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An auction house is still needed?

  • Easily_Lost
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    I have read all the posts and found them very entertaining.
    I support the Trade Guild system, and that the prices set are what people will pay ( called FREE MARKET ).

    esometric wrote: »
    i think better limitations for guild: tax what must pay guild owner for game server 80% from all what get guild, and guild shop can sell 5 items per day. or best wahay totaly take out guild shops and dont give for guild owners make money froim this and cheat people.

    I highlighted the section that does not make since. You say that a Guild Shop can only sell 5 items per day. Is that to one person or is it total sales per day. If it is 'sales per day' then you would never be able to find anything for sale because those 5 items would be sold witin minutes after the day changed ( whenever that time is ).
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  • Vipstaakki
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    NO for auction houses. There is no need to fix a system that is not broken. Leave the guild traders alone!
  • Articulemort
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    Another post made by the same people. I always say No to auction houses but instead...

    Yes, please take away the biggest gold sink in the game. I would love to keep the 200k a week I throw into my guild.

    Yes, please make all items sold in one place so I no longer have to run around looking to good deals on items to flip.

    Yes, please make it easier for me and my guild mates to manipulate the market for items. It's too hard right now with all the traders, but in a AH I wouldn't even have to move! I would love to drive the price of high demand items easily!

    If you truly think the economy is broken, you have no idea how badly it will get under a AH. Where do you think the millions of gold these guild bid goes every week? It literally disappears from the game. Take that away you will have a lot more rich players with the gold available to manipulate the market.

    Quit making these stupid posts and just join a top trading guild. If you can't afford the 5k weekly due most guilds have, you aren't playing properly.
    Edited by Articulemort on August 6, 2016 2:39PM
  • ADarklore
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    Seems that every poll I've seen on this issue, the majority always says NO to AH... and ZOS has also said NO to AH as they want to encourage people to be more social, people to be in towns, and people to spend time in the game- and yes, spending time in the game sometimes means spending that time running all over checking Guild Traders. It's funny because those on here must be very young to not remember a time before internet, where you had to go from store to store looking for what you wanted... it was a pain, it took a lot of gas money, but that's how the world works. In Tamriel, there is NO internet, so it would not only be Lore-breaking but immersion-breaking as well. So I stand with ZOS and believe that the Guild Traders work, I belong to several of them and I don't have a problem selling items and I make all my gold that way.
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  • Unsent.Soul
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.
  • Cheveyo
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    1. The current system does not encourage me to be more social. It encourages me to hate the system and not want to keep playing the game.

    2. The current system benefits only those lucky enough to be in guilds that claimed the best spots in game. I have yet to see a single guild name change. They are always the same guilds.

    3. The current system makes it difficult for new players to progress beyond a certain point. Creating a MASSIVE wealth gap between those in those few guilds and those who are not in them.

    4. A simple solution would be to simply keep the guild traders that few love so much, and introduce a second set of global auction NPCs. Those who love the guild trading system and are so certain every other players loves it just as much as they do should have no issue with this.
  • esometric
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    Vipstaakki wrote: »
    NO for auction houses. There is no need to fix a system that is not broken. Leave the guild traders alone!

    give solo players make own shops and trade in your crap guild shops no ones care.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    esometric wrote: »
    Vipstaakki wrote: »
    NO for auction houses. There is no need to fix a system that is not broken. Leave the guild traders alone!

    give solo players make own shops and trade in your crap guild shops no ones care.

    You know, if you want people to listen to your request or suggestion, or even criticism, a sensible thing to do is to avoid trash talk. Just sayin'.

  • esometric
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    LOL. No. Never.

  • Articulemort
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    You already have it. Wait for it....





    It's called Zone Chat on pc and area chat on console.
    *gasp*
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    hagermanj wrote: »
    I have read all the posts and found them very entertaining.
    I support the Trade Guild system, and that the prices set are what people will pay ( called FREE MARKET ).

    esometric wrote: »
    i think better limitations for guild: tax what must pay guild owner for game server 80% from all what get guild, and guild shop can sell 5 items per day. or best wahay totaly take out guild shops and dont give for guild owners make money froim this and cheat people.

    I highlighted the section that does not make since. You say that a Guild Shop can only sell 5 items per day. Is that to one person or is it total sales per day. If it is 'sales per day' then you would never be able to find anything for sale because those 5 items would be sold witin minutes after the day changed ( whenever that time is ).

    He wants guild stores to either be taxed out of existence ("tax what must pay guild owner for game server 80% from all what get guild"), or effectively shut down by limiting them to 5 sales a day, or be shut down completely so that he can have an auction house.

    What is interesting is his allegation that guild traders "cheat" - though by definition they can't as they enact ZoS rules.

