Item Sets Available from Rewards for the Worthy Bags & AP Vendors

Birdovic

NBrookus wrote: »

These are still BoE, right? I'd strongly prefer to be able to buy the item I want, or at least the correct set, but if they are BoE they can be traded or sold.

I hope so, PvP'ers can earn some gold with that, too

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Also another question:

Will we ever see a Necropotence Set at V16? ^^

Kal'Thalar

My Jimmy- Has been officially rustled.

Super awesome change, and glad to see the possible outcomes of build types. Granted, the one shots to be born once more will be annoying, but hey- you win some, you lose some.

What would be a great addition to this is to include Purple/Gold Improvement mats in the PTS that are not just for blacksmithing, so that we can test out numbers and what the end result stats would be like.

Birdovic

Sublime wrote: »

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Sublime wrote: »

Basically I really like that we're finally able to get all those sets in CP160. Unfortunately it will be extremely difficult to get ones hand on the desired set since the loot-tables are so big.

• 8 different sets
• 5 different armor parts
• 4 different traits (impenetrable, reinforced, divine & infused)

That's a total of 160 different lootable items.
So if you want a specific piece you have to be ready to invest 20'000 * 160 = 3'200'000 AP.

You should read it again. if you lets say, want the Set "Alessian Order", you go for this:

DEFENSIVE HEAVY BOX
Alessian Order
Bastion of the Heartland
Beckoning Steel
Blessing of the Potentates
Crest of Cyrodiil
Deadly Strike
Durok's Bane
The Juggernaut

I understand it the following way: The Elite Gear Vendor sells a box called "Defensive Heavy Box". This box contains one piece of the 8 named sets.

So which part of this is wrong? Does one box drop more than one item or can you select which set is dropped?

The 4 different traits part (for now) is wrong. All of the quoted Sets in the defensive heavy box come with a fixed trait, so your chances arent that awful (more like 8*5 instead of 8*5*4). But we need to wait and see, if more traits will lower the chance.

Personally, I'd prefer more Traits BUT remove the non-set items from possible Drops at the same time.

Sublime

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Sublime wrote: »

andypappb16_ESO wrote: »

Sublime wrote: »

Basically I really like that we're finally able to get all those sets in CP160. Unfortunately it will be extremely difficult to get ones hand on the desired set since the loot-tables are so big.

• 8 different sets
• 5 different armor parts
• 4 different traits (impenetrable, reinforced, divine & infused)

That's a total of 160 different lootable items.
So if you want a specific piece you have to be ready to invest 20'000 * 160 = 3'200'000 AP.

You should read it again. if you lets say, want the Set "Alessian Order", you go for this:

DEFENSIVE HEAVY BOX
Alessian Order
Bastion of the Heartland
Beckoning Steel
Blessing of the Potentates
Crest of Cyrodiil
Deadly Strike
Durok's Bane
The Juggernaut

I understand it the following way: The Elite Gear Vendor sells a box called "Defensive Heavy Box". This box contains one piece of the 8 named sets.

So which part of this is wrong? Does one box drop more than one item or can you select which set is dropped?

The 4 different traits part (for now) is wrong. All of the quoted Sets in the defensive heavy box come with a fixed trait, so your chances arent that awful (more like 8*5 instead of 8*5*4). But we need to wait and see, if more traits will lower the chance.

Which one, and does it vary from box to box? (The last time I tested it was on patch 2.4.0, where I recieved the 4 named traits)

Birdovic

Basically I really like that we're finally able to get all those sets in CP160. Unfortunately it will be extremely difficult to get ones hand on the desired set since the loot-tables are so big.
8 different sets
5 different armor parts
4 different traits (impenetrable, reinforced, divine & infused)

Thats what you wrote o.o

KenaPKK

What about jewelry? Pretty pretty please expand all of these sets to contain jewelry and weapon options. >.<

WTB maximum build diversity!

KenaPKK

heystreethawk wrote: »

Thank you for the update! Will the traits on these be random? If so, will the jewelry be random traited too? Sorry if I missed that info in the post!

