Calling all AD back to TF

Minnesinger

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

SO DC isn´t dominating Hade anymore. Sounds like mission accomplished. If I remember right you were against the movement of guilds from other campaigns to Hade. Here you insisting on them staying in Hade. Sow which is it? I don´t truly get what part you have where AD /EP guilds play as you aren´t even playing in any of the guilds nor even either faction.

Ghostbane

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

Well, our ventures had been after the main bulk of this thread you linked, also after most of Skyrim moved to Had.

Having a nosey in that thread, I randomly picked page 7, and one of your first posts in that page was this,

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3301547/#Comment_3301547

God_flakes wrote: »

I really do not understand all the claims of Haderus being a blue server. I am still smfh about that. I don't go in there often but any time I did it definitely did not look or feel one sided. Last week the map was totally red. Even DC gate keeps.

I can't comment on who whinged and whinned about who, what or where. Only from what I've experienced. I guess from the times we've been in there, it was in the middle of an EP dominate session. To me, based on the times I've actually been in Had, DC have not been the driving force of the server since the round the clock Nord continent moved over.

I'd also like to point out I don't know where we are going with this.

God_flakes

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

SO DC isn´t dominating Hade anymore. Sounds like mission accomplished. If I remember right you were against the movement of guilds from other campaigns to Hade. Here you insisting on them staying in Hade. Sow which is it? I don´t truly get what part you have where AD /EP guilds play as you aren´t even playing in any of the guilds nor even either faction.

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

God_flakes

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

Well, our ventures had been after the main bulk of this thread you linked, also after most of Skyrim moved to Had.

Having a nosey in that thread, I randomly picked page 7, and one of your first posts in that page was this,

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3301547/#Comment_3301547

God_flakes wrote: »

I really do not understand all the claims of Haderus being a blue server. I am still smfh about that. I don't go in there often but any time I did it definitely did not look or feel one sided. Last week the map was totally red. Even DC gate keeps.

I can't comment on who whinged and whinned about who, what or where. Only from what I've experienced. I guess from the times we've been in there, it was in the middle of an EP dominate session. To me, based on the times I've actually been in Had, DC have not been the driving force of the server since the round the clock Nord continent moved over.

I'd also like to point out I don't know where we are going with this.

So @Rickter was in fact lying? He asked for more Ep and ad to come to a server where DC was already suppressed?

DODHitman

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

Easy.....it was made exactly a month ago, a lot has changed in 30 days....especially in a 7 day campaign. [Snip]

[Edit to remove bait.]

God_flakes

DODHitman wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

Easy.....it was made exactly a month ago, a lot has changed in 30 days....especially in a 7 day campaign. [Snip]

[Edit to remove bait.]

Is the ad hominem really necessary?

Ghostbane

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

Well, our ventures had been after the main bulk of this thread you linked, also after most of Skyrim moved to Had.

Having a nosey in that thread, I randomly picked page 7, and one of your first posts in that page was this,

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3301547/#Comment_3301547

God_flakes wrote: »

I really do not understand all the claims of Haderus being a blue server. I am still smfh about that. I don't go in there often but any time I did it definitely did not look or feel one sided. Last week the map was totally red. Even DC gate keeps.

I can't comment on who whinged and whinned about who, what or where. Only from what I've experienced. I guess from the times we've been in there, it was in the middle of an EP dominate session. To me, based on the times I've actually been in Had, DC have not been the driving force of the server since the round the clock Nord continent moved over.

I'd also like to point out I don't know where we are going with this.

So @Rickter was in fact lying? He asked for more Ep and ad to come to a server where DC was already suppressed?

Alright, this is like eating batteries.

How do you partake in a discussion when you don't even digest the responses given to you?

We went to Had well after that thread was in its many pages, not to mention after the EP guilds moved there and got their furniture unpacked.

I directly quoted a post by you, saying Had was red for an entire week. Two of our visits may have been that week.

Dunno who Rickter is, or what he stands for, or what his last retweet was. I don't care about the Haderus population forecast.

You talked muck about my guild, I presented our findings. Not that you've read them.

Good day.

