"It will always be items worse than what you can craft" topic

elvenmad

Just wait for the Crown Crate special Alloys,Wax's and gold crafting mats, b'cos there coming, this is only the beginning its just a matter of time.

Unsent.Soul

Stop changing the title and let ths thread die....

Lumbermill_Emperor wrote: »

@DocFrost72
ok right now im getting 993 exp with eso+ and ambrosia
by cp300 template for cp160 zombie

from cp300 to cp400 i need 30 566 777 exp

so i need to kill 30 782 zombies
for example i can kill 1000 zombies per hour
its ~30.7 hours

if you grinding 3 hours per day its 11 days


with eso+ and grand scroll
im getting 1614 per mob

its 18 938 zombies from cp300 to 400
18.9 hours

7 days


7 days < 11 days

PAY TO PROGRESS CONFIRMED

Let it go champ, your whole basis on this first being P2W, now P2 Progress is rather hilarious and embarrassing for you. Your bickering about something for the sake of bickering...

You're the kid that is dying to say "I TOLD YOU SO" but is still wrong at the end of the day.

Pay to play is what we're doing. If someone chooses to pay to progress how is that a big deal?

Grow up and let this thread die.

Wow

It's not Pay to win, but they are Contradicting themselves



"In fact, crafters will be able to create the best version of consumable items."

Well it's not fact anymore with that item which is 3x better than Psijic Ambrossia. So sure they said no Pay to win stuffs, but how can you sure they won't contradict themselves again in the future?

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

Maybe they will add a better XP potion you can craft as well that is 200% for 30 min or 150% for an hour. That way they won't contradict themselves on this whole situation.

Vrathak

Is ZOS going to comment on this? Either they forgot to increase Psijic Ambrosia or add a second recipe giving 150% exp bonus in the game that is craftable... either it`s a display bug and it is still in fact 50%... either they just don`t care anymore and figured they`d make a lot of money out of it...

so.... can ZOS comment on which one is true here?

Lumbermill_Emperor

@dwemer_paleologist
you must go to first page and read first post again, lol

its clearly false promise

Lumbermill_Emperor

@Unsent.Soul in your dreams

Holycannoli

They'll argue that's a scroll and not a potion so it doesn't apply.

ElliottXO

There is a fair CP cap. Useless thread.

STEVIL

Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.

So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.

Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.

two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?

Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?

Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.

Sigma957

Its only xp and once you hit cp cap then they don't really matter. Crafted pots are always better than the ones you can get in the store. Now if they put maelstrom/master weapons in the store then sure there is the p2w thing happening.

UltimaJoe777

STEVIL wrote: »

Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.

So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.

Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.

two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?

Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?

Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.

They are 1 of many possible things in the new Crown Crates.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.

So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.

Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.

two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?

Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?

Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.

They are 1 of many possible things in the new Crown Crates.

Which seem to be very rare drops

UltimaJoe777

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.

So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.

Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.

two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?

Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?

Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.

They are 1 of many possible things in the new Crown Crates.

Which seem to be very rare drops

The better items and collectibles usually will be.

ComboBreaker88

Lumbermill_Emperor wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno
forgive me but im mad now
when i saw you adding this scrolls to update12...
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26604



dam ZOS...




EXAMPLE
right now im getting 993 exp with eso+ and ambrosia
by cp300 template for cp160 zombie
from cp300 to cp400 i need 30 566 777 exp
so i need to kill 30 782 zombies
for example i can kill 1000 zombies per hour
its ~30.7 hours
if you grinding 3 hours per day its 11 days

with eso+ and grand scroll
im getting 1614 per mob
its 18 938 zombies from cp300 to 400
18.9 hours
7 days

7 days < 11 days
PAY TO PROGRESS CONFIRMED

Psijic is 50min with lvl 50 food making...

This is NOT pay to win. It gives xp. Sure people will be able to level faster, but it doesnt provide any in game benefit other than getting to end game faster.

mobicera

This is such a joke thread, the title has been changed, stances have changed arguments in some cases are contradictory...
Next time do some research first.
The fact that the crafting stance has changed shows a lack of integrity, perhaps if that is how this was begun it could be taken seriously.
As it is now it is just a sad joke and far less comical than when it was started.

