Official Discussion Thread for "ESO Welcomes Crown Crates"

  • Vrienda
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    Being able to trade in consumables for gems is good. I might consider these crates now.
    600+ CP Dunmer Stam DK and Bosmer Stam Templar mains.

    Waiting for the day when ALL of Craglorn becomes soloable by the average player. *Glares at group delves and the lower Craglorn Mage and Warrior questlines*.

    Also waiting for the day when characters not created in Morrowind are allowed to have that extra skill point we were denied!
  • shadoza
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    Recremen wrote: »
    shadoza wrote: »
    MBite wrote: »
    "ESO Welcomes Crown Crates"

    Ok guys, put your hands up, i want to see who welcomes them. No dont be shy, i dont have axe, maybe... no no, just put your hands up.


    Anyway, trash for 400 crowns, thats must buy /s :D
    I'm waiting to see what items will be only exclusive in future, I hope nothing. Sadly hope died today.

    O/
    I welcome them. I have many crowns and nothing I want to purchase in the store...so now I have a place to put those membership crowns :smiley:

    @shadoza

    Then why not advocate for the items to be sold directly, instead of having to gamble for them? You'd still have a place to spend all the crowns that you're apparently sitting around on. I mean you do actually want the items, right? And hey, you know what's even better about direct sales? You actually get the goods and services you were looking for! So if you want the items locked behind the gambling boxes, you ought to be super ticked that you might spend all those crowns you have saved up and not get anything.

    Where is the fun in that? I like the gambling boxes. I purchase the Mystery Boxes from The Secret World and have no issues with the randomness of it.
    Actually, no, I do not want the special items, just the fun of opening a crate to see what is inside. I have enough mounts and pets. So, if I never get the special items, no problem with me.
  • kamimark
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    kamimark wrote: »
    MadLarkin wrote: »
    I am against WoW being B2P + Subscription AND having a cash shop on top of it, hence why I've never played it. Unturned is F2P from a small developer. It isn't a large studio with multiple revenue sources on three major platforms. CS:GO also has a $15 price point, skins can drop directly, and you can buy what you want directly from the Steam marketplace without having to gamble.

    Whether the skin is gambling-only or bought with cash, it's still just a skin. It makes zero difference to your gameplay.

    Just because they don't change gameplay doesn't mean people don't put value on them for other reasons.
    And they do actually have the possibility of changing gameplay for people who partake in RP.

    *rides in on a glowing atronach horse, dismounts, and cringing stableboy takes it away*
    You already have to emote most of your props for roleplay. This week, there's no atronach horse at all. Next week, the game is not ruined because someone else might have a skin and you're still typing the emote.

    There's a world of difference between pay-to-win like buying a giant potato nuke in FarmClanWars, and having to use a teeny tiny little smidgen of imagination when role-playing.

    The sheer, terrified, unfounded panic on display here is… I've never seen anything like it, in 30+ years of playing online games since early BBS's.
    Kitty Rainbow Dash. pick, pick, stab.
  • shadoza
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    Everyone in here talking about welcoming these things to support future projects and content, but I can't get a straight answer anywhere on what if any future content is planned. Haven't had a quality expansion added since Orsinium so what's up? You got the dweebs and basement dwellers ready to drop bank for the thrill of opening the box and not the items within. So what are you gonna do with that money?

    Because I do not share you opinion, this makes me a "dweeb and Basement dweller?" Seriously, we have a full basement, but no one and nothing lives down there...it's used for utility and emergency only. I enjoy the thrill of the chase and it never matters if I catch something...nothing wrong with that.

    As a supporter of the Crown Crates, I do not care where the money goes. Once it leaves my hand it is no longer mine and not on my mind.
  • RMerlin
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    They make nothing selling Crown Crates.

    They make money from us in four ways. They sell the initial game license, they sell Crowns, they sell ESO Plus subscriptions, they sell merchandise in the Bethesda ESO Store.

    With Crowns, it does not matter what you purchase in the Store, or if you purchase anything at all. What Crown Crates do is deplete Crown reserves and encourage purchase of additional Crowns.

    That's a contradiction there. You say yourself that crown crates will encourage the purchase of additional Crowns. Then looks to me that selling Crown Crates does allow them to make money.


  • lordrichter
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    They make nothing selling Crown Crates.

    They make money from us in four ways. They sell the initial game license, they sell Crowns, they sell ESO Plus subscriptions, they sell merchandise in the Bethesda ESO Store.

    With Crowns, it does not matter what you purchase in the Store, or if you purchase anything at all. What Crown Crates do is deplete Crown reserves and encourage purchase of additional Crowns.

    That's a contradiction there. You say yourself that crown crates will encourage the purchase of additional Crowns. Then looks to me that selling Crown Crates does allow them to make money.


    They make money selling Crowns, not Crown Crates. All that matters, at the end of the day, is how much revenue they make from the Crowns they sell. Not how many Crown Crates.

    Edit: With my ESO Plus Crowns, I can buy 45 Crown Crates during a year and not have to buy a single additional Crown. This nets ZOS absolutely no extra revenue from me. None. Zip. Were I to do this, the Crown Crates would simply be part of my ESO Plus subscription.

    I won't be using my ESO Plus Crowns for this, just to be clear.
    Edited by lordrichter on November 30, 2016 1:45AM
    PC North America since March 2014
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say NO to Crown Crates!
    I collect free, unopened, virgin Crown Crates! 300, so far!

