Where i suggested the "abuse" of the stealth mechanics? really, qoute the specific part of my post where i said that. Also show me the line of where stealth is ok and where is "exploited", so i least can understand what is your concept of exploit. If i press the cloak button, i'm exploiting it? ..
What i said about nightblades self-healing is a fact, not a build problem. Nightblades get their healing from vigor crits while cloaked (or you can use broken *** like vitality pots, but that's is another discussion for another day), if you remove cloak form your bar, your literally ditched half of your healing, simple as that.
I didn't do any mention to a ganking build, my entire post was from a perspective of a non-ganking build using cloak. Using cloak to provide a dmg boost to your combos, is completely different to having an entire build made for one-shoots with things like magelight, divines gear and proc sets (in my book, that would be abusing the stealth mechanic). ANY nightblade will use cloak in a offensive and a defensive way, and that doesn't mean that is gank build, is just part of their combo.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »It's called having situational awareness. If you're stupid enough to just be sitting there, not in combat and are too lazy to put your shields on then yes, a prepared player should have an advantage.
You are just repeating yourself. The advantage is already there, you said it : the guy is unprepared ! Not being prepared is already a disadvantage, what do you not understand about that?
I understand your point, I simply do not and will not agree.
So you do acknowledge that the stealthed player already has an advantage just by being stealthed already ?
Also to further debunk your logic, you said "It's called having situational awareness. If you're stupid enough to just be sitting there, not in combat and are too lazy to put your shields on then yes, a prepared player should have an advantage."
so therefore, a player who stacks his shields, and keeps his buffs up because he knows a stealther is around should not take bonus damage then? If he has situational awareness, why does the nightblade deserve bonus damage and stun?
It probably has a bit to do with nightblades lacking a lot of the amenities of other classes.
No shields, no major healing, no good class defensive abilities. The only thing nightblades have is bonus damage from stealth and dark cloak.
Once again, we aren't talking about nightblades, so I don't see what nightblade defensive abilities have to do with this. I'm fine with cloak personnaly, but I'd love to see stealth tweaked.
The arguments from people trying to support that stealth is fine as is right now are some of the worst Ive seen.
Darnathian wrote: »The arguments from people trying to support that stealth is fine as is right now are some of the worst Ive seen.
The topic of the thread is Miats Add On. It was definitely not intended. Stealth damage being a problem, although i agree, was not what this thread was about.
It should be much harder to stealth. You shoulf be in a bush or something. Lol. Then leave the damage muliplier as is. But plane sight sneaking is dumb. Using cloak in plain sight is fine, as its a spell. But crouching in the middle of a field should just get you kicked in the face imo.
There are much bigger issues that sould be addressed. Heavy armor, Stam Sorcs, etc. Most nbs get thier one kill and die. The others do not. They go on rediculous kill streaks.
HA and Stam Sorcs are completely broken
The arguments from people trying to support that stealth is fine as is right now are some of the worst Ive seen.
The arguments from people trying to support that stealth is fine as is right now are some of the worst Ive seen.
Stealth needs to lose the stun or the damage bonus in PVP. Bottom line. Pick one.
Nightblades can easily put together a more viable build with far more sustain and defense, but then they can't one shot gank with that. Which is why N O N E of them do it.
The arguments from people trying to support that stealth is fine as is right now are some of the worst Ive seen.
Stealth needs to lose the stun or the damage bonus in PVP. Bottom line. Pick one.
Nightblades can easily put together a more viable build with far more sustain and defense, but then they can't one shot gank with that. Which is why N O N E of them do it.
thankyourat wrote: »The arguments from people trying to support that stealth is fine as is right now are some of the worst Ive seen.
Stealth needs to lose the stun or the damage bonus in PVP. Bottom line. Pick one.
Nightblades can easily put together a more viable build with far more sustain and defense, but then they can't one shot gank with that. Which is why N O N E of them do it.
As a nightblade your offense is your defense and that's for both stam and magic. That's why all nightblades run high burst damage builds. You are trying to get your opponent to turtle up on defense and while he's turtled drop his block. The nightblade class by design can't turtle up. It's the only class in the games that can't trade periods of defense for offense. If you go defensive on a nightblade you die, unless you build a full on tank build, but if you want to do that why not just play a dk
As for the damage from stealth I agree it's a huge problem but as long as damage is so high in general there is no way to fix it. I can one shot a player without stealth as could any solid PvP build, so once you start hitting people with that kind of damage from stealth without any buffs up it gets ridiculous. It wouldn't matter if you lose the 10℅ damage bonus or the stun, people will still be getting one shot from stealth
The heavy attack from stealth is extremely telegraphed though, even if you can't see your opponent because of the audio que the game gives. You can here heavy bow and staff attacks, and the attacking player yells before heavy melee attacks. This audio que always allows you to get a block up before the attack lands. The only problem I have is when you are outnumbered, when fighting it's incredibly difficult to hear the attack. But if it's a solo gasket they only pose a threat if you aren't paying attention
In Vivec (NA) there are a number of players using an add on or cheat engine that tells them when I shoot a focused aim at them. And they roll dodge. Trust me, I have 1,000s of killing blows. I know the difference between a random roll dodge that saved you versus a consistent dodge while the shot is on its way.
I will start making notes and report the players to ZOS. The frustrating thing is that ZOS rarely does anything. So if this ruins the game for me I will make some videos showing exactly what I am talking about and shame the players who are using this exploit.
For now I can tell you that I am in AD and I've noticed at least 5 EP players using this and a few DC.
In Vivec (NA) there are a number of players using an add on or cheat engine that tells them when I shoot a focused aim at them. And they roll dodge. Trust me, I have 1,000s of killing blows. I know the difference between a random roll dodge that saved you versus a consistent dodge while the shot is on its way.
