The grind for the vMA sharpened inferno staff is taking up ALL of my ingame time

Molec

The drop rate on this piece is so abysmal that on a regular days gaming I'm running time after time after time after time until the hour becomes utterly unsociable, I go to bed and awake ready for another day only to be faced with the same old BS. This has been the case for over 1 year now and it has totally consumed ESO for me and many others that I know, it's absurd! Was this content supposed to be genuine eCrack? Did the ZOS staff responsible for the arena and it's loot really think forcing people to grind for 100s of hours in a single player instance was appropriate in this MMO? Is RNG "working as intended" when you have people close to 200 runs (90 minute time trial) without the sharp inferno staff? Somebody should be held accountable as collectively there are a lifetimes worth of hours being wasted chasing this damned weapon when peoples valuable time could be invested elsewhere in the game actually having fun!!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Alanar

It's actually worse than that. 1/256 players will not get this item after 800 runs.

SaRuZ

Not worth it imo. Game is supposed to be fun. Spending days, weeks even farming the same thing over and over for a 1/20000 RNG chance of getting an item is a waste of energy.

isthatujonwayne

Don't want to sound like an arse hole but I've had it 7 times. I hate seeing it drop now. The sharpened dagger or battle axe is myth for me

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO

RNG can be a curse and a blessing. I like playing stamina dunmer DK with a bow, and guess what on my second run it dropped the sharpened inferno staff.

Therefore, I figured i need to farm for BSW set and transition to Magicka for the first time. Turns out I did not like magicka even though it does more damage, so the staff is in the bank for safe keeping

They really should only leave precise and sharpened for bows and staffs. And also precise, sharpened and defensive for one handed weapons.

acw37162

And then comes the search for a sharpened burning spellweave inferno staff

Equally as brutal

mb10

Ive run MSA over 50 times and have NEVER had a sharpened weapon of any kind.
Bear in mind i used to run it when a weapon wasnt even guaranteed!

Did it a bit during double loot but i will never return to that place again until they sort out drops. Have my flawless title and defending inferno which has probably saved my ass on more than one occasion tbh

newtinmpls

And you are still doing this?

I would hate that. So I don't do it.

wolfxspice

token system, but seriously, i'v run it 200+ times, 1 inferno staff defending, not even 1 sharpened staff, accept restos. but i'v talked to people who have run it ONCE, and got the sharp fire staff their first run, then never went back in their, this isn't ok, they need to do something to fix it.

Jaronking

I ran it 300+ times and never received a sharpened 2h weapon.Which has a better drop rate then the inferno its just stupid.

Nebthet78

ZOS needs to fix all the drops rates for everything!! I'm so sick and tired of the grind, grind grind.

Messy1

Yeah, it's bad, real, bad, even fir the casual such as myself who just wants normal MA stuff.

ZOS the problem is that you've made end game a gear grind game, which is inherently NOT FUN.

KingYogi415

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/307877/vet-maelstrom-arena-needs-a-hard-mode/p1

Devs seem solid on ignoring this issue...

Cheers!

GoodFella146

They just need to make it so that if you get flawless, you get to pick whatever the F you want

Wollust

But rng is fun according to a certain dev

code65536

Then stop doing it. You can complete all the content in the game without a sharp vMA fire staff.

The loot system is atrocious. There are too many trash traits and items. And randomness is neither fair nor rewarding. And you know all this first-hand. So why keep throwing yourself at the mercy of this broken system, esp. if you're not enjoying it?

redspecter23

ZOS is aware that some players will never get the best in slot items they are looking for and they seem to be ok with that. I believe any best in slot item should be attainable eventually, but that's just me... and a lot of other players here too I think.

WalksonGraves

Easy solution: make the drops boe.

Jaronking

The best solution would be just allow us to trade VMA weapons with someone who has completed VMA.

raidentenshu_ESO

code65536 wrote: »

Then stop doing it. You can complete all the content in the game without a sharp vMA fire staff.

The loot system is atrocious. There are too many trash traits and items. And randomness is neither fair nor rewarding. And you know all this first-hand. So why keep throwing yourself at the mercy of this broken system, esp. if you're not enjoying it?

Says the person who has characters who heavily relies on vMA weapons

Anyhow some of us are competitive trial players who already done or chooses to skip the causal gameplay settings. ZOS made it so that we must have these weapons to Increase our overall DPS status. Most popular HIGH DPS builds requires vMA sharpen weapons to give out maximum performance.

Most guilds won't even let you toggle along for veteran trials (Especially vMOL) without doing some sort of DPS Test to prove that you're holding your own weight.

LadyNalcarya

Seriously, people keep creating these threads since Orsinium release, but things only got worse since then (you have a lower chance for a sharpened weapon because loot table is cluttered with useless traits).
Whoever is responsible for ESO loot system should be fired. It just kills the fun and makes people ragequit. A lot of Asian mmos (that are known for their grindyness) are less grindy than vMA for us unlucky players.
This is just terrible. No one likes the system, but its still there because some people in ZOS think that its fun... GG.

Shader_Shibes

code65536 wrote: »

Then stop doing it. You can complete all the content in the game without a sharp vMA fire staff.