  • shadoza
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    shadoza wrote: »
    Everyone in here talking about welcoming these things to support future projects and content, but I can't get a straight answer anywhere on what if any future content is planned. Haven't had a quality expansion added since Orsinium so what's up? You got the dweebs and basement dwellers ready to drop bank for the thrill of opening the box and not the items within. So what are you gonna do with that money?

    Because I do not share you opinion, this makes me a "dweeb and Basement dweller?" Seriously, we have a full basement, but no one and nothing lives down there...it's used for utility and emergency only. I enjoy the thrill of the chase and it never matters if I catch something...nothing wrong with that.

    As a supporter of the Crown Crates, I do not care where the money goes. Once it leaves my hand it is no longer mine and not on my mind.

    The opinions of people who are addicted to throwing their money away and admittedly have no concern for the direction of the video game they're playing, do not concern me. I don't go and laugh at the people leaving the casino looking like they are a breath away from jumping off a bridge, nor do I care to acknowledge their stories about how much they enjoy the thrill of the chase. I am here to play a video game. As such, content is priority one, quality of life features and side distractions follow after. This is an mmorpg and not an online casino, therefore the focus shouod remain on the things i have asked about. I would however, not mind it if they milked you good folks who love gambling dry, in an effort to bring new and fantastic actual content to this video game, for those of us who are here to play a video game. Since...this is a video game.

    Edited all the name calling and curse words out cuz I'm on thin ice.

    You are making assumptions. I do not gamble. I do not pay for the crowns; they are provided via my membership...which I do pay for. But I think I get your message. You are saying that your own opinion is what is important to you. Many, if not all, think that way. However, I disagree with your delivery.

    I believe more players enjoy the Crown Crates than is what is represented here. Time will certainly tell. In the game The Secret World, some players were very vocal about the introduction of a "loot crate" into the store. The folks felt certain that no one would purchase them. They became the TSW's top seller from the store. Because the "loot crates" were so popular, themed bags, and party bags, were introduced. They, too, are best sellers. The crown crates might be a best seller for TESO as well.
  • Mojmir
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    Lies,I haven't welcomed anything they've done in months
    Raising floors and lower ceilings by zos standards has created an iron maiden.
    No matter how well you played,when the game is over,the king and pawn go back in the same box.
    Be careful what you ask for from zo$, you always get punished.
    Call me toxic,your the one being slowly poisoned by greed.
  • Ahnastashia
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    They make nothing selling Crown Crates.

    They make money from us in four ways. They sell the initial game license, they sell Crowns, they sell ESO Plus subscriptions, they sell merchandise in the Bethesda ESO Store.

    With Crowns, it does not matter what you purchase in the Store, or if you purchase anything at all. What Crown Crates do is deplete Crown reserves and encourage purchase of additional Crowns.

    That's a contradiction there. You say yourself that crown crates will encourage the purchase of additional Crowns. Then looks to me that selling Crown Crates does allow them to make money.


    They make money selling Crowns, not Crown Crates. All that matters, at the end of the day, is how much revenue they make from the Crowns they sell. Not how many Crown Crates.

    Edit: With my ESO Plus Crowns, I can buy 45 Crown Crates during a year and not have to buy a single additional Crown. This nets ZOS absolutely no extra revenue from me. None. Zip. Were I to do this, the Crown Crates would simply be part of my ESO Plus subscription.

    I won't be using my ESO Plus Crowns for this, just to be clear.

    If they see a significant increase in crown purchases and also many crown crate purchases, I'm going to say I believe they will see the connection, and will see the introduction of crown crates as a "huge success". If however, they do not see an increase in crown purchases and little to no crown crate purchases, I would think that would be a message that their crown crates failed. Am I wrong here?
  • Mojmir
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    They make nothing selling Crown Crates.

    They make money from us in four ways. They sell the initial game license, they sell Crowns, they sell ESO Plus subscriptions, they sell merchandise in the Bethesda ESO Store.

    With Crowns, it does not matter what you purchase in the Store, or if you purchase anything at all. What Crown Crates do is deplete Crown reserves and encourage purchase of additional Crowns.

    That's a contradiction there. You say yourself that crown crates will encourage the purchase of additional Crowns. Then looks to me that selling Crown Crates does allow them to make money.


    They make money selling Crowns, not Crown Crates. All that matters, at the end of the day, is how much revenue they make from the Crowns they sell. Not how many Crown Crates.

    Edit: With my ESO Plus Crowns, I can buy 45 Crown Crates during a year and not have to buy a single additional Crown. This nets ZOS absolutely no extra revenue from me. None. Zip. Were I to do this, the Crown Crates would simply be part of my ESO Plus subscription.

    I won't be using my ESO Plus Crowns for this, just to be clear.

    If they see a significant increase in crown purchases and also many crown crate purchases, I'm going to say I believe they will see the connection, and will see the introduction of crown crates as a "huge success". If however, they do not see an increase in crown purchases and little to no crown crate purchases, I would think that would be a message that their crown crates failed. Am I wrong here?

    We've been giving them feedback for years and they ignore it,why would they start now?
    Raising floors and lower ceilings by zos standards has created an iron maiden.
    No matter how well you played,when the game is over,the king and pawn go back in the same box.
    Be careful what you ask for from zo$, you always get punished.
    Call me toxic,your the one being slowly poisoned by greed.
  • DocFrost72
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    "You will also have the option to convert several items obtained from Crown Crates to Crown Gems any time you want. Items that can be manually converted include potions, poisons, riding lessons, experience scrolls, and other utility-type items. Any Crown Gems you earn can then be used to purchase the collectible items of your choosing from the current Crown Crate season."

    A major improvement, for those that want to try these crates out anyway.

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