Calling all AD back to TF

ataggs

We sure are trying to hold our own in TF, but we are way out gunned. It looks like only the AD guilds didn't return from Had while all the DC and EP guilds returned in full force. We could have stacked every AD guild running and still wouldn't have had enough to not get steamrolled. We couldn't take Nikel, we couldn't take Sej, we couldn't hold resources...... everywhere we went we were met with double our numbers. Is there an ETA for a return of any AD from Had or any groups in Azura who are thinking of swapping campaigns...pretty please?

Edit: crappy spelling

Daggerfall_Bones

Hhhhhhhooooooowwwwwwwllllllllolololol.

Rohamad_Ali

I've been grinding for my legendary mats after hitting 160 . I'm a quarter the way done but it takes a lot of money to be doing this . That way I'll be more effective when I returned .

DHale

Coming back.... to a theater near you.... Fantasia.

TheDarkRuler

AD outnumbered on TrueFlame?
U kidding right?

God_flakes

AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.

Eirella

Is this a joke?

susmitds

AD didn't poplock in peak times, when both EP and DC were poplocked and half of the people is busy farming IC, somebody needs to let them know that the IC event is over.

ataggs

God_flakes wrote: »

AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.

They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

Daggerfall_Bones

There were lots there but really in disarray lately. We finally pulled off and and wiped some EP. I think EP even had a plant in our group tonight and we wiped the floor with them at bleaks. AD wasn't on point tonight but EP was flat horrible at Bleaks around 9:45pm. Only decent groups I've seen lately is Haxus and Invictus.

Pchela

Same in EP, especially during NA daytime is lack of organization on Ad and EP that is setting up bad maps for prime time. Today DC owned 4/6 emp keeps and most of EP and AD bridged it up for a good part of the day. Going to probably start running PUGS again to try and organize the herd and funnel them elsewhere. I myself am guilty of bridge time but being plowed down while trying to take bleakers or chal with a few is frustrating and when in Rome ...

Did learn that AD had a rough time with roe tonight due to DC camping it as well. It's same boat for us so i understand.

I do hope that the change to Porting out of outposts enables some different map play than the bee line to the next keep or resource on the compass.

Keep the chi and good fights up.

Rohamad_Ali

ataggs wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.

They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

Skyy

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.

They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

They are behind in score because of stupid play, not because of being outnumbered.

ataggs

Pchela wrote: »

Same in EP, especially during NA daytime is lack of organization on Ad and EP that is setting up bad maps for prime time. Today DC owned 4/6 emp keeps and most of EP and AD bridged it up for a good part of the day. Going to probably start running PUGS again to try and organize the herd and funnel them elsewhere. I myself am guilty of bridge time but being plowed down while trying to take bleakers or chal with a few is frustrating and when in Rome ...

Did learn that AD had a rough time with roe tonight due to DC camping it as well. It's same boat for us so i understand.

I do hope that the change to Porting out of outposts enables some different map play than the bee line to the next keep or resource on the compass.

Keep the chi and good fights up.

Thanks! I have such a great team, we were probably at 16 tonight. I think they are all amazing for hanging in there when we had so little success. And honestly, just hanging out at the bridge rather than pushing objectives came up a couple of times in my group tonight. I don't mind an uphill battle but this was really rough.

Daggerfall_Bones

Other than tonight AD seems to have responded well to home keep takes. They just didn't have the numbers they usually do.

Lucky28

Pchela wrote: »

Same in EP, especially during NA daytime is lack of organization on Ad and EP that is setting up bad maps for prime time. Today DC owned 4/6 emp keeps and most of EP and AD bridged it up for a good part of the day. Going to probably start running PUGS again to try and organize the herd and funnel them elsewhere. I myself am guilty of bridge time but being plowed down while trying to take bleakers or chal with a few is frustrating and when in Rome ...

Did learn that AD had a rough time with roe tonight due to DC camping it as well. It's same boat for us so i understand.

I do hope that the change to Porting out of outposts enables some different map play than the bee line to the next keep or resource on the compass.

Keep the chi and good fights up.

Yeah well. i think the majority of EP just want to PvP. they don't want to siege. though i do try and help out; just "fine Varen/Mala i'll leave the bridge "

Seriously tho. i don't care much for sieging when i'm not in a group.

Satiar

I'll be on AD Friday to help, Zoola!

Celas_Dranacea

Oh man, I'm sorry guys. COH has been trying to be good sports and do our best to keep the situation together on Haderus.

This past Monday, leaders voted to continue through this new campaign on Haderus. However, many of our guildies are feeling for our brothers and sisters on Trueflame. Some of us have been fighting over there from time to time. We will continue to discuss where we can be of most help to the war effort overall, and have been considering when a move back might be warranted.

Until then... godspeed! Fight your hardest AD. Remember - watch for the rising sun in the East, when the hour grows darkest.

