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Calling all AD back to TF

  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Ill cut my grind early and come help too .
  • dashima
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    Minno wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Is Haderus balanced? I haven't been so I don't know.

    It certainly doesn't have a plethora of ad there. So your call for more on TF will undoubtedly bleed more from that campaign. I can't speak to Azura's as I never go there. Perhaps someone else's can comment on that campaign. But I disagree with you that TF doesn't have enough Ad bodies. They might not be organized but asking for more ad to flood the server and win only by flooding the server will not encourage those ad to get organized and get better.

    I agree flooding the server does no good, but those that left for Haderus were organized guild groups. We need that influence on TF. We have started organizing but it is hard to compete with DC and EP groups s that have played together for a long period of time.

    How many AD guilds are there currently on TF?

    At the moment Dominion Knights and RAM (if they're still running regularly?) and idk if there are any other regular guilds running much anymore.

    Venatus is on hiatus, Arcane retired, but Fantasia and Hag should be returning from Haderus soon.
    When Venatus goes back into action next update, we should have a good 4-5 guilds on AD TF.
    Venatus | Hagnado

    AD | Revân Stamina Nightblade AR35 scrub
    AD | Rëvan Stamina Sorcerer fotm
    DC | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    tfw too lazy to grind
    AD | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    AD | Run I Triggered Them Magicka Templar
    DC | Inner Postern Wall Stamina Templar
    DC | Kaivalanth Magicka Nightblade
    DC | Rëvân Stamina Nightblade
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    When does Daggerfall Pride generally run? I would love to see them
    In action!
    Edited by Celas_Dranacea on September 14, 2016 3:36PM
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • Minno
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Unless AD magically gets about a 12-16 man guild raid that focuses primarily DC, map balance will be shite early morning. Only issue I've seen (across all time periods this cycle) is DC is just super zergy during Oceanic primetime and into NA morning--not just one campaign either.

    This population ss is typical of the daily population imbalances early morning NA(taken Tues. 9/13 9 A.M. ET)
    DUMaUA3.jpg

    Looks like we have lots of "crocodile Dundees" and "stay at home dads" playing as DC.

    DC is getting back to its roots. EG has risen but is Oceanic now. Congrats DC on being the new owners of the "unemployed" title. Kappa

    At least my taxes go towards players in my own faction. So this is what is like to hire workers to get a task done!

    I can get used to this! Zerg away, next person to up the DC faction score gets a healthy holiday bonus. Whose up for some 401k contributions? Have to put in 50 hour work weeks though.

    You're DC: you don't pay taxes. Welcome to being the faction who now owns the "unemployed" title. Kappa no Kappa

    The primetime DC groups zerg and outnumber EP /AD (according to past threads). Therefore it can be assumed those DC have jobs and pay taxes.

    Now if we also have an unemployed DC day cap crew, it can be assumed our taxes help pay for those unemployed DC to continue to "Nightcap". If this is true, then our faction is winning TF via an economic victory; the first time ever in ESO history!
    Edited by Minno on September 14, 2016 3:38PM
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • TooskSG
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    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Unless AD magically gets about a 12-16 man guild raid that focuses primarily DC, map balance will be shite early morning. Only issue I've seen (across all time periods this cycle) is DC is just super zergy during Oceanic primetime and into NA morning--not just one campaign either.

    This population ss is typical of the daily population imbalances early morning NA(taken Tues. 9/13 9 A.M. ET)
    DUMaUA3.jpg

    Looks like we have lots of "crocodile Dundees" and "stay at home dads" playing as DC.

    DC is getting back to its roots. EG has risen but is Oceanic now. Congrats DC on being the new owners of the "unemployed" title. Kappa

    At least my taxes go towards players in my own faction. So this is what is like to hire workers to get a task done!

    I can get used to this! Zerg away, next person to up the DC faction score gets a healthy holiday bonus. Whose up for some 401k contributions? Have to put in 50 hour work weeks though.

    You're DC: you don't pay taxes. Welcome to being the faction who now owns the "unemployed" title. Kappa no Kappa

    The primetime DC groups zerg and outnumber EP /AD (according to past threads). Therefore it can be assumed those DC have jobs and pay taxes.

    Now if we also have an unemployed DC day cap crew, it can be assumed our taxes help pay for those unemployed DC to continue to "Nightcap". If this is true, then our faction is winning TF via an economic victory; the first time ever in ESO history!

