Azura's Star NA PC Thread

PenguinInACan

NedicWildling wrote: »

@PenguinInACan It's not my duty to bring you organized groups, that's for you to seek out. If you enjoy playing without a challenge that's on you, if you have fun like that cool. My initial comment was that people gave DR crap for running groups or organized groups in Azura, but ofc nobody mentions TM. Take my comment how you want, doesn't matter.

I've never had an issue with any organized group regardless of size coming to AZ. And I think you answered your own question in your previous comment. Nobody really cares who we are so nobody really complains.

kpittsniperb14_ESO

NedicWildling wrote: »

Cypriot122 wrote: »

Hiding? Everyone knows where we are and why. We are making so much AP, getting so many kills and having so much fun. You will have to tell all DC and EP to leave for me to leave!!

DR ran raids. We had a group of 18 yesturday because we joined with another AD group and it was a lot of fun.

You are hiding tho, under the excuse your gm doesn't like cp servers. Fairly sure you wouldn't be making "so much AP" if there was an organized group to counter that, most of that AP comes from that DC morning group but that doesn't matter cause everyone gets in on that. TM has been hiding in servers like this forever even back when TF wasn't main server, there was TM gate camping like the champs you are. TM has the biggest collection of high rank pvp players nobody has ever heard for a reason.

We don't need or want your respect, approval or permission to play wherever we like. We enjoy non CP for the same reasons everyone else appreciates it and will stay on Azuras for the duration. I personally couldn't care less whether or not this community believes that we are a capable group. For the record, we were playing EP on this campaign for the first 6 weeks coming back from BDO in an effort to help balance the population then DR and Bitaken;s group turned up so we switched back to AD. We have been playing together as a group since launch and are still going strong primarily because we are in it to have fun and try not to take this game as seriously as others apparently do.

TL DR: I don't care what you think

NedicWildling

kpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »

NedicWildling wrote: »

Cypriot122 wrote: »

Hiding? Everyone knows where we are and why. We are making so much AP, getting so many kills and having so much fun. You will have to tell all DC and EP to leave for me to leave!!

DR ran raids. We had a group of 18 yesturday because we joined with another AD group and it was a lot of fun.

You are hiding tho, under the excuse your gm doesn't like cp servers. Fairly sure you wouldn't be making "so much AP" if there was an organized group to counter that, most of that AP comes from that DC morning group but that doesn't matter cause everyone gets in on that. TM has been hiding in servers like this forever even back when TF wasn't main server, there was TM gate camping like the champs you are. TM has the biggest collection of high rank pvp players nobody has ever heard for a reason.

We don't need or want your respect, approval or permission to play wherever we like. We enjoy non CP for the same reasons everyone else appreciates it and will stay on Azuras for the duration. I personally couldn't care less whether or not this community believes that we are a capable group. For the record, we were playing EP on this campaign for the first 6 weeks coming back from BDO in an effort to help balance the population then DR and Bitaken;s group turned up so we switched back to AD. We have been playing together as a group since launch and are still going strong primarily because we are in it to have fun and try not to take this game as seriously as others apparently do.

TL DR: I don't care what you think

My respect was the last thing i was offering. You can keep stating reasons for playing in azura at the end of the day your guild plays there cause it's the path of least resistance which ofc to you leads to more fun, nothing wrong with that. Like i said before, my initial comment was that people including people in your guild gave DR crap for running groups or bigger groups than normal, found that quite funny when you do the same. If the fact that I wrote that triggered you enough to come reply then i guess you identify. On a even lighter note, too bad they fixed Stormknight you were def more competitive with it.

God_flakes

Wow all this juicy drama in Azura.

Rylana

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Cypriot122 wrote: »

Hiding? Everyone knows where we are and why. We are making so much AP, getting so many kills and having so much fun. You will have to tell all DC and EP to leave for me to leave!!

DR ran raids. We had a group of 18 yesturday because we joined with another AD group and it was a lot of fun.