Ew, I hope that the jewelry traits are fixed to either Robust for stamina and tanky-oriented sets and Arcane for magicka-oriented sets, or alternating between those two for sets that don't fall one way or the other (like Bahraha's Curse currently does).

Healthy jewelry is honestly never useful compared to those since we can obtain health so easily compared to resources and since resources play a greater role in PvP, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

I do hope the armor comes in random combat stat traits, though, so that we are free to theory craft into all the different traits and their new usefulness.

Birdovic

Oh and something else:

Can we please PLEASE have back the Tier 1 Master Weapons at V 16?

Ishammael

This is great news!

Question: will these sets have full jewelry and weapon options?

Sallington

100% Best thing coming out of the DB patch by a wide margin. Thank you ZOS for listening.

olsborg

I hope that the sets that come in jewlery in these thematic boxes have a chance of dropping purple jewlery, or it is as someone said, kinda bittersweet as we are all somewhat min maxers, but hey, this is a very good addition to cyrodiil:) thanks

OdinForge

This is very good news, finally a step in the right direction.

Ra'Shtar

If you do this for dungeon sets this is gonna be my level of excitement.

Essiaga

Wouldn't it be great if ZOS did something about Battle Spirit? Like balance Healing and Shields to not be based on stats that also increase DPS.

GreenSoup2HoT

SHADOWWALKER COME BACK TO ME! I'VE MISSED YOU!

In a future update, we may look into expanding the item slots and Traits that these item sets come in.

I really hope some of the 3 piece set's come in possible Armour pieces and other Weapon type's. For instance the Deadly Strike set only used to come in Rings and Two handed Sword. I would really love to see Daggers/Swords but also maybe a unique Armour Piece (Like the Mask of the Darkest Seducer Style).

There are so many rare single pieces of gear that have unique styles that could easily be a new item slot for some of these set's. A list of some of these gear items below.

Helmet of Anguish
Encasement of Anguish
Volar's Crescent Staff
Volar's Crescent Dagger
Mask of the Darkest Seducer
Glut Twin's-tail hat
Legging's of the Lamia Slayer

Etc Etc. There are many more unique Armour piece's in game that could be used. Some come from dungeons, quests and dolmens. There are probably many many more but these are the only one's i can think of at the top of my head.

DDuke

Well, this should shake the meta quite a bit...

One thing I'm curious about: are there going to be any changes to these item sets @ZOS_GinaBruno ?


For example, now that Ravager scales up to Champion Rank 160, the newer Fury set starts looking really unattractive if values stay the same.


Ravager (V14 values)
(2 items) Adds 672 Weapon Critical
(3 items) Adds 1039 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 126 Weapon Damage
5 items) Your melee attacks have an 8% chance to increase Weapon Damage by 630 for 10 seconds.

Fury:
(2 Items) Adds 1064 Maximum Health
(3 Items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(4 Items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 Items) When you take critical damage, your Weapon Damage is increased by 29 for 6 seconds. This effect can stack up to 20 times.


One lasts 10 seconds & you get instantly 600+ weapon damage at a reasonable proc chance, while the other set you have to work up to high value and then it lasts only 6 seconds (and it kind of makes slotting a damage shield impossible).

MikeB

Great. PvP get updated sets while PvE gets nothing. There's almost no way to earn gold as pure PvE. PvE sets are always BoP and more than not just junk anyway. PvE gets V14 dungeon sets locked behind a 12 man trial if you want V16, makes sense...

ManDraKE

omg, morag tong

DDuke wrote: »

One lasts 10 seconds & you get instantly 600+ weapon damage at a reasonable proc chance, while the other set you have to work up to high value and then it lasts only 6 seconds (and it kind of makes slotting a damage shield impossible).

even without ravager, fury set 5 pc bonus is awful.

WillhelmBlack

So you tell us this after I've just spent 750,000 AP on vr14 gear through fear of never obtaining them again. Nice one. GG ZOS

Grao

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

So you tell us this after I've just spent 750,000 AP on vr14 gear through fear of never obtaining them again. Nice one. GG ZOS

*pat pat* bad luck mate.

