PTS Patch Notes v2.7.1

FLambda

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Crafting & Economy
Crafting

• Updated the basic recipe for a rough military stretcher to involve cloth. Boy, would it be uncomfortable to be carried on a basic wooden rack.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Exploration & Itemization
Merchants

• Updated Fro Snow-Hair's name to Frohilde Snow-Hair. She has grown weary of her childhood nickname, and is trying to be more professional these days.

Oh man... these two lines are just GOLD!

Dracane wrote: »

Am I misreading, or are they really buffing dual wield ?

You are indeed misreading.... They're Nerfing dual wield.

Shader_Shibes

Can i be refunded my 1.5m gold i just spent on 2x Mothers Sorrow swords for my magplar please?

Oh, and the 16 alloy i used to make them legendary -_-

Ralen

ShadowHvo wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Homes

• Daggerfall Overlook now has a tower from which you may now look over Daggerfall.
  

Honestly, I know you're not responsible Gina, but the absolute racial injust and bias is just really unfair.

You guys at Zenimax, whoever makes the choices regarding the homes, sincerely need to stop his blatant Breton and Daggerfall favoritism. It is really disappointing to see these DC homes like Daggerfall Overlook and Hundings Palatial having the far better features of any other home, when you guys leave the Ebonheart Chateau as a boring Dunmer manor, without any additional features like all other manors have.

I will list the list of features in a spoiler tag, to spare everyone else the scroll-time.

- Serenity Falls (AD Manor)
1. River
2. Pool
3. Waterfall
4. Additional Servant House
5. Stables
6. Balconies from the main building AND second.
7. Large Two Story Building
8. Yard

- Daggerfall Overlook (DC Manor)
4. MASSIVE Overlook over the Iliac Bay
5. Fountain
6. Stable
7. Big Barn
8. Castle has fitting room separation, 3 stories including the Cellar.
9. Unique special hideaway entrance to the sea below from the cellar.
10. Yard
11. Now with a brilliant Watchtower too.

- Ebonheart Chateau (EP Manor)
1. Yard
2. Four Trees
3. One Big 3 story House with only one seperate room in the cellar (Essentially all commen Dunmer manors.)
4. A Barn
5. Fountain

The Ebonheart Chateau does NOT have a functional watchtower as the description claims, and the entire view of the house out over the lava lakes, ash grounds and sea is completely blocked off by rocks that cannot be adjusted with the housing editor.

I honestly hope you will share word to the responsible people in charge, Gina, for the Ebonheart Chateau is quite literally the most expensive manor, but just as it is expensive at nearly 4 million gold, it is but equally disappointing.

Thank you for clearly and appropriately expressing what I said earlier!

Please @ZOS_GinaBruno transmits our request !

kaithuzar

code65536 wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

So a proper weave with a staff vs. dual wielding was already fairly close in terms of raw DPS for a magicka character.

Now we have nerf'd dual wield vs. a buffed staff.

Sounds like we're being pigeon holed into a staff build if you want to build properly.

Losing a main-hand items requires a complete build rework. I cant' just take off two swords and throw on a staff.

Guess it's back to farming. Great.

For magicka users, you'll be losing only around 30 spell damage with this change--it's not really significant.

I do think that magicka users should be using staves, that dual-wield for magicka is an aberration, and that it's good that magicka DPS migrate to using staves. That having been said, the loss of 30 SD really is just a drop in the bucket that should not--and would not--change the staff-vs-DW equation. The changes to the fire and lightning staff passives, on the other hand, are far more significant than this change.

I don't think it's quite fair to say that.
You stated yourself that magicka dw playstyle is not your preferred choice, so how can you state that it would not change the equation for those of us who do play it, and have a specific equation in our heads?
For me, it's the small amount pushing me over the limit.

If I had a choice I would most definitely continue with duel wield magicka, unfortunately with nerfs to nightblades, buffs to destro passives, destro ult still being as op as it is, and nerf's to duel wield damage, I personally feel like ZOS has taken that choice away from me.

Taysa

Can also confirm the door to the tower at Daggerfall Overlook simply does not work.

ManDraKE

adriant1978 wrote: »

Wow, thanks for another nerf to my DW magicka NB on top of the Strife cost increase.

Why this seemingly obsessive desire to force us all to main a destro staff and spam Force Pulse?!

lol, NB have concealed weapon, templar have jabs, dks have whip. The only one that is forced to use Force Pulse is the sorc.

