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Official Discussion Thread for "ESO Welcomes Crown Crates"

  • MacCait
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    In all honesty I think this is just disgusting, and I don't think Zenimax has listened to a single concern. That's it for me, no renewing my 6 month membership in March, I've already stopped playing, not so much for protest but more because I have completely lost all faith in the developer and the way this is heading, and now lost all desire to play. Go back in time to a year ago and you seemed like a great developer Zenimax, and a good team. Seriously what happened?
    PS4 EU server - Valenwood Vanguard

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    P.A.W.S (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say NO to gambling, say NO to Crown Crates!
  • Lord Valar
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    Well..... I like the idea, there's some nice stuff/mounts/items we can own.

    But it's too random, too expensive aswell, for real, no way to buy things with a normal crown price ?
    And if I understand the topic, there will be multiple seasons for these crates ? ........... Maybe it'll work at the beginning, but not longer.

    2 things : Why crates doesn't scan what we already have in collection/bags, and secondly, why (didn't try that, but saw videos and commentaries), why when we buy 15 crates and sell everything we can own around, let's say 300 gems if you're lucky => Not enough for a mount.
  • Coolio_Wolfus
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    One thing they could do, is force the:
    • 4 crate pack (1500) to guarantee at least 1 memento where possible (Gem equivalent if they are all owned.)
    • 15 crate pack (5000) to guarantee at least 1 unowned mount where possible. (Gem equivalent if they are all owned.)
    The rest of the pack crates could remain random and would allow collectors to get what they want for the set price and ZoS still has the other 1/3/14 boxes under their RNG control.

    I feel this would be the closest option for a best of both worlds situation without having to remove the crates, and would almost guarantee that collectors would buy the crate bundles in this case, yes it's more than a Dro'mathra Senche...

    But it would be 5000 for 1 mount and 14 chances to get another/jackpot, 1500 for 1 memento and 3 chances and the single crate chance for 400.

    I feel this change would be welcomed and remove a fair bit of the bad feeling towards ZoS/TESO regarding these useless, bully bulls-eye marking lumps of digital junk, It may actually make buying them fashionable.
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    Can I get insightful's, agrees or awesome's if you happen to agree with me on this, thanks.
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    Edited by Coolio_Wolfus on December 8, 2016 1:45AM
  • JimT722
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    One thing they could do, is force the:
    • 4 crate pack (1500) to guarantee at least 1 memento where possible (Gem equivalent if they are all owned.)
    • 15 crate pack (5000) to guarantee at least 1 unowned mount where possible. (Gem equivalent if they are all owned.)
    The rest of the pack crates could remain random and would allow collectors to get what they want for the set price and ZoS still has the other 1/3/14 boxes under their RNG control.

    I feel this would be the closest option for a best of both worlds situation without having to remove the crates, and would almost guarantee that collectors would buy the crate bundles in this case, yes it's more than a Dro'mathra Senche...

    But it would be 5000 for 1 mount and 14 chances to get another/jackpot, 1500 for 1 memento and 3 chances and the single crate chance for 400.

    I feel this change would be welcomed and remove a fair bit of the bad feeling towards ZoS/TESO regarding these useless, bully bulls-eye marking lumps of digital junk, It may actually make buying them fashionable.
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    Can I get insightful's, agrees or awesome's if you happen to agree with me on this, thanks.
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    What if someone doesn't care about mounts? Let's they have an Argonian as a main and don't care about anything else in the crates but rooster frills and enveloping scales? Many hate the atronach stuff but really were looking forward to some of the non themed items.
  • Lord Valar
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    JimT722 wrote: »
    What if someone doesn't care about mounts? Let's they have an Argonian as a main and don't care about anything else in the crates but rooster frills and enveloping scales? Many hate the atronach stuff but really were looking forward to some of the non themed items.

    Yes you're right, everyone is speaking about mounts, so do I. And I don't really like the design of all mounts (maybe 3 are nice in my point of view).
    But it's the same problem, it's random, chances for these kind of stuff, appearances (or mount ;) ) are soooooo low. and to buy it alone, it cost too much.
  • Coolio_Wolfus
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    JimT722 wrote: »
    One thing they could do, is force the:
    • 4 crate pack (1500) to guarantee at least 1 memento where possible (Gem equivalent if they are all owned.)
    • 15 crate pack (5000) to guarantee at least 1 unowned mount where possible. (Gem equivalent if they are all owned.)
    The rest of the pack crates could remain random and would allow collectors to get what they want for the set price and ZoS still has the other 1/3/14 boxes under their RNG control.

    I feel this would be the closest option for a best of both worlds situation without having to remove the crates, and would almost guarantee that collectors would buy the crate bundles in this case, yes it's more than a Dro'mathra Senche...

    But it would be 5000 for 1 mount and 14 chances to get another/jackpot, 1500 for 1 memento and 3 chances and the single crate chance for 400.

    I feel this change would be welcomed and remove a fair bit of the bad feeling towards ZoS/TESO regarding these useless, bully bulls-eye marking lumps of digital junk, It may actually make buying them fashionable.
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    Can I get insightful's, agrees or awesome's if you happen to agree with me on this, thanks.
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    What if someone doesn't care about mounts? Let's they have an Argonian as a main and don't care about anything else in the crates but rooster frills and enveloping scales? Many hate the atronach stuff but really were looking forward to some of the non themed items.