Curragraigue

I assume like they are now they will be BoE and not BoP.

WillhelmBlack

Grao wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

So you tell us this after I've just spent 750,000 AP on vr14 gear through fear of never obtaining them again. Nice one. GG ZOS

*pat pat* bad luck mate.

Well, we did ask in multiple threads for weeks. I heard nothing so last week I purchased the last 3 pieces I needed to complete a set, now they like "Oh, we forgot!".

WillhelmBlack

Grao wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

So you tell us this after I've just spent 750,000 AP on vr14 gear through fear of never obtaining them again. Nice one. GG ZOS

*pat pat* bad luck mate.

Well, we did ask in multiple threads for weeks. I heard nothing so last week I purchased the last 3 pieces I needed to complete a set, now they like "Oh, we forgot!".

Made them legendary as well, FS.

nudel

Thank you so much for putting these sets back in the game and thank you Jessica for alerting the community. I know a certain thread was starting to eat itself out of frustration.

CP5

Nice to hear more sets are being put to v16, far to many sets just aren't relevant because of this so this update is nice to know. But I hate rng, I dislike running maelstrom arena because you had the chance to just get nothing worth your time from a 'reward'. RNG trait + RNG set + RNG piece = excessive RNG as is, we do not need any more added, and if that RNG is 'you get garbage' than that non-set item should come with a healthy amount of ap to compensate.

Ajax_22

Jules wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

This is exactly why people complain about your communication. It's inexcusable that we had to sit around and wonder about this as long as we have. This post should have been made three weeks ago.

Just enjoy it dude. Take a chill pill.

I'm perfectly calm, and I'm just stating facts. ZOS has terrible communication and this is a perfect example of that. We should have been told about this when the Dark Brotherhood went to the PTS.

Additionally, you're not going to get me excited about ZOS updating sets that they should have nine months ago. Then placing those sets behind their terrible RNG system, and making all of the jewelry for those sets useless.

Sk000tch

Ajax_22 wrote: »

I'm perfectly calm, and I'm just stating facts. ZOS has terrible communication and this is a perfect example of that. We should have been told about this when the Dark Brotherhood went to the PTS.

Additionally, you're not going to get me excited about ZOS updating sets that they should have nine months ago. Then placing those sets behind their terrible RNG system, and making all of the jewelry for those sets useless.

I'm as salty as anyone but this is kinda ridiculous. Its still on PTS, that's the point of it. They're still not promising its coming to live, they are saying its coming to PTS next week incremental.

But ya, I am excited about the updated sets. Some of those old pvp sets are dope, great 2/3 piece bonuses, unique 5-pc. Tons of new build options and diversity. Ravager, Cyrodil's light, potentates, all so good.

You got a point about the jewelry though, kinda feels like we're getting trolled.

Mojmir

In before the complaints of pvp box RNG killing the game like maelstrom arena. LOL

CyrusArya

Oh man, poison DK gets better by the day. But really, this change is great news for all, very interesting doors have been opened for every single class and spec. Build Diversity+Something worth spending all that AP on+source of PvP income= win, win, win. Well done ZOS, best alliance war news in months. I just would like to make 3 humble requests: purple jewelry w/fixed traits+impen+BoE.

THBronx

Ajax_22 wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

This is exactly why people complain about your communication. It's inexcusable that we had to sit around and wonder about this as long as we have. This post should have been made three weeks ago.

Just enjoy it dude. Take a chill pill.

I'm perfectly calm, and I'm just stating facts. ZOS has terrible communication and this is a perfect example of that. We should have been told about this when the Dark Brotherhood went to the PTS.

Additionally, you're not going to get me excited about ZOS updating sets that they should have nine months ago. Then placing those sets behind their terrible RNG system, and making all of the jewelry for those sets useless.

So what do you want now?
No matter what happens, there are always those who exclusively look the negative side, some ppl just need to stop playing omfg....
And I doubt they are going to find a perfect game with a perfect dev team behind it....they are always jumping from game to game, forum to forum and all they do is complain.