What do you think of Crown Store Random boxes/Lottery box?

RazielSR

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I guess in the future they will add an insta level50+50 skill points scroll in the crates. Ofc it will appear as a separated purchase in the crown store too.

Now that One Tamriel will be out,it will make more "sense".

Paparoski

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I feel like something the people that voted "yes" don't understand, is that they might add items only available in the lock boxes and nowhere else. Best of all, they might make these items available for a limited time on specifically themed lock boxes and then add new ones with each new "season" or "theme"...
Please do the right thing and don't ruin the game for everyone who has supported it since BETA

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Paparoski wrote: »

I feel like something the people that voted "yes" don't understand, is that they might add items only available in the lock boxes and nowhere else.

So what ? As long as it's only cosmetics, anyone can live happily without it.
I don't understand this compulsive need to "have something".

starkerealm

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Morimizo wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Okay, here's a stray fun little exercise. Someone was giving me flak about my predictions the other night.

I'm going to stress up front, this is not a prediction. I do not think this is what will happen.

It's two years from now. August 2018, the in game population is actually lower than now, particularly in starter zones. Craglorn is the most crowded non-DLC zone, (because of people reading the old comments about it being the best grind spot in the game).

There's an (incorrect) perception that the Werewolf and Vampire spawns have been completely removed from the game, and werewolf bites have been bugged, and reported bugged, for six months on the forums, so the only new wolves are coming from the crown shop.

There are now 15 classes. The basic four, which anyone can access. The Warden, and Mage that were added in update 17 in July, and are kind of underwhelming. If you let your ESO+ subscription lapse, or down own the DLC, any characters you've rolled with those classes become locked until you cough up some cash.

There's also the Necromancer (which was available as a random drop from the Crafting Crates for two weeks back in January). It is hilariously powerful, and the only pet class in the game without a simultaneous pet limit.

There's the Vampire Lord (which is a class morph consumable that completely overwrites your previous class and was a random drop from the crown boxes for Halloween last year).

They've also been dribbling out class morphs, which are consumables that, when used, permanently alter your existing class, swapping out one of the skill lines. Nightblades have received The Assassin and Acrobat. Sorcerers have received the Witchhunter and Druid morphs, the (latter receives werewolf buffs while any of their toggles are active, it's a known issue, but has been left unfixed for months). Templars have received the Crusader and Cleric morphs. Dragon Knights have received the Battlemage morph, and loads of derision.

Morphs were available through the supply crates for three weeks each, and are now in the gem shop only (they cost roughly 300 gems (about $30 worth of duplicate items) each), and raise the level cap to 90, though they appear to cap at 40 (just like how normal skills can be advanced back to rank 4 once morphed). This is bugged, so that the character appears to be well below the level cap to the UI, but is in fact a level 90. Update 16 broke these, slightly, and you now actually see morphed characters' levels instead of their CR.

PvP has been overrun by necromancers, and Cyrodiil is an impressive lagfest, even by our standards. There's usually only 20 or 30 players there at a time, but on any given day, most of them are necromancers, with 50 or 60 undead minions at their command, each, and with the swarm of bones passive that allows skeletons and zombies to deal siege damage to structures Cyrodiil has become a wasteland of undeath.

Since the introduction of Crown supply crates, there hasn't been a single item introduced into the shop for more than 1.8k crowns. Everything that would have been above that price point has gone into the boxes instead. Crafting boxes have been added to the crown store. These are classified as a "convenience" item to save players the trouble of collecting resources themselves, cost 350 crowns, and include a mix of crown store specific materials. They can include Aetheric Resin, a material that replaces any upgrade material with a 100% upgrade chance, aetheric infused leather, aetheric pine, aether cloth, and aetheric steel. Each piece can produce an item of any level, including CR200 items (though CR200 items require ten pieces each). The average box includes ~5 pieces, split between these types).

But, hey, Vvardenfell's just been announced. \o/

There's your requested, doom and gloom.

Hysterical!

