What do you think of Crown Store Random boxes/Lottery box?

snakester320

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Plus side for console players they can get to laugh at the ''MASTER RACE'' PC players first as they throw there hard earned cash away trying to get a certain mount or item...!!! Then we can totally abandon this stupid cash grab idea.. sorry pc players!!

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

wonkydog wrote: »

hagermanj wrote: »

I might get this Reply removed, but so be it. I guess most of the people that say they don't line the Crown Boxes is that they are/worry about gambling addicts ( from what I have read ), I understand that ( I am not a gambling addict, but have been told that I am an alcoholic, so I don't take a drink ). Anyway back to what I want to say: do you live in states ( in US ) on in countries that have lottery's ( also you are legal age ), if so, Do you buy excessive amount if lottery tickets. Probably not. So way are these so bad. If you don't like the idea then DON'T BUY THEM,

That's all I have to say. And the words of Mick Foley ( WWE former wrestler ): HAVE A GOOD DAY.

I don't buy excessive (or any) lottery tickets, however, I would be uncomfortable to be with people spending a lot of money that they often cannot afford, in the hope that they will win a life changing amount. Their life does change, but normally for the worse.

Regardless of potential issues people have with addiction, the major issue here is exploiting customer's wallets. People want x mount, they are happy to pay xxx crowns for said mount. No one is arguing over this. However, to make people have to buy random boxes and potentially spend xxxxxxx crowns for the mount is the issue. People want to buy specific items for a specific price. They can then budget for it. They do not want to be in a situation where they have no idea how much a mount will cost them, or even any idea if they will actually get it.

I go on itunes to buy a certain album for £10. I want that album so I buy it. I don't want to go to Itunes and give them £3 and there is a 1/1,000 chance I will get the album I want. I might save money but the maths says it is 999 times more likely I will not get what I am looking for.

The crown boxes are even worse than your metaphor - in the unlikely case to win, you would would not get the album you like, but a random album, regardless if you want this album or not. And just if you have that album already, you get gems to buy that album which you like from an extra store - but it might just cost a little more gems than you have - so you have to keep gambling or your "win" was just a handful of worthless gems with which you can buy nothing of that what you want.

LrdRahvin

No, don't ever add these into the game.

snakester320 wrote: »

Plus side for console players they can get to laugh at the ''MASTER RACE'' PC players first as they throw there hard earned cash away trying to get a certain mount or item...!!! Then we can totally abandon this stupid cash grab idea.. sorry pc players!!

I'll be abandoning "something"...that's for sure.

Elsonso

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Lysette wrote: »

The crown boxes are even worse than your metaphor - in the unlikely case to win, you would would not get the album you like, but a random album, regardless if you want this album or not. And just if you have that album already, you get gems to buy that album which you like from an extra store - but it might just cost a little more gems than you have - so you have to keep gambling or your "win" was just a handful of worthless gems with which you can buy nothing of that what you want.

Yes, it is a game to them.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Legoless wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I've purchased every cosmetic offered in the Crown Store, every - single - one.

You shouldn't have too much of a problem accruing the Crown Gems needed to get the new mounts then, assuming they'll be available in that manner. Non-whales who don't buy everything will have a much tougher time getting them and will end up filling their collection with all sorts of trash along the way.

This is an excellent point (minus the trash part ). If you own the majority of collectibles already, then you'll gain Gems a lot more frequently, and can then purchase another collectible of your choice from the current Crown Crate season.

Collecting Gems is what players are supposed to be doing when there is nothing new in the Crates.

Mojmir

No, don't ever add these into the game.

nerf vet crown store arena hard mode.

snakester320

No, don't ever add these into the game.

lets not forget look at there current prices for things imo there a rip off but whatever .. you think these BOXES are going to be 75crowns [Snip]..... i would not be suprised if there 500 crowns each so take the flaming horse or the dread cow wolf was 2500 crowns you really think the boxes are a 1/5 chance of getting that mount YEAH RIGHT!! the the black and blue panther 4000 crowns there going to give that to you for less than the actual cost in the first place... KEEP DREAMING why would the screw there own market ( bring back the mount sell it for 4000 crowns money made!! )

[Edit to remove profanity]

elvenmad

No, don't ever add these into the game.