Telel

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.

They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

This one had much to distract them over the last week and so the matter of leaving Haderus did not come up until 9 hours before the campaign ended.

As such the majority that Telel bothers to listen to agreed it was best for us to remain just a bit longer to see if the server balances enough that all three factions stand a chance now.

However it is likely we will return to trueflame near the end of its current cycle. The more consistent fighting throughtout the day suits our irregurlar band well.

We're just not cut out to be the largest offensive force for the entire faction, and sadly Telel just does not have the time to dedicate to giving a seven day campaign the attention it needs.

Recremen

Your call for succor shall be answered. Take shelter in the bosom of The AD Guilds. We have not abandoned you, we just didn't want to kill the one competitive campaign by winning it 4 times in a row.

fastolfv_ESO

the numbers are fine the organization is not. while ad still hits ash every chance they get they just dont got that unf behind em, with the exception of 2 nights ago when literally 100 ad sat in the mine for over an hour (very odd strat). Right now as DC we usually seem to hit roe or brindle then go eh F ad this is boring and go duke it out with ep some more, while i see a few ad guilds it reminds me more of dc with just a few guilds running during primetime with more pugs then anything else

heystreethawk

DHale wrote: »

Coming back.... to a theater near you.... Fantasia.

\m/

Hale with the blood pumping trailer! Haderus was fun for the GvG style fights in the first week, and there were some sporadic but phenomenal battles toward the end of our tenure, down to the very last night-- plus it felt like AD was overpowered on Trueflame when we left, and I maintain it was the right thing to do for long-term balance-- but we're happy to be coming back, and we'll have our first return raid night Wednesday evening. We look forward to coordinating with Zoola's crew, DK, and the other AD on Trueflame! And of course, we look forward to the fights.

Telel wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.

They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

We're just not cut out to be the largest offensive force for the entire faction, and sadly Telel just does not have the time to dedicate to giving a seven day campaign the attention it needs.

It would take a hundred Telels, Telel. We had a great time coordinating with CoH on Had, and I even got a chance to join a CoH group Dran was running last week, which was terrific. It's a shame there isn't more oceanic/daytime NA presence from AD or DC on Haderus, because the contingent of reds who flip the entirety of the map against no opposition on a daily basis leave the rest of the playerbase with a sisyphean amount of campaign maintenance that is impossible to justify, to say nothing of their eerily familiar perpetual emp.

To their credit, I assume PM left for this reason too.

Recremen wrote: »

Your call for succor shall be answered. Take shelter in the bosom of The AD Guilds. We have not abandoned you, we just didn't want to kill the one competitive campaign by winning it 4 times in a row.

If in-game PvP worked like the PvP forums, we wouldn't see these radical shifts: Men'Do has won so many threads in a row, but the boards remain competitive.

Telel

Recremen wrote: »

Your call for succor shall be answered. Take shelter in the bosom of The AD Guilds. We have not abandoned you, we just didn't want to kill the one competitive campaign by winning it 4 times in a row.

This. Instead of going where it was safe and easy we chose the route of humility and dispersed to find harder battles which helped hone some of our skills. Telel is still terrible, but others did indeed get quite the honing.

maxjapank

Meanwhile...Oceanic players are trying to find fights wherever they may be. Nice fun 3-way fights at the bridge between *** and Ales.

Lol. It won't let me write the nickname of Sejanus. Or maybe it did.

NACtron

Daggerfall_Bones wrote: »

There were lots there but really in disarray lately. We finally pulled off and and wiped some EP. I think EP even had a plant in our group tonight and we wiped the floor with them at bleaks. AD wasn't on point tonight but EP was flat horrible at Bleaks around 9:45pm. Only decent groups I've seen lately is Haxus and Invictus.

Funny the amount of werewolf pelts my guild took home as trophies tonight told me differently. That being said Daggerfall Pride's werewolf heavy meta has thrown us off more than a couple times in the past week. It's an intimidating sight to see and a fun force to fight

NACtron

heystreethawk wrote: »

DHale wrote: »

Coming back.... to a theater near you.... Fantasia.

\m/

Hale with the blood pumping trailer! Haderus was fun for the GvG style fights in the first week, and there were some sporadic but phenomenal battles toward the end of our tenure, down to the very last night-- plus it felt like AD was overpowered on Trueflame when we left, and I maintain it was the right thing to do for long-term balance-- but we're happy to be coming back, and we'll have our first return raid night Wednesday evening. We look forward to coordinating with Zoola's crew, DK, and the other AD on Trueflame! And of course, we look forward to the fights.

Telel wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.

They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

We're just not cut out to be the largest offensive force for the entire faction, and sadly Telel just does not have the time to dedicate to giving a seven day campaign the attention it needs.

