Azura's Star NA PC Thread

God_flakes

Robbmrp wrote: »

Luckily this group was still at it last night when I logged into PVP. They were attacking BB, I tossed up a cold fire and just watched them melt. They musta all been witches because that cold fire just wrecked them.....That and my Vic Death set : MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<COUGH>HAHAHAHAHA

VD+cold fire=Mass murder

Robbmrp

God_flakes wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

Luckily this group was still at it last night when I logged into PVP. They were attacking BB, I tossed up a cold fire and just watched them melt. They musta all been witches because that cold fire just wrecked them.....That and my Vic Death set : MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<COUGH>HAHAHAHAHA

VD+cold fire=Mass murder

@God_flakes too bad we can't get the mass murderer achievement this way. It would be completed in no time!

Talcyndl

God_flakes wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

Luckily this group was still at it last night when I logged into PVP. They were attacking BB, I tossed up a cold fire and just watched them melt. They musta all been witches because that cold fire just wrecked them.....That and my Vic Death set : MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<COUGH>HAHAHAHAHA

VD+cold fire=Mass murder

Hmmm....may have to pull out a VD set just for when I'm sieging the hordes.

Linkanton

The AD zerg is unreal rn.

Robbmrp

Linkanton wrote: »

The AD zerg is unreal rn.

There were a lot of AD on last night. Two factions were pop locked, not sure who the other one was. I had a great time in there pvping. We fought blue, red and then blue again when I left. Some great fights up at Ash last night for sure.

Heike

Robbmrp wrote: »

Linkanton wrote: »

The AD zerg is unreal rn...

There were a lot of AD on last night...

There were 53 DC and 59 AD, at the Ash and Aleswell large battle, +/- 2-3. Don't know about the Chalman fight.

Even though AD lost the attack on Aleswell, when DC zerged up the stairs, that was a blast and a show of pure power and organization by DC. Zerg v. Zerg. Epic fight! Loved it, and can't even imagine the D tick for DC! lol

Didn't see much of EP on at all, but they had 3 bars when AD hit BRK.

Epic night for all 3 factions, imo.

Kartalin

A lot of EP left. I don't know if they got tired after farming DC at Rayles for an hour or if they were dismayed after pushing AD to where we held just a single keep, Black Boot, only to see us push back and get emp when all factions were at 3 bars or locked.

And all three factions were locked simultaneously for a bit. Unfortunately none of us know what percentage of our forces were down in IC not contributing to the war effort.

Kartalin

Also, good try by DC trying to take Aleswell while we were taking Chalman as the last emp keep. Right as emp was crowned you had just taken one of the two flags at Ales.

Frofondir-Firebeard

Can someone explain to me how Radiant Destruction can hit this hard in a non-CP campaign? Two different players, two different days. @yodased @Robbmrp

Heike

Kartalin wrote: »

Right as emp was crowned, you had just taken one of the two flags at Ales.

OMG! Was that not crazy! AD emped with (literally) 2 seconds left. Like... not joking: 2 seconds. lol

IxSTALKERxI

nicholas.j.romeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Can someone explain to me how Radiant Destruction can hit this hard in a non-CP campaign? Two different players, two different days. @yodased @Robbmrp

Death recaps add up damage over times and display them on your recap as one value.

Example: If a batswarm ticks for only 3k damage and you stand in it for 5 seconds it'll be displayed on your death recap as a 15k devouring swarm.

CyrusArya

nicholas.j.romeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Can someone explain to me how Radiant Destruction can hit this hard in a non-CP campaign? Two different players, two different days. @yodased @Robbmrp

To add to what the other guy said, radiant in particular has a very misleading recap, and if they adjusted that the perception of how op this skill is would go down. The vast majority of that damage is overflow, you probably only had like 2k health when it ticked for 8k for example+ the rest of the channel.

Another thing is, if you heal while having a beam on you and then it still executes you, that further exaggerates the recap value.

Magus

nicholas.j.romeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Can someone explain to me how Radiant Destruction can hit this hard in a non-CP campaign? Two different players, two different days. @yodased @Robbmrp

Do you notice the endless fury explosion? That means you were already under 20% and that proc will often by almost enough to kill you. So, you probably only had a couple thousand HP left when you were hit by the radiant, so it showed a really high amount based on the scaling. You didn't actually take that much damage because you didn't have that much health to lose.

yodased

This is the problem with a recap, it shows you the potential damage of the radiant, not the actual damage.

So it ticked for 15k total damage on you, but it didn't tick the entire time. They should show each tick's damage like

15k total damage, but 3k for 5seconds or something, it would be much better that way.