This. A couple K less dps isnt the be all end all.

Shader_Shibes

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Easy solution: make the drops boe.

BlackEar

We need a token system, please Zenimax we implore you to do something like this

code65536

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Says the person who has characters who heavily relies on vMA weapons

vMA weapons will not make or break your build.

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Anyhow some of us are competitive trial players who already done or chooses to skip the causal gameplay settings.

You're not one of them (your post history makes this abundantly clear), so why do you speak as if you were?

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

ZOS made it so that we must have these weapons to Increase our overall DPS status. Most popular HIGH DPS builds requires vMA sharpen weapons to give out maximum performance.

Most guilds won't even let you toggle along for veteran trials (Especially vMOL) without doing some sort of DPS Test to prove that you're holding your own weight.

That you hold this misconception further reinforces my previous point. There are a lot of good players who, despite never getting the unicorn staff, have competitively completed the hardest content, and there are a lot of players who, despite having the unicorn staff, still struggle.


The loot system is atrocious. Nobody is going to deny that. What I don't understand is why people keep grinding vMA for it if they know that the loot system sucks and if they don't enjoy it. There are people who run vMA hundreds of times because they like it and because they are trying to top the vMA boards, and that's fine. But if the only reason to run it is for the weapon, and you know what the loot system is like, then why run it?

Meld777

vMA last chest - generating revenues for Black Desert Online since Dark Brotherhood

I've been playing ESO for over 2 years and have met many great people here that were all loyal, competitive players. You have no idea how many of those players I've seen quit just because of vMA RNG over the last year (50+). And almost all of them went to BDO and formed a guild there. And those weren't casual players. Those were players that were very passionate about fair end-game competition, saw gaming as their main hobby, and were happy to support ESO financially. Now they're dropping their money on BDO.

For those that don't know it: vMA weapons were obtainable quite easily before Dark Brotherhood. Weapons only dropped in good traits and every weekly reward guaranteed you a Sharpened, Precise or Defending weapon, so 2/3 chance to get something you can use (and, honestly, Defending can be useful as well on certain weapons). That's when most end players who have their weapons and didn't quit yet got their weapons. The others were forced to quit with Dark Brotherhood, since that's when the trait pollution was introduced. The chance for fair end-game competition was taken away that day, since desired weapons became (statistically) unobtainable to those who didn't have them yet.

Chuga_Rei

At least no one in this thread did what I did. Accidentally break down my sharpened inferno staff when I unlocked it to upgrade it(it got lost in the 30 other destro staves I have of every trait but sharp) only to have zos refuse to replace it

FearlessOne_2014

code65536 wrote: »

Then stop doing it. You can complete all the content in the game without a sharp vMA fire staff.

The loot system is atrocious. There are too many trash traits and items. And randomness is neither fair nor rewarding. And you know all this first-hand. So why keep throwing yourself at the mercy of this broken system, esp. if you're not enjoying it?

I highly agree with you here. Which is why I no longer do this.

raidentenshu_ESO

code65536 wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Says the person who has characters who heavily relies on vMA weapons

vMA weapons will not make or break your build.

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Anyhow some of us are competitive trial players who already done or chooses to skip the causal gameplay settings.

You're not one of them (your post history makes this abundantly clear), so why do you speak as if you were?

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

ZOS made it so that we must have these weapons to Increase our overall DPS status. Most popular HIGH DPS builds requires vMA sharpen weapons to give out maximum performance.

Most guilds won't even let you toggle along for veteran trials (Especially vMOL) without doing some sort of DPS Test to prove that you're holding your own weight.

That you hold this misconception further reinforces my previous point. There are a lot of good players who, despite never getting the unicorn staff, have competitively completed the hardest content, and there are a lot of players who, despite having the unicorn staff, still struggle.


The loot system is atrocious. Nobody is going to deny that. What I don't understand is why people keep grinding vMA for it if they know that the loot system sucks and if they don't enjoy it. There are people who run vMA hundreds of times because they like it and because they are trying to top the vMA boards, and that's fine. But if the only reason to run it is for the weapon, and you know what the loot system is like, then why run it?

What do you mean that I'm not one of them? You base this off of my previous post? How? So far I've done vSO - HM, vHRC -HM and did vAA.... hopefully I'll do HM soon enough. My name has been on the leaderboard a few times now, and received gold items in my mailbox as a result of my name still sticking by the end of the week.

vMA weapons won't break your build but improve it quite significantly. Why do you think so many people are slaving away endlessness grinding for these weapons? To improve their build and to boost up their DPS..... because you this game is all about how high you can get your DPS during boss fights. Numbers are quite significant in this game. It's like being back in math class again.

ZOS created this problem when they introduce this terrible content in the game.

SublimeSparo

Do what i did.
Give up.
It's not worth it.
*** waste of time that *** content.

peniku8

acw37162 wrote: »

And then comes the search for a sharpened burning spellweave inferno staff

Equally as brutal

if you're a DK or a sorcerer you can grind for either, idk whats the better solution but I don't even have an IA nor a moondancer staff, I wish I could run BIS gear and get the best out of my build