It would take a hundred Telels, Telel. We had a great time coordinating with CoH on Had, and I even got a chance to join a CoH group Dran was running last week, which was terrific. It's a shame there isn't more oceanic/daytime NA presence from AD or DC on Haderus, because the contingent of reds who flip the entirety of the map against no opposition on a daily basis leave the rest of the playerbase with a sisyphean amount of campaign maintenance that is impossible to justify, to say nothing of their eerily familiar perpetual emp.

To their credit, I assume PM left for this reason too.

Recremen wrote: »

Your call for succor shall be answered. Take shelter in the bosom of The AD Guilds. We have not abandoned you, we just didn't want to kill the one competitive campaign by winning it 4 times in a row.

If in-game PvP worked like the PvP forums, we wouldn't see these radical shifts: Men'Do has won so many threads in a row, but the boards remain competitive.

Still have no idea who the EP were that were early morning caping. Maybe it's just like 5 EP who happen to be the only players online in Haderus across all factions. They must get a strange sense of satisfaction out of PvDoor. Who knows.

IxSTALKERxI

Venatus hasn't run a group this campaign which probably hasn't helped either.

Celas_Dranacea

Recremen wrote: »

Your call for succor shall be answered. Take shelter in the bosom of The AD Guilds. We have not abandoned you, we just didn't want to kill the one competitive campaign by winning it 4 times in a row.

My biggest reason for having felt comfortable leaving Trueflame at the start of this campaign - Lord Hircine demands a sporting hunt.

heystreethawk wrote: »

DHale wrote: »

Coming back.... to a theater near you.... Fantasia.

\m/

Haderus was fun for the GvG style fights in the first week, and there were some sporadic but phenomenal battles toward the end of our tenure, down to the very last night-- plus it felt like AD was overpowered on Trueflame when we left, and I maintain it was the right thing to do for long-term balance-- but we're happy to be coming back, and we'll have our first return raid night Wednesday evening. We look forward to coordinating with Zoola's crew, DK, and the other AD on Trueflame!

Telel wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

AD numbers are fine on TF. L2p.

They are fine if you are a lazy player on a different faction who prefers easy mode to fair fights...or do you just emote?

Do not bother with the opinions of other factions . AD needs help on TF is true . I see the score . May @Telel and COH could put some effort back there . Looks like Fantasia is going to . Not a lot of time left to get score up though . Maybe second place if a couple guilds rally back .

We're just not cut out to be the largest offensive force for the entire faction, and sadly Telel just does not have the time to dedicate to giving a seven day campaign the attention it needs.

It would take a hundred Telels, Telel. We had a great time coordinating with CoH on Had, and I even got a chance to join a CoH group Dran was running last week, which was terrific. It's a shame there isn't more oceanic/daytime NA presence from AD or DC on Haderus, because the contingent of reds who flip the entirety of the map against no opposition on a daily basis leave the rest of the playerbase with a sisyphean amount of campaign maintenance that is impossible to justify, to say nothing of their eerily familiar perpetual emp.

To their credit, I assume PM left for this reason too.

Recremen wrote: »

Your call for succor shall be answered. Take shelter in the bosom of The AD Guilds. We have not abandoned you, we just didn't want to kill the one competitive campaign by winning it 4 times in a row.

If in-game PvP worked like the PvP forums, we wouldn't see these radical shifts: Men'Do has won so many threads in a row, but the boards remain competitive.

I also had a great time coordinating COH with my guildies in Fantasia - Josh your leadership and the F2K crack team that worked with COH during that bridge fight was especially fun - everyone from COH who was there appreciated it greatly.

Yea, what @Telel said - we have our moments as a large group, but generally COH folks can be a solid auxillary force helping with certain objectives for a good part of the day.

TooskSG

Oh? I thought AD was in last due to stunning strategic moves like leaving Roe blue for at least 10 hours yesterday. If I mentioned that AD had the pop advantage a few of those hours, then I'd be further embarrassed for AD. Wait, I just mentioned it, shoot.

Nermy

EU or NA?

Ernest145

ataggs wrote: »

We sure are trying to hold our own in TF, but we are way out gunned. It looks like only the AD guilds didn't return from Had while all the DC and EP guilds returned in full force. We could have stacked every AD guild running and still wouldn't have had enough to not get steamrolled. We couldn't take Nikel, we couldn't take Sej, we couldn't hold resources...... everywhere we went we were met with double our numbers. Is there an ETA for a return of any AD from Had or any groups in Azura who are thinking of swapping campaigns...pretty please?

Invictus hasn't ran a group in 2 weeks, we are taking a break from competitive pvp. EP isn't guild heavy at all, a lot of it is just pugs. AD mostly just makes bad decisions and lets DC hold their home keeps for too long and fights EP. DC has been also stacking all their guilds with the faction so makes taking a keep from them near impossible without any guilds to help. That's why dc always has chal and roe since ep/ad have been low on guilds during prime time. DC also has the strongest oceanic presence too so just makes it worse for us.