The other DOTs work this way too, if I hit you with rock > meteor you are going to see two hits, one of the initial then one of the dot.

Should be like that for all channels/dots, but its not.

Magus

You could also install addon like recount or combat log statistics if you want a clearer breakdown.

Linkanton

Kartalin wrote: »

Also, good try by DC trying to take Aleswell while we were taking Chalman as the last emp keep. Right as emp was crowned you had just taken one of the two flags at Ales.

Yeah man must've been an epic moment for you guys. We tried to rush it but you guys got the keep 1st. Azura's is such a blast!

and yeah, during that time the large portion of DC on, the japanese group, were farming the sewers center.

ZOS_DaryaK

We've removed the last few posts from this discussion due to their inflammatory nature. We expect some trash talk and razzing in the PVP forums, but referring to an entire faction as "cancer" or "pathetic" is going too far. Please keep a modicum of civility in your posts so we don't need to shut down this discussion.

KenaPKK

"Razzing." I like it.

Frofondir-Firebeard

ZOS_DaryaK wrote: »

We've removed the last few posts from this discussion due to their inflammatory nature. We expect some trash talk and razzing in the PVP forums, but referring to an entire faction as "cancer" or "pathetic" is going too far. Please keep a modicum of civility in your posts so we don't need to shut down this discussion.

So you can have mods for the forums, but you can't have mods in the game? You only have 4 PVP servers. If you thoughT this was bad enough to delete some posts over, put some actual "GAME MASTERS" that you grace out load screens with in the "ACTUAL GAME". This is mild compared to what gets said in zone chat in Azura Star for all players of all levels to see.

God_flakes

Frofondir-Firebeard wrote: »

ZOS_DaryaK wrote: »

We've removed the last few posts from this discussion due to their inflammatory nature. We expect some trash talk and razzing in the PVP forums, but referring to an entire faction as "cancer" or "pathetic" is going too far. Please keep a modicum of civility in your posts so we don't need to shut down this discussion.

So you can have mods for the forums, but you can't have mods in the game? You only have 4 PVP servers. If you thoughT this was bad enough to delete some posts over, put some actual "GAME MASTERS" that you grace out load screens with in the "ACTUAL GAME". This is mild compared to what gets said in zone chat in Azura Star for all players of all levels to see.

Darya has no control over what zos does in game.

Chuga_Rei

Crickey, thats a lot of AD.

Talcyndl

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

Crickey, thats a lot of AD.

Would have helped if DC had left Chalman alone and turned south. EP was pushing AD, had taken Alessia and then had to split forces to defend both Alessia (which we lost right before I logged around 11 eastern) and Chalman (which I'm guessing we lost shortly after).

Kryptonite_Kent

Radiant, even in non CP, ticks VERY high at low health... without looking at my stats since its maint right now I believe my base damage on it is 14-15K over 2.8 seconds (3 ticks). Now, the lower your health is and the more magic I have can multiply this by 350%, so lets go with 14K... at max damage its doing 49K over 2.8 seconds, cut that in half for pvp so that 24,500, factor in armor reduction (lets say 28% for average) and that leaves you with 17, 640 damage over 2.8 seconds. So there you go Firebeard, that's how you're seeing those big hits... oh and that wasn't even factoring in if it hit as a crit lol. So if you break that down over the 3 hits (approx. 1 per second) its a whopping 5880 dps, maybe 6K tops non crit, not exactly that OP sounding now eh? I would get into the crit damage of it, but that's a lot of unknowns with how much impen the target has, etc... anyway the point is its not really as OP as everyone makes it out to be, especially since its blockable, cleansable, shieldable, los'able, does less damage at higher health... basically its a matter of people not understanding how to counter it or not knowing when to back away far enough to stay out of range, much like I, being ranged, don't go charging into melee range when I am almost dead and then cry that I got hit by reverse slice.

For those who don't understand how radiant bonus damage works... its 330% bonus damage SCALED below 50% health, so you have to look at it as a sliding damage bonus, the less health the player has under 50% the higher of the 330% bonus you get and vice-versa, its not auto 330%... same with the 20% bonus from the morph, its based on your amount of magicka when you cast it.

Caza99

Kryptonite_Kent wrote: »

Radiant, even in non CP, ticks VERY high at low health... without looking at my stats since its maint right now I believe my base damage on it is 14-15K over 2.8 seconds (3 ticks). Now, the lower your health is and the more magic I have can multiply this by 350%, so lets go with 14K... at max damage its doing 49K over 2.8 seconds, cut that in half for pvp so that 24,500, factor in armor reduction (lets say 28% for average) and that leaves you with 17, 640 damage over 2.8 seconds. So there you go Firebeard, that's how you're seeing those big hits... oh and that wasn't even factoring in if it hit as a crit lol.