snakester320 wrote: »

lets not forget look at there current prices for things imo there a rip off but whatever .. you think these BOXES are going to be 75crowns bullsh.t..... i would not be suprised if there 500 crowns each so take the flaming horse or the dread cow wolf was 2500 crowns you really think the boxes are a 1/5 chance of getting that mount YEAH RIGHT!! the the black and blue panther 4000 crowns there going to give that to you for less than the actual cost in the first place... KEEP DREAMING why would the screw there own market ( bring back the mount sell it for 4000 crowns money made!! )

They already stated they be 400 Crowns per box

"Toward the end of November, we'll be giving you a chance to receive some very special items with the introduction of Crown Crates. These Crates, available in the Crown Store for just 400 crowns, will contain a randomized selection of useful consumables, and offer a chance to obtain rare and unique cosmetic items or mounts, including some previously-retired mounts, costumes, pets, and limited-time offers that are no longer available in the Crown Store. Crates will have different themes throughout the year, giving you the chance to obtain new, extremely rare items.

In the event you receive a mount, pet, costume or personality that you already own, you'll be awarded special Crown Gems in its place. These Gems can be used to purchase other collectible items from the current Crown Crate season that you'd prefer to have instead"

Cazzy

No, don't ever add these into the game.

snakester320 wrote: »

lets not forget look at there current prices for things imo there a rip off but whatever .. you think these BOXES are going to be 75crowns bullsh.t..... i would not be suprised if there 500 crowns each so take the flaming horse or the dread cow wolf was 2500 crowns you really think the boxes are a 1/5 chance of getting that mount YEAH RIGHT!! the the black and blue panther 4000 crowns there going to give that to you for less than the actual cost in the first place... KEEP DREAMING why would the screw there own market ( bring back the mount sell it for 4000 crowns money made!! )

The boxes will be 400 crowns and, yeah, the odds of getting something other than potions or food will be slim. Very slim.

Edit for clarification: I do not know the RNG of the boxes, only that consumables are definite whilst collectibles are only a "chance" as per; These Crates, available in the Crown Store for just 400 crowns, will contain a randomized selection of useful consumables, and offer a chance to obtain rare and unique cosmetic items or mounts, including some previously-retired mounts, costumes, pets, and limited-time offers that are no longer available in the Crown Store.

Abeille

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

lordrichter wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

The crown boxes are even worse than your metaphor - in the unlikely case to win, you would would not get the album you like, but a random album, regardless if you want this album or not. And just if you have that album already, you get gems to buy that album which you like from an extra store - but it might just cost a little more gems than you have - so you have to keep gambling or your "win" was just a handful of worthless gems with which you can buy nothing of that what you want.

Yes, it is a game to them.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Legoless wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I've purchased every cosmetic offered in the Crown Store, every - single - one.

You shouldn't have too much of a problem accruing the Crown Gems needed to get the new mounts then, assuming they'll be available in that manner. Non-whales who don't buy everything will have a much tougher time getting them and will end up filling their collection with all sorts of trash along the way.

This is an excellent point (minus the trash part ). If you own the majority of collectibles already, then you'll gain Gems a lot more frequently, and can then purchase another collectible of your choice from the current Crown Crate season.

Collecting Gems is what players are supposed to be doing when there is nothing new in the Crates.

It wouldn't be so bad if unwanted items that are not repeated could be made into Gems too. I mean, someone who passed on a Hero Costume because they found it really badly made surely would want to receive the equivalent to 2000 Crowns on Crown gems instead of the costume.

Buffler

This thread is insane

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

ADarklore wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

With Skyrim: Special Edition coming out the end of October, makes me wonder how many players will leave and return to Skyrim?

A fair few I suppose, but the new version doesn't actually offer anything new to PC players aside from a 64-bit client, so that part of the playerbase doesn't have a good reason to go back.

I dunno, I've heard it's been completely remastered and updated... so it may well have a completely new feel to playing it.

That is as well not new to PC players - with mods we could have a bunch of different feel to it - like in my case it is a harsh survival game in an icy frozen Skyrim, where weather conditions are extreme and I value thick fur clothes, which keep me warm over more protective armor, in which I could just freeze to death - my Skyrim is very different from the vanilla version.

Cazzy

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Abeille wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

The crown boxes are even worse than your metaphor - in the unlikely case to win, you would would not get the album you like, but a random album, regardless if you want this album or not. And just if you have that album already, you get gems to buy that album which you like from an extra store - but it might just cost a little more gems than you have - so you have to keep gambling or your "win" was just a handful of worthless gems with which you can buy nothing of that what you want.

