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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm guessing that the players who decry this as "Progress to Win" will include the same players who want account-wide achievements etc because they don't expect to have to level up alts as slowly as their main characters. They spend a lot of time moaning about how long everything takes and then when offered the chance to speed things up a bit they moan some more - mainly, I imagine, because they've got to pay for it. That aspect in turn leaves the door open for the "slippery slope" doomsayers to peddle their wares even tho' the game is no more P2W now than it ever was.
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✭✭I'm guessing that the players who decry this as "Progress to Win" will include the same players who want account-wide achievements etc because they don't expect to have to level up alts as slowly as their main characters. They spend a lot of time moaning about how long everything takes and then when offered the chance to speed things up a bit they moan some more - mainly, I imagine, because they've got to pay for it. That aspect in turn leaves the door open for the "slippery slope" doomsayers to peddle their wares even tho' the game is no more P2W now than it ever was.
Quick change "Progress to Win" to "Pay to Progress" before they call you out on it as a way to try and strengthen their argument.1 -
Astanphaeus✭✭✭✭✭This doesn't particularly concern me. I'm much more concerned by the having to buy the various DLCs (or have ESO+) in order to have access to all of the sets. DLCs should be attractive purchases because of their play, not their items.0 -
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✭✭✭✭TLDR: L2P2WAstanphaeus wrote: »This doesn't particularly concern me. I'm much more concerned by the having to buy the various DLCs (or have ESO+) in order to have access to all of the sets. DLCs should be attractive purchases because of their play, not their items.
You can always get them from a guild trader or your friendly neighborhood crafter. If you don't have a DLC you shouldn't be able to get to a crafting station and it's not like they are going to add 3 new crafting stations in Davon's Watch each time a DLC drops.
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✭✭✭✭✭In my eyes it's not a matter of Pay 2 Win or not, it's showcasing that Zos is willing and able to go against the standards they set for themselves.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26604WILL CONSUMABLES BE TAKEN OUT OF THE GAME AND MOVED TO THE CROWN STORE?
Updated 03/16/2015 11:24 AM Published 01/23/2015 05:22 PM
Consumables will remain in the game, and crafters will still be able to create them. In fact, crafters will be able create the best versions of consumable items.
Emphasis by me.
They need to change the scrolls, give crafters a better version, or fix this support article.
You know over time things change right? You are quoting something that is over a year and half old. I honestly don't see how people could read that and start crying nearly 2 years later because things changed.
Not sure if there is more to that conversation or not but I would assume it was in reference to something being added to the crown store and at the time that statement was made it was completely true.
Did they actually say we promise to never put a consumable in the crown store that is slightly better? Or is that one comment what people are crying about?
They never promised not to put better than VmA weapons in only the cash shop either. Would that make it okay for them to do so?
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elvenmad✭✭✭✭✭I think the biggest point in this thread is the fact they have gone against their previous statements.
They have obviously thought about this alot and have spent time developing this one item so pretty sure it will come onto live.
My biggest concern here is, this has come to light just has the crates have appeared on PTS, this is only the first of no doubt many items they have developed and are currently developing specifically for the crates, so what's coming next ?
They dont have to include armors and weapons to make it P2W, which they have already claimed they will not do, but if we see items like tempers and gold crafting upgrade mats.......well thats a different story and although 'technically' still not P2W because these items are available in game, but they could also reduce in game drop rates.
They could reduce temper drop rates to 1:1000000000 and it 'technically' is not P2W and it is still not definitive P2W, but yeah abit of common sense reveals the truth. THIS is exactly what many other publishers have done with many top titles and still claim not P2W, Like I'v said before this is only the beginning and I honestly do not see ZoS not following what other publishers have already done, it is too much of a easy money maker to not take advantage of.
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »Educate yourself on what pay to win actually is please.
This is objectively not pay to win. Sorry.
Nicely said.
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✭✭✭.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.
Look I know Crown Crates are widely disliked by many but denial is not becoming... Can't blame ya for wishing though lolGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: ».UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.
Look I know Crown Crates are widely disliked by many but denial is not becoming... Can't blame ya for wishing though lol
Its not denial. Its patience. People love to imaginr boogeymen.
I actually dont see much diff between 150% for 30m vs 50% for two hours the currebt crown xp scroll. Cant know how it compares until we see real prices.
But for comparison to live in game stuff, when we have so much coming in 12, i wont lose any sweat over this until i see if they give other in game options.