Nazarousb14_ESO

dpencil wrote: »

Interesting change to Dual Wield. I wonder if that will further dissuade magicka classes from running Dual Wield.

May be, but is defiantly further reason to just forget stamina builds all together.

Doctordarkspawn

BRING ON THE DUEL WIELD NERFS.

THE TWOHANDER SHALL RISE AGAIN!

Now revert the Bracing change and make armor abilities only useable with five pieces on so we can REALLY *** with the meta!

Akimbro

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Can i be refunded my 1.5m gold i just spent on 2x Mothers Sorrow swords for my magplar please?

Oh, and the 16 alloy i used to make them legendary -_-

Lol lesson learned. Never make these kind of purchases before a big update goes live.

ShadowHvo

Ralen wrote: »

ShadowHvo wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Homes

• Daggerfall Overlook now has a tower from which you may now look over Daggerfall.
  

Honestly, I know you're not responsible Gina, but the absolute racial injust and bias is just really unfair.

You guys at Zenimax, whoever makes the choices regarding the homes, sincerely need to stop his blatant Breton and Daggerfall favoritism. It is really disappointing to see these DC homes like Daggerfall Overlook and Hundings Palatial having the far better features of any other home, when you guys leave the Ebonheart Chateau as a boring Dunmer manor, without any additional features like all other manors have.

I will list the list of features in a spoiler tag, to spare everyone else the scroll-time.

- Serenity Falls (AD Manor)
1. River
2. Pool
3. Waterfall
4. Additional Servant House
5. Stables
6. Balconies from the main building AND second.
7. Large Two Story Building
8. Yard

- Daggerfall Overlook (DC Manor)
4. MASSIVE Overlook over the Iliac Bay
5. Fountain
6. Stable
7. Big Barn
8. Castle has fitting room separation, 3 stories including the Cellar.
9. Unique special hideaway entrance to the sea below from the cellar.
10. Yard
11. Now with a brilliant Watchtower too.

- Ebonheart Chateau (EP Manor)
1. Yard
2. Four Trees
3. One Big 3 story House with only one seperate room in the cellar (Essentially all commen Dunmer manors.)
4. A Barn
5. Fountain

The Ebonheart Chateau does NOT have a functional watchtower as the description claims, and the entire view of the house out over the lava lakes, ash grounds and sea is completely blocked off by rocks that cannot be adjusted with the housing editor.

I honestly hope you will share word to the responsible people in charge, Gina, for the Ebonheart Chateau is quite literally the most expensive manor, but just as it is expensive at nearly 4 million gold, it is but equally disappointing.

Thank you for clearly and appropriately expressing what I said earlier!

Please @ZOS_GinaBruno transmits our request !

You are welcome my friend!

.. Also, I went ahead and gave it a like. I may had forgotton to read the comments before posting.

Taysa

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Taysa wrote: »

Any chance we can get specifics on which houses were affected by the furnishing count change rather than just a broad statement?

You should be able to go into PTS and view the counts yourself (or if you're on console get a friend to pass you the info).

So I just did. And nothing's changed. Unless it's a change for ESO+ only (and in which case, it would be really nice to see that in the patch notes), then there was no change whatsoever.

STEVIL

Mitoice wrote: »

dpencil wrote: »

Interesting change to Dual Wield. I wonder if that will further dissuade magicka classes from running Dual Wield.

@dpencil

No it wont..... the only reason i use dual wield as magicka, its for the 2 set bonus it provides... so i can wear 2 sets and a monster helm with its shoulder.... if i use a 2 handed i can only use 1 set and a monster helm or 2 sets with no monster helm...

I guess this is not part of the balance

or you can use two sets and monster set just choose sets wisely that work well swapping on and off - ones with potent duration effects as opposed to ones that have to be always slotted to work in their 5th piece.

2h/bow/Staff can use the same number of 5pc/2pc bonuses as the others they just need to choose the right sets for their setup.

But then, once you get mael or master wpns the math changes again (as it would if/when they give us 4pc crafted sets.)

balance does not mean having the same identical options just equally useful ones.

STEVIL

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Can i be refunded my 1.5m gold i just spent on 2x Mothers Sorrow swords for my magplar please?

Oh, and the 16 alloy i used to make them legendary -_-

I am sure the crafter will offer you a refeund, for a slight re-stocking fee - provided they haven't been equipped yet and bound.