    It's also interesting that the objection some people have is that the system bleeds guilds dry, with trader slots continually changing because guilds can't afford to pay for them, and yet other people are objecting to the fact that there is no change over in trader ownership...

    They are upset because either their guild couldn't make enough sales to keep their trader, or couldn't raise enough funds to successfully bid for a trader.

    And because they can't have fun they don't want anyone to have any fun. It's that childish :(
  • esometric
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    LOL. No. Never.

    yes and then all laf from your guild shop.
  • esometric
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    You already have it. Wait for it....





    It's called Zone Chat on pc and area chat on console.
    *gasp*

    ok then remove guild shops totaly and open solo shops and for guilds will be only one trade zone: CHAT
  • esometric
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    hagermanj wrote: »
    I have read all the posts and found them very entertaining.
    I support the Trade Guild system, and that the prices set are what people will pay ( called FREE MARKET ).

    esometric wrote: »
    i think better limitations for guild: tax what must pay guild owner for game server 80% from all what get guild, and guild shop can sell 5 items per day. or best wahay totaly take out guild shops and dont give for guild owners make money froim this and cheat people.

    I highlighted the section that does not make since. You say that a Guild Shop can only sell 5 items per day. Is that to one person or is it total sales per day. If it is 'sales per day' then you would never be able to find anything for sale because those 5 items would be sold witin minutes after the day changed ( whenever that time is ).

    He wants guild stores to either be taxed out of existence ("tax what must pay guild owner for game server 80% from all what get guild"), or effectively shut down by limiting them to 5 sales a day, or be shut down completely so that he can have an auction house.

    What is interesting is his allegation that guild traders "cheat" - though by definition they can't as they enact ZoS rules.

    It's also interesting that the objection some people have is that the system bleeds guilds dry, with trader slots continually changing because guilds can't afford to pay for them, and yet other people are objecting to the fact that there is no change over in trader ownership...

    They are upset because either their guild couldn't make enough sales to keep their trader, or couldn't raise enough funds to successfully bid for a trader.

    And because they can't have fun they don't want anyone to have any fun. It's that childish :(

    time to remove totaly crap guild stores from game will be best
  • Cogo
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    Hi Cheveyo!
    Cheveyo wrote: »
    1. The current system does not encourage me to be more social. It encourages me to hate the system and not want to keep playing the game.

    Sad to hear bro, but do you need a money system you like to be happy? :)

    Trading guilds wants to have the max number of members, which often need to be active with sales to keep their spot.
    Guilds are allowed to make their own rules and invite as they wish?

    You have the full option to join whatever guild you wish. 5 at the same time even! If you don't want to, that's fine too.
    Guilds are 100% player driven. Would you be more social if ZoS decided over each guild?
    2. The current system benefits only those lucky enough to be in guilds that claimed the best spots in game. I have yet to see a single guild name change. They are always the same guilds.

    If this is your experience, that sucks.
    I have a somewhat different experience. I run a social guild where we had several smaller spots with mixed sales. There is no problem finding a spot that gets visited and you sell if you have enough goods.

    I am also part of 2 medium size trading guilds that have one trader in Shadowfen and one in Glenumbra. Both spots are neither the best spots or empty spots. Both guilds have been around for over a year and had pretty much the same trader. both sell good enough every day.

    Your sales in the store is more based on how much there is for sale and prices.
    The price for the trader needs to be supported by what you have for sale. Each player can put up 30 items, so you don't need 50 active players to fill up a store. You cant just buy a prime spot and expect sales......

    The prime spots in Deeshan (Zone for pledges), Wrothgar, Craglorn and both in the thief guilds land and Dark brotherhood lands, does have big powerful trading guilds that pays 100.000s (If not Million) per spot, which they GAIN in sales to....you.

    Every trader is a global AH, and sells to all 3 factions, to all players. Not just those in the guild.

    The prime spots does change every now and then. Bidwars are always going on and sometimes a guild doesn't bid for X reason, and a quick smaller guilds nabs the place for 500 gold! The number of these spots are 10ish traders per zone (Plus the fence)?
    This is more then enough for all kinds of guilds with a store. A few trader may never change guild name. But they pay for it!

    Our guild actually had a main spot in craglorn, when I noticed the trader was not hired! Hired it for 500!

    This is working as intended. is it not?
    3. The current system makes it difficult for new players to progress beyond a certain point. Creating a MASSIVE wealth gap between those in those few guilds and those who are not in them.
    Most of my sales are done in zonechat. I am 99% sure that the vast majority of players sells much more in zonechat then from traders.
    There are players who get rich and sell tons in big trading guilds. Good, that's intended.