Yes, it is a game to them.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Legoless wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I've purchased every cosmetic offered in the Crown Store, every - single - one.

You shouldn't have too much of a problem accruing the Crown Gems needed to get the new mounts then, assuming they'll be available in that manner. Non-whales who don't buy everything will have a much tougher time getting them and will end up filling their collection with all sorts of trash along the way.

This is an excellent point (minus the trash part ). If you own the majority of collectibles already, then you'll gain Gems a lot more frequently, and can then purchase another collectible of your choice from the current Crown Crate season.

Collecting Gems is what players are supposed to be doing when there is nothing new in the Crates.

It wouldn't be so bad if unwanted items that are not repeated could be made into Gems too. I mean, someone who passed on a Hero Costume because they found it really badly made surely would want to receive the equivalent to 2000 Crowns on Crown gems instead of the costume.

I'm wondering if this is one of the ways they're making up for lost sales during those "Hero Costume" releases. Have us buy it without knowing

jedtb16_ESO

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Buffler wrote: »

This thread is insane

welcome to the internet....

elvenmad

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I am more interested in all the fine details and small print we do not know yet

Like whats the exchange rate for Crown Gems, I very doubt it will be favorable, and certainly not work out like mount for mount rate, otherwise there would just simply be a mount exchange option, or costume exchange,.

I can see the exchange rate for gems being pretty awful and require and number of box purchase's to have enough for a Gem Store mount, and even then after purchasing more boxes you need to be very lucky to get a costume or mount and if you do hope its not one you don't want and have not got other wise your stuck with it and get no Gems.

NordSwordnBoard

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Capitalism, folks.

The invisible hand of the market scoffs at your opinions, money earned will always drown out social and ethical considerations. Even to the point of endangering the society that it siphons from. Gambling will never be erased, the best you can do is regulate it to levels where it doesn't consume itself out of existence. Even governments know that refusing to run a state lottery means that money just gets gambled away elsewhere. At least in theory the money goes to the general public instead of the mob when a gov't runs it.

If ZOS was selling insurance or mortgages in a predatory way I would have a problem. However, we ALL take mulitple voluntary steps to get this game/characters to the point that we need crown store stuff to supplement what we bought off the shelf.

Imo it's a stupid tax/lottery. Pay if you want to be thrilled with rolling the dice, that's the purpose, not the end result. ZOS figured out how to turn the person who must have everything into a bigger cash cow - one that helps support the rest of the players' content. At least you "win" every time you play - the worth of the prize is subjective to the winner.

In order to partake in this you have to be ready, willing, & financially able to hand over your money for what you want. You are responsible as the consumer for meeting these three initial requirements, not the seller.

Osteos

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Cazzy wrote: »

I'm wondering if this is one of the ways they're making up for lost sales during those "Hero Costume" releases. Have us buy it without knowing

What a horrible thought! I wouldn't wish that wretched costume on my worst enemy!

jedtb16_ESO

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Lysette wrote: »

wonkydog wrote: »

hagermanj wrote: »

I might get this Reply removed, but so be it. I guess most of the people that say they don't line the Crown Boxes is that they are/worry about gambling addicts ( from what I have read ), I understand that ( I am not a gambling addict, but have been told that I am an alcoholic, so I don't take a drink ). Anyway back to what I want to say: do you live in states ( in US ) on in countries that have lottery's ( also you are legal age ), if so, Do you buy excessive amount if lottery tickets. Probably not. So way are these so bad. If you don't like the idea then DON'T BUY THEM,

That's all I have to say. And the words of Mick Foley ( WWE former wrestler ): HAVE A GOOD DAY.

I don't buy excessive (or any) lottery tickets, however, I would be uncomfortable to be with people spending a lot of money that they often cannot afford, in the hope that they will win a life changing amount. Their life does change, but normally for the worse.

Regardless of potential issues people have with addiction, the major issue here is exploiting customer's wallets. People want x mount, they are happy to pay xxx crowns for said mount. No one is arguing over this. However, to make people have to buy random boxes and potentially spend xxxxxxx crowns for the mount is the issue. People want to buy specific items for a specific price. They can then budget for it. They do not want to be in a situation where they have no idea how much a mount will cost them, or even any idea if they will actually get it.