    Nah, more people in-game means less people outside working. DC confirmed unemployed faction 2016. EP/AD need to tighten our belts and pay more taxes so more DC zerglings and their offspring can enjoy the fruit of our labors.
  • Dreyloch
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    I'm fine with some AD coming back to TF. Just as long as you try going up the RIGHT side of the map for a change.
    "The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"
  • Minno
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Unless AD magically gets about a 12-16 man guild raid that focuses primarily DC, map balance will be shite early morning. Only issue I've seen (across all time periods this cycle) is DC is just super zergy during Oceanic primetime and into NA morning--not just one campaign either.

    This population ss is typical of the daily population imbalances early morning NA(taken Tues. 9/13 9 A.M. ET)
    DUMaUA3.jpg

    Looks like we have lots of "crocodile Dundees" and "stay at home dads" playing as DC.

    DC is getting back to its roots. EG has risen but is Oceanic now. Congrats DC on being the new owners of the "unemployed" title. Kappa

    At least my taxes go towards players in my own faction. So this is what is like to hire workers to get a task done!

    I can get used to this! Zerg away, next person to up the DC faction score gets a healthy holiday bonus. Whose up for some 401k contributions? Have to put in 50 hour work weeks though.

    You're DC: you don't pay taxes. Welcome to being the faction who now owns the "unemployed" title. Kappa no Kappa

    The primetime DC groups zerg and outnumber EP /AD (according to past threads). Therefore it can be assumed those DC have jobs and pay taxes.

    Now if we also have an unemployed DC day cap crew, it can be assumed our taxes help pay for those unemployed DC to continue to "Nightcap". If this is true, then our faction is winning TF via an economic victory; the first time ever in ESO history!

    Nah, more people in-game means less people outside working. DC confirmed unemployed faction 2016. EP/AD need to tighten our belts and pay more taxes so more DC zerglings and their offspring can enjoy the fruit of our labors.

    That's OK. Maybe you guys can get fired too and join the ranks ;). Then we can have total campaign health :).

    Though mostly these daytime DC are Japanese, it can be assumed they have more professional video gamers therefore that's their job to play the game. So technically the nightcappers are employed ;).
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • TooskSG
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    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    Unless AD magically gets about a 12-16 man guild raid that focuses primarily DC, map balance will be shite early morning. Only issue I've seen (across all time periods this cycle) is DC is just super zergy during Oceanic primetime and into NA morning--not just one campaign either.

    This population ss is typical of the daily population imbalances early morning NA(taken Tues. 9/13 9 A.M. ET)
    DUMaUA3.jpg

    Looks like we have lots of "crocodile Dundees" and "stay at home dads" playing as DC.

    DC is getting back to its roots. EG has risen but is Oceanic now. Congrats DC on being the new owners of the "unemployed" title. Kappa

    At least my taxes go towards players in my own faction. So this is what is like to hire workers to get a task done!

    I can get used to this! Zerg away, next person to up the DC faction score gets a healthy holiday bonus. Whose up for some 401k contributions? Have to put in 50 hour work weeks though.

    You're DC: you don't pay taxes. Welcome to being the faction who now owns the "unemployed" title. Kappa no Kappa

    The primetime DC groups zerg and outnumber EP /AD (according to past threads). Therefore it can be assumed those DC have jobs and pay taxes.

    Now if we also have an unemployed DC day cap crew, it can be assumed our taxes help pay for those unemployed DC to continue to "Nightcap". If this is true, then our faction is winning TF via an economic victory; the first time ever in ESO history!

    Nah, more people in-game means less people outside working. DC confirmed unemployed faction 2016. EP/AD need to tighten our belts and pay more taxes so more DC zerglings and their offspring can enjoy the fruit of our labors.

    That's OK. Maybe you guys can get fired too and join the ranks ;). Then we can have total campaign health :).

    Though mostly these daytime DC are Japanese, it can be assumed they have more professional video gamers therefore that's their job to play the game. So technically the nightcappers are employed ;).

    If we also got fired, then the unemployed DC would find another aspect of their life to be unsuccessful. Nay, we shant ruin the zerglings' dreams. #50ManZergsMatter
    Edited by TooskSG on September 14, 2016 4:02PM
  • God_flakes
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    When does Daggerfall Pride generally run? I would love to see them
    In action!

    Generally forming up 7pm est and running prime time.
  • God_flakes
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    dashima wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Is Haderus balanced? I haven't been so I don't know.