STEVIL

Akimbro wrote: »

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Can i be refunded my 1.5m gold i just spent on 2x Mothers Sorrow swords for my magplar please?

Oh, and the 16 alloy i used to make them legendary -_-

Lol lesson learned. Never make these kind of purchases before a big update goes live.

Agreed nothing hvy on the wallet or brighter than purple since for me - thanksgiving?

TerraDewBerry

Carbonised wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The pricing with the merchant will be updated in next week's PTS patch.

Hi @ZOS_GinaBruno,

I see that the prices in the master writ voucher store have been updated already in this patch, up from the 1 voucher of last week. Does your comment mean that there are further price changes coming in v2.7.2? I really hope so, because for anyone without 9 trait research complete (to be able to finish the 100+ voucher master writs), the prices are probably too high on the attunable crafting stations.

250 vouchers is something like 3 gold weapon hand ins, which amounts to something like 280-300k
Way, way, way, way too much for something that might save you a 5 minute trip to Craglorn.

Generally, these voucher prices are much too high comparing to how many vouchers you get from the writs. I we need to hand in stuff that requires 8 gold tempers, it sure as heck gotta be worth more than that.

Not to mention, I believe your attunable crafting stations are an attune them one time thing where I think if you want to attune a different place, you need a whole new table... I hope I'm wrong about that, but that is my memory about it.

OMA

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Homes

• Daggerfall Overlook now has a tower from which you may now look over Daggerfall.
  

Ok ...is it just me? I can't enter the door at the stairs to this Tower...so ...I still can't look over Dagger fall.

Anti_Virus

STEVIL wrote: »

driosketch wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Wow every one of my dual wield characters took a hit.
Could not 2H been buffed instead?

That might have been the better approach. Outside of PvP, or solo questing, half the time my characters are now dual weiders, both magicka and stamina builds.

i doubt anything raising burst damage is on the agenda without counter-reductions included - so reducing the DW vs raising the 2h makes sense to me.

i like this change. One of the often bemoaned "everything dw" complaints was the less wpndam/spldam when you 2H. this is a step to making them more numerically base level on par while maintaining their functional differences.

I'm suprised you feel that way because numerous threads about DW and 2H parity came up and you would go in and claim they shouldn't be equal.

I would have thought you would bring out torches and pitch forks for this change.

Loralai_907

Huh. So uhh, nothing about disappearing achievement items?

Hippie_Einstein

Welp. Good bye sorc. Good bye eso. Looks as though I'm being forced into meta. Funny how we've gotten more sets over time yet play styles continue to be killed off. First velocious curse, now DW. With no real fix for proc sets or heavy armor. Nice "balance". Done paying my subscription once this drops lol. Also done bringing more people to a game that constantly likes to fix unbroken things while broken *** remains everywhere.

Lucky28

leave proc sets as they are on current live. if you're not gonna do something right, then don't do it at all. not meant to be an insult, but this change is not the correct one. this change is gonna hurt builds that don't need to be hurt while stacking proc sets is gonna be just as much of an issue.

i am disappointed, i was really looking forward to that issue actually being addressed, next update i guess.

leave strife alone. why increase the cost in the first place?. it's a weak ability with an alright heal leave it alone.

Haunting curse: yeah no, change Daedric prey and leave Velocious be.

trapping webs. can't that be magicka again?.

Lukums1

Holy ^%&*@!.

Imagine if you were one of those Muppets that bought 2 elegant sharpen swords for your mag sorc LOLOLOL

GIT RIK ROLLED.

Lucky28

ManDraKE wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

Wow, thanks for another nerf to my DW magicka NB on top of the Strife cost increase.

Why this seemingly obsessive desire to force us all to main a destro staff and spam Force Pulse?!

lol, NB have concealed weapon, templar have jabs, dks have whip. The only one that is forced to use Force Pulse is the sorc.

concealed is garbage.

Minalan

Lukums1 wrote: »

Holy ^%&*@!.

Imagine if you were one of those Muppets that bought 2 elegant sharpen swords for your mag sorc LOLOLOL

GIT RIK ROLLED.

Psst! The nerf is only like 40 SD, dual wield sorcs will still work fine if that's how you want to play. Staff is just a more viable DPS option now.

GIT HOOKED ON MATHS!

SickDuck

Caff32 wrote: »

Akrasjel wrote: »

Pandorii wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The pricing with the merchant will be updated in next week's PTS patch.