We never ran more than 15 except on last emp keep defense when we had 20-24 for Patrick Scott

Stop with the disinformation, seriously, we were LUCKY if we ever had 18. (in fact the video we made for Legit's birthday was 21, and that was a special event sendoff as we were leaving the campaign)

So yeah, you guys like to claim you were so outnumbered, but tell me more about your 12-18 man groups running smackdab in the middle of frofondirzerg turning it into a 50v20 on DR even on our heaviest days.

The fact any of you had the audacity to expect me to limit our group size to 12 is still laughable as hell, considering I have yet to see TM win a fight vs DR when numbers are anywhere near even, unless you have emp + all the buffs. (still laughing about the day we killed 12 of you with nine + two pugs, and one of you sent me a tell complaining I had zerged you, you actually outnumbered US in that fight, gg)

Ya know, cause a fair fight to you is 12 TM with emp plus 30 more AD with siege, stomping the hell out of 10 guys four on one at Arrius or Farragut on keep defense.

Seriously, shut up. I lost all respect for your guild the moment you went back to AD just to outnumber the handful of EP that finally showed up on Azuras. Even with DR homed there, EP was always grossly outnumbered, but you still went back to AD to be on the "winning team"

I have no respect for that, and I never will.

Want an idea of respectable outnumbered gameplay? Go to Haderus on your AD toons and fight Pact Militia like we did all last week. But ya know, no zerg for you to fall back on there, sorta on your own.

Take a good HARD look at the group sizes in all of these clips, they vary anywhere from 6 to 16, which is what DR always runs, full raid? Get real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80ZlRrpxFkk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW6QN8xirGM

If you honestly believe we ride the backs of zergs to win all our fights/fight no opposition on equal ground you need to show me some proof. You've even run with us in the past on AD....Our tactics haven't changed, our leadership hasn't changed.

We get the same treatment every other organized guild gets on servers, flag a keep and a raid of pugs show up because it flags, and 85% of the time they won't be able to take the keep. Half of our nights are spent on the far sides of the map staying away from AD.

And why should we go play on Had for "respectable" gameplay? Rally up some 40 EP from Had and tell them to bring us the outnumbered fights we apparently don't know how to deal with. There is enough dynamic PvP on AZ to give us competition. We wipe to organized players and it doesn't bother us one bit.

All in all I know most of TM has never shown any resentment towards DR, or any other organized guild for that matter, so if you lost respect for us because you lost some outnumbered fights then I'm sorry.

NedicWildling wrote: »

Cypriot122 wrote: »

Hiding? Everyone knows where we are and why. We are making so much AP, getting so many kills and having so much fun. You will have to tell all DC and EP to leave for me to leave!!

DR ran raids. We had a group of 18 yesturday because we joined with another AD group and it was a lot of fun.

You are hiding tho, under the excuse your gm doesn't like cp servers. Fairly sure you wouldn't be making "so much AP" if there was an organized group to counter that, most of that AP comes from that DC morning group but that doesn't matter cause everyone gets in on that. TM has been hiding in servers like this forever even back when TF wasn't main server, there was TM gate camping like the champs you are. TM has the biggest collection of high rank pvp players nobody has ever heard for a reason.

So bring us some organized competition. We have never had any problem when we come up on some organization. We win some we lose some. And we've been playing away from whatever the "competitive" server is since Volendrung. If you think we are trash and nobody knows who we are go right ahead. The reason we've stuck together as a guild longer than any other PvP guild in the game is because we aren't competitive. We enjoy playing on AZ and if nobody knows who we are then we are fine keeping it that way.

TM lost my respect when they talked trash, expected us to limit group size to 12, and then came at us with stacks of AD players 50 deep + emperor at the goddamned EP gates. You even had people sending me tells badgering me about "zerging you down" when we were actually the smaller group at one point. I mean what the actual hell?