    It certainly doesn't have a plethora of ad there. So your call for more on TF will undoubtedly bleed more from that campaign. I can't speak to Azura's as I never go there. Perhaps someone else's can comment on that campaign. But I disagree with you that TF doesn't have enough Ad bodies. They might not be organized but asking for more ad to flood the server and win only by flooding the server will not encourage those ad to get organized and get better.

    I agree flooding the server does no good, but those that left for Haderus were organized guild groups. We need that influence on TF. We have started organizing but it is hard to compete with DC and EP groups s that have played together for a long period of time.

    How many AD guilds are there currently on TF?

    At the moment Dominion Knights and RAM (if they're still running regularly?) and idk if there are any other regular guilds running much anymore.

    Venatus is on hiatus, Arcane retired, but Fantasia and Hag should be returning from Haderus soon.
    When Venatus goes back into action next update, we should have a good 4-5 guilds on AD TF.

    Why, though? Why are Fantasia and Hag abandoning Haderus?
    Edited by God_flakes on September 14, 2016 3:59PM
  • Pchela
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    Lucky28 wrote: »
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    Same in EP, especially during NA daytime is lack of organization on Ad and EP that is setting up bad maps for prime time. Today DC owned 4/6 emp keeps and most of EP and AD bridged it up for a good part of the day. Going to probably start running PUGS again to try and organize the herd and funnel them elsewhere. I myself am guilty of bridge time but being plowed down while trying to take bleakers or chal with a few is frustrating and when in Rome ...

    Did learn that AD had a rough time with roe tonight due to DC camping it as well. It's same boat for us so i understand.

    I do hope that the change to Porting out of outposts enables some different map play than the bee line to the next keep or resource on the compass.

    Keep the chi and good fights up.

    Yeah well. i think the majority of EP just want to PvP. they don't want to siege. though i do try and help out; just "fine Varen/Mala i'll leave the bridge :( "

    Seriously tho. i don't care much for sieging when i'm not in a group.

    yeh i getcha, i try to rally people up and prep keeps but after awhile i'll head back to the bridge. daytime ep not many strong guilds to take on what's over there, so i don't blame people for wanting to bridge party.

    it can be frustrating as EP to see roebeck be blue but ad pushes and takes BRK. the common response is that they cant take on whats stacked in roe, so i understand how they feel.

    silly craziness on all sides, madness of pvp, i love it.
  • dashima
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Okay so here's the issue with this. Fantasia, CoH and Hagnado ran raids the past few weeks in Haderus.
    During primetime while guilds were on, AD easily took back the whole map, most keeps would turn yellow or mostly yellow, we'd get emperorship, etc. Unless Nikolai was online with a sizable group, there were really few satisfying fights. Even while EP was poplocked, few truly large EP groups were to be seen??? It was just a lot of bad pugs and it was really weird lol.

    And then after primetime, the map would go red all the way back to the scroll temples, and the process would repeat. In my opinion, after playing in Had for a good 2-3 weeks, Had does not need multiple organized groups and/or large raid groups.

    In other words, once PM and the other large TF EP groups in Haderus move out, there is no reason for the AD ones to stay either. Guilds like this are OP on Had because there's much less resistance than you would see on TF and it's unbelievably easy to do things like... cap every single keep with a single guild. lol.
    Edited by dashima on September 14, 2016 4:12PM
    Venatus | Hagnado

    AD | Revân Stamina Nightblade AR35 scrub
    AD | Rëvan Stamina Sorcerer fotm
    DC | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    tfw too lazy to grind
    AD | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    AD | Run I Triggered Them Magicka Templar
    DC | Inner Postern Wall Stamina Templar
    DC | Kaivalanth Magicka Nightblade
    DC | Rëvân Stamina Nightblade
  • God_flakes
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    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Okay so here's the issue with this. Fantasia, CoH and Hagnado ran raids the past few weeks in Haderus.
    During primetime while guilds were on, AD easily took back the whole map, most keeps would turn yellow or mostly yellow, we'd get emperorship, etc. Unless Nikolai was online with a sizable group, there were really few satisfying fights. Even while EP was poplocked, few truly large EP groups were to be seen??? It was just a lot of bad pugs and it was really weird lol.

    And then after primetime, the map would go red all the way back to the scroll temples, and the process would repeat. In my opinion, after playing in Had for a good 2-3 weeks, Had does not need multiple organized groups and/or large raid groups.

    In other words, once PM and the other large TF EP groups in Haderus move out, there is no reason for the AD ones to stay either. Guilds like this are OP on Had because there's much less resistance than you would see on TF and it's unbelievably easy to do things like... cap every single keep with a single guild. lol.

