Calling all AD back to TF

God_flakes

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

@Dashima I like your list. Let me flesh it out a bit more if you don't mind. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

DC TF
Blood of Daggerfall (12-24)
Iron Legion (12-24+)
Pug Guild (12-24+)
The Kelly Gang (8-16)
Wormhole (24+ lol)
Requiem (12-24)
The K-Hole (8-16)
Daggerfall Pride (12-24)
etc (other nonregular, small groups like Elder Skills)

DC Haderus:
Legion of Mordor: 8-16

AD TF
Dominion Knights (12-24)
Fantasia (12-24, now returning from Haderus)
RAM (12-24, idk if they're still running)

AD Haderus
Hagnado (8-16)
Children of Hircine (8-24)

EP TF
Pact Miliita (16-24+, now returning from Haderus)
Blood for the Pact (12-16)
Haxus (8-16)
LFG (12-16)
Raven and the Rose (8-16)(now returning from Haderus)
Phoenix Rising (12-24)
Cat Six (2-6)
SOTP (4-16)

EP Haderus:
Darkest Requiem (8-16)(just moved away from TF)
There is a couple others but unknown size and activity

Lol and here I thought EP was smallscale for once!!!!
Hagnado is mostly TF though and should be moved back into the TF list.

Also don't forget Dominion Imperial Guard (DIG) which I think is homed on Had - don't know the size of their groups but assume something like 8-20

I love the idea of this list. It would be great for someone to start a thread "NA PC Guilds and their Servers" or something like that and maintain a list. First comment can be edited regularly by somebody with the time and comments can just be for guild officers to provide updates when things change

Crispen started a thread like this.

Cool! I seem to remember a "roll call" thread or something like that.

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

NACtron wrote: »

Your source is flawed. EP certainly won at least the two out of three of the last campaigns. I am pretty sure we won the last one too. There was a lot of EP night capping going on though so when primetime came around we did not even worry about map Control. Instead we pretty much stayed south going Fantasia or Hagnado hunting around the Sej Drake area. Being on TF is interesting change of pace as we find ourselves mostly fighting up north now.

@God_flakes I don´t know if this makes it clearer. EP has been winning for some time.

Yes because Ep zerged the server down and nobody wants to deal with them. They need to lay in the bed the made. Sorry.

At least, for now, you seem to have gotten the facts right. Toast! No need to say sorry.

Maybe I don't really need another toast!

Don't try to distract us with boobs. Guys -dodge roll out of her red circles of deceit/insults/boobs

Hey when all else fails!

I'm not trying to be either deceitful or insulting. I am a natural skeptic. I was trying to gather all the info before I made my proclamation. And that is TF is just fine the way it is. We don't need 2 additional Ep and 2 additional ad guilds. We need the ad there to organize and L2p. Ep are holding their own and don't need their zerg saviors to come throw the whole campaign out of whack.

Crispen_Longbow

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Don't try to distract us with boobs. Guys -dodge roll out of her red circles of deceit/insults/boobs

Well in all fairness they are Hard to ignore!

Crispen started a thread like this.

Here is my old thread on Guilds.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266730/pc-na-trueflame-and-haderus-know-thy-enemy-an-overview-of-guilds/p1

I need to update it again for this next cycle. How much time is left in the current TF cycle? I'm in Boston until the end of the week so can't jump on to look.

God_flakes

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

Then why are you commenting on something you only know of 2nd or 3rd hand? Get your info firsthand and stop trying to sound like you know what's going on in Hadrus. Every 3rd post is trying to explain what's going on. Enough is enough

Get it firsthand? Oh you mean only take the word of the ad and Ep commenting here? Uh huh.

Minno

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

@Dashima I like your list. Let me flesh it out a bit more if you don't mind. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

DC TF
Blood of Daggerfall (12-24)
Iron Legion (12-24+)
Pug Guild (12-24+)
The Kelly Gang (8-16)
Wormhole (24+ lol)
Requiem (12-24)
The K-Hole (8-16)
Daggerfall Pride (12-24)
etc (other nonregular, small groups like Elder Skills)

DC Haderus:
Legion of Mordor: 8-16

AD TF
Dominion Knights (12-24)
Fantasia (12-24, now returning from Haderus)
RAM (12-24, idk if they're still running)

AD Haderus
Hagnado (8-16)
Children of Hircine (8-24)

EP TF
Pact Miliita (16-24+, now returning from Haderus)
Blood for the Pact (12-16)
Haxus (8-16)
LFG (12-16)
Raven and the Rose (8-16)(now returning from Haderus)
Phoenix Rising (12-24)
Cat Six (2-6)
SOTP (4-16)

EP Haderus:
Darkest Requiem (8-16)(just moved away from TF)
There is a couple others but unknown size and activity

Lol and here I thought EP was smallscale for once!!!!
Hagnado is mostly TF though and should be moved back into the TF list.