    Was my entire point, the crate tiers are already defined Storm Atreo Mount as top and Storm Memento as next tier down, what I was saying is they could force rng on the 1st crate of a batch for these purchase tiers, the rest of the crates would remain random rng, including any and all other drops, getting a top award you already have would still = gems so you could buy the item you really wanted.

    I was trying to look at it as a this won't change what could they do to improve it for collectors.
  • wayfarerx
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    Cross-quoting from Do not by Crown Crates!!!:
    penek wrote: »
    a close call ? http://www.pcgamesn.com/china-loot-box-regulations (china government gonna force all companies to provide chances for items in "loot boxes"
    The regulation comes from China's Ministry of Culture, via NeoGAF, and states that "online game publishers shall promptly publicly announce information about the name, property, content, quantity, and draw/forge probability of all virtual items and services.

    "The information on draw probability shall be true and effective."

    Here's the official regulation from the Chinese government.
    @wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion
  • lordrichter
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    Hmm. ESO is not marketed in China. Perhaps this is a way to get rid of the Chinese gold sellers and bots? ZOS can block China so they don't have to tell us what the odd are. Now I am conflicted. :smile:

    PC North America since March 2014
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say NO to Crown Crates!
    I collect free, unopened, virgin Crown Crates! 300, so far!

  • Mordhar
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    Unlike others, I want to tell not about my thoughts of crates, but how I started playing ESO.
    How this is relevant to topic? You will see.

    Warning, this is going to be a long post.

    A few years ago, I was playing another MMO (standard F2P model).
    Started at beta. There were a lot of promises. The usual stuff: “we don’t want to become another Pay-2-Win” “all items in cash-shop will be purely cosmetic”, you know the drill.

    Then first “convenience items” arrived, experience buffs and such.
    Then gambling crates were added.
    And finally the first combat mount, exclusive to crates.
    I was very lucky (received it from my 3 rd crate, while others had to open 100-200). So I am not one of those who “gambled, lost and rage-quit”.

    I played that game for few weeks more. Killed 4-5 player groups single-handedly, farmed instances in solo. Then I left.

    No angry posts on forums, no attempts to sell account. I just removed game client from my computer and never installed it again.


    Then I decided that I never again spend my time and money on another MMO. Well, I was very wrong.


    I received an e-mail about new MMO game in development. It was in my favorite RPG-setting and with new “no-target” combat mechanics.
    But, more importantly it was announced as strictly subscription-based. And without in-game cash-shop. That was unusual, to say the least.

    People were pointing out how stupid the decision to make game subscription-based is. Demanded that developers reconsider. Treated they will never buy the game if they must pay monthly subscription.
    But developers were adamant: they make game unlike any other on the market, and it will be by subscription only. This will allow making game fair for every player and never introducing any form of cash-shop.
    They were ready to stand by this decision despite negative comments and hatred from community.

    I pre-purchased the game few days later. The name of that game was Elder Scrolls Online…


    End of story.
  • lnxrwb17_ESO
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    wayfarerx wrote: »
    Cross-quoting from Do not by Crown Crates!!!:
    penek wrote: »
    a close call ? http://www.pcgamesn.com/china-loot-box-regulations (china government gonna force all companies to provide chances for items in "loot boxes"
    The regulation comes from China's Ministry of Culture, via NeoGAF, and states that "online game publishers shall promptly publicly announce information about the name, property, content, quantity, and draw/forge probability of all virtual items and services.

    "The information on draw probability shall be true and effective."

    Here's the official regulation from the Chinese government.

    No need to worry, a game like ESO can never enter Mainland China "officially" due to gore and things like skeletons/zombies/etc. But I'd love to have an East Asia server because 300ms+ latency to either NA or EU server is ****.
    You guys should start a petition for this in US or EU or UK.

    As for me the crates are fine and no need to be salty, if you hate them, don't buy them. No impact on your regular gameplay.
    Warning: This comment is strongly biased because I got a Storm Atronach Senche in my 3rd crate of total 4.
    Raka-loah, from China. Currently the one and only member of Planetary Lizard Alliance(NA).

    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
  • Elyndaran
    Elyndaran
    Soul Shriven
    I'm disappointed, I just tried to get at least one of these cool mounts by buying 5500 crowns + 1200 left on my account and yet did get nothing...
    I love collecting mounts and I bought almost all of them from the crown store. But I'm sad to see I won't even be able to get one with 2500 crowns anymore.
    I got a lion, at least it leave me with a lesser bad taste in my mouth but yet....
    And all the items you get, give you so few gems...

    Your crates suck hard....

    I prefered to buy them straight with my crowns....

    Sad you're going this way with the crown store....
  • shadoza
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    I still like the crown crates. I spend my extra crowns on them and some of my entertainment budget money since I didn't use it before. The best part of the Crown Crates is the cards that go with it. Much better than some games that just report what was inside in a list. I could play the card game without the wins just because it is fun and the artwork is interesting.

    Since I wasn't "dying" to have anything in the loot table, I wasn't disappointed. I did get one of the special mounts.
  • TheAshenWrath
    TheAshenWrath
    Soul Shriven
    I was searching around, but I did not find any information on the subject - when do the "crown crate seasons" rotate? Will they be with every season of the year or will it be more like a monthly thing?
  • Enodoc
    Enodoc
    Community Ambassador
    I was searching around, but I did not find any information on the subject - when do the "crown crate seasons" rotate? Will they be with every season of the year or will it be more like a monthly thing?
    @TheAshenWrath Quarterly. Although this first season will last for 4 months rather than 3.
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