    Yeah I'm not buying this. DC won the last campaign. Sounds like ya'll are leaving cuz you got beat down.
  • NACtron
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    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Okay so here's the issue with this. Fantasia, CoH and Hagnado ran raids the past few weeks in Haderus.
    During primetime while guilds were on, AD easily took back the whole map, most keeps would turn yellow or mostly yellow, we'd get emperorship, etc. Unless Nikolai was online with a sizable group, there were really few satisfying fights. Even while EP was poplocked, few truly large EP groups were to be seen??? It was just a lot of bad pugs and it was really weird lol.

    And then after primetime, the map would go red all the way back to the scroll temples, and the process would repeat. In my opinion, after playing in Had for a good 2-3 weeks, Had does not need multiple organized groups and/or large raid groups.

    In other words, once PM and the other large TF EP groups in Haderus move out, there is no reason for the AD ones to stay either. Guilds like this are OP on Had because there's much less resistance than you would see on TF and it's unbelievably easy to do things like... cap every single keep with a single guild. lol.

    Same thing for PM. When Fantaisa Hagnado or sometimes CoH were on there were a lot of fun fights to be had on Haddy. I had a lot of fun spliting up into small forces to fight Fantasia and Hagnado even if it was really punishing at times :) However Neither Hagnado nor Fantasia run every single night and often times we would find ourselves roaming the map going "maybe there is a good fight to be had over here" only to find little more aimless pugs on both sides fighting each other. If there was a constant DC presence on Had there might have been enough motivation for us and AD to stay there a bit longer.
    Pact Militia GM
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  • vamp_emily
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    ataggs wrote: »
    We sure are trying to hold our own in TF, but we are way out gunned. It looks like only the AD guilds didn't return from Had while all the DC and EP guilds returned in full force. We could have stacked every AD guild running and still wouldn't have had enough to not get steamrolled. We couldn't take Nikel, we couldn't take Sej, we couldn't hold resources...... everywhere we went we were met with double our numbers. Is there an ETA for a return of any AD from Had or any groups in Azura who are thinking of swapping campaigns...pretty please?

    Edit: crappy spelling

    I am curious, how do you feel when you can't take nik, Sej, or even hold resources? Is the game fun for you?

    Some AD players told me to quit crying when I complained it was not fun, and they also said learn to fight and PvP is not for the weak. AD players also told me that they wish it was them that were out numbered all the time, they said they would love the challenge and the AP.

    So tell me AD player how does it feel? I really would like to know how you feel when you can't do anything but die.


    Edited by vamp_emily on September 14, 2016 7:59PM

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  • dashima
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Is Haderus balanced? I haven't been so I don't know.

    It certainly doesn't have a plethora of ad there. So your call for more on TF will undoubtedly bleed more from that campaign. I can't speak to Azura's as I never go there. Perhaps someone else's can comment on that campaign. But I disagree with you that TF doesn't have enough Ad bodies. They might not be organized but asking for more ad to flood the server and win only by flooding the server will not encourage those ad to get organized and get better.

    I agree flooding the server does no good, but those that left for Haderus were organized guild groups. We need that influence on TF. We have started organizing but it is hard to compete with DC and EP groups s that have played together for a long period of time.

    How many AD guilds are there currently on TF?

    At the moment Dominion Knights and RAM (if they're still running regularly?) and idk if there are any other regular guilds running much anymore.

    Venatus is on hiatus, Arcane retired, but Fantasia and Hag should be returning from Haderus soon.
    When Venatus goes back into action next update, we should have a good 4-5 guilds on AD TF.

    Why, though? Why are Fantasia and Hag abandoning Haderus?

    I'm not gonna speak for either guild but the general gist of it is:
    There was nothing for us there. The fights are boring/not enough action/not enough zergs to farm/oh god its telel/i miss trueflame ap.

    Something like that. :)
    Venatus | Hagnado

    AD | Revân Stamina Nightblade AR35 scrub
    AD | Rëvan Stamina Sorcerer fotm
    DC | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    tfw too lazy to grind
    AD | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    AD | Run I Triggered Them Magicka Templar
    DC | Inner Postern Wall Stamina Templar
    DC | Kaivalanth Magicka Nightblade
    DC | Rëvân Stamina Nightblade
  • NACtron
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Okay so here's the issue with this. Fantasia, CoH and Hagnado ran raids the past few weeks in Haderus.
    During primetime while guilds were on, AD easily took back the whole map, most keeps would turn yellow or mostly yellow, we'd get emperorship, etc. Unless Nikolai was online with a sizable group, there were really few satisfying fights. Even while EP was poplocked, few truly large EP groups were to be seen??? It was just a lot of bad pugs and it was really weird lol.

