No Storage With Player Housing at Initial Release - Can you PLEASE rethink this ZOS?

Vaoh

Since the release of ESO on PS4, I have long awaited player housing.

It has been my favorite feature in every Elder Scrolls game since Morrowind, and the single thing I have always invested most of my time into when I play these games. The ability to store what I found in my travels and have a place feel like "home" was incredible. Having been promised player housing by ZOS, I decided to play ESO the same way I've played other TES games.

Currently I have 655 Champion Points, and have completed everything there is to complete with the exception of vMoL HM. I have two main characters - A Magicka Sorc DPS and a Hybrid Sorc Tank. The rest are almost strictly pack mule characters.

My massive array of stored items lays out as follows:
- All Maelstrom Sets (armor & jewelry), BiS traits
- All Rewards of the Worthy Sets (armor, jewelry, many weapons), BiS traits
- All Shadows of the Hist Sets (armor, jewelry, many weapons), BiS traits
- All Monster sets, nearly all BiS traits
- All Maelstrom/Master Weapons, nearly all BiS traits
- TONS and TONS of other sets from dungeons/open world, BiS traits
- Hundreds of slots of materials since my Crafting Bag expired
- TONS of unique items, many of which can no longer drop
- Many of trophies, purple treasures, etc
- 100+ extra Kothringi/Mazzatun styled items for future decon (to acquire style mats)
- Plenty of PvP-related stuff, and lots of miscellaneous things
- TONS of my own crafted items and sets that I use

Essentially it boils down to me have 0 space left on any of my pack mules, and maybe about 1-20 left on my Magicka Sorc, with a full bank. Organizing is practically impossible at this point due to a lot of stuff getting kind of messy and mixed on multiple characters. I managed to keep everything organized for a very long time, but have recently let it fall apart. I stopped caring because I heard player housing was coming out and my organization nightmare would finally be solved!

Of course..... that was until I read this....

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Extra storage in your home is something we know a number of you would love. It's something we'd love as well, but when we looked at all of the things had to get in for the base system, we had to draw the line somewhere. Additional storage didn't make the cut.

*sigh* ...... HOW did this happen!? Who thought this was a good idea? Never have I heard of a game where player housing did not allow storage. This is the very definition of missing the mark.

Will it arrive in the future? Well yes, just wait another 3-6 months after player housing comes out and you might be able to store some stuff. It's hard to believe that this quote is even real right now. A house with NO STORAGE.....

To ZOS: Please don't taint such a great system by failing to add in the most important component of it at release. It's like giving us a third tier of Master weapons with enchants that don't work, or a new trial that can be entered but nothing spawns and there is no loot. Housing can look as fancy as it wants, but why bother when all of the cabinets and chests are fake? I'm not paying 1,000,000 gold for an illustrious manor full of fake furniture only for you to "add in the feature" many months later. -_-

I'm a player who was seriously counting on Player Housing for storage, and is now in a terrible position. This can't just take another 3-6 months to add. It's way too important to Player Housing for you to just say it "didn't make the cut". Remove anything else.... just let us USE the house please. Add in additional storage before you release player housing, not awhile after. What's the point of my house if I can't put my own loot in it?

Thank you - that is all. I don't think I've ever been this bummed out over a new in-game feature before. Totally 100% dead to me now because the most basic feature was left out. Thank you for the hype while it lasted

nagarjunna

I'll not be buying a house if I can't put stuff in it...

altemriel

I totally agree, introducing housing and not including storage with it is just riduculous, lame and making the housing obsolete....


Please ZOS rethink this!!!


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_TristanK @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_RichLambert

crusnik91

Cannot agree less. Oh guys I bought a house! Wait... I am not allow to store items in it?... yea lets just wait to the bank then..

White wabbit

Well atleast we are getting a respite from the crown crates everyone is moaning about housing instead lol

Malmai

Zenimax is always doin opposite of what people want...

Enslaved

What?! Housing without storage!? How "prosperous"...

Well, I can get back to spending coin on gold jewelry in Cyrodiil then. No need to save it for something as silly as storageless houses.

FoolishHuman

I'm glad it doesn't have storage in it. I don't want houses to be anything else but cosmetic. I really have no interest getting one. They should just increse the max inventory and bank space you can buy and that's that.

bottleofsyrup

I saw a post from Kai yesterday mentioning that Update 13 won't include "everything" they had planned for housing, that more things will be added later, so I'm really hoping storage is one.