If you would be so kind to indulge an addition I believe you may have omitted (no doubt on purpose so as not to scare the kiddies too much):

With the introduction of dueling in PVE areas, PVE'ers and RP's became so disillusioned by their respective broken immersions, that many left (except the Crown Crate-betting patrons of the Fight Club in Davon's Watch Outlaw's Refuge; very popular spot, that); in fact, mostly PVP'ers remained.

So, with Update 14, Open World PVP was finally introduced, but something was missing...

And in Update 15, Siege mechanics hit in full force. Beloved Mage's Guild and Fighter's Guild halls, Banks, Stables, Craft Halls, and Inns, were felled in every city, by Trebuchets and battering Daedroth head rams, and the Necromancer's Undead hordes finished off every surprised NPC more efficiently than a million Blades of Woe.

However, the problem was once everything was destroyed, for some reason nothing reset properly, and the whole place, every city, every hamlet, every farmhouse, was a pile of rubble, then pebbles, then dust, then gone. As of Update 17, this has still not been remedied, but the good news is that there is hope that more than the level geometry will be visible by the next update. *fingers crossed*

An illicit twitter post, written by the "one-who-must-not-be-named, but is the one-who-made-all-these-recent-decisions" was unearthed by a savvy member of the community, who in turn revealed the most polarizing of the quotes:

"I just wanted to destroy something beautiful..."

Cheers!

Man, I wish I'd thought of crown betting on duels.

Waseem

No, don't ever add these into the game.

looks like crowns mystery boxes are going to have the items inside them changed around the year ( making them more tempting to buy )
well.. what could i say.. we have enjoy spending tens of thousands of crowns for "cosmetics" all the way around the year
thats probably the outcome of this thread.
thanks zenixam

catsgomeow

No, don't ever add these into the game.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Paparoski wrote: »

I feel like something the people that voted "yes" don't understand, is that they might add items only available in the lock boxes and nowhere else.

So what ? As long as it's only cosmetics, anyone can live happily without it.
I don't understand this compulsive need to "have something".

The thing about rng boxes some people might not know about is the history of them throughout the mmorpg scene, they have followed the same path in almost every mmo that has introduced them without fail and i dont see why eso would be any different, they only start out cosmetic only, then its exclusive items then it gets into the realm of pay to win then outright pay to win.

My issue with them now is the return of limited time collectables that will be thrown into the boxes, they were limited time for a reason, so were the prices, at the least if they return an item it should be an outright purchase, the bigger issue is the exclusive rng locked content, that is an outright gambling cash grab and for people like me who collect as a hobby with some of their disposable income it is not welcome, i am a collector i am not a gambler, i will not be involved with it.

snakester320

No, don't ever add these into the game.

problem is whats next every fn thing in the crown store accept dlc will be a RNG and stuck in these lock boxes!!! The stupid idiots that support this and buy there little lock boxes ( YES YOU ARE IDIOTS ) will just give ZOS more reason to screw more real money out of everyone!! Because if they are allowed to start this where will it end!! gems accumulated for every thing all costumes will be priced take dollar figures as a example $20 but you have to buy $35 worth of there junk to spend the $20!!

Easily_Lost

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

snakester320 wrote: »

problem is whats next every fn thing in the crown store accept dlc will be a RNG and stuck in these lock boxes!!! The stupid idiots that support this and buy there little lock boxes ( YES YOU ARE IDIOTS ) will just give ZOS more reason to screw more real money out of everyone!! Because if they are allowed to start this where will it end!! gems accumulated for every thing all costumes will be priced take dollar figures as a example $20 but you have to buy $35 worth of there junk to spend the $20!!

I don't understand how the Crown Store boxes are screwing people out of money. If you don't buy them, how are you being screwed out of money.
And yes I voted 'yes', ( so I guess I am idiot ), I believe in giving people a CHOICE, not calling them idiots because they want to spend there money how they see fit.

And to all those that will leave this game over this small 'thing', you must not have been happy with the game in the first place, for whatever reason.