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Lumbermill_Emperor✭✭✭✭i wish they add exchange and trade crown items(as they stated before) so i can buy this scrolls from donaters for goldEdited by Lumbermill_Emperor on September 21, 2016 8:42PM0 -
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✭At the time that the game is no longer enjoyable to you I suggest you stop playing. As long as the game is enjoyable play on but don't start stomping your feet crying about they promised this or that just because you don't agree with the direction the developers are taking their game.
Btw the quote above seems more like a statement than a promise as so many are claiming. And said statement was true a year and half ago when it was made.
I have had 10 crown exp scrolls in my bank for quite some time now since zos gave them to me for messing up my eso+ for awhile. I say this because once you reach a certain point in the game any bonus experience is irrelevant.
Basically people are crying because beginner players may not have to gain exp at the same rate they did. This has absolutely no value to someone who is at end game with Max cp, unless they decide to create another alt in which case they will be able to do so slightly faster.
For approximately 30 minutes anyways.
Things change within company's including various policies that they may have.
When game was released you was not able to play with other factions but guess what that is changing also.
Compare this game to any legitimate pay 2 win game and you will see any claim this game is pay 2 win is completely unfounded.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's not the fact that these scrolls exist (and will definitely also be in the game when crown crates hit us with 1Tam) that's the issue, it's the blatant fact that this is merely the beginning. The sheer amount of effort they have been putting into their crown shop (while putting no effort into making any new content), and now these coin milking crown crates, shows that plain as day.
It starts with convenience items as well as crate obtainable only pets and mounts, and little by little you will see everything migrate into these coin milking crates.
Already you can open these crates and get a load of cosmetics not available otherwise, you can get a bunch of repair kits, mimic stones and not having to grind for style stones like the rest of us do. May not be pay to win, but it's definitely 'pay to obtain the same stuff others have to grind for and spend time to get'.
Considering that ZOS is spending so much time on their crown crates and crown shop, do you really think they will stop here and call it a day? No, for more than half a year now they have just been expanding and expanding it, little by little.
First it only had stuff you could get in the game otherwise, then it had stuff you cannot get in the game otherwise, now they introduce stuff slightly better than what's in the game, and you can bet your sweet behinds that a year from now you'll see much better and useful items in the crown crates. Just at a low RNG, gotta milk that dollar, ya know.3 -
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✭✭All of you that are saying "its not p2w" are missing the true point here.
The issue here is integrity. They said they would NEVER put ANY consumibles in the crown store that are better than crafted consumables. They said it on there FAQ, they said it in a live stream, and they have said it here on the forums.
Looks like they lied. Integrity, is on its way out. One person in this thread even said "that was 2 years ago, things change" Had to just smh at that one. On that logic, I married my wife 20 years ago so the promises I made are no longer valid. Im sure that would go over well with the wife.
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: ».UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.
Look I know Crown Crates are widely disliked by many but denial is not becoming... Can't blame ya for wishing though lol
Its not denial. Its patience. People love to imaginr boogeymen.
I actually dont see much diff between 150% for 30m vs 50% for two hours the currebt crown xp scroll. Cant know how it compares until we see real prices.
But for comparison to live in game stuff, when we have so much coming in 12, i wont lose any sweat over this until i see if they give other in game options.
The only difference is your time spent on gaining XP and how important is your time spent in the game to you.
With this item anyone with alot of luck or alot of $$$ will end up gaining 3x more than you in the same time. And there's no way you can catch up with them with in game means. This gives and unfair advantage for those with alot of luck or alot of $$$. Atrocious!
The most important thing on MMO is not the weapon you wear. It's your time spent. Yes with an awesome weapon you'll kill stuff faster and save time for other lucrative activities. Yes with a "convinient" 150% XP you'll level up faster or gain CP faster hence becoming stronger faster and save time for other lucrative activities.
Quite "convinient"...
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✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: ».UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.
Look I know Crown Crates are widely disliked by many but denial is not becoming... Can't blame ya for wishing though lol
Its not denial. Its patience. People love to imaginr boogeymen.
I actually dont see much diff between 150% for 30m vs 50% for two hours the currebt crown xp scroll. Cant know how it compares until we see real prices.
But for comparison to live in game stuff, when we have so much coming in 12, i wont lose any sweat over this until i see if they give other in game options.
There is smoke on the horizon. A prudent person acts as soon as they see that smoke, whereas a fool waits complacently until the wildfire is at their doorstep.
These scrolls are currently obtainable on the PTS. They're coming unless our feedback convinces ZOS otherwise. And, no, there are no craftable options coming to compete with these scrolls--my datamining reveals nothing of the sort on the PTS. So, again, unless feedback convinces ZOS otherwise, there will be no craftables to prevent ZOS from breaking their promise.
