Tell us when Crown Crates are being released (Announced)

Kendaric

Aerin wrote: »

Legoless wrote: »

Being unable to convert unwanted collectibles is hugely frustrating. What am I meant to do with Argonian accessories?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

I do want to add one thing that I forgot, ZOS should remove certain things like racial/gender styles that you do not meet the requirements for. Example would be the Argonian style well none of my characters are a lizard and I only play a Redguard and a Brenton so I should receive anything that is related to that style; other than that I believe it's fine.

We're looking into removing race-specific items in future Crown Crate seasons.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3568428#Comment_3568428

It still doesn't help anyone who doesn't want a dress, mount or pet cluttering up their collection. Let's face it... if I wanted the ancestor lizard or scamp pet I'd have bought it. I didn't, because I didn't want it back then and I don't want them now.

The only way to handle this is to include the option of converting collectibles into gems from the card screen or to allow us to delete items from our collection.

Recremen

Cousin_Idirfa wrote: »

It's no wonder ZOS is not worried about losing subs or loyal players. They have removed the ceiling to the amount of money players can dump into this game, and players are dumping.

Posts about buying 30, 40 or more crates, and posts about spending $100, $200 or more. The subs and regular crown store purchases and the box sales are a pittance compared to the money players are dumping into these crates.

Going forward I can't help but wonder what the motivation will be for spending thousands of development hours on a new expansion and charging an outright price for it, when they can spend a tiny fraction of the development time on more crown crate items and make more money.

I worry about our hobby. Content driven profits are being replaced with shady, exploitive games of chance. It seems MMOs are becoming less about what players can do in game, and more about how much players are spending in the store.

The most bonkers thing is that some people (myself included) are more than happy to spend loads of money on the game, but we want to actually, you know, GET THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING FOR. There's an enormous amount of product locked away in the gambling boxes, no ability to pick and choose, a lot of it is unique so even if you bought everything before you're liable to be stuck with a bunch of new collectibles you probably would have skipped on (race/gender-locked items), and it's just monumentally frustrating. ZOS, let me spend money! Offer things for direct purchase!

JKorr

Kendaric wrote: »

Aerin wrote: »

Legoless wrote: »

Being unable to convert unwanted collectibles is hugely frustrating. What am I meant to do with Argonian accessories?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

I do want to add one thing that I forgot, ZOS should remove certain things like racial/gender styles that you do not meet the requirements for. Example would be the Argonian style well none of my characters are a lizard and I only play a Redguard and a Brenton so I should receive anything that is related to that style; other than that I believe it's fine.

We're looking into removing race-specific items in future Crown Crate seasons.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3568428#Comment_3568428

It still doesn't help anyone who doesn't want a dress, mount or pet cluttering up their collection. Let's face it... if I wanted the ancestor lizard or scamp pet I'd have bought it. I didn't, because I didn't want it back then and I don't want them now.

The only way to handle this is to include the option of converting collectibles into gems from the card screen or to allow us to delete items from our collection.

I think that using DESTROY works on items you don't want to keep.

If you will be buying more clown crates, destroying anything to clear your collection would be an incredibly bad idea. If you don't have the item you don't want in your collection, you won't be getting a duplicate, and hence the gems for that duplicate.
If you destroy something you'll end up getting it again, and not being able to trade it in for gems.

Elsonso

Recremen wrote: »

ZOS, let me spend money! Offer things for direct purchase!

That ship has sailed. Water over the dam. Les carottes sont cuites! When pigs fly.

I agree, but this ain't gonna happen with the current management.

Kendaric

JKorr wrote: »

Kendaric wrote: »

Aerin wrote: »

Legoless wrote: »

Being unable to convert unwanted collectibles is hugely frustrating. What am I meant to do with Argonian accessories?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/general-discussion

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

I do want to add one thing that I forgot, ZOS should remove certain things like racial/gender styles that you do not meet the requirements for. Example would be the Argonian style well none of my characters are a lizard and I only play a Redguard and a Brenton so I should receive anything that is related to that style; other than that I believe it's fine.

We're looking into removing race-specific items in future Crown Crate seasons.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3568428#Comment_3568428

It still doesn't help anyone who doesn't want a dress, mount or pet cluttering up their collection. Let's face it... if I wanted the ancestor lizard or scamp pet I'd have bought it. I didn't, because I didn't want it back then and I don't want them now.

The only way to handle this is to include the option of converting collectibles into gems from the card screen or to allow us to delete items from our collection.

I think that using DESTROY works on items you don't want to keep.

If you will be buying more clown crates, destroying anything to clear your collection would be an incredibly bad idea. If you don't have the item you don't want in your collection, you won't be getting a duplicate, and hence the gems for that duplicate.
If you destroy something you'll end up getting it again, and not being able to trade it in for gems.