    And then after primetime, the map would go red all the way back to the scroll temples, and the process would repeat. In my opinion, after playing in Had for a good 2-3 weeks, Had does not need multiple organized groups and/or large raid groups.

    In other words, once PM and the other large TF EP groups in Haderus move out, there is no reason for the AD ones to stay either. Guilds like this are OP on Had because there's much less resistance than you would see on TF and it's unbelievably easy to do things like... cap every single keep with a single guild. lol.

    Yeah I'm not buying this. DC won the last campaign. Sounds like ya'll are leaving cuz you got beat down.

    In Haddy? EP has won the last three camapigns in haddy uncontested. DC was only beating AD due to a insane several day low pop bonus.
    Edited by NACtron on September 14, 2016 4:27PM
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • God_flakes
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    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Is Haderus balanced? I haven't been so I don't know.

    It certainly doesn't have a plethora of ad there. So your call for more on TF will undoubtedly bleed more from that campaign. I can't speak to Azura's as I never go there. Perhaps someone else's can comment on that campaign. But I disagree with you that TF doesn't have enough Ad bodies. They might not be organized but asking for more ad to flood the server and win only by flooding the server will not encourage those ad to get organized and get better.

    I agree flooding the server does no good, but those that left for Haderus were organized guild groups. We need that influence on TF. We have started organizing but it is hard to compete with DC and EP groups s that have played together for a long period of time.

    How many AD guilds are there currently on TF?

    At the moment Dominion Knights and RAM (if they're still running regularly?) and idk if there are any other regular guilds running much anymore.

    Venatus is on hiatus, Arcane retired, but Fantasia and Hag should be returning from Haderus soon.
    When Venatus goes back into action next update, we should have a good 4-5 guilds on AD TF.

    Why, though? Why are Fantasia and Hag abandoning Haderus?

    I'm not gonna speak for either guild but the general gist of it is:
    There was nothing for us there. The fights are boring/not enough action/not enough zergs to farm/oh god its telel/i miss trueflame ap.

    Something like that. :)

    I know the DC guilds on Haderus and know them well. Many have gotten emp in the last two weeks. They don't seem to be having a problem finding fights and making ap and getting legendary rewards at the end of the 7 days.
  • Telel
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Okay so here's the issue with this. Fantasia, CoH and Hagnado ran raids the past few weeks in Haderus.
    During primetime while guilds were on, AD easily took back the whole map, most keeps would turn yellow or mostly yellow, we'd get emperorship, etc. Unless Nikolai was online with a sizable group, there were really few satisfying fights. Even while EP was poplocked, few truly large EP groups were to be seen??? It was just a lot of bad pugs and it was really weird lol.

    And then after primetime, the map would go red all the way back to the scroll temples, and the process would repeat. In my opinion, after playing in Had for a good 2-3 weeks, Had does not need multiple organized groups and/or large raid groups.

    In other words, once PM and the other large TF EP groups in Haderus move out, there is no reason for the AD ones to stay either. Guilds like this are OP on Had because there's much less resistance than you would see on TF and it's unbelievably easy to do things like... cap every single keep with a single guild. lol.

    Yeah I'm not buying this. DC won the last campaign. Sounds like ya'll are leaving cuz you got beat down.

    They got their points in the campaign by having a constant low population bonus giving them massive boosts, and teaming up to take on the faction which had the fewest people actually PVPing. . Then all they had to do was hold onto a few keeps with a few people while all the EP and AD were either fighting each other, or in IC racking up the shiny rocks.

    Amusingly enough this is something Telel has seen the bloops use in the past to win campaigns. All they have to do is log in for a few hours to retake some land, and then go away. Since everyone else is to elfish or to busy trying to stop the griff hordes setting up gate camps there wasn't much time to pay attention to players who just vanished once they had to stand in front of their opponents.

    This one would also mention how several times it would be DC taking keeps, but the griffs taking the scrolls. However someone might point out that sounds like accusations of purpling. As khajiit has been assure such things would never happen they shall not say that. Especially not when one side has a super long queue, and the other was at one bar a half hour ago.

    Especially when mentioning such libelous things would make many a boastful elf...more elfish.
    Edited by Telel on September 14, 2016 4:38PM
    Character: Telel
    Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
    Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
    Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.

    Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.
  • dashima
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    We sure are trying to hold our own in TF, but we are way out gunned. It looks like only the AD guilds didn't return from Had while all the DC and EP guilds returned in full force. We could have stacked every AD guild running and still wouldn't have had enough to not get steamrolled. We couldn't take Nikel, we couldn't take Sej, we couldn't hold resources...... everywhere we went we were met with double our numbers. Is there an ETA for a return of any AD from Had or any groups in Azura who are thinking of swapping campaigns...pretty please?

    Edit: crappy spelling

    I am curious, how do you feel when you can't take nik, Sej, or even hold resources? Is the game fun for you?

    Some AD players told me to quit crying when I complained it was not fun, and they also said learn to fight and PvP is not for the weak. AD players also told me that they wish it was them there were out numbered all the time, they said they would love the challenge and the AP.

    So tell me AD player how does it feel? I really would like to know how you feel when you can't do anything but die.

    Can you take your BWB salt to the BWB thread please.
    I won't have you slandering good zoola's name here with some other campaign qq lol. The people in Trueflame/Had try their best to balance things where they can and point out when they think a certain faction needs support, and there's nothing wrong with that.
    Venatus | Hagnado

    AD | Revân Stamina Nightblade AR35 scrub
    AD | Rëvan Stamina Sorcerer fotm
    DC | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    tfw too lazy to grind
    AD | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    AD | Run I Triggered Them Magicka Templar
    DC | Inner Postern Wall Stamina Templar
    DC | Kaivalanth Magicka Nightblade
    DC | Rëvân Stamina Nightblade
  • God_flakes
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    NACtron wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Okay so here's the issue with this. Fantasia, CoH and Hagnado ran raids the past few weeks in Haderus.
    During primetime while guilds were on, AD easily took back the whole map, most keeps would turn yellow or mostly yellow, we'd get emperorship, etc. Unless Nikolai was online with a sizable group, there were really few satisfying fights. Even while EP was poplocked, few truly large EP groups were to be seen??? It was just a lot of bad pugs and it was really weird lol.

    And then after primetime, the map would go red all the way back to the scroll temples, and the process would repeat. In my opinion, after playing in Had for a good 2-3 weeks, Had does not need multiple organized groups and/or large raid groups.

    In other words, once PM and the other large TF EP groups in Haderus move out, there is no reason for the AD ones to stay either. Guilds like this are OP on Had because there's much less resistance than you would see on TF and it's unbelievably easy to do things like... cap every single keep with a single guild. lol.

    Yeah I'm not buying this. DC won the last campaign. Sounds like ya'll are leaving cuz you got beat down.

    In Haddy? EP has won the last three camapigns in haddy uncontested. DC was only beating AD due to a insane several day low pop bonus.

    Then I'm being given false info? I was told DC won the last campaign.
  • Telel
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    We sure are trying to hold our own in TF, but we are way out gunned. It looks like only the AD guilds didn't return from Had while all the DC and EP guilds returned in full force. We could have stacked every AD guild running and still wouldn't have had enough to not get steamrolled. We couldn't take Nikel, we couldn't take Sej, we couldn't hold resources...... everywhere we went we were met with double our numbers. Is there an ETA for a return of any AD from Had or any groups in Azura who are thinking of swapping campaigns...pretty please?

    Edit: crappy spelling

    I am curious, how do you feel when you can't take nik, Sej, or even hold resources? Is the game fun for you?

    Some AD players told me to quit crying when I complained it was not fun, and they also said learn to fight and PvP is not for the weak. AD players also told me that they wish it was them there were out numbered all the time, they said they would love the challenge and the AP.

    So tell me AD player how does it feel? I really would like to know how you feel when you can't do anything but die.

    This one feels the same as they always do.

    Amused that their opponents consider killing them as an actual accomplisment.

    Especially with that many people running the same build they got from someone else, and with all the other advantages they had in their favor. .
    Edited by Telel on September 14, 2016 4:36PM
    Character: Telel
    Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
    Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
    Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.

    Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.
  • OtarTheMad
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    It'll be interesting to see what Haderus turns into after the AD guilds who moved over leave. I am going to lean towards the negative and say that it'll be ugly but I have been wrong in the past. I am hoping it doesn't go back to being the campaign that a particular player uses to just keep emping himself in.

    It was nice having you all on the server though, even if the EP night zerg capped all of the progress that was made during Primetime.
  • NACtron
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Okay so here's the issue with this. Fantasia, CoH and Hagnado ran raids the past few weeks in Haderus.
    During primetime while guilds were on, AD easily took back the whole map, most keeps would turn yellow or mostly yellow, we'd get emperorship, etc. Unless Nikolai was online with a sizable group, there were really few satisfying fights. Even while EP was poplocked, few truly large EP groups were to be seen??? It was just a lot of bad pugs and it was really weird lol.