    What is this wealth gap? I would bet that the regular player have something around 50K gold to 200K gold.
    Sure, there are players with millions, but there should be, and they are not common.

    Everyone starts with 0, then its up to you. Is this wrong?
    4. A simple solution would be to simply keep the guild traders that few love so much, and introduce a second set of global auction NPCs. Those who love the guild trading system and are so certain every other players loves it just as much as they do should have no issue with this.

    So your whole point with this was that you don't like the ESO economy system and want a WoW AH? Fair enough.
    But what kind of system a player prefer, isn't really the same as a broken or unfair system, is it?

    *Hug*
    Edited by Cogo on August 6, 2016 4:01PM
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  • Articulemort
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    You already have it. Wait for it....





    It's called Zone Chat on pc and area chat on console.
    *gasp*

    ok then remove guild shops totaly and open solo shops and for guilds will be only one trade zone: CHAT

    Haha what's the logic in that?

    You want a way for you, as a solo player, to sell items. You have one, zone/area chat. If you truly don't want to do so, and refuse to join a guild, you sol bud. Maybe you should just quit and play a different game since they won't change the current WORKING system anytime soon.

    I dare you to for once, actually state how the current system isn't working.
    Edited by Articulemort on August 6, 2016 3:30PM
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    esometric wrote: »
    hagermanj wrote: »
    I have read all the posts and found them very entertaining.
    I support the Trade Guild system, and that the prices set are what people will pay ( called FREE MARKET ).

    esometric wrote: »
    i think better limitations for guild: tax what must pay guild owner for game server 80% from all what get guild, and guild shop can sell 5 items per day. or best wahay totaly take out guild shops and dont give for guild owners make money froim this and cheat people.

    I highlighted the section that does not make since. You say that a Guild Shop can only sell 5 items per day. Is that to one person or is it total sales per day. If it is 'sales per day' then you would never be able to find anything for sale because those 5 items would be sold witin minutes after the day changed ( whenever that time is ).

    He wants guild stores to either be taxed out of existence ("tax what must pay guild owner for game server 80% from all what get guild"), or effectively shut down by limiting them to 5 sales a day, or be shut down completely so that he can have an auction house.

    What is interesting is his allegation that guild traders "cheat" - though by definition they can't as they enact ZoS rules.

    It's also interesting that the objection some people have is that the system bleeds guilds dry, with trader slots continually changing because guilds can't afford to pay for them, and yet other people are objecting to the fact that there is no change over in trader ownership...

    They are upset because either their guild couldn't make enough sales to keep their trader, or couldn't raise enough funds to successfully bid for a trader.

    And because they can't have fun they don't want anyone to have any fun. It's that childish :(

    time to remove totaly crap guild stores from game will be best

    You can't have fun so nobody should have fun...

    When I was five my mother wouldn't have approved of that behaviour :)
  • Vipstaakki
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    Do you realize that AH would wreck trading guilds like mine? I am not willing to give up my main guild that is a social/trading guild. I have friends, memories and profits there. And we have such a nice atmosphere. Not going to give it up without doing my best to prevent AH.
  • Unsent.Soul
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    No you wont.... lol keep trying champ.
  • esometric
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    kids afraid if open solo shops in game they lost bussiness in guild stores noones come to join no will be more free gold and resurces.
  • Articulemort
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    You already have it. Wait for it....





    It's called Zone Chat on pc and area chat on console.
    *gasp*

    ok then remove guild shops totaly and open solo shops and for guilds will be only one trade zone: CHAT

    Haha what's the logic in that?

    You want a way for you, as a solo player, to sell items. You have one, zone/area chat. If you truly don't want to do so, and refuse to join a guild, you sol bud. Maybe you should just quit and play a different game since they won't change the current WORKING system anytime soon.

    I dare you to for once, actually state how the current system isn't working.

    change shops for solo, chat for guilds. maby you just quit this game stupid kid >? no ones ask change just give us solo shops and you stay with your guild shops then and be heppy.

    Again, kid, you ALREADY have a "solo shop."

    It's called Zone Chat....

    And I see you still can't create a coherent logical argument against the current system.
  • QUEZ420
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    Auction house plz ZOS!
  • QUEZ420
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    Eso sub only perk lol?
  • esometric
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    You already have it. Wait for it....





    It's called Zone Chat on pc and area chat on console.
    *gasp*

    ok then remove guild shops totaly and open solo shops and for guilds will be only one trade zone: CHAT

    Haha what's the logic in that?

    You want a way for you, as a solo player, to sell items. You have one, zone/area chat. If you truly don't want to do so, and refuse to join a guild, you sol bud. Maybe you should just quit and play a different game since they won't change the current WORKING system anytime soon.