Also don't forget Dominion Imperial Guard (DIG) which I think is homed on Had - don't know the size of their groups but assume something like 8-20

I love the idea of this list. It would be great for someone to start a thread "NA PC Guilds and their Servers" or something like that and maintain a list. First comment can be edited regularly by somebody with the time and comments can just be for guild officers to provide updates when things change

Crispen started a thread like this.

Cool! I seem to remember a "roll call" thread or something like that.

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

NACtron wrote: »

Your source is flawed. EP certainly won at least the two out of three of the last campaigns. I am pretty sure we won the last one too. There was a lot of EP night capping going on though so when primetime came around we did not even worry about map Control. Instead we pretty much stayed south going Fantasia or Hagnado hunting around the Sej Drake area. Being on TF is interesting change of pace as we find ourselves mostly fighting up north now.

@God_flakes I don´t know if this makes it clearer. EP has been winning for some time.

Yes because Ep zerged the server down and nobody wants to deal with them. They need to lay in the bed the made. Sorry.

At least, for now, you seem to have gotten the facts right. Toast! No need to say sorry.

Maybe I don't really need another toast!

Don't try to distract us with boobs. Guys -dodge roll out of her red circles of deceit/insults/boobs

Too late, I'm out of stamina. Damn Magicka build .

antihero727

God_flakes wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

Then why are you commenting on something you only know of 2nd or 3rd hand? Get your info firsthand and stop trying to sound like you know what's going on in Hadrus. Every 3rd post is trying to explain what's going on. Enough is enough

Get it firsthand? Oh you mean only take the word of the ad and Ep commenting here? Uh huh.

Get it firsthand, go to each server and play to get info for spamming forums with information seen with your own eyes.

God_flakes

zyk wrote: »

ZOS should setup a campaign exclusively for Pact Militia and guilds who enjoy farming Pact Militia. The result would be better PVP for everyone!

According to my DC Haderus friends that would be Haderus.

I guess that's what they meant by "rocking it".

PM, stay on Haderus and continue to provide the DC there with ap.

Ghostbane

God_flakes wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

Then why are you commenting on something you only know of 2nd or 3rd hand? Get your info firsthand and stop trying to sound like you know what's going on in Hadrus. Every 3rd post is trying to explain what's going on. Enough is enough

Get it firsthand? Oh you mean only take the word of the ad and Ep commenting here? Uh huh.

A brief History of Haderus
AD ruled Haderus by the zerg for many months until early this year. Around BDO release, more and more DC homed Haderus, through rerolls and campaign transfers. It went to the point of where DC outnumbered everything and having an all blue map became a thing. Until the beginning of this TF cycle, where a fair few EP guilds moved over, alongside some AD guilds.

God_flakes

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

Then why are you commenting on something you only know of 2nd or 3rd hand? Get your info firsthand and stop trying to sound like you know what's going on in Hadrus. Every 3rd post is trying to explain what's going on. Enough is enough

Get it firsthand? Oh you mean only take the word of the ad and Ep commenting here? Uh huh.

Get it firsthand, go to each server and play to get info for spamming forums with information seen with your own eyes.

Digging deep for wise cracks now, aren't we? Unrustle your jimmies.

God_flakes

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

Then why are you commenting on something you only know of 2nd or 3rd hand? Get your info firsthand and stop trying to sound like you know what's going on in Hadrus. Every 3rd post is trying to explain what's going on. Enough is enough

Get it firsthand? Oh you mean only take the word of the ad and Ep commenting here? Uh huh.

A brief History of Haderus
AD ruled Haderus by the zerg for many months until early this year. Around BDO release, more and more DC homed Haderus, through rerolls and campaign transfers. It went to the point of where DC outnumbered everything and having an all blue map became a thing. Until the beginning of this TF cycle, where a fair few EP guilds moved over, alongside some AD guilds.

