frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »How about using Spriggan http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Spriggan's+Thorns+Set with RM ?
Thanks!
Question. Does 5th piece proc on destro staff la/ha and crushing shock? It says weapon damage and those are weapon damage ^.^
Red mountain just does more dps in a real fight scenario. It was better when the damage was instant but it can still be a really nice set to use.SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »Sorry for necro-ing thread...
Why is Viper's Sting worse than Red Mountain?
From what I can see
They deal around the same proc damage, but Viper's Sting has double the cooldown.
However, Viper's Sting is a guaranteed proc.
Also, Viper's Sting can proc off ANY melee attack, while Red Mountain is any weapon ABILITY (though it means it can proc off ranged abilities)
But Viper's Sting is Poison Damage so it scales with CP while Red Mountain is Flame Damage so it doesn't scale with most Stam DPS CP.
Anyone explain this to me?
I've been using RMRed mountain just does more dps in a real fight scenario. It was better when the damage was instant but it can still be a really nice set to use.SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »Sorry for necro-ing thread...
Why is Viper's Sting worse than Red Mountain?
From what I can see
They deal around the same proc damage, but Viper's Sting has double the cooldown.
However, Viper's Sting is a guaranteed proc.
Also, Viper's Sting can proc off ANY melee attack, while Red Mountain is any weapon ABILITY (though it means it can proc off ranged abilities)
But Viper's Sting is Poison Damage so it scales with CP while Red Mountain is Flame Damage so it doesn't scale with most Stam DPS CP.
Anyone explain this to me?
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »His post was from 2016. Red Mountain sucks on stam now, let this stupid thread die
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »His post was from 2016. Red Mountain sucks on stam now, let this stupid thread die
Yeah totally sucks now, 3k dps from front bar only is complete garbage. Here's a parse from vMoL in CWC with a top score raidguild.
This is the single target selected on zhaj, it did about 800 more in total. It is a really strong set, not meta, but also not "stupid" as you say. You seem to, like many players nowadays, follow the "BiS or nothing" mentality, following others without testing...
Stamina warden dummy parse:
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »His post was from 2016. Red Mountain sucks on stam now, let this stupid thread die
Yeah totally sucks now, 3k dps from front bar only is complete garbage. Here's a parse from vMoL in CWC with a top score raidguild.
This is the single target selected on zhaj, it did about 800 more in total. It is a really strong set, not meta, but also not "stupid" as you say. You seem to, like many players nowadays, follow the "BiS or nothing" mentality, following others without testing...
Stamina warden dummy parse:
WoF is much better than Red Mountain and the proc is much more reliable.
I've been using RMRed mountain just does more dps in a real fight scenario. It was better when the damage was instant but it can still be a really nice set to use.SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »Sorry for necro-ing thread...
Why is Viper's Sting worse than Red Mountain?
From what I can see
They deal around the same proc damage, but Viper's Sting has double the cooldown.
However, Viper's Sting is a guaranteed proc.
Also, Viper's Sting can proc off ANY melee attack, while Red Mountain is any weapon ABILITY (though it means it can proc off ranged abilities)
But Viper's Sting is Poison Damage so it scales with CP while Red Mountain is Flame Damage so it doesn't scale with most Stam DPS CP.
Anyone explain this to me?
Colecovision wrote: »I've been using RMRed mountain just does more dps in a real fight scenario. It was better when the damage was instant but it can still be a really nice set to use.SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »Sorry for necro-ing thread...
Why is Viper's Sting worse than Red Mountain?
From what I can see
They deal around the same proc damage, but Viper's Sting has double the cooldown.
However, Viper's Sting is a guaranteed proc.
Also, Viper's Sting can proc off ANY melee attack, while Red Mountain is any weapon ABILITY (though it means it can proc off ranged abilities)
But Viper's Sting is Poison Damage so it scales with CP while Red Mountain is Flame Damage so it doesn't scale with most Stam DPS CP.
Anyone explain this to me?
How does briarhart stack up next to RM? I’m thinking stamblade and stamsorc.
Colecovision wrote: »I've been using RMRed mountain just does more dps in a real fight scenario. It was better when the damage was instant but it can still be a really nice set to use.SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »Sorry for necro-ing thread...
Why is Viper's Sting worse than Red Mountain?
From what I can see
They deal around the same proc damage, but Viper's Sting has double the cooldown.
However, Viper's Sting is a guaranteed proc.
Also, Viper's Sting can proc off ANY melee attack, while Red Mountain is any weapon ABILITY (though it means it can proc off ranged abilities)
But Viper's Sting is Poison Damage so it scales with CP while Red Mountain is Flame Damage so it doesn't scale with most Stam DPS CP.
