons are 50 in all skills, but only one toon is 9 trait in everything with the majority of motifs learned. She does seem to do a little better than the others, but not a lot better.

I have another toon that is 9 trait in half the stuff and 7-8 on the rest. She was getting totally blanked but finally got a 120+ Voucher last night from her.

I have 4 toon a that are 6-7 trait researched and 3 toons that have no research done. I don't see a lot of difference here to be honest.

On all but one toon, I have taken the time to learn every reagent and rune. This does give me a fairly steady supply of 2-6 writ vouchers (alchemy and enchanting). These are by far the most common ones I see. Pretty sure the one toon that doesn't know the reagents and runes has not got many of any of these.

Finally, I have one toon that is level 50 but knows nothing in terms of research, motifs reagents etc. he got one big clothing writ (75 or so) right of the bat but has been pretty much blanked ever since.

Point is,RNG is definitely an issue but it can be combatted to some degree. If you are only running on one toon a day,it's gonna be a while.

I want to say I am in the neighborhood of 600-800 vouchers since launched. I have been selling all. Unfortunately 343 are now Deadly Strike, but that's a different issue. Exact numbers are tough because I bought a few to flip as well.

MasterSpatula

The higher-voucher ones aren't too great, either. I personally find 8 Legendary Tempers easier to come up with than a single Potent Nirncrux, especially with my number of Craglorn surveys down one or two a month. When I'm asked to make an Epic Nirnhoned Weapon of a 3-trait Set, I'm pissing away a huge amount of my time investment for not even 2 Ebony pages.

Cpt_Teemo

My fresh crafter just got a 104 writ voucher nice, and my master crafter hasn't gotten any for the past 5 days lol

Taleof2Cities

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Point is,RNG is definitely an issue but it can be combatted to some degree. If you are only running on one toon a day,it's gonna be a while.

I want to say I am in the neighborhood of 600-800 vouchers since launched. I have been selling all. Unfortunately 343 are now Deadly Strike, but that's a different issue. Exact numbers are tough because I bought a few to flip as well.

Maybe I'm the only one, but the master writ rewards seem to be working fine for me.

I only have three (3) legit master crafters ... but total vouchers earned since launch is 400+.

Have you checked your achievements?

Some of the easiest items to fix on your character's crafting resume is achievements ... such as learning the hakeijo essence rune for enchanting.

ChandraNalaar

Up to this day - nothing. Every day I do all 6 crafting quest and no Master crafter Writ. I have maxed crafting, with all passives unlocked. 5 days - and no Master crafter Writ. Maybe there is a cool-down for that, or like a limit per week or something ?[/quote]

I believe the more you have learned the less chance you have to obtain these higher vouchers I've been doing writs on my master crafter with all but 3 full motifs, and about 15 traits left and only got 2 master writs the whole entire time since last week.[/quote]

That would make absolutely no sense, though. Why give the good drops to people who can't do anything with them? ZoS said that the more motifs and recipes you know, the better your drop chance for master writs. I've seen more people who have done nothing with crafting get crazy good writs then sell them for an obscene and extortionary amount to people who put months of work into crafting but can't get them. @ZOS_GinaBruno Can you explain the master writs a little better please? What exactly is the drop chance for the writs, and how much do motif, trait, and recipe knowledge influence it. That way we have a better ideas of the number and percentages involved in writ drops.

Cpt_Teemo

ChandraNalaar wrote: »

Up to this day - nothing. Every day I do all 6 crafting quest and no Master crafter Writ. I have maxed crafting, with all passives unlocked. 5 days - and no Master crafter Writ. Maybe there is a cool-down for that, or like a limit per week or something ?

I believe the more you have learned the less chance you have to obtain these higher vouchers I've been doing writs on my master crafter with all but 3 full motifs, and about 15 traits left and only got 2 master writs the whole entire time since last week.[/quote]

That would make absolutely no sense, though. Why give the good drops to people who can't do anything with them? ZoS said that the more motifs and recipes you know, the better your drop chance for master writs. I've seen more people who have done nothing with crafting get crazy good writs then sell them for an obscene and extortionary amount to people who put months of work into crafting but can't get them. @ZOS_GinaBruno Can you explain the master writs a little better please? What exactly is the drop chance for the writs, and how much do motif, trait, and recipe knowledge influence it. That way we have a better ideas of the number and percentages involved in writ drops.[/quote]

Not sure but it sure seems like it

Callous2208

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Point is,RNG is definitely an issue but it can be combatted to some degree. If you are only running on one toon a day,it's gonna be a while.