I will start making notes and report the players to ZOS. The frustrating thing is that ZOS rarely does anything. So if this ruins the game for me I will make some videos showing exactly what I am talking about and shame the players who are using this exploit.
For now I can tell you that I am in AD and I've noticed at least 5 EP players using this and a few DC.
In Vivec (NA) there are a number of players using an add on or cheat engine that tells them when I shoot a focused aim at them. And they roll dodge. Trust me, I have 1,000s of killing blows. I know the difference between a random roll dodge that saved you versus a consistent dodge while the shot is on its way.
I will start making notes and report the players to ZOS. The frustrating thing is that ZOS rarely does anything. So if this ruins the game for me I will make some videos showing exactly what I am talking about and shame the players who are using this exploit.
For now I can tell you that I am in AD and I've noticed at least 5 EP players using this and a few DC.
In Vivec (NA) there are a number of players using an add on or cheat engine that tells them when I shoot a focused aim at them. And they roll dodge. Trust me, I have 1,000s of killing blows. I know the difference between a random roll dodge that saved you versus a consistent dodge while the shot is on its way.
I will start making notes and report the players to ZOS. The frustrating thing is that ZOS rarely does anything. So if this ruins the game for me I will make some videos showing exactly what I am talking about and shame the players who are using this exploit.
For now I can tell you that I am in AD and I've noticed at least 5 EP players using this and a few DC.
It's not an exploit though. It's an addon that Zos allow. @ESO_GAMER
In Vivec (NA) there are a number of players using an add on or cheat engine that tells them when I shoot a focused aim at them. And they roll dodge. Trust me, I have 1,000s of killing blows. I know the difference between a random roll dodge that saved you versus a consistent dodge while the shot is on its way.
I will start making notes and report the players to ZOS. The frustrating thing is that ZOS rarely does anything. So if this ruins the game for me I will make some videos showing exactly what I am talking about and shame the players who are using this exploit.
For now I can tell you that I am in AD and I've noticed at least 5 EP players using this and a few DC.
It's not an exploit though. It's an addon that Zos allow. @ESO_GAMER
U can say what u want, ZOS assume problems about engine of the game. This is not news. About Mia Addon (or ANY addon) i know one with a exploit in armor (i use only one addon, skyshard). I send feedback, but, nothing...
Addons are a problem, in my point of view.
In Vivec (NA) there are a number of players using an add on or cheat engine that tells them when I shoot a focused aim at them. And they roll dodge. Trust me, I have 1,000s of killing blows. I know the difference between a random roll dodge that saved you versus a consistent dodge while the shot is on its way.
I will start making notes and report the players to ZOS. The frustrating thing is that ZOS rarely does anything. So if this ruins the game for me I will make some videos showing exactly what I am talking about and shame the players who are using this exploit.
For now I can tell you that I am in AD and I've noticed at least 5 EP players using this and a few DC.
It's not an exploit though. It's an addon that Zos allow. @ESO_GAMER
U can say what u want, ZOS assume problems about engine of the game. This is not news. About Mia Addon (or ANY addon) i know one with a exploit in armor (i use only one addon, skyshard). I send feedback, but, nothing...
Addons are a problem, in my point of view.
Well "in my point of view" skyshards addon is a hack and cheating addon too as it helps players find skyshards without exploring. You are therefore a cheater just like the rest of us.
Also, I'm a big fan of yours and I'm so proud you've replied to me. I've seen pictures of your whispers to other players they're truly amazing.
In Vivec (NA) there are a number of players using an add on or cheat engine that tells them when I shoot a focused aim at them. And they roll dodge. Trust me, I have 1,000s of killing blows. I know the difference between a random roll dodge that saved you versus a consistent dodge while the shot is on its way.
I will start making notes and report the players to ZOS. The frustrating thing is that ZOS rarely does anything. So if this ruins the game for me I will make some videos showing exactly what I am talking about and shame the players who are using this exploit.
For now I can tell you that I am in AD and I've noticed at least 5 EP players using this and a few DC.
It's not an exploit though. It's an addon that Zos allow. @ESO_GAMER
U can say what u want, ZOS assume problems about engine of the game. This is not news. About Mia Addon (or ANY addon) i know one with a exploit in armor (i use only one addon, skyshard). I send feedback, but, nothing...
Addons are a problem, in my point of view.
asneakybanana wrote: »In Vivec (NA) there are a number of players using an add on or cheat engine that tells them when I shoot a focused aim at them. And they roll dodge. Trust me, I have 1,000s of killing blows. I know the difference between a random roll dodge that saved you versus a consistent dodge while the shot is on its way.
I will start making notes and report the players to ZOS. The frustrating thing is that ZOS rarely does anything. So if this ruins the game for me I will make some videos showing exactly what I am talking about and shame the players who are using this exploit.
For now I can tell you that I am in AD and I've noticed at least 5 EP players using this and a few DC.
It's not an exploit though. It's an addon that Zos allow. @ESO_GAMER
U can say what u want, ZOS assume problems about engine of the game. This is not news. About Mia Addon (or ANY addon) i know one with a exploit in armor (i use only one addon, skyshard). I send feedback, but, nothing...
Addons are a problem, in my point of view.
Iskra, if you don't like addons simply go to console. Youve been banned enough on PC and relevelled enough that its probably just better off for you to go to console where its much harder to send rage whispers and they dont have all the "exploits" that we here on PC have.
kyle.wilson wrote: »It's funny that the defense of the addon is about proc builds, yet the addon was made by a guy running a proctard build that was crying about being one shotted.
https://youtu.be/aqEq8mxwt2M