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

catsgomeow wrote: »

The thing about rng boxes some people might not know about is the history of them throughout the mmorpg scene, they have followed the same path in almost every mmo that has introduced them without fail and i dont see why eso would be any different, they only start out cosmetic only, then its exclusive items then it gets into the realm of pay to win then outright pay to win.

I heard EXACTLY the same 18 months ago on the B2P (Tamriel Unlimited) annoucement : ESO was 100% doomed to become P2W before you know it. Yet 18 months later there's still not an ounce of P2W in ESO.
So sorry, but I don't buy it at all. Crown Crates are NOT compelled to make ESO P2W.

jedtb16_ESO

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Paparoski wrote: »

I feel like something the people that voted "yes" don't understand, is that they might add items only available in the lock boxes and nowhere else. Best of all, they might make these items available for a limited time on specifically themed lock boxes and then add new ones with each new "season" or "theme"...
Please do the right thing and don't ruin the game for everyone who has supported it since BETA

i assume you got your information from the same place i did - either read or heard the man say there would be some super special mounts only available in the boxes, yes?

how do you think that someone with a reasonable grasp of english could fail to understand that?

further.... given that you think people would be incapable of understanding that how do you expect them to understand your post?

MarkusLiberty

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Gosh how badly i want that Black Camel of Ill Omen

I feel your pain, every single day. I was away on vacation when it came out.

MornaBaine

No, don't ever add these into the game.

At over 700 "nay" votes, is there ANY chance this very terrible decision will be reversed @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ? Or at LEAST modified to make it so that these "unique" costumes and mounts are also straight up purchasable at regular crown store prices?

VincentBlanquin

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

catsgomeow wrote: »

The thing about rng boxes some people might not know about is the history of them throughout the mmorpg scene, they have followed the same path in almost every mmo that has introduced them without fail and i dont see why eso would be any different, they only start out cosmetic only, then its exclusive items then it gets into the realm of pay to win then outright pay to win.

I heard EXACTLY the same 18 months ago on the B2P (Tamriel Unlimited) annoucement : ESO was 100% doomed to become P2W before you know it. Yet 18 months later there's still not an ounce of P2W in ESO.
So sorry, but I don't buy it at all. Crown Crates are NOT compelled to make ESO P2W.

BT2 result in borked development, if you dont see it at PVE side its noticeable at PVP

no company will invest in lockbox systems, if they wanna only sell cosmetics there. period

EZgoin76

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

I voted for the boxes because I don't care either way. I'll personally never buy one and if it does end up driving a good portion of the player base away... as much as I love this game, it's still just a game. I'll drop my sub and move on.

RinaldoGandolphi

No, don't ever add these into the game.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

catsgomeow wrote: »

The thing about rng boxes some people might not know about is the history of them throughout the mmorpg scene, they have followed the same path in almost every mmo that has introduced them without fail and i dont see why eso would be any different, they only start out cosmetic only, then its exclusive items then it gets into the realm of pay to win then outright pay to win.

I heard EXACTLY the same 18 months ago on the B2P (Tamriel Unlimited) annoucement : ESO was 100% doomed to become P2W before you know it. Yet 18 months later there's still not an ounce of P2W in ESO.
So sorry, but I don't buy it at all. Crown Crates are NOT compelled to make ESO P2W.

Your woefully either misinformed, or just burying your head in the sand...don't know which.

ESO already has P2W Elements in it, and has for a very long time.

1. The absolute Best In Slot Gear(Weapons) in the game are pay-gated behind a DLC(Vet Maelstrom Arena) If you want absolute BIS weapons you have to pay for the content....thats as clear cut as it gets...either you pay for that DLC or you don't get BIS weapons...those that pay for it get them, those that just buy the base game don't....don't get much clearer then that.