I recall the ad reign of terror on Haderus. It was disgusting. They would sit there night after night poplocked against one bar of Ep and DC. Shameful. So AD proved they can win with obscene numbers, then Ep proved they can win with obscene numbers and in between there DC won on equal footing a couple times. Sounds about right. Now DC is winning on TF with about equal numbers/pretty decent balance....and the bellowing and bellyaching is going out loud and clear that this can't be allowed to happen, so therefore....bring back the obscene AD and EP numbers! Can't wait!

dashima

I think @God_flakes is right guys.

AD can only compete through overwhelming numbers and if the one or two AD guilds on Haderus move back to TF, everything will fall apart! That's like, 100 more AD! #Triggered



"Oh my god Revan, you filthy zerger/ganker/farmer/cheater/pleb, stop cherry-picking your images!"




"Don't come back to Trueflame, you'll ruin the balance if you farm potatoes all day long at the Claw!"

To which I reply:

God_flakes

I know I'm right. AD came in last place and yet here they are saying they're leaving because they can't find fights or some such nonsense. Very amusing. If you're in last place clearly you're finding fights. You're just losing them.

ataggs

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

@Dashima I like your list. Let me flesh it out a bit more if you don't mind. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

DC TF
Blood of Daggerfall (12-24)
Iron Legion (12-24+)
Pug Guild (12-24+)
The Kelly Gang (8-16)
Wormhole (24+ lol)
Requiem (12-24)
The K-Hole (8-16)
Daggerfall Pride (12-24)
etc (other nonregular, small groups like Elder Skills)

DC Haderus:
Legion of Mordor: 8-16

AD TF
Dominion Knights (12-24)
Fantasia (12-24, now returning from Haderus)
RAM (12-24, idk if they're still running)

AD Haderus
Hagnado (8-16)
Children of Hircine (8-24)

EP TF
Pact Miliita (16-24+, now returning from Haderus)
Blood for the Pact (12-16)
Haxus (8-16)
LFG (12-16)
Raven and the Rose (8-16)(now returning from Haderus)
Phoenix Rising (12-24)
Cat Six (2-6)
SOTP (4-16)

EP Haderus:
Darkest Requiem (8-16)(just moved away from TF)
There is a couple others but unknown size and activity

Lol and here I thought EP was smallscale for once!!!!
Hagnado is mostly TF though and should be moved back into the TF list.

Also don't forget Dominion Imperial Guard (DIG) which I think is homed on Had - don't know the size of their groups but assume something like 8-20

I love the idea of this list. It would be great for someone to start a thread "NA PC Guilds and their Servers" or something like that and maintain a list. First comment can be edited regularly by somebody with the time and comments can just be for guild officers to provide updates when things change

Crispen started a thread like this.

Cool! I seem to remember a "roll call" thread or something like that.

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

NACtron wrote: »

Your source is flawed. EP certainly won at least the two out of three of the last campaigns. I am pretty sure we won the last one too. There was a lot of EP night capping going on though so when primetime came around we did not even worry about map Control. Instead we pretty much stayed south going Fantasia or Hagnado hunting around the Sej Drake area. Being on TF is interesting change of pace as we find ourselves mostly fighting up north now.

@God_flakes I don´t know if this makes it clearer. EP has been winning for some time.

Yes because Ep zerged the server down and nobody wants to deal with them. They need to lay in the bed the made. Sorry.

At least, for now, you seem to have gotten the facts right. Toast! No need to say sorry.

Maybe I don't really need another toast!

Don't try to distract us with boobs. Guys -dodge roll out of her red circles of deceit/insults/boobs

Don't forget the disease damage. It's hard to purge off.

WuffyCerulei

Population fluctuates. It happens. EP has its down times, and DC...DC likes to hide. *changes lion symbol to turtle* At least in Haderus they do. As soon as the EP guilds went to Had to clean up the mess, they ran off to TF, only to run back when they have the low-pop bonus. AD seems to have a good presence in TF and Haderus. Currently AD is bottom, but they still like to poke at EP a lot, even though we're only second. Attack DC. Heck, go steal their scrolls and Ash and Ales. I guarentee that if AD at least held Aleswell, EP will put up a mean fight for it. We seem to have a hard on for Ales, like DC with Chal.
I respect AD because you guys don't run and hide when things get too tough. You actually put up a fight. (I'd linger around the huge fights more if I didn't have such a crap computer.) But in the current state of TF, you guys really need to push DC rather than the newbie cherries. Instead of snatching BRK while EP is trying to get their scroll back and DC holds Brindle and Roe, focus more on your home keeps. Don't be a mess like EP is half the time.