    And then after primetime, the map would go red all the way back to the scroll temples, and the process would repeat. In my opinion, after playing in Had for a good 2-3 weeks, Had does not need multiple organized groups and/or large raid groups.

    In other words, once PM and the other large TF EP groups in Haderus move out, there is no reason for the AD ones to stay either. Guilds like this are OP on Had because there's much less resistance than you would see on TF and it's unbelievably easy to do things like... cap every single keep with a single guild. lol.

    Yeah I'm not buying this. DC won the last campaign. Sounds like ya'll are leaving cuz you got beat down.

    In Haddy? EP has won the last three camapigns in haddy uncontested. DC was only beating AD due to a insane several day low pop bonus.

    Then I'm being given false info? I was told DC won the last campaign.

    I'm 90% certain EP got first but I spent a lot of time in the last haddy campaign in TF so I could be wrong.
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • vamp_emily
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    dashima wrote: »
    Can you take your BWB salt to the BWB thread please.
    I won't have you slandering good zoola's name here with some other campaign qq lol. The people in Trueflame/Had try their best to balance things where they can and point out when they think a certain faction needs support, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Can you please ignore a question that was not even for you?

    My question is not salty as your reply.. just ignore me and keep your salt in your pocket.


    If you want a friend, get a dog.
    AW Rank: Grand Warlord 1 ( level 49)

  • God_flakes
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    NACtron wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Okay so here's the issue with this. Fantasia, CoH and Hagnado ran raids the past few weeks in Haderus.
    During primetime while guilds were on, AD easily took back the whole map, most keeps would turn yellow or mostly yellow, we'd get emperorship, etc. Unless Nikolai was online with a sizable group, there were really few satisfying fights. Even while EP was poplocked, few truly large EP groups were to be seen??? It was just a lot of bad pugs and it was really weird lol.

    And then after primetime, the map would go red all the way back to the scroll temples, and the process would repeat. In my opinion, after playing in Had for a good 2-3 weeks, Had does not need multiple organized groups and/or large raid groups.

    In other words, once PM and the other large TF EP groups in Haderus move out, there is no reason for the AD ones to stay either. Guilds like this are OP on Had because there's much less resistance than you would see on TF and it's unbelievably easy to do things like... cap every single keep with a single guild. lol.

    Yeah I'm not buying this. DC won the last campaign. Sounds like ya'll are leaving cuz you got beat down.

    In Haddy? EP has won the last three camapigns in haddy uncontested. DC was only beating AD due to a insane several day low pop bonus.

    Then I'm being given false info? I was told DC won the last campaign.

    I'm 90% certain EP got first but I spent a lot of time in the last haddy campaign in TF so I could be wrong.

    I'm being told DC is consistently winning there. So you are all leaving cuz you can't get your winz with insane numbers so the plan is for ad and Ep to re-slam TF with your stupid insane numbers and win with zerging again. As if TF isn't zergville already. Fabulous. Just fabulous.
    Edited by God_flakes on September 14, 2016 4:40PM
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    @God_flakes just want to say this is some quality psy-ops you got going here :smile:

    Guys... Guys! What do I do? They've got me all confused - I can't take it!

    Should I stay on Haderus? Should I help on Trueflame?

    I don't know.... I'm not sure... brain is ... failing.

    At this point I think the most strategic thing for AD to do is Zerg BWB but only to make sure the banks of the water near the Allessia bridge are free of mud crabs. Our lowbies will level so much faster and help the war effort if they don't get pinched so much by crustaceans! I will be the point of the spear! I will save all AD from certain mud crabstruction!

    Aaaahhh!!!
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • dashima
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    dashima wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Skyy wrote: »
    ataggs wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Is Haderus balanced? I haven't been so I don't know.

    It certainly doesn't have a plethora of ad there. So your call for more on TF will undoubtedly bleed more from that campaign. I can't speak to Azura's as I never go there. Perhaps someone else's can comment on that campaign. But I disagree with you that TF doesn't have enough Ad bodies. They might not be organized but asking for more ad to flood the server and win only by flooding the server will not encourage those ad to get organized and get better.

    I agree flooding the server does no good, but those that left for Haderus were organized guild groups. We need that influence on TF. We have started organizing but it is hard to compete with DC and EP groups s that have played together for a long period of time.

