Miat's PVP Alerts Addon

ESO_GAMER

Well, I stand corrected. I forgot the focused aim attack from stealth triggers a sound effect for your target. And hats off to the fellow nb who corrected me in game.

If any add on makes it so you gain a combat advantage that should obviously be banned.

If ZOS really wanted to fix PVP once and for all they need to add native support for Alpha Gear or Wyknd's Gear. Why would you make a game with billions of combinations in terms of gear, skills, passives and make it so tedious to switch from one to the other.

I use Alpha Gear but it glitches sometimes and gets me killed. But on my NB I can go from an extreme high damage build and skills to an extreme tank build to an extreme healer build with the press of one button - when it doesn't glitch.

It's a bit naive for any player to use one set of armor and skills for all situations. That's like being geared and trained in the military for bomb squad and then going out in a jungle and expecting to dominate in close quarters hand to hand combat. Not gonna work.

Baconlad

The only build thats shutdown by an addon...and people are defending the addon?

Gankers are built for one thing, that thing being to gank! Not duel, not raid, not contribute to anything campaignwise, they are squish AF and drop like a sack of ***. Their bar is cluttered with skills to boost the damage of one or two skills...they are built to hit two or three extrenely powerful skills.

There is a counter, that counter being to have quicker refexes and breakfree faster! And if you die? Respawn and get the *** over yourself. If you dont want to build for passive ganking counters through having more resists or health, then you should die if you cant break free fast enough.

To download an addon that tells you to block or dodge...ur a no skill POS scrub.
Remember that...an ADDON shutting down a build.

Its like you building a 1vX god, only to have it shut down by a bull *** addon

Baconlad

And for the love of god give us two CP loadouts XD

HoloYoitsu

Baconlad wrote: »

There is a counter, that counter being to have quicker refexes and breakfree faster! And if you die? Respawn and get the *** over yourself.

Maybe if the game's CC system functioned properly. About half the time you're Incap'd CC break gets artificially delayed/unresponsive, and let's not forget the floppy fish CCs

Baconlad wrote: »

If you dont want to build for passive ganking counters through having more resists or health, then you should die if you cant break free fast enough.

Because onslaught totally cares about your resists, and everyone should just run 35k hp builds that become incapable of any dps just to not get 1-2 shot.

Baconlad wrote: »

To download an addon that tells you to block or dodge...ur a no skill POS scrub.

If you rely on stealth 1-2 shot combos to get kills, perhaps you are the one who should actually be questioning his skills.

FearlessOne_2014

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

This addon is a crutch, end of story. Use it if you like, it's allowed, but you'll get no props for sweet gameplay from me with your telegraphed psychic PvP.

And I know I speak for more than just myself here.

I'll say the same for proc set stackers and gankers. Two sides of the side coin ah?

Both are allowed.

Both are a crutch.

Both are just as cheesy as the other.

FearlessOne_2014

Baconlad wrote: »

The only build thats shutdown by an addon...and people are defending the addon?

Gankers are built for one thing, that thing being to gank! Not duel, not raid, not contribute to anything campaignwise, they are squish AF and drop like a sack of ***. Their bar is cluttered with skills to boost the damage of one or two skills...they are built to hit two or three extrenely powerful skills.

There is a counter, that counter being to have quicker refexes and breakfree faster! And if you die? Respawn and get the *** over yourself. If you dont want to build for passive ganking counters through having more resists or health, then you should die if you cant break free fast enough.

To download an addon that tells you to block or dodge...ur a no skill POS scrub.
Remember that...an ADDON shutting down a build.

Its like you building a 1vX god, only to have it shut down by a bull *** addon

And players come to PvP for one thing, that is to PvP. Not get ganked over and over again by someone elses gear.

There is a counter to the addon. It's called to learn how to actually play the game. Instead of crying because something as giving people a chance to defend themselves from your insta proc gank.

To stack proc sets that kills players for you... ur a no skill POS scrub.
Remember that is... gear instantly killing players for you.

It's like you building a character that can 15 v 40 only to have it shut down by a bull *** proc set gear stacker.


There... see how that looks now?

Gothren

I play a sorc and have been against this addon since inception. funny when I am in stealth and charge up a frag they seem to magically dodge at the right moment even when engaged with guards. the addon is a joke and a clear indicator of a players willingness to cheat because they lack skill.

kadar

Gothren wrote: »

I play a sorc and have been against this addon since inception. funny when I am in stealth and charge up a frag they seem to magically dodge at the right moment even when engaged with guards. the addon is a joke and a clear indicator of a players willingness to cheat because they lack skill.