I want to say I am in the neighborhood of 600-800 vouchers since launched. I have been selling all. Unfortunately 343 are now Deadly Strike, but that's a different issue. Exact numbers are tough because I bought a few to flip as well.

Maybe I'm the only one, but the master writ rewards seem to be working fine for me.

I only have three (3) legit master crafters ... but total vouchers earned since launch is 400+.

Have you checked your achievements?

Some of the easiest items to fix on your character's crafting resume is achievements ... such as learning the hakeijo essence rune for enchanting.

That's the beauty/curse of RNG, someone will always be lucky. There's not an achievement missed on my 9 trait master crafter, and he's not doing any better than some lowbie with minimal achievements and barely any traits learned.

misfitmanic

I have only one toon capable of crafting, and have turned in all 6 writs daily. Also purchasing low cost/low payout master writs I come across. Crafted my first target skeleton last night.
I have also sold a lot of crafted furnishings.
IMO, there has never been a better time in Tamriel to be a crafter.
Good job ZOS bought a house with crowns to say thank you.

Vonovosi

first of all according to the patch notes mater writ drops are not just based on crafting skill level, but also number of achievements in each crafting skill, in the case of blacksmithing, clothing and woodworking number of traits researched and motifs know, for provisioning number of recipes known, alchemy number of traits known on all reagents, and for enchanting number of runes deciphered.

I have been doing all 6 writs on a total of 8 characters since housing launched. All 8 have the 3 consumable crafts max level, with all achievements, all alchemy and enchanting researched. All know at least the majority of green recipes, with only 1 of my alts being a master provisioner, knowing all but 2 recipes. All my alts are at least 5/9 in trait research in all items in all equipment crafting skills, with only 1 alt being master crafter knowing all traits and knowing all but 3 pages in all the different styles released before housing. (with exception of the 2 crown store exclusive styles) As of today I have done master writs to receive about 500 vouchers, with the 7 master writs I received today (3 alchemy, 2 enchanting, and 1 each clothing and woodworking) adding another 34 to that total.

I agree that the RNG on the master writs seems rather low. The entire philosophy behind the housing system as it stands seems to be to funnel more dollars into the clown store. It is far more practical to just go and buy a furnished house from the clown store and make a few adjustments, than it is to go through the hassle to acquire all the blueprints, diagrams, etc as well as the matts to craft all the furnishings to fill up a house. The master writ nonsense is also pushing players into the clown store to buy motifs and mimic stones to complete master writs as well as purchase DLC if not owned, so far about 50% of my crafting master writs have required access to DLC zones to complete.

Preyfar

My main crafter is 9/9 in everything and has every single motif up until this last update. I'm getting more Master Writs on alts with no research than I am my mega crafter. I hate RNG.

EDIT: And worse, Writ Vouchers are a currency, but can't be banked. I accidentally accepted a low end Master Writ on alt (derp!) and I was like, okay, I'll be able to do it eventually. And I will, but you can't bank vouchers, so he'll have those 6 vouchers on him forever.

They should be account based, not character.

zaria

Auricle wrote: »

Honestly, I was feeling optimistic about ZoS' attempts to make crafters more relevant until I realized that, ohhh wait, this is just another absurd grind. When did games become jobs?

Grind on, you are just going in circles

idk

The more traits and motifs known for hard crafts the better the RNG.

The more purple and gold recipies, alchemy traits and runes learned the better the RNG for consumables.

She joke as that. Has worked for me. Seems OP got extremely lucky on first day which makes much that follows a let down.

wayfarerx

Vonovosi wrote: »

I have been doing all 6 writs on a total of 8 characters since housing launched. All 8 have the 3 consumable crafts max level, with all achievements, all alchemy and enchanting researched. All know at least the majority of green recipes, with only 1 of my alts being a master provisioner, knowing all but 2 recipes. All my alts are at least 5/9 in trait research in all items in all equipment crafting skills, with only 1 alt being master crafter knowing all traits and knowing all but 3 pages in all the different styles released before housing. (with exception of the 2 crown store exclusive styles)

This is extremely close to the setup I have (8 characters / all crafts leveled / everybody 5+ traits / 1 master crafter / etc). As of today I have done 432 max-level writs and received 35 master writs worth 177 writ vouchers in total. My best single master writ so far awarded me 41 writ vouchers.