So, here we are, providing that feedback, and your response is "wait and see"? That's foolish.
And to everyone else who think that this is a tempest in a teapot, yes, XP isn't exactly that important, esp. for someone like me who is far above the CP cap. But this nevertheless warrants alarm because it's a broken promise and a step down the slippery slope to who knows what else. We must draw the line, and we must draw it here.Edited by code65536 on September 21, 2016 9:15PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: ».UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.
Look I know Crown Crates are widely disliked by many but denial is not becoming... Can't blame ya for wishing though lol
Its not denial. Its patience. People love to imaginr boogeymen.
I actually dont see much diff between 150% for 30m vs 50% for two hours the currebt crown xp scroll. Cant know how it compares until we see real prices.
But for comparison to live in game stuff, when we have so much coming in 12, i wont lose any sweat over this until i see if they give other in game options.
That's not patience. It's trying to deny the Crown Crates are coming sooner than you personally think they will.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭Lumbermill_Emperor wrote: »first call was craft bags
this is second call
Not the craft bag argument again. How in the world is that gonna make me better than you? The fact that you even brought up crafting bags being P2W shows you have run out of arguments.Edited by FLuFFyxMuFFiN on September 21, 2016 9:53PM5 -
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✭✭✭My apologies but I didn't feel like reading all 5 pages of posts to know if this is the case... but my first thought upon reading this was:
"Can't we use both?"
If that is the case I really don't see a problem here. Earning experience would be a large balance issue if they suddenly raised the CP cap to extremely high levels. It would also make the game monotously grindy and I think a lot of players would resent that. I'm fairly certain most players of this game didn't come to it for a Korean-style grindfest. There are many people who love that style of game, and they have options to play that, I don't really foresee ZoS making this kind of shift. I will say however that one could have concerns about the entire notion of selling experience scrolls, and how it might tend toward giving ZoS a good reason to make earning levels painful. Let's all hope they don't go that road, because then the game will become a boring grindfest.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: ».UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.
Look I know Crown Crates are widely disliked by many but denial is not becoming... Can't blame ya for wishing though lol
Its not denial. Its patience. People love to imaginr boogeymen.
I actually dont see much diff between 150% for 30m vs 50% for two hours the currebt crown xp scroll. Cant know how it compares until we see real prices.
But for comparison to live in game stuff, when we have so much coming in 12, i wont lose any sweat over this until i see if they give other in game options.
That's not patience. It's trying to deny the Crown Crates are coming sooner than you personally think they will.
Really?
I think they are coming with 12.
Since you somehow know what i personalky think, by alk means, support your claim.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: ».UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.
Look I know Crown Crates are widely disliked by many but denial is not becoming... Can't blame ya for wishing though lol
Its not denial. Its patience. People love to imaginr boogeymen.
I actually dont see much diff between 150% for 30m vs 50% for two hours the currebt crown xp scroll. Cant know how it compares until we see real prices.
But for comparison to live in game stuff, when we have so much coming in 12, i wont lose any sweat over this until i see if they give other in game options.
That's not patience. It's trying to deny the Crown Crates are coming sooner than you personally think they will.
Really?
I think they are coming with 12.
Since you somehow know what i personalky think, by alk means, support your claim.
If you think it's coming with 12 why make it sound like you think it's coming later? Good grief dude lolGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: ».UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.
So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.
Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.
two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?
Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?
Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.
@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:
50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes
They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.
RE the bold - no they dont exist.
crown crates are in playtest.
So these are a maybe future someday thing
It's on the PTS as we speak. That means it's coming very soon, probably with One Tamriel..
Yes, maybe one day.
Look I know Crown Crates are widely disliked by many but denial is not becoming... Can't blame ya for wishing though lol
Its not denial. Its patience. People love to imaginr boogeymen.
I actually dont see much diff between 150% for 30m vs 50% for two hours the currebt crown xp scroll. Cant know how it compares until we see real prices.
But for comparison to live in game stuff, when we have so much coming in 12, i wont lose any sweat over this until i see if they give other in game options.
That's not patience. It's trying to deny the Crown Crates are coming sooner than you personally think they will.
Really?
I think they are coming with 12.
Since you somehow know what i personalky think, by alk means, support your claim.
If you think it's coming with 12 why make it sound like you think it's coming later? Good grief dude lol
I didnt. I kept pointing out its not here yet, so comparisons and outrage over such comparisons makes little sense. Its only valid if you have context. We dont know whether there are adfitiinal options for crafting xp.
But of course people tend to see what they wsntvto see.
Of course not everything put on PTS makes it as quickly as ecpected.
Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
YFMV Your Fun May Vary.
First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."1