You could have switched to EP and balanced it but nope, you just wanted to screw over any competition present by trying to zerg us off the server, well done. We stayed through it all, beat AD down to a pulp, and then the DC overnight crew took over from there.

Frankly I got sick of spending half my day in tells listening to "elite players" badger me about group size while they are sitting on three bar/locked populations doing nothing to balance the map while we stood virtually alone (had some help from another ep guild when they came back from had, but by then it was too late)

Uncle Sheo

@NedicWildling if your source is @Rylana about us complaining they do tend to tell some great stories, I think we can all agree on that one.
Seems like there is a lot of hate and more to it than that.

Cypriot122

Not sure why people are so sad Sheo... I think we are really nice people!!

PenguinInACan

Rylana wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Cypriot122 wrote: »

Hiding? Everyone knows where we are and why. We are making so much AP, getting so many kills and having so much fun. You will have to tell all DC and EP to leave for me to leave!!

DR ran raids. We had a group of 18 yesturday because we joined with another AD group and it was a lot of fun.

We never ran more than 15 except on last emp keep defense when we had 20-24 for Patrick Scott

Stop with the disinformation, seriously, we were LUCKY if we ever had 18. (in fact the video we made for Legit's birthday was 21, and that was a special event sendoff as we were leaving the campaign)

So yeah, you guys like to claim you were so outnumbered, but tell me more about your 12-18 man groups running smackdab in the middle of frofondirzerg turning it into a 50v20 on DR even on our heaviest days.

The fact any of you had the audacity to expect me to limit our group size to 12 is still laughable as hell, considering I have yet to see TM win a fight vs DR when numbers are anywhere near even, unless you have emp + all the buffs. (still laughing about the day we killed 12 of you with nine + two pugs, and one of you sent me a tell complaining I had zerged you, you actually outnumbered US in that fight, gg)

Ya know, cause a fair fight to you is 12 TM with emp plus 30 more AD with siege, stomping the hell out of 10 guys four on one at Arrius or Farragut on keep defense.

Seriously, shut up. I lost all respect for your guild the moment you went back to AD just to outnumber the handful of EP that finally showed up on Azuras. Even with DR homed there, EP was always grossly outnumbered, but you still went back to AD to be on the "winning team"

I have no respect for that, and I never will.

Want an idea of respectable outnumbered gameplay? Go to Haderus on your AD toons and fight Pact Militia like we did all last week. But ya know, no zerg for you to fall back on there, sorta on your own.

Take a good HARD look at the group sizes in all of these clips, they vary anywhere from 6 to 16, which is what DR always runs, full raid? Get real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80ZlRrpxFkk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW6QN8xirGM

If you honestly believe we ride the backs of zergs to win all our fights/fight no opposition on equal ground you need to show me some proof. You've even run with us in the past on AD....Our tactics haven't changed, our leadership hasn't changed.

We get the same treatment every other organized guild gets on servers, flag a keep and a raid of pugs show up because it flags, and 85% of the time they won't be able to take the keep. Half of our nights are spent on the far sides of the map staying away from AD.

And why should we go play on Had for "respectable" gameplay? Rally up some 40 EP from Had and tell them to bring us the outnumbered fights we apparently don't know how to deal with. There is enough dynamic PvP on AZ to give us competition. We wipe to organized players and it doesn't bother us one bit.

All in all I know most of TM has never shown any resentment towards DR, or any other organized guild for that matter, so if you lost respect for us because you lost some outnumbered fights then I'm sorry.

NedicWildling wrote: »

Cypriot122 wrote: »

Hiding? Everyone knows where we are and why. We are making so much AP, getting so many kills and having so much fun. You will have to tell all DC and EP to leave for me to leave!!

DR ran raids. We had a group of 18 yesturday because we joined with another AD group and it was a lot of fun.