OtarTheMad

For some odd reason reading this thread the last page or two I can relate to this gif a lot.

Rohamad_Ali

Meilinka wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I've been grinding for my legendary mats after hitting 160 . I'm a quarter the way done but it takes a lot of money to be doing this . That way I'll be more effective when I returned .

Send me a PM or mail I will treat you to some mats.

@Meilinka

You are too kind . I tried playing music for mats but always get hit with pot plants and I don't need provisioning .

WuffyCerulei

OtarTheMad wrote: »

For some odd reason reading this thread the last page or two I can relate to this gif a lot.

dashima

God_flakes wrote: »

I know I'm right. AD came in last place and yet here they are saying they're leaving because they can't find fights or some such nonsense. Very amusing. If you're in last place clearly you're finding fights. You're just losing them.

Or (this might be a shock, I know) EP has a round-the-clock presence on Haderus and while they get lots of pressure during primetime, they still find a way to paint the entire map red by 5 am.

That's really what scoreboards reflect. Not the skill of an alliance/its groups or how many fights we won, but the number of people an alliance has and who has more when the NA guys go to bed. Like I said, when any of the AD guilds were on, most of the map would go yellow and Nikolai (who was actually there and I can't believe I agree w the guy) or any of the other EP/AD that were actually there, knows what's up.

When you say things like these groups are leaving because they "lost," you show that you don't know a thing you're talking about. EP groups are leaving too, yet they won the last couple campaigns. We're all in it for the AP and the fights, not the scoreboard.

Celas_Dranacea

I just heard from my sister's dogsitter's 2nd cousin-in-law's pool guy that on Azuras Star, DC is getting farmed at the gates by mudcrabs. Really shameful.

WuffyCerulei

Factions in TF at the moment:

DC:


AD:


EP:

God_flakes

dashima wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I know I'm right. AD came in last place and yet here they are saying they're leaving because they can't find fights or some such nonsense. Very amusing. If you're in last place clearly you're finding fights. You're just losing them.

Or (this might be a shock, I know) EP has a round-the-clock presence on Haderus and while they get lots of pressure during primetime, they still find a way to paint the entire map red by 5 am.

That's really what scoreboards reflect. Not the skill of an alliance/its groups or how many fights we won, but the number of people an alliance has and who has more when the NA guys go to bed. Like I said, when any of the AD guilds were on, most of the map would go yellow and Nikolai (who was actually there and I can't believe I agree w the guy) or any of the other EP/AD that were actually there, knows what's up.

When you say things like these groups are leaving because they "lost," you prove that you don't know a thing you're talking about. I'm not sure if I'm even supposed to take you seriously at this point. EP groups are leaving too btw, and yet they won the last couple campaigns.

Haderus is fun if you're running like maybe 4-man groups because the players there are mostly bad. You can literally cap all the scrolls and emperorship with a single 12-man group if you really wanted to. It's boring and it sucks. I'm in it for the AP and the fights, not some lame scoreboard lol.

You're leaving cuz you lost. You're not leaving because you're amazing and awesome. You realize you can't win so you wanna return to where you were able to pull off some wins with the help of lots and lots of other ad. It's ok...I get it on some level.

dashima

God_flakes wrote: »

You realize you can't win so you wanna return to where you were able to pull off some wins with the help of lots and lots of other ad. It's ok...I get it on some level.

Vitaely

@God_flakes

Jauriel, what you don't seem to understand is Haderus is a WEEKLY campaign. Losing a home keep (and its resources) for half a day can wreck your score. Coupled with the low pop bonus it's no wonder DC got the second place.

And the AD guilds vacating the campaign: They are active a few hours a day and cannot control the state of the map as well as a monthly campaign with coordinated guilds. If they say they had an amazing time it means they won a number of fights they fought while they were online. @dashima 's pics are all proof of that.

Additionally, you seem to equate number of yellow chevrons to map control. Meanwhile, number of active guilds is equal to map control. Unless you want to be the AD Shadowgrabber or PUG Guild and lead them yourself on Trueflame, all those ungrouped pugs you see are basically doing this against keep walls:

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

AD:

antihero727

God_flakes wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I know I'm right. AD came in last place and yet here they are saying they're leaving because they can't find fights or some such nonsense. Very amusing. If you're in last place clearly you're finding fights. You're just losing them.