I go on itunes to buy a certain album for £10. I want that album so I buy it. I don't want to go to Itunes and give them £3 and there is a 1/1,000 chance I will get the album I want. I might save money but the maths says it is 999 times more likely I will not get what I am looking for.

The crown boxes are even worse than your metaphor - in the unlikely case to win, you would would not get the album you like, but a random album, regardless if you want this album or not. And just if you have that album already, you get gems to buy that album which you like from an extra store - but it might just cost a little more gems than you have - so you have to keep gambling or your "win" was just a handful of worthless gems with which you can buy nothing of that what you want.

so you've seen them..... or is that just more speculation?

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

wonkydog wrote: »

It is clear that these are coming in, however, it would still be nice to see some kind of x both in x hours limits in place to stop people getting addicted to the gambling. One box a day would be a fair solution in my option. It would allow people to try and win some goodies but also not get carried away. If we can have it for crafting and for horse levelling then we could have it for this.

This - it would solve the problem for me - and nothing should be exclusive to those RNG boxes as well. If these 2 things would be implemented, I would be ok with these boxes - 1 box per day and ACCOUNT - not per character.

anitajoneb17_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Cazzy wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

lets not forget look at there current prices for things imo there a rip off but whatever .. you think these BOXES are going to be 75crowns bullsh.t..... i would not be suprised if there 500 crowns each so take the flaming horse or the dread cow wolf was 2500 crowns you really think the boxes are a 1/5 chance of getting that mount YEAH RIGHT!! the the black and blue panther 4000 crowns there going to give that to you for less than the actual cost in the first place... KEEP DREAMING why would the screw there own market ( bring back the mount sell it for 4000 crowns money made!! )

The boxes will be 400 crowns and, yeah, the odds of getting something other than potions or food will be slim. Very slim.

Cazzy, you're AGAIN speculating about things when you have absolutely no info, just for the fun of predicting the worst.
You have already backtracked from your decision to leave, just like wonkydog and Lysette (she backtracked on suing) , that's fine, but then please stop the drama. Be positive. Wait for info.
Worst case scenario, you don't buy any crown crates, problem solved.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Enodoc wrote: »

Siphoneer wrote: »

How do I vote the no option lol

Not like that

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

senhavran wrote: »

CROWN CRATES

Toward the end of November, we'll be giving you a chance to receive some very special items with the introduction of Crown Crates. These Crates, available in the Crown Store for just 400 crowns, will contain a randomized selection of useful consumables, and offer a chance to obtain rare and unique cosmetic items or mounts, including some previously-retired mounts, costumes, pets, and limited-time offers that are no longer available in the Crown Store. Crates will have different themes throughout the year, giving you the chance to obtain new, extremely rare items.

In the event you receive a mount, pet, costume or personality that you already own, you'll be awarded special Crown Gems in its place. These Gems can be used to purchase other collectible items from the current Crown Crate season that you'd prefer to have instead.

If I understand this right, it means that some items you might have gambled for by buying crown crates will be removed before you obtained it if you were unlucky enough to not get it before the Crown Crate season we're currently in ends?

I am starting to dislike this crown crates exclusive items idea... I might not even buy one of them and save all my crowns for what I'm 100% sure I will get from the crown store. I am still keeping my wait and see stance for now, I can't wait to see how it really works if it's live on the PTS next week.

i've gone the other way.... initially i had no intention of buying them but now i think i will so i can see for myself what the fuss is about.

The thing to do is buy them on PTS. That way you can test the RNG, get a feel for what's in them, but never actually spend any money on them unless you really want to.

You just forget, that you cannot trust ZOS - they can manipulate the chances on the PTS and then ninja-change them in the live version to something much worse. They did not show an honest way to deal with us so far.

[Edit to remove bashing and misinformation]

Abeille

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

snakester320 wrote: »

lets not forget look at there current prices for things imo there a rip off but whatever .. you think these BOXES are going to be 75crowns bullsh.t..... i would not be suprised if there 500 crowns each so take the flaming horse or the dread cow wolf was 2500 crowns you really think the boxes are a 1/5 chance of getting that mount YEAH RIGHT!! the the black and blue panther 4000 crowns there going to give that to you for less than the actual cost in the first place... KEEP DREAMING why would the screw there own market ( bring back the mount sell it for 4000 crowns money made!! )

The boxes will be 400 crowns and, yeah, the odds of getting something other than potions or food will be slim. Very slim.