You are hiding tho, under the excuse your gm doesn't like cp servers. Fairly sure you wouldn't be making "so much AP" if there was an organized group to counter that, most of that AP comes from that DC morning group but that doesn't matter cause everyone gets in on that. TM has been hiding in servers like this forever even back when TF wasn't main server, there was TM gate camping like the champs you are. TM has the biggest collection of high rank pvp players nobody has ever heard for a reason.

So bring us some organized competition. We have never had any problem when we come up on some organization. We win some we lose some. And we've been playing away from whatever the "competitive" server is since Volendrung. If you think we are trash and nobody knows who we are go right ahead. The reason we've stuck together as a guild longer than any other PvP guild in the game is because we aren't competitive. We enjoy playing on AZ and if nobody knows who we are then we are fine keeping it that way.

TM lost my respect when they talked trash, expected us to limit group size to 12, and then came at us with stacks of AD players 50 deep + emperor at the goddamned EP gates. You even had people sending me tells badgering me about "zerging you down" when we were actually the smaller group at one point. I mean what the actual hell?

You could have switched to EP and balanced it but nope, you just wanted to screw over any competition present by trying to zerg us off the server, well done. We stayed through it all, beat AD down to a pulp, and then the DC overnight crew took over from there.

Frankly I got sick of spending half my day in tells listening to "elite players" badger me about group size while they are sitting on three bar/locked populations doing nothing to balance the map while we stood virtually alone (had some help from another ep guild when they came back from had, but by then it was too late)

When has someone explicitly told you to limit your groups...I would honestly like to know, because I don't remember that ever happening.

Imbalance is cycle of the game man...we played on Chillrend against the relentless DC zergs for months. We got hate tells when we ran 10 people. We've all played on opposing "buff" servers. We swapped back to AD when it looked like EP had some life. We didn't know they would die down that quick, and 90% of us were under lvl 40.

And don't get me started on trash talk. 2/3 of your post is trash talk. You can give it just as good as anyone else, and that isn't condescension. There have been people in every guild you or I have run in that will always talk trash. Its AvA...and I have never sent a hate tell to a single person, and wouldn't "have people send you tells."

If you guys could beat AD so easily then why did you leave? We know EP is low on AZ, but they continually ignore an equal pop DC to focus AD. That doesn't bother me, but if we get pushed we're gonna push back. And if there was a scroll behind that gate I'm surprised it was only 50 AD. Just like how we've seen the same number of DC at our gates.

And yeah, I'm sure TM specifically went back to AD because we didn't want competition. Fighting pugs/no organized guilds alongside the other EP guilds was a lot more fun than actually fighting the organized guilds.../s

Also, we've never claimed to be "elite" in any way that I can remember. We don't boast in forum posts and there are maybe 3 videos that made it to the forums, not counting the old nostalgia videos from the beginning of the game. The majority of whatever reputation we have, that we never wanted in the first place, is usually from other people in posts similar to the ones in I'm responding to.

Uncle Sheo

@Cypriot122 You only said that for comment #1000. Damn I should've waited before making my post!!!

Grunim

Cypriot122 wrote: »

Not sure why people are so sad Sheo... I think we are really nice people!!

Very nice people indeed. I approve of this message

Nihang

not enough erp everyone was invited to Vice's pleasure palace.

Cypriot122

Wait that was an invite to everyone? I'll only come if he loves me as hard as he loves me in cyrodiil.

Nihang

he is not one to turn down such a graceful request.

Mutagem

Would King Emeric approve?

jhharvest

PenguinInACan wrote: »

We know EP is low on AZ, but they continually ignore an equal pop DC to focus AD. That doesn't bother me, but if we get pushed we're gonna push back. And if there was a scroll behind that gate I'm surprised it was only 50 AD. Just like how we've seen the same number of DC at our gates.