Lumbermill_Emperor

@STEVIL its update12 item

@Sigma957 well in update 12 crafted drink will become worst than crownm read first post again

alexkdd99

MissBizz wrote: »

In my eyes it's not a matter of Pay 2 Win or not, it's showcasing that Zos is willing and able to go against the standards they set for themselves.

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26604

WILL CONSUMABLES BE TAKEN OUT OF THE GAME AND MOVED TO THE CROWN STORE?
Updated 03/16/2015 11:24 AM Published 01/23/2015 05:22 PM
Consumables will remain in the game, and crafters will still be able to create them. In fact, crafters will be able create the best versions of consumable items.

Emphasis by me.

They need to change the scrolls, give crafters a better version, or fix this support article.

You know over time things change right? You are quoting something that is over a year and half old. I honestly don't see how people could read that and start crying nearly 2 years later because things changed.

Not sure if there is more to that conversation or not but I would assume it was in reference to something being added to the crown store and at the time that statement was made it was completely true.

Did they actually say we promise to never put a consumable in the crown store that is slightly better? Or is that one comment what people are crying about?

code65536

STEVIL wrote: »

Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.

So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.

Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.

two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?

Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?

Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.

@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:

50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes

They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.

STEVIL

code65536 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Ok so first off - these scrolls dont exist.
just looked in crown store - they aren't there.

So these are a maybe future someday thing without any context whatsoever.

Remember the cake? Re-usable for lotsa xp bonus. better than ambrosia. Started with a crown store.

two different holiday events planned - are these scrolls limited to them?

Will we see upgraded versions of recipes in U12 or when these scrolls come out that makes comparing these FUTURE add-ins to CURRENT alternatives rather silly, misguided and definitely overreactive?

Even if not, its Xp, not power. Convenience/speed is what the crown store is for.

@STEVIL These scrolls do exist. The Crown Crates can yield one of three scroll types:

50% for 30 minutes
100% for 30 minutes
150% for 30 minutes

They are specifically named as "Crown Crate" scrolls. All three scrolls had been found via datamining before the Crown Crate test began yesterday, and people testing Crown Crates are already reporting finding these scrolls. So, yes, they do exist (on the PTS) and unless people convince ZOS to change course (which is what this thread is about), they will soon exist on Live as well.

RE the bold - no they dont exist.

crown crates are in playtest.

So these are a maybe future someday thing

STEVIL

Lumbermill_Emperor wrote: »

@STEVIL its update12 item

@Sigma957 well in update 12 crafted drink will become worst than crownm read first post again

Which dont exist yet outside of playtest.

So these are a maybe future someday thing .

Khairiah

Is it alright to laugh at this?

STEVIL

Khairiah wrote: »

Is it alright to laugh at this?

of course.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

Khairiah wrote: »

Is it alright to laugh at this?

I've been laughing since it started

DocFrost72

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Khairiah wrote: »

Is it alright to laugh at this?

I've been laughing since it started

^

Khairiah

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Khairiah wrote: »

Is it alright to laugh at this?

I've been laughing since it started

So was I.. but then I was wondering if I maybe missed some hidden writing or something that only few selected people could see..

code65536

STEVIL wrote: »

RE the bold - no they dont exist.

crown crates are in playtest.

So these are a maybe future someday thing

So? That is the whole point of this thread, isn't it? To lobby ZOS to either confine their existence to the PTS and make sure they don't make it to Live, or that their arrival at Live comes with appropriate mitigations (e.g., a stronger crafted version).

Once they exist in the Live environment without a crafted counterpart, then it's too late.

DocFrost72

Khairiah wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Khairiah wrote: »

Is it alright to laugh at this?

I've been laughing since it started

So was I.. but then I was wondering if I maybe missed some hidden writing or something that only few selected people could see..

Nope, just a difference of opinion. I just find the other opinion so out there it is comedic to me.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

Khairiah wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Khairiah wrote: »

Is it alright to laugh at this?

I've been laughing since it started

So was I.. but then I was wondering if I maybe missed some hidden writing or something that only few selected people could see..

Nope just the same old complaints about P2W

Khairiah

Smh.. Calm down about it already, its just an xp scroll.. since u can already get to 50 in like 4 hours it doesnt make much change anyway.