Or (this might be a shock, I know) EP has a round-the-clock presence on Haderus and while they get lots of pressure during primetime, they still find a way to paint the entire map red by 5 am.

That's really what scoreboards reflect. Not the skill of an alliance/its groups or how many fights we won, but the number of people an alliance has and who has more when the NA guys go to bed. Like I said, when any of the AD guilds were on, most of the map would go yellow and Nikolai (who was actually there and I can't believe I agree w the guy) or any of the other EP/AD that were actually there, knows what's up.

When you say things like these groups are leaving because they "lost," you prove that you don't know a thing you're talking about. I'm not sure if I'm even supposed to take you seriously at this point. EP groups are leaving too btw, and yet they won the last couple campaigns.

Haderus is fun if you're running like maybe 4-man groups because the players there are mostly bad. You can literally cap all the scrolls and emperorship with a single 12-man group if you really wanted to. It's boring and it sucks. I'm in it for the AP and the fights, not some lame scoreboard lol.

You're lead if cuz you lost. You're not leaving because you're amazing and awesome. You realize you can't win so you wanna return to where you were able to pull off some wins with the help of lots and lots of other ad. It's ok...I get it on some level.

Here you go again spouting garbage with 2nd hand information. Lol you must be a older Canadian woman. Please stop this before you embarrass yourself anymore today.

Thelon

antihero727 wrote: »

Lol you must be a older Canadian woman.

Canadian milfs are hawt. Its how we survive our 8 month winters

NACtron

zyk wrote: »

ZOS should setup a campaign exclusively for Pact Militia and guilds who enjoy farming Pact Militia. The result would be better PVP for everyone!

You would dare to farm the Pact Militia small man!? From what I hear there is a new mega zerg in town. The Haxus guild mega zerg. From what I have seen you will need two camapigns to fit their numbers.

NACtron

Vitaely wrote: »

Jauriel, what you don't seem to understand is Haderus is a WEEKLY campaign. Losing a home keep (and its resources) for half a day can wreck your score. Coupled with the low pop bonus it's no wonder DC got the second place.

And the AD guilds vacating the campaign: They are active a few hours a day and cannot control the state of the map as well as a monthly campaign with coordinated guilds. If they say they had an amazing time it means they won a number of fights they fought while they were online. @dashima 's pics are all proof of that.

Additionally, you seem to equate number of yellow chevrons to map control. Meanwhile, number of active guilds is equal to map control. Unless you want to be the AD Shadowgrabber or PUG Guild and lead them yourself on Trueflame, all those ungrouped pugs you see are basically doing this against keep walls:

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

AD:

But only the AD pugs are likely to do that in a Banana suit.

Vitaely

NACtron wrote: »

But only the AD pugs are likely to do that in a Banana suit.

Can't argue against that

God_flakes

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I know I'm right. AD came in last place and yet here they are saying they're leaving because they can't find fights or some such nonsense. Very amusing. If you're in last place clearly you're finding fights. You're just losing them.

Or (this might be a shock, I know) EP has a round-the-clock presence on Haderus and while they get lots of pressure during primetime, they still find a way to paint the entire map red by 5 am.

That's really what scoreboards reflect. Not the skill of an alliance/its groups or how many fights we won, but the number of people an alliance has and who has more when the NA guys go to bed. Like I said, when any of the AD guilds were on, most of the map would go yellow and Nikolai (who was actually there and I can't believe I agree w the guy) or any of the other EP/AD that were actually there, knows what's up.

When you say things like these groups are leaving because they "lost," you prove that you don't know a thing you're talking about. I'm not sure if I'm even supposed to take you seriously at this point. EP groups are leaving too btw, and yet they won the last couple campaigns.

Haderus is fun if you're running like maybe 4-man groups because the players there are mostly bad. You can literally cap all the scrolls and emperorship with a single 12-man group if you really wanted to. It's boring and it sucks. I'm in it for the AP and the fights, not some lame scoreboard lol.

You're lead if cuz you lost. You're not leaving because you're amazing and awesome. You realize you can't win so you wanna return to where you were able to pull off some wins with the help of lots and lots of other ad. It's ok...I get it on some level.