2. Crown Experience Scrolls are better in every way then their Perfect Roe counterparts that even the chance of getting a perfect roe is based on horrible RNG, and I had been doing provisioning writs for over 6 months since getting one full recipe of ambrosia and they ninja nerfed the drop rate for recipe fragments down to nearly non-existent out of 600 provisioning writs I seen 0 fragments despite them being 1 out of every 7-10 prior to this change(done to get more people to buy Crown Scrolls)

3. The Vampire and Werewolf spawns in this game used to be predictable and simply waiting for the right times and places you could find these spawns and get infected. A few weeks after putting Vampire and Werewolf in the Crown Store they ninja nerfed the spawn rates of Vamps and WW that can infect you and this has been noticed on PC.....as the only people now getting it really are those who get bite by another player or buy the crown version....The spawns still happen, they just ninja nerfed their spawn rate by about 90% to the point they rarely spawn anymore just outside of sheer bum luck.

They keep pushing the envelope more and more down the P2W route, and blindly defending and looking away won't change that fact. I know the argument your going to try to make for DLC, and just don't go there....ANYTHING your forced to buy, in this case DLC, to have access to BIS gear is P2W period...thats the stinking definition of the term...force customers to buy something with real money to get access to desirable items.

these crowns crates are horrible for the game and they are horrible for you...because they don't have the customers best interest at heart. Don't feed me the line about ZOS need to make money either. I want them to make money, but they also owe it to their customers to fix the damn game, fix the lag, and actually show a concerted effort to fixing bugs instead of going the cheapo route and only fixing bugs in DLC releases because they don't want to pay anyone a salary. Yet they want to squeeze their customers for everything they can...its shameful. You will pay 3-4x what you would buying those mounts stright up in the store...which is the entire intention.

A person is more reluctant to pay say....6000 Crowns up front...but 400 here, 400 there..looks much smaller...its all in the presentation....marketing 101....there is a reason stores list items at say...10.99 instead of 11.00 because 10.99 its the 1st two numbers your brain is focused on, your still really paying 11 bucks(1 penny is nothing) but studies were done on this...people that balked at 11 bucks for item bought the same item for 10.99....marketers are not stupid...I know i learned from one of the best in my younger years.

This entire system is designed to make you pay significantly more money then they could possibly charge in the store by masking the true price behind smaller chunks and using marketing presentation to make it look like a deal.

jedtb16_ESO

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

catsgomeow wrote: »

The thing about rng boxes some people might not know about is the history of them throughout the mmorpg scene, they have followed the same path in almost every mmo that has introduced them without fail and i dont see why eso would be any different, they only start out cosmetic only, then its exclusive items then it gets into the realm of pay to win then outright pay to win.

I heard EXACTLY the same 18 months ago on the B2P (Tamriel Unlimited) annoucement : ESO was 100% doomed to become P2W before you know it. Yet 18 months later there's still not an ounce of P2W in ESO.
So sorry, but I don't buy it at all. Crown Crates are NOT compelled to make ESO P2W.

Your woefully either misinformed, or just burying your head in the sand...don't know which.

ESO already has P2W Elements in it, and has for a very long time.

1. The absolute Best In Slot Gear(Weapons) in the game are pay-gated behind a DLC(Vet Maelstrom Arena) If you want absolute BIS weapons you have to pay for the content....thats as clear cut as it gets...either you pay for that DLC or you don't get BIS weapons...those that pay for it get them, those that just buy the base game don't....don't get much clearer then that.

2. Crown Experience Scrolls are better in every way then their Perfect Roe counterparts that even the chance of getting a perfect roe is based on horrible RNG, and I had been doing provisioning writs for over 6 months since getting one full recipe of ambrosia and they ninja nerfed the drop rate for recipe fragments down to nearly non-existent out of 600 provisioning writs I seen 0 fragments despite them being 1 out of every 7-10 prior to this change(done to get more people to buy Crown Scrolls)

3. The Vampire and Werewolf spawns in this game used to be predictable and simply waiting for the right times and places you could find these spawns and get infected. A few weeks after putting Vampire and Werewolf in the Crown Store they ninja nerfed the spawn rates of Vamps and WW that can infect you and this has been noticed on PC.....as the only people now getting it really are those who get bite by another player or buy the crown version....The spawns still happen, they just ninja nerfed their spawn rate by about 90% to the point they rarely spawn anymore just outside of sheer bum luck.