Lucky28

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

SO DC isn´t dominating Hade anymore. Sounds like mission accomplished. If I remember right you were against the movement of guilds from other campaigns to Hade. Here you insisting on them staying in Hade. Sow which is it? I don´t truly get what part you have where AD /EP guilds play as you aren´t even playing in any of the guilds nor even either faction.

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

Dc was dominating Had a while back. those DC however, moved to TF and Azura. i mean just looking at the populations that's pretty clear.

Minnesinger

God_flakes wrote: »

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

NACtron wrote: »

Your source is flawed. EP certainly won at least the two out of three of the last campaigns. I am pretty sure we won the last one too. There was a lot of EP night capping going on though so when primetime came around we did not even worry about map Control. Instead we pretty much stayed south going Fantasia or Hagnado hunting around the Sej Drake area. Being on TF is interesting change of pace as we find ourselves mostly fighting up north now.

@God_flakes I don´t know if this makes it clearer. EP has been winning for some time.

God_flakes

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

Well, our ventures had been after the main bulk of this thread you linked, also after most of Skyrim moved to Had.

Having a nosey in that thread, I randomly picked page 7, and one of your first posts in that page was this,

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3301547/#Comment_3301547

God_flakes wrote: »

I really do not understand all the claims of Haderus being a blue server. I am still smfh about that. I don't go in there often but any time I did it definitely did not look or feel one sided. Last week the map was totally red. Even DC gate keeps.

I can't comment on who whinged and whinned about who, what or where. Only from what I've experienced. I guess from the times we've been in there, it was in the middle of an EP dominate session. To me, based on the times I've actually been in Had, DC have not been the driving force of the server since the round the clock Nord continent moved over.

I'd also like to point out I don't know where we are going with this.

So @Rickter was in fact lying? He asked for more Ep and ad to come to a server where DC was already suppressed?

Alright, this is like eating batteries.

How do you partake in a discussion when you don't even digest the responses given to you?

We went to Had well after that thread was in its many pages, not to mention after the EP guilds moved there and got their furniture unpacked.

I directly quoted a post by you, saying Had was red for an entire week. Two of our visits may have been that week.

Dunno who Rickter is, or what he stands for, or what his last retweet was. I don't care about the Haderus population forecast.

You talked muck about my guild, I presented our findings. Not that you've read them.

Good day.

Ok so now the claim is DC used to dominate Haderus vie small man. Rickter requested ad and Ep come liven up the campaign. You all showed up with your 100+ combined Zerg and now you're all bored?

My original statement still stands. Keep your bored butts there. TF is FINE.

God_flakes

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

NACtron wrote: »

Your source is flawed. EP certainly won at least the two out of three of the last campaigns. I am pretty sure we won the last one too. There was a lot of EP night capping going on though so when primetime came around we did not even worry about map Control. Instead we pretty much stayed south going Fantasia or Hagnado hunting around the Sej Drake area. Being on TF is interesting change of pace as we find ourselves mostly fighting up north now.

@God_flakes I don´t know if this makes it clearer. EP has been winning for some time.

Yes because Ep zerged the server down and nobody wants to deal with them. They need to lay in they bed the made. Sorry.

God_flakes

Lucky28 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

SO DC isn´t dominating Hade anymore. Sounds like mission accomplished. If I remember right you were against the movement of guilds from other campaigns to Hade. Here you insisting on them staying in Hade. Sow which is it? I don´t truly get what part you have where AD /EP guilds play as you aren´t even playing in any of the guilds nor even either faction.

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

Dc was dominating Had a while back. those DC however, moved to TF and Azura. i mean just looking at the populations that's pretty clear.

So Haderus is devoid of competitive DC now? Maybe the call should be for more DC to come to Haderus rather than more Ep and ad to come to an already somewhat crowded TF. Just food for thought.

Minnesinger

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

NACtron wrote: »

Your source is flawed. EP certainly won at least the two out of three of the last campaigns. I am pretty sure we won the last one too. There was a lot of EP night capping going on though so when primetime came around we did not even worry about map Control. Instead we pretty much stayed south going Fantasia or Hagnado hunting around the Sej Drake area. Being on TF is interesting change of pace as we find ourselves mostly fighting up north now.