@Gothren Those of us who run projectile builds need to simply start accounting for the addons presence in our playstyle. Cause frankly, it's not going anywhere. We need to anticipate that players caught up doing other things, running away, looking another direction, ect. are being notified and will likely dodge our damage even when they normally wouldn't be able to.

I still sigh a little inside when unaware players dodge a destro heavy from 28 meters behind them. All I can do is "lol" and charge another!

FearlessOne_2014

Gothren wrote: »

I play a sorc and have been against this addon since inception. funny when I am in stealth and charge up a frag they seem to magically dodge at the right moment even when engaged with guards. the addon is a joke and a clear indicator of a players willingness to cheat because they lack skill.

The_Outsider wrote: »

Gothren wrote: »

I play a sorc and have been against this addon since inception. funny when I am in stealth and charge up a frag they seem to magically dodge at the right moment even when engaged with guards. the addon is a joke and a clear indicator of a players willingness to cheat because they lack skill.

@Gothren Those of us who run projectile builds need to simply start accounting for the addons presence in our playstyle. Cause frankly, it's not going anywhere. We need to anticipate that players caught up doing other things, running away, looking another direction, ect. are being notified and will likely dodge our damage even when they normally wouldn't be able to.

I still sigh a little inside when unaware players dodge a destro heavy from 28 meters behind them. All I can do is "lol" and charge another!

Both of you holier then thou guys. No one outside of skill-less gear carried proc gankers care. Yall are just.

Gothren

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Gothren wrote: »

I play a sorc and have been against this addon since inception. funny when I am in stealth and charge up a frag they seem to magically dodge at the right moment even when engaged with guards. the addon is a joke and a clear indicator of a players willingness to cheat because they lack skill.

The_Outsider wrote: »

Gothren wrote: »

I play a sorc and have been against this addon since inception. funny when I am in stealth and charge up a frag they seem to magically dodge at the right moment even when engaged with guards. the addon is a joke and a clear indicator of a players willingness to cheat because they lack skill.

@Gothren Those of us who run projectile builds need to simply start accounting for the addons presence in our playstyle. Cause frankly, it's not going anywhere. We need to anticipate that players caught up doing other things, running away, looking another direction, ect. are being notified and will likely dodge our damage even when they normally wouldn't be able to.

I still sigh a little inside when unaware players dodge a destro heavy from 28 meters behind them. All I can do is "lol" and charge another!

Both of you holier then thou guys. No one outside of skill-less gear carried proc gankers care. Yall are just.

my point was simply how many players will engage in cheating when giving the opportunity. I remember back in the day the vampire ultimate spam and how many abused it until it was fixed.

kadar

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Gothren wrote: »

I play a sorc and have been against this addon since inception. funny when I am in stealth and charge up a frag they seem to magically dodge at the right moment even when engaged with guards. the addon is a joke and a clear indicator of a players willingness to cheat because they lack skill.

The_Outsider wrote: »

Gothren wrote: »

I play a sorc and have been against this addon since inception. funny when I am in stealth and charge up a frag they seem to magically dodge at the right moment even when engaged with guards. the addon is a joke and a clear indicator of a players willingness to cheat because they lack skill.

@Gothren Those of us who run projectile builds need to simply start accounting for the addons presence in our playstyle. Cause frankly, it's not going anywhere. We need to anticipate that players caught up doing other things, running away, looking another direction, ect. are being notified and will likely dodge our damage even when they normally wouldn't be able to.

I still sigh a little inside when unaware players dodge a destro heavy from 28 meters behind them. All I can do is "lol" and charge another!

Both of you holier then thou guys. No one outside of skill-less gear carried proc gankers care. Yall are just.

You're not really aware of what's going on here. Miat's addon has had very little to do with proc gankers since the API change and more to do with projectiles/heavy attacks, or at least that's the largest way it influences the game in my opinion.

Why contribute to a discussion when you can just slap your favorite meme down and insult the folks you know nothing about?

Biro123

Said it before, I don't like what the add-on does in terms of alerts. I've ran a number of builds based around high damage procced frags, burst that has to be set up, and this add-on counters it, hard.

Saying that, its like nukes. Luke it or not, they exist, and if you don't have them, you are in a weak position compared to those who do.

So basically,v whether you agree with the add-on or not, you have to use it or your at a disadvantage to almost everyone else..