They keep pushing the envelope more and more down the P2W route, and blindly defending and looking away won't change that fact. I know the argument your going to try to make for DLC, and just don't go there....ANYTHING your forced to buy, in this case DLC, to have access to BIS gear is P2W period...thats the stinking definition of the term...force customers to buy something with real money to get access to desirable items.

these crowns crates are horrible for the game and they are horrible for you...because they don't have the customers best interest at heart. Don't feed me the line about ZOS need to make money either. I want them to make money, but they also owe it to their customers to fix the damn game, fix the lag, and actually show a concerted effort to fixing bugs instead of going the cheapo route and only fixing bugs in DLC releases because they don't want to pay anyone a salary. Yet they want to squeeze their customers for everything they can...its shameful. You will pay 3-4x what you would buying those mounts stright up in the store...which is the entire intention.

A person is more reluctant to pay say....6000 Crowns up front...but 400 here, 400 there..looks much smaller...its all in the presentation....marketing 101....there is a reason stores list items at say...10.99 instead of 11.00 because 10.99 its the 1st two numbers your brain is focused on, your still really paying 11 bucks(1 penny is nothing) but studies were done on this...people that balked at 11 bucks for item bought the same item for 10.99....marketers are not stupid...I know i learned from one of the best in my younger years.

This entire system is designed to make you pay significantly more money then they could possibly charge in the store by masking the true price behind smaller chunks and using marketing presentation to make it look like a deal.

you forgot to add that you are 'forced' to buy the box in the first place...

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I heard EXACTLY the same 18 months ago on the B2P (Tamriel Unlimited) annoucement : ESO was 100% doomed to become P2W before you know it. Yet 18 months later there's still not an ounce of P2W in ESO.
So sorry, but I don't buy it at all. Crown Crates are NOT compelled to make ESO P2W.

Your woefully either misinformed, or just burying your head in the sand...don't know which.

ESO already has P2W Elements in it, and has for a very long time.

1. The absolute Best In Slot Gear(Weapons) in the game are pay-gated behind a DLC(Vet Maelstrom Arena) If you want absolute BIS weapons you have to pay for the content....thats as clear cut as it gets...either you pay for that DLC or you don't get BIS weapons...those that pay for it get them, those that just buy the base game don't....don't get much clearer then that.

2. Crown Experience Scrolls are better in every way then their Perfect Roe counterparts that even the chance of getting a perfect roe is based on horrible RNG, and I had been doing provisioning writs for over 6 months since getting one full recipe of ambrosia and they ninja nerfed the drop rate for recipe fragments down to nearly non-existent out of 600 provisioning writs I seen 0 fragments despite them being 1 out of every 7-10 prior to this change(done to get more people to buy Crown Scrolls)

3. The Vampire and Werewolf spawns in this game used to be predictable and simply waiting for the right times and places you could find these spawns and get infected. A few weeks after putting Vampire and Werewolf in the Crown Store they ninja nerfed the spawn rates of Vamps and WW that can infect you and this has been noticed on PC.....as the only people now getting it really are those who get bite by another player or buy the crown version....The spawns still happen, they just ninja nerfed their spawn rate by about 90% to the point they rarely spawn anymore just outside of sheer bum luck.

Let's keep the rest of your rant aside and concentrate on what you call "P2W".

1. Yes, MSA weapons are BiS gear but you don't need them to complete 100% of the game, not even vMoL. So no, it's not P2W, since you don't need to pay to "beat the game".
2. Ambrosia pots are way better than XP scrolls because they last longer and can be broken into 4 shorter periods of grinding, which is very convenient. Nobody wants to be stuck into 2 hours of XP intensive activities in one go. You don't need to have the recipe to use ambrosia, you don't even need perfect roe. Ambrosia pots are available in every guild store for as cheap as 2-3K. No way to call XP scrolls P2W.
3. Don't you have no friends to bite you ? If not, ask in /zone. You'll find someone real quick. Beats bite scrolls in everyway.