I don't think it's possible currently to use DESTROY once the item is in your collection.
I'd prefer the option to convert unwanted collectibles into gems, as that gives the greatest freedom. However, I also want to remove certain items from my collection permanently (like the Cadwell helmet or the Vosh-Rakh mask).

Recremen

lordrichter wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

ZOS, let me spend money! Offer things for direct purchase!

That ship has sailed. Water over the dam. Les carottes sont cuites! When pigs fly.

I agree, but this ain't gonna happen with the current management.

I mean maybe, maybe not, but I'm not buying gambling boxes so the only option left to me is to keep asking for an equitable way of purchasing collectibles. By, you know, actually purchasing them. ;-)

Elsonso

Recremen wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

ZOS, let me spend money! Offer things for direct purchase!

That ship has sailed. Water over the dam. Les carottes sont cuites! When pigs fly.

I agree, but this ain't gonna happen with the current management.

I mean maybe, maybe not, but I'm not buying gambling boxes so the only option left to me is to keep asking for an equitable way of purchasing collectibles. By, you know, actually purchasing them. ;-)

Such radical ideas are not hip with the latest marketing strategies.

cpuScientist

They have been released, also LAST!

Schizoid-man

I thought that if you received an item in a crown crate that you couldn't use then you would get a crown gem refund for it? My high elf received some khajit only body markings ffs.

ZOS_Ragnar

Schizoid-man wrote: »

I thought that if you received an item in a crown crate that you couldn't use then you would get a crown gem refund for it? My high elf received some khajit only body markings ffs.

You can exact Crown Gems from unwanted items from withing the Crown Crate menu. Instructions on how to do this can be found here.

Enodoc

ZOS_RyanM wrote: »

Schizoid-man wrote: »

I thought that if you received an item in a crown crate that you couldn't use then you would get a crown gem refund for it? My high elf received some khajit only body markings ffs.

You can exact Crown Gems from unwanted items from withing the Crown Crate menu. Instructions on how to do this can be found here.

I thought that only applied to Consumables, not Collectibles?

Shimmer

Yea you cannot extract the gems from say... The khajiit tattoos I got. Unless it was the second time getting it. You only get crown gems from cosmetic items if it is a duplicate.

JimT722

Sylance9 wrote: »

Yea you cannot extract the gems from say... The khajiit tattoos I got. Unless it was the second time getting it. You only get crown gems from cosmetic items if it is a duplicate.

They will fix this next season. No race locked cosmetics. Unfortunately, if they listened to the feedback on the pts and did this for the current season, they wouldn't have lost me as a customer. I was looking forward to the Argonian cosmetics in the crates since July. Why would they be stupid to include items people may have been looking forward to in the crates? To *** us off?

Shimmer

I was just answering enodoc but I don't mind them

ItsGlaive

JimT722 wrote: »

Sylance9 wrote: »

Yea you cannot extract the gems from say... The khajiit tattoos I got. Unless it was the second time getting it. You only get crown gems from cosmetic items if it is a duplicate.

They will fix this next season. No race locked cosmetics. Unfortunately, if they listened to the feedback on the pts and did this for the current season, they wouldn't have lost me as a customer. I was looking forward to the Argonian cosmetics in the crates since July. Why would they be stupid to include items people may have been looking forward to in the crates? To *** us off?

You should be able to extract gems whether it's race locked, owned, or otherwise. There was some very "meh" stuff packed into those crates that should not be forced upon people.

JimT722

Xabien wrote: »

JimT722 wrote: »

Sylance9 wrote: »

Yea you cannot extract the gems from say... The khajiit tattoos I got. Unless it was the second time getting it. You only get crown gems from cosmetic items if it is a duplicate.

They will fix this next season. No race locked cosmetics. Unfortunately, if they listened to the feedback on the pts and did this for the current season, they wouldn't have lost me as a customer. I was looking forward to the Argonian cosmetics in the crates since July. Why would they be stupid to include items people may have been looking forward to in the crates? To *** us off?

You should be able to extract gems whether it's race locked, owned, or otherwise. There was some very "meh" stuff packed into those crates that should not be forced upon people.

The more items, less chance at gems/desired items, and the more screwed someone like me is when you want just 2 specific items.

@ZOS_GinaBruno any chance that the race locked items this crate season will ever be available for direct purchase, or is the upcoming change to race locked items going to only help following seasons?

BlanketFort

Cazzy wrote: »

BlanketFort wrote: »

They shall come when they come.
Don't like the crown crates? Don't buy them.
Like the crown crates? Then go crazy and have fun!

This only becomes an issue if they add in gear/weapons/etc. that are vastly more powerful than what can be obtained in-game. IMO, xp scrolls, cosmetics, redistribution scrolls, and whatnot are all fine.