(BTW, I do like the 3D icons..)

Now that said, I'm having problems getting the latest version to work.. Lui errors with both it and sorc helper appear when its enabled. Perhaps a conflict between the two?

MoeCoastie

so, Im sitting afk in the middle of nowhere like I do often. I get back to my keyboard and see 2 blues running by at a decent distance from me. I literally just panned my camera around to get my bearings from being afk and these guys stopped started looking around as if preparing to attacked and even holding block occassionally.

Is this Miat's addon? Is there any thing I can do at my end to avoid this addon like going "anon" or something?

Jawasa

It's not. Miats do not show people in stealth and no longer shows attacks charged from stealth.

MoeCoastie

Jawasa wrote: »

It's not. Miats do not show people in stealth and no longer shows attacks charged from stealth.

ah, okay. I was told it notifies people when someone (with character name?) is in the area. I have no experience with it. have only read about it in /zone chat and here.

rfennell_ESO

Jawasa wrote: »

It's not. Miats do not show people in stealth and no longer shows attacks charged from stealth.

It doesn't show heavy attacks (medium and light as well) from stealth.

It 100% absolutely shows all other attacks from stealth though.

Mr_Nobody

Half of the cyrodiil is blocking when i cast my Dark Flare. Fun to watch though.

rfennell_ESO

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

Half of the cyrodiil is blocking when i cast my Dark Flare. Fun to watch though.

Worst part of it is you can't juke people.... it won't send the alert unless you launch the attack. So cancelling it just before launch with block doesn't work at all.

G0ku

I thought this will be fixed, oh lol. Guess it´s time to finally download it myself...

Feanor

Well. In a Game where you can hit 20k+ Dark Flares from stealth..,

Blud

G0ku wrote: »

I thought this will be fixed, oh lol. Guess it´s time to finally download it myself...

Sadly, no other choice. Makes snipe a total waste of time, though. You only kill people who don't have the addon. That seems like less than 50% now.

ecru

ah so this is why people are dodge rolling like they have eyes on every side of their head

pretty disappointing that zos allows this

Lokey0024

AKA its not cheating if everyone is uses it, right? What do you mean im morally depraved, they do it too!.

This is online gaming in a nutshell.

Anethum

this addon brokes the fighting system in eso (players learn to skip animation for better burst to be harder predictable, train combos, on nightblades this is the most important when u're glass cannon but with high burst potential, it's not easy, it takes a lot of lifetime...).
And, this addon makes all thit work completly useless.
I'm sure using of this is same as using an exploit. And @ZOS_GinaBruno, it's a big miss of Zos team - that system can give such data's in pvp for addon...It ruin's fight system.
Still not prohibited but extremly should be.
In pve Raid Notifier (same principle of work as i understand) isimportant in trials, because of bad latency in general (MoL on twins or last boss is still bugged, still sometimes u get no any visual and voice notifications... i hate this garbage).
But, lets return to pvp.
In pvp this ruin game for half of players.

P.s: I have and play all classes, not the advocate of any certain and very very dissapointed of last 5 month in eso.

Enodoc

diplomatt wrote: »

this addon brokes the fighting system in eso (players learn to skip animation for better burst to be harder predictable, train combos, on nightblades this is the most important when u're glass cannon but with high burst potential, it's not easy, it takes a lot of lifetime...).
And, this addon makes all thit work completly useless.
I think its exploit to use it. And Wrobel, it's your big miss - because system can give such data's in pvp for addon...
Still not prohibited but extremly should be.
In pve Raid Notifier (same principle of work as i understand) is extremly needed in trials, because of bad latency in general (MoL on twins or last boss is bugged ***, still sometimes u get no any visual and voice notifications... i hate this garbage).
But, lets return to pvp.
In pvp this ruin game for half of players.

P.s: I have and play all classes, not the advocate of any certain and very very dissapointed of last 5 month in eso.

Wait... this add-on makes animation cancelling useless? Maybe that's why they haven't made efforts to disable it...

Anethum

umm, pardon, missed that this tread is for Miat's PvP alerts, i didn't tested it, hope it will not include same *** as Miat's cc tracker. If it also includes cc notifications...no matter.

UnseenTruth

poor Duke

SodanTok

Please, continue the discussion here, away from eyes of ZoS team so they dont feel bad not responding.

TequilaFire

An official necro thread! lmao
#hypocrisy

Dorrino

Aaaand welcome!