Looks like I am much better informed than you are.

catsgomeow

No, don't ever add these into the game.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

catsgomeow wrote: »

The thing about rng boxes some people might not know about is the history of them throughout the mmorpg scene, they have followed the same path in almost every mmo that has introduced them without fail and i dont see why eso would be any different, they only start out cosmetic only, then its exclusive items then it gets into the realm of pay to win then outright pay to win.

I heard EXACTLY the same 18 months ago on the B2P (Tamriel Unlimited) annoucement : ESO was 100% doomed to become P2W before you know it. Yet 18 months later there's still not an ounce of P2W in ESO.
So sorry, but I don't buy it at all. Crown Crates are NOT compelled to make ESO P2W.

Putting aside the pay to win fear of rng boxes which is one issue and yes it is yet to be seen, its the greedy cheap rng box practice that annoys most people, like me who dont like to be milked as collectors. So yes absolutly as it stands now you are 100% correct and its only a hypothetical, the milking of the player base that is about to commence is not.

GreenhaloX

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Yes.. the no voting is winning.. however, a "no" really never stops anybody or get the message of "No means no!" ZOS, listening.. yeah?

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

catsgomeow wrote: »

Putting aside the pay to win fear of rng boxes which is one issue and yes it is yet to be seen, its the greedy cheap rng box practice that annoys most people, like me who dont like to be milked as collectors. So yes absolutly as it stands now you are 100% correct and its only a hypothetical, the milking of the player base that is about to commence is not.

I don't know if you can milk a reluctant cow IRL, but I'm sure you cannot milk someone's wallet against this person's will.

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Yes.. the no voting is winning.. however, a "no" really never stops anybody or get the message of "No means no!" ZOS, listening.. yeah?

The no vote is dominant but when you look at the posts, the dominant message is not "no", it's "ZOS ! Noooo !!! If you carry on with those boxes I'll be forced to buy them since I'm a collector".

Not sure that message is encouraging ZOS to change their mind.

snakester320

No, don't ever add these into the game.

hagermanj wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

problem is whats next every fn thing in the crown store accept dlc will be a RNG and stuck in these lock boxes!!! The stupid idiots that support this and buy there little lock boxes ( YES YOU ARE IDIOTS ) will just give ZOS more reason to screw more real money out of everyone!! Because if they are allowed to start this where will it end!! gems accumulated for every thing all costumes will be priced take dollar figures as a example $20 but you have to buy $35 worth of there junk to spend the $20!!

I don't understand how the Crown Store boxes are screwing people out of money. If you don't buy them, how are you being screwed out of money.
And yes I voted 'yes', ( so I guess I am idiot ), I believe in giving people a CHOICE, not calling them idiots because they want to spend there money how they see fit.

And to all those that will leave this game over this small 'thing', you must not have been happy with the game in the first place, for whatever reason.

maybe your tune will change when you spend hundreds of real dollars trying to get one of the rare mounts from theses boxes unless your naive to think 1-10 boxes will give you exactly what you want !! so answer me this if there going to bring back theses old mounts costumes whatever why not just stick them back in the crown store???? i tell you because theres more revenue in making ppl buy theses STUPID boxes in hope there going to win everything!! so thats screwing ppl out of money !!! they are idoits because you think if there making more money off gambleing there items off there going to stop and say NAH we have made enough money off you we will stop??? NO and then everything will start to get put in boxes armour weapons or at the very least you will be able to buy weapons and gear from the gems then the game gets a quick boost to pay 2 win!!
ppl who support this idea are so short sighted .. dangle a shinny in front of them and they go crazy.. by paying for theses boxes gives them the go ahead to rip more money of customers through new inventive ways because they know theres a part of the community that will continue to support there bullsh.t ways!!

Kendaric

No, don't ever add these into the game.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Paparoski wrote: »

I feel like something the people that voted "yes" don't understand, is that they might add items only available in the lock boxes and nowhere else.

So what ? As long as it's only cosmetics, anyone can live happily without it.
I don't understand this compulsive need to "have something".

You do realize that for some people, myself included, cosmetics are important, yes?

elvenmad

No, don't ever add these into the game.

snakester320 wrote: »

I don't understand how the Crown Store boxes are screwing people out of money. If you don't buy them, how are you being screwed out of money.