    I dare you to for once, actually state how the current system isn't working.

    change shops for solo, chat for guilds. maby you just quit this game stupid kid >? no ones ask change just give us solo shops and you stay with your guild shops then and be heppy.

    Again, kid, you ALREADY have a "solo shop."

    It's called Zone Chat....

    And I see you still can't create a coherent logical argument against the current system.

    again chilldren chat is not a shop totaly broken brains kids in new generation of gamers, letschange shops will be solo and GUILDS can sell only in chat ok ? and after this we will say dont cry you have guild store in CHAT
  • TequilaFire
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    I think the current system needs some tweaking like being able to buy from all guilds in a central spot where they would still bid on slots if you will.
    All the defenders of the current system are sellers, selling is not the problem, buying is as it is a pain to travel all over Tamriel to find what you need.
  • esometric
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    I think the current system needs some tweaking like being able to buy from all guilds in a central spot where they would still bid on slots if you will.
    All the defenders of the current system are sellers, selling is not the problem, buying is as it is a pain to travel all over Tamriel to find what you need.
    I think the current system needs some tweaking like being able to buy from all guilds in a central spot where they would still bid on slots if you will.
    All the defenders of the current system are sellers, selling is not the problem, buying is as it is a pain to travel all over Tamriel to find what you need.

    i think all taxes what get guild owners from stores must go direct to zenimax and guild must dont get any silngle coin from trading.
  • Articulemort
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    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    esometric wrote: »
    this trading sytstem is worst ever, like this was only in soviet union. first mmo there solo player dnt have trade system.

    You realize trade system and player market system are 2 different types of trading right? If you don't like the player market system then use chatting in crowds to see if anyone is selling what you seek and then use good old fashioned direct trading.

    you realize that not all people so stupid that whant pay taxes for people who press 2 buttons and create guild in game ???

    If this is all it takes then create your guild, recruit 50+ people, scope out a shop, win bid on said shop, and profit.... Right?

    Your statement makes you look extremely naive.

    stay with your crap guild shops, other players whant solo trading system and we will get it.

    You already have it. Wait for it....





    It's called Zone Chat on pc and area chat on console.
    *gasp*

    ok then remove guild shops totaly and open solo shops and for guilds will be only one trade zone: CHAT

    Haha what's the logic in that?

    You want a way for you, as a solo player, to sell items. You have one, zone/area chat. If you truly don't want to do so, and refuse to join a guild, you sol bud. Maybe you should just quit and play a different game since they won't change the current WORKING system anytime soon.

    I dare you to for once, actually state how the current system isn't working.

    change shops for solo, chat for guilds. maby you just quit this game stupid kid >? no ones ask change just give us solo shops and you stay with your guild shops then and be heppy.

    Again, kid, you ALREADY have a "solo shop."

    It's called Zone Chat....

    And I see you still can't create a coherent logical argument against the current system.

    again chilldren chat is not a shop totaly broken brains kids in new generation of gamers, letschange shops will be solo and GUILDS can sell only in chat ok ? and after this we will say dont cry you have guild store in CHAT

    Ok fine. How will your "solo shops" work? What, 5 people per area can set them up? Or every single player in that area can set up a shop?

    How do you expect the game servers be able to handle that when they can't even handle players spamming skills in one area without players crashing?

    You say you can't find an items in the guild stores and you don't want to search for days to find a specific item?
    With solo shops, now you will literally have to search for days to find a item.

    And again, still NO logical and coherent argument against the current system. You want people to respect your ideas, make a coherent and logical argument against the current system then make a logical and coherent pitch for your idea.

    And zone chat not being a shop? I suppose the hundreds of thousands of gold and the hundreds of trades I've done in area chat never happened then...
    Edited by Articulemort on August 6, 2016 3:46PM
  • Cheveyo
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    Cogo wrote: »

    So your whole point with this was that you don't like the ESO economy system and want a WoW AH? Fair enough.
    But what kind of system a player prefer, isn't really the same as a broken or unfair system, is it?

    *Hug*



    Actually it is.
    If you can create a monopoly and own certain spots, nobody will ever be able to compete with you.

    Zenimax has essentially created a system where players need to min/max the guilds they join, instead of just doing things for fun.


    I mean, look at the reasons people have for wanting to keep the current system. It's purely because its benefiting them personally, not because the system is any good. And the reason they're so against changing the system is because they know giving everyone a fair shot will hinder their own ability to make money.
  • esometric
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    maby in real life need trade system like this then to if you whant buy food from shop you must register on this shop ?? more stupid thing i dont see never. Trade bussiness is for that guy who get this stuff what he sell not a stupid kid who press 2 buttons and creat a guild. And best system is solo trade shops with global search tool.
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