Anyone explain this to me?
How does briarhart stack up next to RM? I’m thinking stamblade and stamsorc.
Its Mechanical Acuity or nothing on Stamblade atm
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »His post was from 2016. Red Mountain sucks on stam now, let this stupid thread die
Yeah totally sucks now, 3k dps from front bar only is complete garbage. Here's a parse from vMoL in CWC with a top score raidguild.
This is the single target selected on zhaj, it did about 800 more in total. It is a really strong set, not meta, but also not "stupid" as you say. You seem to, like many players nowadays, follow the "BiS or nothing" mentality, following others without testing...
Stamina warden dummy parse:
WoF is much better than Red Mountain and the proc is much more reliable.
No. It is a heavy armor set, which makes you lose stats and damage. In PvP you might be right, but not in PvE.
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »His post was from 2016. Red Mountain sucks on stam now, let this stupid thread die
Yeah totally sucks now, 3k dps from front bar only is complete garbage. Here's a parse from vMoL in CWC with a top score raidguild.
This is the single target selected on zhaj, it did about 800 more in total. It is a really strong set, not meta, but also not "stupid" as you say. You seem to, like many players nowadays, follow the "BiS or nothing" mentality, following others without testing...
Stamina warden dummy parse:
WoF is much better than Red Mountain and the proc is much more reliable.
No. It is a heavy armor set, which makes you lose stats and damage. In PvP you might be right, but not in PvE.
Way of Fire is a significantly better set, especially considering Red Mtn delay and potential for a boss to simply move out of its range. And what, never heard of using jewelry/weapon’s from a heavy set? I guess that’s why Alkosh sucks for tanks, because it’s medium armor...
Any why ruin the utility of mechanical acutity by running it with a proc set that is incapable of critical damage?
Colecovision wrote: »I've been using RMRed mountain just does more dps in a real fight scenario. It was better when the damage was instant but it can still be a really nice set to use.SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »Sorry for necro-ing thread...
Why is Viper's Sting worse than Red Mountain?
From what I can see
They deal around the same proc damage, but Viper's Sting has double the cooldown.
However, Viper's Sting is a guaranteed proc.
Also, Viper's Sting can proc off ANY melee attack, while Red Mountain is any weapon ABILITY (though it means it can proc off ranged abilities)
But Viper's Sting is Poison Damage so it scales with CP while Red Mountain is Flame Damage so it doesn't scale with most Stam DPS CP.
Anyone explain this to me?
How does briarhart stack up next to RM? I’m thinking stamblade and stamsorc.
Its Mechanical Acuity or nothing on Stamblade atm
You could use RM+Acuity+Stormfist for a really special build Should still dish out sufficient deeps..
SmellyUnlimited wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »His post was from 2016. Red Mountain sucks on stam now, let this stupid thread die
Yeah totally sucks now, 3k dps from front bar only is complete garbage. Here's a parse from vMoL in CWC with a top score raidguild.
This is the single target selected on zhaj, it did about 800 more in total. It is a really strong set, not meta, but also not "stupid" as you say. You seem to, like many players nowadays, follow the "BiS or nothing" mentality, following others without testing...
Stamina warden dummy parse:
WoF is much better than Red Mountain and the proc is much more reliable.
No. It is a heavy armor set, which makes you lose stats and damage. In PvP you might be right, but not in PvE.
Way of Fire is a significantly better set, especially considering Red Mtn delay and potential for a boss to simply move out of its range. And what, never heard of using jewelry/weapon’s from a heavy set? I guess that’s why Alkosh sucks for tanks, because it’s medium armor...
Any why ruin the utility of mechanical acutity by running it with a proc set that is incapable of critical damage?
WoF jewellery is still healthy man, that's why I said you lose stats. You can use two weapons + two heavy pieces and one ring/necklace, but that'll lose you dps. Post me a dps parse with wotf that outparses red mountain, then I'll believe you. Always deliver proof for claims you make here. I know what I'm talking about here, and opposed to you for example, I back my claims up with parses...
Red mountain range is 28m and it'll always hit the closest enemy, in a trial I didn't have a single encounter where it missed,. Red mountain has half the proc chance but no cooldown and hits harder. Especially the lack of a cooldown makes it stronger than wotf, which is technically limited in the amount of dps it does..
As for acuity + rm, simply doesn't matter. I said that it was a special build and nowhere claimed it'll be ideal, but with many other sets you'll also have critical bonuses that diminish the bonus from the acuity 5pc.