Cazzy, you're AGAIN speculating about things when you have absolutely no info, just for the fun of predicting the worst.
You have already backtracked from your decision to leave, just like wonkydog and Lysette (she backtracked on suing) , that's fine, but then please stop the drama. Be positive. Wait for info.
Worst case scenario, you don't buy any crown crates, problem solved.

Well, actual worst case scenario they shift development focus to the Crown Crates and start putting actually relevant stuff in there, like many companies did before them :V

But yes, there is also the chance that ZOS will be different.
Every time I see this happening, I always say "maybe this time it will be different". I have to be right eventually, right?

Elsonso

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Cazzy wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

The crown boxes are even worse than your metaphor - in the unlikely case to win, you would would not get the album you like, but a random album, regardless if you want this album or not. And just if you have that album already, you get gems to buy that album which you like from an extra store - but it might just cost a little more gems than you have - so you have to keep gambling or your "win" was just a handful of worthless gems with which you can buy nothing of that what you want.

Yes, it is a game to them.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Legoless wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I've purchased every cosmetic offered in the Crown Store, every - single - one.

You shouldn't have too much of a problem accruing the Crown Gems needed to get the new mounts then, assuming they'll be available in that manner. Non-whales who don't buy everything will have a much tougher time getting them and will end up filling their collection with all sorts of trash along the way.

This is an excellent point (minus the trash part ). If you own the majority of collectibles already, then you'll gain Gems a lot more frequently, and can then purchase another collectible of your choice from the current Crown Crate season.

Collecting Gems is what players are supposed to be doing when there is nothing new in the Crates.

It wouldn't be so bad if unwanted items that are not repeated could be made into Gems too. I mean, someone who passed on a Hero Costume because they found it really badly made surely would want to receive the equivalent to 2000 Crowns on Crown gems instead of the costume.

I'm wondering if this is one of the ways they're making up for lost sales during those "Hero Costume" releases. Have us buy it without knowing

Well, and that is another interesting aspect to this.

People did not buy some of the premium limited offers because they perceived quality issues that made the item worth less than the listed Crown price.

Are there going to be exclusive items in these Crates, presented to us as a static screen capture in low resolution from a favorable angle? People won't know whether these things are "junk" until someone wins one and reports back.

I guess we can be fairly confident that the quality of the Crown Store items will not appreciably improve. That means that people who try for these super rare exclusive items have no reason to complain when they turn out to be "junk". Everyone is willing to accept whatever quality ZOS dishes out. Right?

If you are someone who might be critical of the quality of these items, you will probably want to stay far away from these Crates until the guinea pigs have a chance to squeak out a report.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Cazzy wrote: »

I still feel like there's so much 'hidden' information. For example; what will happen to the exclusive mounts we get in the regular Crown Store? Will we still get them or is everything going into the boxes now?

So many datamined collectibles have yet to appear and it's a worry that the boxes will actually replace our exclusive/limited offers.

It's pretty clear what will be mostly in those boxes - all these "retired" items we have seen since months - now it is as well clear, why they retired stuff, which just entered the crown store. This was planned for a longer time to come and that is why they cleared out the crown shop, while telling us, they would have to make room in the crown store - yes, but for the boxes. Most of that stuff you will find in future in some kind of box, where they can hide the actual price of the product and raise it to heights, which no one would be willing to pay, if they would know about it - this is what makes it so utterly disgusting.

dsalter

No, don't ever add these into the game.

ADarklore wrote: »

With Skyrim: Special Edition coming out the end of October, makes me wonder how many players will leave and return to Skyrim?

what if they decide to bring paid mods again?with it being a "new game" they could easily manipulate it to make it happen.

Abeille

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

dsalter wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

With Skyrim: Special Edition coming out the end of October, makes me wonder how many players will leave and return to Skyrim?

what if they decide to bring paid mods again?with it being a "new game" they could easily manipulate it to make it happen.

I imagine the internet's reaction would be pretty much the same as last time.

Magus

No, don't ever add these into the game.

RNG in this game is terrible. We should be removing RNG and moving to a token system so you can get what you actually want. We should not be adding more RNG into the game in any form.