JD2013

White wabbit wrote: »

Well atleast we are getting a respite from the crown crates everyone is moaning about housing instead lol

Don't worry they'll move on to moaning about the skill changes and balances soon enough.

Then they'll moan about update 14

And so on.

silky_soft

So basically they are saying that it's coming locked behind dlc or crowncrates.

Pops_ND_Irish

Wow, not even out yet and its already started !

Just wait till Housing comes out
1) Too expensive
2) Not enough variety
3) Too many crowns
4) Not enough features
5 ) Anything else to complain about

Delpi

They added a lot of new bound sets with the purpose of fulling your backpack. Hey, if you don't have space, you'll need the ESO+ craft bag! They said...

Well, I have the craft bag, but the bound sets are still a nightmare which keep increasing and increasing. I didn't care because I though I could have all of them in my house! But well...Zos though otherwise... Then, Why would I want a house? Just to decorate it? For that I'm going to IKEA not to a game.

Jim_Pipp

As soon as I saw the homestead announcement I thought,

'What minor thing will the community get angry and indignant about now?'

Storage is not a minor thing. The current inventory system is a huge headache. Zos you must be able to look at your game and see the hours people spend going between alts just to swap things in the bank.

Search these forums for 'inventory mini-game' to get a sense of how much fun the current lack of storage is.

lardvader

TBH extra storage was the only reason for me to consider housing. I'm probably gonna get a scrubby starter house but there is little to no chance that this will be any gold or crown sink on my part.

altemriel

lardvader wrote: »

TBH extra storage was the only reason for me to consider housing. I'm probably gonna get a scrubby starter house but there is little to no chance that this will be any gold or crown sink on my part.

this!!!

@ZOS_RichLambert

Vaoh

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

As soon as I saw the homestead announcement I thought,

'What minor thing will the community get angry and indignant about now?'

Storage is not a minor thing. The current inventory system is a huge headache. Zos you must be able to look at your game and see the hours people spend going between alts just to swap things in the bank.

Search these forums for 'inventory mini-game' to get a sense of how much fun the current lack of storage is.

Exactly. Just adding Housing into ESO made me happy.

I told myself that as long as I could store my stuff in a house, I'd be perfectly happy with it. No complaints. ESO would be much more fun without inventory issues.

And then ZOS goes and doesn't add or even prioritize storage for houses. Ruins the main point of the feature.

Valethar

Vaoh wrote: »

Never have I heard of a game where player housing did not allow storage.

SWTOR.

Beyond your standard bank access, there is no additional storage that I'm aware of.

We'll have bank access, I'm sure, since they mentioned assistants for housing. The rest we'll just have to wait for, since, you know, clown crates and all that.

Vaoh

Valethar wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Never have I heard of a game where player housing did not allow storage.

SWTOR.

Beyond your standard bank access, there is no additional storage that I'm aware of.

We'll have bank access, I'm sure, since they mentioned assistants for housing. The rest we'll just have to wait for, since, you know, clown crates and all that.

So essentially my bank comes to my house. Well that's cool. Instead of making a quick trip to Shornhelm now I can just go to my own home.... soooo hyped

Vaoh

It seems the only "new" feature of value being brought to ESO with Homestead are target dummies to test your DPS/rotations.

The houses themselves are a massive gold sink. Purely cosmetic. No true value whatsoever.

ZOS can feel free to prove me wrong. I'm pretty sad about how this great feature has actually turned out.

SickDuck

I can understand the explanation for delaying storage in housing to a later date. As it was explained being non-trivial and could not fit in for the initial release. However there's still time and miracles can happen;)

Storage in housing is an absolute must but I can wait for it a little longer. However regardless of housing we need more storage - bank space in general. At least please increase available bank slots by 1-200 minimum. The current state for 1T is worse than before crafting bags were introduced.

Pandorii

ZOS always disappoints me. =( like a bad boyfriend... But sometimes things don't turn out the way they seem. Like thinking templars were screwed when breath of life was nerfed, but they wrecked with their new dark flare and RD. Or thinking the destro ulti was sucky compared to 2h ulti and finding out it was actually pretty good. Another case was the uproar about the cs motif and then it sold for 2200, which was less than a bundle of mimic stones that it included.

Having been around a while now, the problem is lack of communication from zos. They make decisions without explaining them. Then they take feedback but never deal with it. One time they tried and it was pure justification of their decision, ignoring us completely.

Rich gave a reason but it was so vague that it implies they did it for money. I'm sure they've seen what players are thinking. But they choose to do nothing about it. Coming in and giving a more justified reason could sway the community feedback tremendously. When they don't, it creates resentment, which a lot of us players who have been around hold for not being listened to.