@God_flakes I don´t know if this makes it clearer. EP has been winning for some time.

Yes because Ep zerged the server down and nobody wants to deal with them. They need to lay in the bed the made. Sorry.

At least, for now, you seem to have gotten the facts right. Toast! No need to say sorry.

Lucky28

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

I also want to add that Haderus has been a small man's server for a long time. It's kinda been an unspoken thing there. It is so dang amusing that the zergiest guilds PM and Fantasia and Hagnado can't seem to compete there even with their insane numbers and Zerg mentality so they are deciding to bring their cookies back to TF where they can all happily Zerg to their heart's content.

Haderus has not been a small scale server in years.

Hag on a typical night has on average between 10 to 14 players (less than 90% of the groups that have ran in Haderus past few months)

On the 3 to 4 occasions Hag have actually been in Haderus, the prime focus has been against EP, as they at the time were the dominating presence on the map. DC being next to non existent. So the statement of our insane numbers and being able to compete is certainly a confusing one, even more so when you've actually included @NACtron and the lads in the same statement.

We should offer you a full time spot in guild, you seem to know more of our whereabouts and destinations than half of the team!

I guess memories are short. It was only a few short weeks ago @Rickter was asking for more non-DC to come to Haderus because the claim was it was infested with DC. Now you're telling me every time you've been there (all of 3 or 4 times) DC were nowhere to be found?

Correct, the majority of the map was red. With whatever representation of DC not being past Glade/Aleswell. Not that we went to check either, DC would have been on 2 bars or so, whilst EP would have been poplocked.

It maybe down to our raid nights being midweek too. The weekend maybe a different matter entirely, but you'll not have found a dedicated Hag group there.

I edited/added to my post after you responded. Please address the Rickter thread and all the whining by ad and Ep that DC was out of control on Haderus and needed to be put down.

Well, our ventures had been after the main bulk of this thread you linked, also after most of Skyrim moved to Had.

Having a nosey in that thread, I randomly picked page 7, and one of your first posts in that page was this,

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3301547/#Comment_3301547

God_flakes wrote: »

I really do not understand all the claims of Haderus being a blue server. I am still smfh about that. I don't go in there often but any time I did it definitely did not look or feel one sided. Last week the map was totally red. Even DC gate keeps.

I can't comment on who whinged and whinned about who, what or where. Only from what I've experienced. I guess from the times we've been in there, it was in the middle of an EP dominate session. To me, based on the times I've actually been in Had, DC have not been the driving force of the server since the round the clock Nord continent moved over.

I'd also like to point out I don't know where we are going with this.

So @Rickter was in fact lying? He asked for more Ep and ad to come to a server where DC was already suppressed?

Alright, this is like eating batteries.

How do you partake in a discussion when you don't even digest the responses given to you?

We went to Had well after that thread was in its many pages, not to mention after the EP guilds moved there and got their furniture unpacked.

I directly quoted a post by you, saying Had was red for an entire week. Two of our visits may have been that week.

Dunno who Rickter is, or what he stands for, or what his last retweet was. I don't care about the Haderus population forecast.

You talked muck about my guild, I presented our findings. Not that you've read them.

Good day.

Ok so now the claim is DC used to dominate Haderus vie small man. Rickter requested ad and Ep come liven up the campaign. You all showed up with your 100+ combined Zerg and now you're all bored?

My original statement still stands. Keep your bored butts there. TF is FINE.

Had is a mess. it's a cycle of each faction taking turns to zerg the crap out of it. first AD then DC now currently EP. and the cycle will repeat... probably.

at any rate. TF isn't really balanced. but whatever.

@God_flakes i don't think anyone ever said anything about more EP needing to come to TF.. we're rather happy with our population all in all. just DC needs to lay off with the night crew. but other than.