EP ignores DC because the blue emp group is so much easier to deal with than the yellow emp group. Yellow emp group feels like it's 70% templars in heavy armour - they're hard enough to wipe when they don't have emp, so it's better to at least try to push them to prevent / shorten the emp reign. You can take that as a compliment, I guess.

cbaudersub17_ESO

jhharvest wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

We know EP is low on AZ, but they continually ignore an equal pop DC to focus AD. That doesn't bother me, but if we get pushed we're gonna push back. And if there was a scroll behind that gate I'm surprised it was only 50 AD. Just like how we've seen the same number of DC at our gates.

EP ignores DC because the blue emp group is so much easier to deal with than the yellow emp group. Yellow emp group feels like it's 70% templars in heavy armour - they're hard enough to wipe when they don't have emp, so it's better to at least try to push them to prevent / shorten the emp reign. You can take that as a compliment, I guess.

...and the times AD doesn't have emp, including times a DC emp is throned?

Ghostbane

The past few weeks homed in AZ has been a refreshing experience. It is so satisfying to activate an ability and whether it going off or not dependent on the amount of players near by isn't necessary.

EP does need a bit of help during the off hours, as DC and AD are well popped. Near finished leveling one!

cbaudersub17_ESO

Cypriot122 wrote: »

Wait that was an invite to everyone? I'll only come if he rapes me as hard as he rapes me in cyrodiil.

I can vouch that Vice kisses the corpse first and starts out gently. Sure it gets a little rigorous toward the end; but hey…come on.

Or maybe he reserves such treatment for slutty Bosmer.

Humphie

Ghostbane wrote: »

The past few weeks homed in AZ has been a refreshing experience. It is so satisfying to activate an ability and whether it going off or not dependent on the amount of players near by isn't necessary.

EP does need a bit of help during the off hours, as DC and AD are well popped. Near finished leveling one!

You know you too slow when ever a potato get's it done before you do! Ghostbae...Tsk Tsk

Agrippa_Invisus

Opening empty scroll gates during prime time.

You stay classy, AD of Azura's! That's one hell of a way to encourage EP puggies to stick around and continue to fight and provide competition for on the server.

You AD that were at BRK, then later opened the gates could've ... ya know... actually helped your faction at Alessia, and probably even swung the fight in their favor, but that PVDoor against the woefully underpopulated and underorganized EP left on Azura's just helps reiterate how much of a fair fight you really want.

Read: None.

Here's a hint: The problem EP were already in Alessia and weren't moving. You think you're going to dislodge Warlord "K" (as an example) from a good farm aside from just wiping him? No, you're not. Help flip the keep, do whatever you must there. Opening up empty scroll gates on the faction that has extreme trouble mustering numbers/guilds to help it is crap sportsmanship and commands nothing but disdain.

BTW, I enjoyed at least one 16K tick there.

cbaudersub17_ESO

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

The problem EP were already in Alessia and weren't moving. You think you're going to dislodge Warlord "K" (as an example) from a good farm aside from just wiping him? No, you're not. Help flip the keep, do whatever you must there. Opening up empty scroll gates on the faction that has extreme trouble mustering numbers/guilds to help it is crap sportsmanship and commands nothing but disdain.

If I recall correctly, the siege attempt on the EP-held Alessia happened when all factions were at 3-bars population or better. Sounds to me EP made a tactical decision to farm Alessia. Other parts of the map do not remain static just because all of EP chose to hold up in one keep.

Agrippa_Invisus

cbaudersub17_ESO wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

The problem EP were already in Alessia and weren't moving. You think you're going to dislodge Warlord "K" (as an example) from a good farm aside from just wiping him? No, you're not. Help flip the keep, do whatever you must there. Opening up empty scroll gates on the faction that has extreme trouble mustering numbers/guilds to help it is crap sportsmanship and commands nothing but disdain.

If I recall correctly, the siege attempt on the EP-held Alessia happened when all factions were are 3-bars population or better. Sounds to me EP made a tactical decision to farm Alessia. Other parts of the map do not remain static just because all of EP chose to hold up in one keep.

You mis-recall. EP was two bars the majority of the time I was on Azura's. Part of why I guested over.