Here you go again spouting garbage with 2nd hand information. Lol you must be a older Canadian woman. Please stop this before you embarrass yourself anymore today.

I'm a hot American woman, if you must know. And I don't feel embarrassed at all. In fact I'm thoroughly amused at AD's predicament. They split their massive obscene Zerg and are losing 2 campaigns when forced to fight on their merits and not their ridic mobs.

I almost feel a sense of pity.

Celas_Dranacea

God_flakes wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I know I'm right. AD came in last place and yet here they are saying they're leaving because they can't find fights or some such nonsense. Very amusing. If you're in last place clearly you're finding fights. You're just losing them.

Or (this might be a shock, I know) EP has a round-the-clock presence on Haderus and while they get lots of pressure during primetime, they still find a way to paint the entire map red by 5 am.

That's really what scoreboards reflect. Not the skill of an alliance/its groups or how many fights we won, but the number of people an alliance has and who has more when the NA guys go to bed. Like I said, when any of the AD guilds were on, most of the map would go yellow and Nikolai (who was actually there and I can't believe I agree w the guy) or any of the other EP/AD that were actually there, knows what's up.

When you say things like these groups are leaving because they "lost," you prove that you don't know a thing you're talking about. I'm not sure if I'm even supposed to take you seriously at this point. EP groups are leaving too btw, and yet they won the last couple campaigns.

Haderus is fun if you're running like maybe 4-man groups because the players there are mostly bad. You can literally cap all the scrolls and emperorship with a single 12-man group if you really wanted to. It's boring and it sucks. I'm in it for the AP and the fights, not some lame scoreboard lol.

You're lead if cuz you lost. You're not leaving because you're amazing and awesome. You realize you can't win so you wanna return to where you were able to pull off some wins with the help of lots and lots of other ad. It's ok...I get it on some level.

Here you go again spouting garbage with 2nd hand information. Lol you must be a older Canadian woman. Please stop this before you embarrass yourself anymore today.

I'm a hot American woman, if you must know. And I don't feel embarrassed at all. In fact I'm thoroughly amused at AD's predicament. They split their massive obscene Zerg and are losing 2 campaigns when forced to fight on their merits and not their ridic mobs.

I almost feel a sense of pity.

I "think" your intention was to encourage some AD to stay on Haderus, but I'm not sure that was the effect. Speaking only for myself, I am personally now motivated to violently eat your entrails.

Thanks for the entertainment today though, honestly!

antihero727

God_flakes wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I know I'm right. AD came in last place and yet here they are saying they're leaving because they can't find fights or some such nonsense. Very amusing. If you're in last place clearly you're finding fights. You're just losing them.

Or (this might be a shock, I know) EP has a round-the-clock presence on Haderus and while they get lots of pressure during primetime, they still find a way to paint the entire map red by 5 am.

That's really what scoreboards reflect. Not the skill of an alliance/its groups or how many fights we won, but the number of people an alliance has and who has more when the NA guys go to bed. Like I said, when any of the AD guilds were on, most of the map would go yellow and Nikolai (who was actually there and I can't believe I agree w the guy) or any of the other EP/AD that were actually there, knows what's up.

When you say things like these groups are leaving because they "lost," you prove that you don't know a thing you're talking about. I'm not sure if I'm even supposed to take you seriously at this point. EP groups are leaving too btw, and yet they won the last couple campaigns.

Haderus is fun if you're running like maybe 4-man groups because the players there are mostly bad. You can literally cap all the scrolls and emperorship with a single 12-man group if you really wanted to. It's boring and it sucks. I'm in it for the AP and the fights, not some lame scoreboard lol.

You're lead if cuz you lost. You're not leaving because you're amazing and awesome. You realize you can't win so you wanna return to where you were able to pull off some wins with the help of lots and lots of other ad. It's ok...I get it on some level.

Here you go again spouting garbage with 2nd hand information. Lol you must be a older Canadian woman. Please stop this before you embarrass yourself anymore today.

I'm a hot American woman, if you must know. And I don't feel embarrassed at all. In fact I'm thoroughly amused at AD's predicament. They split their massive obscene Zerg and are losing 2 campaigns when forced to fight on their merits and not their ridic mobs.

I almost feel a sense of pity.

Like "hot" or "hot flashes"? If your baiting it might make me come back from my break early to lead again. Watch what bear you poke, they might give you the Leonardo treatment. @Rohamad_Ali please give me a good pic for this.