Please, please, please read the posts in this thread - and look up every other thread about the crates. This has been answered many times.

I agree. Omg I agree. I'm ashamed to have defended them. Seriously. I've read up a great deal on lock boxes, now. How it affects games, the community, the future content, etc. This is bad business practice and truly disheartening to see ZOS sink this low, tainting the TES franchise into oblivion. Thank you, for the insight.

BlanketFort

Recremen wrote: »

BlanketFort wrote: »

They shall come when they come.
Don't like the crown crates? Don't buy them.
Like the crown crates? Then go crazy and have fun!

This only becomes an issue if they add in gear/weapons/etc. that are vastly more powerful than what can be obtained in-game. IMO, xp scrolls, cosmetics, redistribution scrolls, and whatnot are all fine.

While it's fine that you're not personally bothered by the exclusive cosmetics, it is very clearly already an issue for those of us who value fair access to the cosmetics being produced.

I'm just going through all my previous posts about the crown crates, so I can take back what i said. In short, someone showed me the bigger picture.

Cpt_Teemo

BlanketFort wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

BlanketFort wrote: »

They shall come when they come.
Don't like the crown crates? Don't buy them.
Like the crown crates? Then go crazy and have fun!

This only becomes an issue if they add in gear/weapons/etc. that are vastly more powerful than what can be obtained in-game. IMO, xp scrolls, cosmetics, redistribution scrolls, and whatnot are all fine.

While it's fine that you're not personally bothered by the exclusive cosmetics, it is very clearly already an issue for those of us who value fair access to the cosmetics being produced.

I'm just going through all my previous posts about the crown crates, so I can take back what i said. In short, someone showed me the bigger picture.

IE: Swtor Cartel market 2.0

Kendaric

ZOS_RyanM wrote: »

Schizoid-man wrote: »

I thought that if you received an item in a crown crate that you couldn't use then you would get a crown gem refund for it? My high elf received some khajit only body markings ffs.

You can exact Crown Gems from unwanted items from withing the Crown Crate menu. Instructions on how to do this can be found here.

If we actually could do this, there would have been far less backlash. But we can only this for consumables and that is not enough.
Unwanted collectibles still clutter up our collection with no way to get rid of them.

JimT722

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

BlanketFort wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

BlanketFort wrote: »

They shall come when they come.
Don't like the crown crates? Don't buy them.
Like the crown crates? Then go crazy and have fun!

This only becomes an issue if they add in gear/weapons/etc. that are vastly more powerful than what can be obtained in-game. IMO, xp scrolls, cosmetics, redistribution scrolls, and whatnot are all fine.

While it's fine that you're not personally bothered by the exclusive cosmetics, it is very clearly already an issue for those of us who value fair access to the cosmetics being produced.

I'm just going through all my previous posts about the crown crates, so I can take back what i said. In short, someone showed me the bigger picture.

IE: Swtor Cartel market 2.0

I loved KOTOR. They ruined the MMO with that crap. Now the same thing is happening with the Elder Scrolls MMO.

Elsonso

JimT722 wrote: »

I loved KOTOR. They ruined the MMO with that crap. Now the same thing is happening with the Elder Scrolls MMO.

For the most part, I figure that companies like ZOS and Bethesda don't agree that they ruined anything. At least, they won't say it where anyone will hear it.

I can't fault them for running a business, but I can fault them for a lack of innovation and execution in how they do it. Somewhere in the ZOS offices is a dogeared and worn copy of MMO Game Development for Dummies. I am sure there are lots of notes in the margins of the Cash Shops Made Easy chapter.

If Crown Crates have taught us anything, it is that ZOS/Bethesda is just following along where others have led. Lemmings.

JKorr

Kendaric wrote: »

ZOS_RyanM wrote: »

Schizoid-man wrote: »

I thought that if you received an item in a crown crate that you couldn't use then you would get a crown gem refund for it? My high elf received some khajit only body markings ffs.

You can exact Crown Gems from unwanted items from withing the Crown Crate menu. Instructions on how to do this can be found here.

If we actually could do this, there would have been far less backlash. But we can only this for consumables and that is not enough.
Unwanted collectibles still clutter up our collection with no way to get rid of them.

I haven't bought a lot of the costumes and pets; simply because I didn't like them and didn't want them.

If I was foolish enough to buy the clown crates I'd have to "collect" a LOT of the costumes and pets I didn't buy when they were first released because I didn't want them/didn't like them. THEN I'd have to hope to get duplicates to get gems to buy what I actually want. Which is NONE of the atronach mounts. Even if I got one of them I'd have to hope for a duplicate, because what I want is a lower tier "consolation" prize. I wouldn't be able to trade in the atronach whatever because the whole point of the clown crates is to make people buy more to attempt to get what they want. Allowing people to trade collectibles and costumes and pets defeats that purpose.