'the rest of the map isn't static' is the PVDoorer's refrain I've been hearing since Bloodthorn. You get no AP, and receive no credit for it. AD gated PUGs that were trying to go to IC or just small man fight.

It's despicable behavior and deserves the razzing I'm providing.

It's no better than PM flipping Black Boot on Haderus when AD has no scrolls.

lepemetus

To sum up this thread:
"Grrr! Other groups/pugs/solo players are doing things I disagree with based on my personal views of what Cyrodiil should be! Grrr!"

God_flakes

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

cbaudersub17_ESO wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

The problem EP were already in Alessia and weren't moving. You think you're going to dislodge Warlord "K" (as an example) from a good farm aside from just wiping him? No, you're not. Help flip the keep, do whatever you must there. Opening up empty scroll gates on the faction that has extreme trouble mustering numbers/guilds to help it is crap sportsmanship and commands nothing but disdain.

If I recall correctly, the siege attempt on the EP-held Alessia happened when all factions were are 3-bars population or better. Sounds to me EP made a tactical decision to farm Alessia. Other parts of the map do not remain static just because all of EP chose to hold up in one keep.

You mis-recall. EP was two bars the majority of the time I was on Azura's. Part of why I guested over.

'the rest of the map isn't static' is the PVDoorer's refrain I've been hearing since Bloodthorn. You get no AP, and receive no credit for it. AD gated PUGs that were trying to go to IC or just small man fight.

It's despicable behavior and deserves the razzing I'm providing.

It's no better than PM flipping Black Boot on Haderus when AD has no scrolls.

Did you leave TF to go over? I don't blame you. TF was absolutely disgusting last night.

Agrippa_Invisus

God_flakes wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

cbaudersub17_ESO wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

The problem EP were already in Alessia and weren't moving. You think you're going to dislodge Warlord "K" (as an example) from a good farm aside from just wiping him? No, you're not. Help flip the keep, do whatever you must there. Opening up empty scroll gates on the faction that has extreme trouble mustering numbers/guilds to help it is crap sportsmanship and commands nothing but disdain.

If I recall correctly, the siege attempt on the EP-held Alessia happened when all factions were are 3-bars population or better. Sounds to me EP made a tactical decision to farm Alessia. Other parts of the map do not remain static just because all of EP chose to hold up in one keep.

You mis-recall. EP was two bars the majority of the time I was on Azura's. Part of why I guested over.

'the rest of the map isn't static' is the PVDoorer's refrain I've been hearing since Bloodthorn. You get no AP, and receive no credit for it. AD gated PUGs that were trying to go to IC or just small man fight.

It's despicable behavior and deserves the razzing I'm providing.

It's no better than PM flipping Black Boot on Haderus when AD has no scrolls.

Did you leave TF to go over? I don't blame you. TF was absolutely disgusting last night.

Yes. EP was doing just fine on TF last night. Went to help out on Azura's a touch. Just me and a couple friends.

Stridig

A group of us have come from BwB and are playing Azura's on a regular basis. We have had a blast! We have also learned quite a bit from some of the other groups we have fought. There are some VERY good players our there. Good times.

Heike

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Opening empty scroll gates during prime time.
...That's one hell of a way to encourage EP puggies to stick around..."

"You AD that were at BRK...could've ...helped your faction at Alessia..."

"...woefully underpopulated and underorganized EP left on Azura's..."

"Here's a hint: The problem EP were already in Alessia and weren't moving."

I knew THIS whining was coming.

When all 3 factions were at 3 bars (which was most of the weekend), AD and DC were involved in four 50v50 epic battles, that lasted a total of 6 hours. And what did EP do? Attack Chalman or BRK or Roe? Nope... you clowns spent the time camping at Vlasterus, Cropsford and the Allessia bridge. You even sent a raid to BB, to attack a keep that that didn't even have your scroll! lol?

When you COULD'VE helped AD dethrone DC on Friday by attacking Chalman, you instead chose to attack AD at TWO separate keeps! LOL?