Crispen_Longbow

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

I don't see the problems as numbers for AD, but more a crisis of organization and leadership. When the guilds when to fight on Haderus, it left a lot of inexperienced AD players behind. Nobody groups, well very few people group now. Last campaign I could find a group to run with and be useful in every night, this campaign however I've just about stopped trying to be in a group. With no direction people end up either grinding at Alissia Bridge or the route between Nikel and Ash. And once in awhile a small group get wiped trying to take some keep or resource with no other support.

DODHitman

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

This 100% and thanks for writing this up Crispen Maybe this will clear things up, but I highly doubt it.....lol

Meilinka

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I've been grinding for my legendary mats after hitting 160 . I'm a quarter the way done but it takes a lot of money to be doing this . That way I'll be more effective when I returned .

Send me a PM or mail I will treat you to some mats.

Ghostbane

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Holy crap, thoughtful comprehension.

God_flakes

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

God_flakes

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

NACtron wrote: »

Your source is flawed. EP certainly won at least the two out of three of the last campaigns. I am pretty sure we won the last one too. There was a lot of EP night capping going on though so when primetime came around we did not even worry about map Control. Instead we pretty much stayed south going Fantasia or Hagnado hunting around the Sej Drake area. Being on TF is interesting change of pace as we find ourselves mostly fighting up north now.

@God_flakes I don´t know if this makes it clearer. EP has been winning for some time.

Yes because Ep zerged the server down and nobody wants to deal with them. They need to lay in the bed the made. Sorry.

At least, for now, you seem to have gotten the facts right. Toast! No need to say sorry.

Maybe I don't really need another toast!

zyk

ZOS should setup a campaign exclusively for Pact Militia and guilds who enjoy farming Pact Militia. The result would be better PVP for everyone!

Minno

zyk wrote: »

ZOS should setup a campaign exclusively for Pact Militia and guilds who enjoy farming Pact Militia. The result would be better PVP for everyone!

They are, is called battlegrounds.

Celas_Dranacea

dashima wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

@Dashima I like your list. Let me flesh it out a bit more if you don't mind. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

DC TF
Blood of Daggerfall (12-24)
Iron Legion (12-24+)
Pug Guild (12-24+)
The Kelly Gang (8-16)
Wormhole (24+ lol)
Requiem (12-24)
The K-Hole (8-16)
Daggerfall Pride (12-24)
etc (other nonregular, small groups like Elder Skills)

DC Haderus:
Legion of Mordor: 8-16

AD TF
Dominion Knights (12-24)
Fantasia (12-24, now returning from Haderus)
RAM (12-24, idk if they're still running)

AD Haderus
Hagnado (8-16)
Children of Hircine (8-24)

EP TF
Pact Miliita (16-24+, now returning from Haderus)
Blood for the Pact (12-16)
Haxus (8-16)
LFG (12-16)
Raven and the Rose (8-16)(now returning from Haderus)
Phoenix Rising (12-24)
Cat Six (2-6)
SOTP (4-16)

EP Haderus:
Darkest Requiem (8-16)(just moved away from TF)
There is a couple others but unknown size and activity

Lol and here I thought EP was smallscale for once!!!!
Hagnado is mostly TF though and should be moved back into the TF list.

Also don't forget Dominion Imperial Guard (DIG) which I think is homed on Had - don't know the size of their groups but assume something like 8-20

I love the idea of this list. It would be great for someone to start a thread "NA PC Guilds and their Servers" or something like that and maintain a list. First comment can be edited regularly by somebody with the time and comments can just be for guild officers to provide updates when things change

DODHitman

God_flakes wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

My hostility comes from your constant lack of reading comprehension....you were told by the guilds what was going on. But you consistently kept arguing the facts with here say. You were also provided with 2 full lists of who is where but yet STILL didnt want to realize that we (the guilds in mention) are seriously trying to help the servers and not trying to break them. So when somebody proclaims we shouldnt be somewhere on false info.....I tend to get a little agitated.