Because they will put in them all the things people want, that's pretty obvious basic sales tactics, if they have nothing in them people want nobody would be 'pushed' to buy them.

But what makes it bad is you pay for a 'chance' to get the item what you want, with no other option to buy outright, so if you want that specific item, you HAVE to gamble for it.

Personally I would prefer to pay slightly more for something I want and know I am 100% guaranteed to get it
NOT pay slightly less with a unknown 'chance' and a very likely chance I will get something I don't want and have no choice in the matter.

Its not rocket science just basic common sense what wrong.

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

no company will invest in lockbox systems, if they wanna only sell cosmetics there. period

Invest ???? Lockbox systems cost nearly nothing to code. That's a commercial choice, not an investment.

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Yes.. the no voting is winning.. however, a "no" really never stops anybody or get the message of "No means no!" ZOS, listening.. yeah?

Sort of... @ZOS_KaiSchober reacted on the german forum :

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3297985#Comment_3297985

(not translating, lazy).

snakester320

No, don't ever add these into the game.

elvenmad wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

I don't understand how the Crown Store boxes are screwing people out of money. If you don't buy them, how are you being screwed out of money.

Because they will put in them all the things people want, that's pretty obvious basic sales tactics, if they have nothing in them people want nobody would be 'pushed' to buy them.

But what makes it bad is you pay for a 'chance' to get the item what you want, with no other option to buy outright, so if you want that specific item, you HAVE to gamble for it.

lmao must have wrote that long before i relized what they actually were lmao my post as per a few posts above paints a diff pic!!

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Kendaric wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Paparoski wrote: »

I feel like something the people that voted "yes" don't understand, is that they might add items only available in the lock boxes and nowhere else.

So what ? As long as it's only cosmetics, anyone can live happily without it.
I don't understand this compulsive need to "have something".

You do realize that for some people, myself included, cosmetics are important, yes?

Important, yes. Doesn't mean you MUST have EVERYTHING and are helplessly FORCED to buy whatever ZOS puts in the game or in the store with whatever sales mechanism attached to it.

When a child looks at something in a store and WANTS it, it's the most important thing on earth in his opinion at that particular moment. Still, if his parents decide to not buy it, he'll have to deal with it.

Sometimes you can't get what you want.

You have every right to be p*ssed at ZOS but that doesn't change the fact that you don't HAVE to buy those boxes.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Yes.. the no voting is winning.. however, a "no" really never stops anybody or get the message of "No means no!" ZOS, listening.. yeah?

Sort of... @ZOS_KaiSchober reacted on the german forum :

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3297985#Comment_3297985

(not translating, lazy).

Well, what Kai says I would consider as "naive" in the best case. He sees crates more as something, what people buy for the consumables, enjoying a chance to get eventually something extra - but this is not how people will use these crates. He is saying this in a way as well, because he says, even if he does not know yet, how many consumables will be in those crates, it will most likely be cheaper to buy them directly instead. So what is it now, Kai?- Naive or deceptive?

jedtb16_ESO

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Kendaric wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Paparoski wrote: »

I feel like something the people that voted "yes" don't understand, is that they might add items only available in the lock boxes and nowhere else.

So what ? As long as it's only cosmetics, anyone can live happily without it.
I don't understand this compulsive need to "have something".

You do realize that for some people, myself included, cosmetics are important, yes?

Important, yes. Doesn't mean you MUST have EVERYTHING and are helplessly FORCED to buy whatever ZOS puts in the game or in the store with whatever sales mechanism attached to it.

When a child looks at something in a store and WANTS it, it's the most important thing on earth in his opinion at that particular moment. Still, if his parents decide to not buy it, he'll have to deal with it.

Sometimes you can't get what you want.

You have every right to be p*ssed at ZOS but that doesn't change the fact that you don't HAVE to buy those boxes.

but it does seem that everyone opposed to the idea feels that they will be 'compelled' to buy them. i'm really not sure how, but hey....