Weren't you trying to tell me that there is nothing wrong with radiant like 2 days ago?

Kryptonite_Kent

Caza99 wrote: »

Kryptonite_Kent wrote: »

Radiant, even in non CP, ticks VERY high at low health... without looking at my stats since its maint right now I believe my base damage on it is 14-15K over 2.8 seconds (3 ticks). Now, the lower your health is and the more magic I have can multiply this by 350%, so lets go with 14K... at max damage its doing 49K over 2.8 seconds, cut that in half for pvp so that 24,500, factor in armor reduction (lets say 28% for average) and that leaves you with 17, 640 damage over 2.8 seconds. So there you go Firebeard, that's how you're seeing those big hits... oh and that wasn't even factoring in if it hit as a crit lol.

Weren't you trying to tell me that there is nothing wrong with radiant like 2 days ago?

Theres not... if you break down the hits (I edited my comment for further clarification) the DPS from it is not really that high as it might seem. You're seeing 17,640 over the full channel, but DPS on that is only 5.8 -6K, not exactly some OP attack considering theres plenty of attacks that hit well above that on a single hit. (and remember that 17,640 is MAX damage potential factoring the entire 350% bonus, which is assuming I have 100% magicka and you have like 1% health)

Caza99

Kryptonite_Kent wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Kryptonite_Kent wrote: »

Radiant, even in non CP, ticks VERY high at low health... without looking at my stats since its maint right now I believe my base damage on it is 14-15K over 2.8 seconds (3 ticks). Now, the lower your health is and the more magic I have can multiply this by 350%, so lets go with 14K... at max damage its doing 49K over 2.8 seconds, cut that in half for pvp so that 24,500, factor in armor reduction (lets say 28% for average) and that leaves you with 17, 640 damage over 2.8 seconds. So there you go Firebeard, that's how you're seeing those big hits... oh and that wasn't even factoring in if it hit as a crit lol.

Weren't you trying to tell me that there is nothing wrong with radiant like 2 days ago?

Theres not... if you break down the hits (I edited my comment for further clarification) the DPS from it is not really that high as it might seem. You're seeing 17,640 over the full channel, but DPS on that is only 5.8 -6K, not exactly some OP attack considering theres plenty of attacks that hit well above that on a single hit.

.....are you sure you're playing the same game?

Kryptonite_Kent

Caza99 wrote: »

Kryptonite_Kent wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Kryptonite_Kent wrote: »

Radiant, even in non CP, ticks VERY high at low health... without looking at my stats since its maint right now I believe my base damage on it is 14-15K over 2.8 seconds (3 ticks). Now, the lower your health is and the more magic I have can multiply this by 350%, so lets go with 14K... at max damage its doing 49K over 2.8 seconds, cut that in half for pvp so that 24,500, factor in armor reduction (lets say 28% for average) and that leaves you with 17, 640 damage over 2.8 seconds. So there you go Firebeard, that's how you're seeing those big hits... oh and that wasn't even factoring in if it hit as a crit lol.

Weren't you trying to tell me that there is nothing wrong with radiant like 2 days ago?

Theres not... if you break down the hits (I edited my comment for further clarification) the DPS from it is not really that high as it might seem. You're seeing 17,640 over the full channel, but DPS on that is only 5.8 -6K, not exactly some OP attack considering theres plenty of attacks that hit well above that on a single hit.

.....are you sure you're playing the same game?

I think the problem here is you, I go up against plenty of people who know how to counter beam very efficiently and I cant just sit there and hit beam and proceed to enjoy the AP... the people who get wrecked by beam are the people who seem to think they don't need to counter anything or use any of kind of strategy other than 'rush the ranged magic guy and plow his face' lol. I promise you its a L2P problem, people need to learn how to self sustain and counter specific attacks, beam being one of them.

Kartalin

Dateline Aleswell, Sept 1st, 10 pm central time. No emp, DC and AD locked with EP 3 bars, 10 of our group members present, and no pugs.

https://youtu.be/rPoFApkWfM4

Edit: including the d-tick that came after the end of the video, 24k AP in just over 10 minutes
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Uncle Sheo

Oh man. Had no idea you play in 1st person!

Kartalin

I've actually been playing more in 3rd person lately, trying to adjust, but outside of pve I don't feel as comfortable yet.