Are you serious?!?!?

As far as EP being unorganized, there were PLENTY of veteran players on all weekend. If they chose to run clear across the map to farm AP, well...
that's not our fault.

AD wiped to DC several times. (Yes, @Nihang I saw the kiss you blew me lol).
But at least we pushed. When the map was blue and DC were at poplock for 18 hours on Saturday, you didn't see us riding all the way north and hitting Dragonclaw... just sayin.

And... AD had to deal with Deltia's group, along with CBs, which focused us, not EP. The Pact had to deal with NPCs at Cropsford... there's a difference.

As for raids: Queens Eyes wasn't even on. Firebeard's guild had to run with RoB, to have a group of 20. The rest of AD were, quite literally, pugs running around aimlessly, shooting everything they saw. @Kartalin even ran with us, because TM wasn't on. So, the talk about unorganized groups won't carry too far here, friend.

Here's a tip: Spend less time hate-telling and teabagging, and more time attacking keeps when you have an opening for hours.

(And be proud of your 16k farming tick, I guess?)

RavenRoxie

W0lf_z13

def had some great and fun fights this weekend

Agrippa_Invisus

Heike wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Opening empty scroll gates during prime time.
...That's one hell of a way to encourage EP puggies to stick around..."

"You AD that were at BRK...could've ...helped your faction at Alessia..."

"...woefully underpopulated and underorganized EP left on Azura's..."

"Here's a hint: The problem EP were already in Alessia and weren't moving."

I knew THIS was coming.

When all 3 factions were at 3 bars (which was most of the weekend), AD and DC were involved in four 50v50 epic battles, that lasted a total of 6 hours. And what did EP do? Attack Chalman or BRK or Roe? Nope... you clowns spent the time camping at Vlasterus, Cropsford and the Allessia bridge. You even sent a raid to BB, to attack a keep that that didn't even have your scroll! lol?

When you COULD'VE helped AD dethrone DC on Friday by attacking Chalman, you instead chose to attack AD at TWO separate keeps! LOL?

Are you serious?!?!?

As far as EP being unorganized, there were PLENTY of veteran players on all weekend. If they chose to run clear across the map to farm AP, well...
that's not our fault.

AD wiped to DC several times. (Yes, @Nihang I saw the kiss you blew me lol).
But at least we pushed. When the map was blue and DC were at poplock for 18 hours on Saturday, you didn't see us riding all the way north and hitting Dragonclaw... just sayin.

And... AD had to deal with Deltia's group, along with CBs, which focused us, not EP. The Pact had to deal with NPCs at Cropsford... there's a difference.

As for raids: Queens Eyes wasn't even on. Firebeard's guild had to run with RoB, to have a group of 20. The rest of AD were, quite literally, pugs running around aimlessly, shooting everything they saw. @Kartalin even ran with us, because TM wasn't on. So, the talk about unorganized groups won't carry too far here, friend.

So... what I'm seeing here is all excuses for bad behavior. 'Yes, we know gating is cruddy, but we did it anyways because of this list of excuses'.

Here's a tip: Spend less time hate-telling and teabagging, and more time attacking keeps when you have an opening for hours.

(And be proud of your 16k farming tick, I guess?)

Please let me know when and where you received a hate tell or teabag from myself. Provide screenshots if you can. (here's a hint, you can't, you're instead generalizing while referring to a specific player).

And yes, because the AD that died in Alessia were a thumb in the eye of the PVDoorers.

Here's another hint: I did try to defend Arrius, BRK, and Sejanus through the back capping, but had few others with me when and if I got there in time. I ended up stuck at Alessia with everyone else. With no inner triangle ALL the EP just deathported to Alessia with only a small group that went after Farragut. If the goal was to get EP out of Alessia it backfired, instead stacking them there.

Here's a third hint - leaving the gate keeps to a faction gives pugs a reason to NOT go to the big AP farm in the AD home keep.