I actually want to buy items, to give ZOS money. The clown crates are preventing that. I do plan on buying some of the items coming out in the crown store, but I won't spend a single cent on the clown crates. Although I'm debating doing that; as they lock more and more content behind the crates, what's the point? [Before the "that hasn't happened" posters show up; sorry, I think it has. The lions were datamined quite a while ago, so was the red pit wolf mount. Now the only way to get them is to spend a few hundred dollars more than buying them outright, because, even though they aren't "themed" they are locked in the crates.]

General_Serous

I wanted an atrinoch mount. The horse would be nice, but any would do. I bought 5500 crowns to get the 15 crown box set. Opened all of them. NOT ONE MOUNT!!!

I want my money back.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

General_Serous wrote: »

I wanted an atrinoch mount. The horse would be nice, but any would do. I bought 5500 crowns to get the 15 crown box set. Opened all of them. NOT ONE MOUNT!!!

I want my money back.

No worries, just do that 3-4 more times, and you can buy which ever one you want!

Elsonso

General_Serous wrote: »

I wanted an atrinoch mount. The horse would be nice, but any would do. I bought 5500 crowns to get the 15 crown box set. Opened all of them. NOT ONE MOUNT!!!

I want my money back.

Apex mounts are dropping about 1 in every 25 crates, average. So, if you figure you are average or better, you won't have to buy more than two 15 packs to get an Apex mount. Don't be picky about which one you want.

Edit: If you are looking for a specific one that you have to have, the goal should be to keep buying crates until you get enough Gems from duplicates and unwanted consumables to just buy it.

JKorr

@ZOS_RyanM

You do realize that the link you gave is for "consumables" only, right? Potions, scrolls, poisons.....

The poster got Khajiit body markings from the clown crate. Just like costumes and pets, unless they stealth changed it, you can't trade back anything that isn't a "consumable".

vyndral13preub18_ESO

lordrichter wrote: »

General_Serous wrote: »

I wanted an atrinoch mount. The horse would be nice, but any would do. I bought 5500 crowns to get the 15 crown box set. Opened all of them. NOT ONE MOUNT!!!

I want my money back.

Apex mounts are dropping about 1 in every 25 crates, average. So, if you figure you are average or better, you won't have to buy more than two 15 packs to get an Apex mount. Don't be picky about which one you want.

On the flip side , even if you Buy the 25 crates needed on average. If you are worse then average. Like 50% of the people who purchased a crate. Since that is how averages work. Then, who knows when you will get your first random apex mount.

Lukums1

prettynink wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

I'm prepared to open 60 crates tonight on twitch.

I'm prepared (even though I want the mount) to show people that the investment of $50.00 is better off to be stored away then spent on 15 boxes.

You won't get *** from 15 boxes, as stated many times you have to invest "hard" to obtain gems to then buy what you're after.
However this is a false pretense people are receiving after thinking they will get what they want with a $50.00 investment there many be 1 or 2 people sure but you should plan on being very disapointed.

A hat, and pots which are rubbish... man it would hurt would it not.

hey lukums, I remember you from my vma thread. whats your twitch so I can follow you

totally not crown crate related, maybe, yes ok it's scramcrate related

UPDATE: NVM i had your channel all along I just installed twitch on my console and I'm ready when you are

Off topic @prettynink cheers for the follow LOL.

Sorry I should of confirmed upon (LAUNCH of live) I was preparing to open the 60 crates (bought 35k crowns).

However upon opening my first 10 I obtained literally everything I wanted... attro transform, momento and apex mount.

I do honest to god (without being a fan boy or WHALE) that the crates rewards weren't too bad moving from the PTS to LIVE.
I would be absolutely shocked if they introduced "end game items" or items that would be some what of a huge advantage to players who use real money to purchase these crown crates.

Time will tell, ZOS doesn't listen to anyone with any feedback in relation to anything so it's just a waiting game that needs to be played.

Aelthwyn

There are several things in the new crates I would definitely buy straight out, probably even if they were overpriced, but this whole mystery box thing turns me off. It’s so inefficient. I hate having to get lots of random crap I’m never going to use but will have to sift through in my collections while looking for the things I actually do want to use. Not to mention the waste of money.

This is basically taunting people and trying to make them frustrated. It cultivates bitterness with the company and jealousy between players. Not good for the morale and loyalty of the players. While things in game also depend on random chance, it’s a little different when you’re wasting your time hopefully having some amount of fun chasing the elusive drop as opposed to flat out wasting your money buying something you don’t want .

My husband hasn’t seriously played in a long time, but upon seeing some of the new items he was all excited about coming back to the game (he plays a storm mage) Until he found out the method of getting those awesome new items. He said, he would not even consider supporting such a program and every time I’ve mentioned the game since then he says how disappointing and stupid the crate system is.