    How many AD guilds are there currently on TF?

    At the moment Dominion Knights and RAM (if they're still running regularly?) and idk if there are any other regular guilds running much anymore.

    Venatus is on hiatus, Arcane retired, but Fantasia and Hag should be returning from Haderus soon.
    When Venatus goes back into action next update, we should have a good 4-5 guilds on AD TF.

    Why, though? Why are Fantasia and Hag abandoning Haderus?

    I'm not gonna speak for either guild but the general gist of it is:
    There was nothing for us there. The fights are boring/not enough action/not enough zergs to farm/oh god its telel/i miss trueflame ap.

    Something like that. :)

    I know the DC guilds on Haderus and know them well. Many have gotten emp in the last two weeks. They don't seem to be having a problem finding fights and making ap and getting legendary rewards at the end of the 7 days.

    1) Those DC nightcapped empship (literally waited until AD guilds logged off because they failed the first time).

    2) AD only came in last place because of DC's low pop bonus. And because of the EP that PvDoored every single keep while no one was online.

    3) You barely need 200k ap to get a legendary reward in Haderus. I got gold rewards for just breathing.
    Edited by dashima on September 14, 2016 4:45PM
    Venatus | Hagnado

    AD | Revân Stamina Nightblade AR35 scrub
    AD | Rëvan Stamina Sorcerer fotm
    DC | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    tfw too lazy to grind
    AD | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    AD | Run I Triggered Them Magicka Templar
    DC | Inner Postern Wall Stamina Templar
    DC | Kaivalanth Magicka Nightblade
    DC | Rëvân Stamina Nightblade
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    I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content. :expressionless:
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    AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.
    They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

    Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

    They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

    Ssshh Skyy, truth is irrelevant! They're losing because the other faction's players are lazy! :lol:

    *Typical AD mentality: can't win on a balanced server, can't handle not winning, so come on guize lets slam the server with hundreds more players! Surely we can get our winz then!!!*

    AD, generally, I have better fights with. Some may melt but a bigger margin of them have their build sorted out.

    EP on the otherhand, sends full raids to glade/ales and is still in second place. Save for a couple of hard hitters and their fellow brethren, the ratio of manpower superiority is 1:4.

    DC's weakness is breaches. We really can't learn how to enter them as soloist pugs lol.

    I agree and I'm really not sure what she's expecting. Is she expecting Haderus Ad to abandon that campaign (causing imbalance there) to come to TF and cause imbalance there? :confused:

    Is Haderus balanced? I haven't been so I don't know.

    It certainly doesn't have a plethora of ad there. So your call for more on TF will undoubtedly bleed more from that campaign. I can't speak to Azura's as I never go there. Perhaps someone else's can comment on that campaign. But I disagree with you that TF doesn't have enough Ad bodies. They might not be organized but asking for more ad to flood the server and win only by flooding the server will not encourage those ad to get organized and get better.

    I agree flooding the server does no good, but those that left for Haderus were organized guild groups. We need that influence on TF. We have started organizing but it is hard to compete with DC and EP groups s that have played together for a long period of time.

    How many AD guilds are there currently on TF?

    At the moment Dominion Knights and RAM (if they're still running regularly?) and idk if there are any other regular guilds running much anymore.

    Venatus is on hiatus, Arcane retired, but Fantasia and Hag should be returning from Haderus soon.
    When Venatus goes back into action next update, we should have a good 4-5 guilds on AD TF.

    Why, though? Why are Fantasia and Hag abandoning Haderus?

    I'm not gonna speak for either guild but the general gist of it is:
    There was nothing for us there. The fights are boring/not enough action/not enough zergs to farm/oh god its telel/i miss trueflame ap.

    Something like that. :)

    I know the DC guilds on Haderus and know them well. Many have gotten emp in the last two weeks. They don't seem to be having a problem finding fights and making ap and getting legendary rewards at the end of the 7 days.

    1) Those DC nightcapped empship (literally waited until AD guilds logged off because they failed the first time).

    2) AD only came in last place because of DC's low pop bonus. And because of the EP that PvDoored every single keep while no one was online.

    3) You barely need 200k ap to get a legendary reward in Haderus. I got gold rewards for just breathing.

    Ummmmm LoM does NOT nightcap and wait for AD to log!!! Such lies from you! They're on primetime because I am in their guild and see the battle calls go out from about 5pm to midnight!


    And what's this scuttlebut I am hearing about some "data mine exploit"? Looks like I need to go undercover again @rfennell_ESO.
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