Hi @ZOS_GinaBruno,

I see that the prices in the master writ voucher store have been updated already in this patch, up from the 1 voucher of last week. Does your comment mean that there are further price changes coming in v2.7.2? I really hope so, because for anyone without 9 trait research complete (to be able to finish the 100+ voucher master writs), the prices are probably too high on the attunable crafting stations.

Ouch. I knew the attunement stations weren't going to be cheap, but 250 vouchers?!

That depends how many vouchers in average we will get.

I had to craft a gold 2h ancient orc battle axe from imperial city and got 21 vouchers, for an example.

Wow, that would put the cost of one voucher in the 4-5k gold area. So a single attunable station will cost over a million gold?

Lukums1

Minalan wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

Holy ^%&*@!.

Imagine if you were one of those Muppets that bought 2 elegant sharpen swords for your mag sorc LOLOLOL

GIT RIK ROLLED.

Psst! The nerf is only like 40 SD, dual wield sorcs will still work fine if that's how you want to play. Staff is just a more viable DPS option now.

GIT HOOKED ON MATHS!

LOL %@^@!

But in all seriousness, 500 ulti bank... I'm really glad I didn't go the elegant path.

The_Undefined

So since the patch, these either existing issues or new issues have been occurring:

Bugs:

• I crash when teleporting to someone in a house I don't have permissions to
• Items still disappear (including furniture - crownstore / non-crownstore, collectibles / non-collectibles, outside / inside house)
• Some NPCs are flickering in and out of existence

TheHsN

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

Before everyone goes losing their minds about the "nerf" to Dual Wield;
Live servers;

PTS servers;

39 WD difference with Major Brut up + 5 medium armor passive.

Without Major Brut I have 2823 WD on live and on 2789 PTS. So yeah, it is being affected by buffs. Maximum of 51 WD lost if you're a sorc with Major/Minor brut and Flawless main barred (altho, not sure why you'd do that)

The 6% bonus passive, Dual Wield Expert, is also no longer granting Spell Damage. This was a bugged passive and was only retaining it's bonuses if you did something unintended with them, which is being fixed

This is less than 100 DPS lost for min/maxed situations. The world is not ending, calm down.

No i understand and that was never issue no body said this is already a balance issue... So they did not adress to any real balance issues again thats is the problem. They never adress to which is the problem they always play with which is not important or not an issue thats the funny part:):):)

TheHsN

Tnx Zos you are still keep going to destroy my DW MagSorc it is like u are saying me we dont want you in this game anymore...Cuz i only play PVP and only play with My DW MAG SORC ... pls keep going like that ...eventually i will say enough and stop playing ESO ..

Thank you...

@ZOS_RichLambert

DragonBound

TheHsN wrote: »

Tnx Zos you are still keep going to destroy my DW MagSorc it is like u are saying me we dont want you in this game anymore...Cuz i only play PVP and only play with My DW MAG SORC ... pls keep going like that ...eventually i will say enough and stop playing ESO ..

Thank you...

@ZOS_RichLambert

I am sorry but I cannot agree this is destroying the magsorc, all you did was look a little different with dual wield it does not mean you used the weapons, now things are more balanced with 2h, and the staff got a nice increase, I really do not see the big deal, if anything I thought it was lame you cannot actually use the swords and be effective anyways being magicka thats the real problem.

TheHsN

CosmicSoul wrote: »

TheHsN wrote: »

Tnx Zos you are still keep going to destroy my DW MagSorc it is like u are saying me we dont want you in this game anymore...Cuz i only play PVP and only play with My DW MAG SORC ... pls keep going like that ...eventually i will say enough and stop playing ESO ..

Thank you...

@ZOS_RichLambert

I am sorry but I cannot agree this is destroying the magsorc, all you did was look a little different with dual wield it does not mean you used the weapons, now things are more balanced with 2h, and the staff got a nice increase, I really do not see the big deal, if anything I thought it was lame you cannot actually use the swords and be effective anyways being magicka thats the real problem.

Pls read better my mate,

I said "MY" MagSORC...!!! mean my build my play style that im having fun to...
I play with DW sorc and my main dps skill is velicious curse on this build is all Based SPELLDAMAGE...with burst
But for me now they destroyed that with those changes that it was not NEEDED...
Believe me there are MORE biger issues they need to change AS in the name of BALANCE...
What they adressed to make balance are not really to bring balance