Minno

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

@Dashima I like your list. Let me flesh it out a bit more if you don't mind. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

DC TF
Blood of Daggerfall (12-24)
Iron Legion (12-24+)
Pug Guild (12-24+)
The Kelly Gang (8-16)
Wormhole (24+ lol)
Requiem (12-24)
The K-Hole (8-16)
Daggerfall Pride (12-24)
etc (other nonregular, small groups like Elder Skills)

DC Haderus:
Legion of Mordor: 8-16

AD TF
Dominion Knights (12-24)
Fantasia (12-24, now returning from Haderus)
RAM (12-24, idk if they're still running)

AD Haderus
Hagnado (8-16)
Children of Hircine (8-24)

EP TF
Pact Miliita (16-24+, now returning from Haderus)
Blood for the Pact (12-16)
Haxus (8-16)
LFG (12-16)
Raven and the Rose (8-16)(now returning from Haderus)
Phoenix Rising (12-24)
Cat Six (2-6)
SOTP (4-16)

EP Haderus:
Darkest Requiem (8-16)(just moved away from TF)
There is a couple others but unknown size and activity

Lol and here I thought EP was smallscale for once!!!!
Hagnado is mostly TF though and should be moved back into the TF list.

Also don't forget Dominion Imperial Guard (DIG) which I think is homed on Had - don't know the size of their groups but assume something like 8-20

I love the idea of this list. It would be great for someone to start a thread "NA PC Guilds and their Servers" or something like that and maintain a list. First comment can be edited regularly by somebody with the time and comments can just be for guild officers to provide updates when things change

Crispen started a thread like this.

God_flakes

Minno wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

@Dashima I like your list. Let me flesh it out a bit more if you don't mind. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

DC TF
Blood of Daggerfall (12-24)
Iron Legion (12-24+)
Pug Guild (12-24+)
The Kelly Gang (8-16)
Wormhole (24+ lol)
Requiem (12-24)
The K-Hole (8-16)
Daggerfall Pride (12-24)
etc (other nonregular, small groups like Elder Skills)

DC Haderus:
Legion of Mordor: 8-16

AD TF
Dominion Knights (12-24)
Fantasia (12-24, now returning from Haderus)
RAM (12-24, idk if they're still running)

AD Haderus
Hagnado (8-16)
Children of Hircine (8-24)

EP TF
Pact Miliita (16-24+, now returning from Haderus)
Blood for the Pact (12-16)
Haxus (8-16)
LFG (12-16)
Raven and the Rose (8-16)(now returning from Haderus)
Phoenix Rising (12-24)
Cat Six (2-6)
SOTP (4-16)

EP Haderus:
Darkest Requiem (8-16)(just moved away from TF)
There is a couple others but unknown size and activity

Lol and here I thought EP was smallscale for once!!!!
Hagnado is mostly TF though and should be moved back into the TF list.

Also don't forget Dominion Imperial Guard (DIG) which I think is homed on Had - don't know the size of their groups but assume something like 8-20

I love the idea of this list. It would be great for someone to start a thread "NA PC Guilds and their Servers" or something like that and maintain a list. First comment can be edited regularly by somebody with the time and comments can just be for guild officers to provide updates when things change

Crispen started a thread like this.

The bottom line is TF doesn't need more ad and Ep. Especially not a combined 100+ more.

Celas_Dranacea

Minno wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

@Dashima I like your list. Let me flesh it out a bit more if you don't mind. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

DC TF
Blood of Daggerfall (12-24)
Iron Legion (12-24+)
Pug Guild (12-24+)
The Kelly Gang (8-16)
Wormhole (24+ lol)
Requiem (12-24)
The K-Hole (8-16)
Daggerfall Pride (12-24)
etc (other nonregular, small groups like Elder Skills)

DC Haderus:
Legion of Mordor: 8-16

AD TF
Dominion Knights (12-24)
Fantasia (12-24, now returning from Haderus)
RAM (12-24, idk if they're still running)

AD Haderus
Hagnado (8-16)
Children of Hircine (8-24)

EP TF
Pact Miliita (16-24+, now returning from Haderus)
Blood for the Pact (12-16)
Haxus (8-16)
LFG (12-16)
Raven and the Rose (8-16)(now returning from Haderus)
Phoenix Rising (12-24)
Cat Six (2-6)
SOTP (4-16)

EP Haderus:
Darkest Requiem (8-16)(just moved away from TF)
There is a couple others but unknown size and activity

Lol and here I thought EP was smallscale for once!!!!
Hagnado is mostly TF though and should be moved back into the TF list.