I admit. The most powerful trust building thing zos has done that I've seen is blowing up an argument by showing cold hard fact data (like the heavy armor use and probabilty of traits in monster shoulders).

Maybe I went off tangent a little. So...

Tldr: I feel quite upset with lack of storage, partly because I wanted it, but also because zos has let me down time and time again. Quality information, instead of vague reasons, could assuage the latter.

TheTwistedRune

Vaoh wrote: »

It seems the only "new" feature of value being brought to ESO with Homestead are target dummies to test your DPS/rotations.

The houses themselves are a massive gold sink. Purely cosmetic. No true value whatsoever.

ZOS can feel free to prove me wrong. I'm pretty sad about how this great feature has actually turned out.

Well no "true value" to you. While not really an RP myself, I can tell you that many roleplayers I know in the game find a lot of value in being able to decorate their homes etc. Most of those could not care less about extra storage. Cosmetic may be worthless to you, but not everybody.

I understand that many are disappointed by the lack of storage, and I sympathise. But saying that storage is the only valuable feature simply isn't true.

Vaoh

TheTwistedRune wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

It seems the only "new" feature of value being brought to ESO with Homestead are target dummies to test your DPS/rotations.

The houses themselves are a massive gold sink. Purely cosmetic. No true value whatsoever.

ZOS can feel free to prove me wrong. I'm pretty sad about how this great feature has actually turned out.

Well no "true value" to you. While not really an RP myself, I can tell you that many roleplayers I know in the game find a lot of value in being able to decorate their homes etc. Most of those could not care less about extra storage. Cosmetic may be worthless to you, but not everybody.

I understand that many are disappointed by the lack of storage, and I sympathise. But saying that storage is the only valuable feature simply isn't true.

It's not that it's the only valuable feature. Storage is just the main feature.

I relied on the assumption that spending 500,000-1,000,000 gold on a house would allow me to organize my stuff. Never could I have imagined that I couldn't store stuff inside my own house. Owning a home is cool until you realize that nothing around you is interactable. It's just... there.

Hopefully there are more players excited for this feature than I have found. I've recently crushed the hopes of many excited friends by telling them this crucial detail about Homestead. I was probably one of the most hyped people in all of ESO. There's just nothing cool about a house full of boxes and barrels which do absolutely nothing.

Unsent.Soul

@Vaoh thank you for voicing your opinion. However I feel it is obviously too late. Not your fault but the devs... how this was left out, and the only reason is "resources" I feel let down.

Simply said, this was the 1 thing players looked forward too with housing. How it was forgotten/left out/mistake is bewildering. The "lack of resources" comment is hard to believe...

DoccEff

This thread: "Can you please rethink this Zos?"
Other thread: "ZOS ARE YOU F*CKING SERIOUS?????!!!"

pattyLtd

Maybe if it's to hard to implement into housing for some reason they could just increase the inventory space we have now as an alternative? Surely that can't be to difficult

Pandorii

They put so many hours into these big projects (1t and housing) but these severely miss the quality of life improvements people have been asking for. How many hours will they devote to this complex housing system just to release this giant thing missing such a fundamental piece, storage?

Vaoh

Pandorii wrote: »

They put so many hours into these big projects (1t and housing) but these severely miss the quality of life improvements people have been asking for. How many hours will they devote to this complex housing system just to release this giant thing missing such a fundamental piece, storage?

These houses all look so cool too. The system is developed very nicely.

I don't think I'll ever be able to really understand how they gave the okay on not adding storage. No real justification exists. When it comes down to it, houses provide storage. Everything else you get with them is extra. If there's no storage, there's no true value.

Yeah it'll be cool to look at for a bit.... but how many people are going to drop hundreds of thousands of gold to basically create their own Wayshrine? I'm not. I'll fast travel to Shornhelm and do everything free, then call someone over to be a test dummy

altemriel

not that storage is a main must-feature, but apart from "the nice feeling to have a house in ESO", it is the only reason why would someone want to buy a house!!!

@ZOS_RichLambert

DoccEff

My suggestions:

- Every house can have a small, craftable chest to store your items in. Maybe a wardrobe for armour. However you can only access them on their actual location.
- You can hire a banker assistant (maybe something like a housecarl?) who basically serves as extended bank space. He/she is expensive to hire, but allows you to access your items from any of your houses.

So you can have a local storage and a "cloud"-storage. Doesn't sound too op to me.
Even if this won't make it into the update I would like to have it confirmed at least for the following one.