Garldeen

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Cazzy wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

The crown boxes are even worse than your metaphor - in the unlikely case to win, you would would not get the album you like, but a random album, regardless if you want this album or not. And just if you have that album already, you get gems to buy that album which you like from an extra store - but it might just cost a little more gems than you have - so you have to keep gambling or your "win" was just a handful of worthless gems with which you can buy nothing of that what you want.

Yes, it is a game to them.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Legoless wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

I've purchased every cosmetic offered in the Crown Store, every - single - one.

You shouldn't have too much of a problem accruing the Crown Gems needed to get the new mounts then, assuming they'll be available in that manner. Non-whales who don't buy everything will have a much tougher time getting them and will end up filling their collection with all sorts of trash along the way.

This is an excellent point (minus the trash part ). If you own the majority of collectibles already, then you'll gain Gems a lot more frequently, and can then purchase another collectible of your choice from the current Crown Crate season.

Collecting Gems is what players are supposed to be doing when there is nothing new in the Crates.

It wouldn't be so bad if unwanted items that are not repeated could be made into Gems too. I mean, someone who passed on a Hero Costume because they found it really badly made surely would want to receive the equivalent to 2000 Crowns on Crown gems instead of the costume.

I'm wondering if this is one of the ways they're making up for lost sales during those "Hero Costume" releases. Have us buy it without knowing

Talking of which, I wonder which poor so and poor will 'win' the hero costume

elvenmad

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I wonder if there's going to be an ESO live stream this week?

I really really hope so, not really interested what they say, these boxes are coming anyway, that is more than obvious, I want to see what happens will they stand up and explain how it is going to work or are they going to flat ignore it and pretend like nothing has happened.

We are overdue one last weeks was postponed apparently due to technical issues or that's what I heard.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Dromede wrote: »

ragespell wrote: »

uzi wrote: »

Gotta say, I have mixed feelings about this. Initially, I regarded this as a negative thing and thought rng boxes are just plain wrong to add into a MMO. Some poor guy probably missed their limited polar bear/ frost horse from their collection is blindly going to spend 500 EUR to get it.

But then I thought maybe if the price of the rng box was low enough and the chance to get a mount was relatively high enough, this could be ok so that you'd only have to spend around 40-50 EUR to get the limited mount you were looking for. This presents another problem, however. Eventually the guy buying rng boxes would have WAY more stuff for his money than the guy who originally bought the limited mount when it was truly limited.

I've come up with a solution though. Add multiple, different rng boxes, so that each COULD contain one of 1-3 different limited mounts, so that people would still have to farm but at least they didn't have to burn the whole forest down but instead 1/3 or 1/4 of the forest to find the mount they were looking for.

There isn't any chance that what you hope will happens: if the average price of mount in boxes would be around 4000 crows, they will simply sell them in the store.

Boxes are used to make people pay a price they would never spend upfront. In my opinion rare mount will cost as much as few hundreds dollars on average.
The second reason to keep rare items rare, is to not lower their value: if everybody and his mother would run around with the "black unicorn of the seven seals", in little to no time nobody would want it anymore.

This sounds true and insane at the same time. I guess rare mount price will have to be much higher than 4000 crowns unless there's a solid 10% chance of getting it out of 400 crown boxes.. which is very unlikely.

I have given an example that a 5% chance to win anything would lead to something what makes ZOS 8000 crowns for any special item in the box - from a 400 crown pet to a 4500 crown special mount - their average revenue for any such item they would have to give out would be 8000 crowns - with a 5% chance - but I expect it to be more like 1-3% at most and when they say "extremely rare" expect 0.1% - extremely rare means, if you are not extremely lucky you will never ever get it. But even if you are extremely lucky you will have to buy a few hundred boxes to have a realistic chance to get what you want.

Garldeen

No, don't ever add these into the game.

elvenmad wrote: »

I wonder if there's going to be an ESO live stream this week?

I really really hope so, not really interested what they say, these boxes are coming anyway, that is more than obvious, I want to see what happens will they stand up and explain how it is going to work or are they going to flat ignore it and pretend like nothing has happened.

We are overdue one last weeks was postponed apparently due to technical issues

Twitch says yes there will be.

Edit: it did say there was one this friday, now says 'Join Us Live for ESO Headquarters Coverage at PAX West 9/2 - 9/5 '