Also don't forget Dominion Imperial Guard (DIG) which I think is homed on Had - don't know the size of their groups but assume something like 8-20

I love the idea of this list. It would be great for someone to start a thread "NA PC Guilds and their Servers" or something like that and maintain a list. First comment can be edited regularly by somebody with the time and comments can just be for guild officers to provide updates when things change

Crispen started a thread like this.

Cool! I seem to remember a "roll call" thread or something like that.

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

More confusion! So was DC dominating or losing? I wasn't for or against anything, really. I don't play in Haderus but have friends who do and who told me they won the last few cycles. Just trying to sort out if I'm being fed false info is all. Calm down.

NACtron wrote: »

Your source is flawed. EP certainly won at least the two out of three of the last campaigns. I am pretty sure we won the last one too. There was a lot of EP night capping going on though so when primetime came around we did not even worry about map Control. Instead we pretty much stayed south going Fantasia or Hagnado hunting around the Sej Drake area. Being on TF is interesting change of pace as we find ourselves mostly fighting up north now.

@God_flakes I don´t know if this makes it clearer. EP has been winning for some time.

Yes because Ep zerged the server down and nobody wants to deal with them. They need to lay in the bed the made. Sorry.

At least, for now, you seem to have gotten the facts right. Toast! No need to say sorry.

Maybe I don't really need another toast!

Don't try to distract us with boobs. Guys -dodge roll out of her red circles of deceit/insults/boobs

God_flakes

DODHitman wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

My hostility comes from your constant lack of reading comprehension....you were told by the guilds what was going on. But you consistently kept arguing the facts with here say. You were also provided with 2 full lists of who is where but yet STILL didnt want to realize that we (the guilds in mention) are seriously trying to help the servers and not trying to break them. So when somebody proclaims we shouldnt be somewhere on false info.....I tend to get a little agitated.

Oh really? So you went and broke Haderus and now you're going to sit here and self righteously claim you're trying to help server balance?!

No. You're BORED. You're realizing you have nobody really left to fight on Haderus because people are sick and tired of your zergy guilds bringing 2-3x the numbers you need to every fight!! Now you're trying to justify creeping back into TF, which already has a queue primetime most nights! I will repeat; you took your zergfest to Haderus. TF doesn't need more bodies!

antihero727

God_flakes wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Rickter is the GM of REQUIEM. He was the one that started the thread calling all AD and EP to come to Had to compete with his Guild. This was a month ago. Several EP and AD guilds answered that called once the Last TF Cycle ended. Since then I believe there have 3-4 campaign cycles. DC is no longer the top dog in Had and hasn't been for sometime. It seems that alot of DC players left for TF.

If you look at the last comment from that thread...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284906/calling-all-non-dc-haderus/p17
You will see that Rickter acknowledges that he got exactly what he asked for.

I ran with Fantasia on Sat during Primetime on Had. They could have painted the entire map Yellow but called it early as soon as it was going to turn into a PVdoor.

When all 3 factions on TF are locked it matters what guilds are locked in with their factions. If the EP/AD guilds replace the random solo players with guild players, the map actually becomes balanced. The key is that the guilds need to balance each other out. Guilds determine map control and sometimes need to move to different campaigns for balance.

Hey I can't be blamed for bad info. For 3 weeks now I have had people telling me Haderus is rocking for DC. I rarely step foot there so I can't be expected to know the ins and outs. Ffs even within this thread someone claimed DC won due to low pop bonus. That's what threw me off. This DOd's hostility towards me is unsettling to say the least. Like dude chill out I'm only trying to get the truth about the dynamics of Haderus. Someone finally got back with me in text ( he homes haderus) and they told me DC pretty much left because they didn't want to deal with the inbound red and yellow waves of crappy players. His exact words were "what did they think was going to happen?"

Then why are you commenting on something you only know of 2nd or 3rd hand? Get your info firsthand and stop trying to sound like you know what's going on in Hadrus. Every 3rd post is trying to explain what's going on. Enough is enough