Maintenance for EU

Moozzie

I assume bans will follow and items and gold will be retaken so the cheating players are not rewarded. The normal players are now the one being punished by not being able to play the game

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

Hmm, instead of banning the corrupt players, those that did not exploit should be rewarded.
Maybe a unique mount or so...

This would keep the honest honest, as there might be something to gain. :P

Buffler

Roymachine wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Incredible...they create an exploit because of their fault, and then we even have to suffer a 2 hours manteniance in peak hours friday...Couln't you have do it 4 hours ago for example??Or this morning??

How would you feel if they left the exploit go and in a few weeks you end up having to pay 50k for each gold mat you want? Thats what would happe

What? lol A massive influx of gold mats would drive the price down, not magically up. If there are a lot more in the market then price drops. If there is one gold mat in the market then it sells for 1 mil, if there are 1 mil gold mats in the market then it sells for.. 200?

You dont understand "cornering the market" you are referring to basic supply and demand, which isnt the case when a few people hold all the supply they can demand what they want.

VoiDGhOs7

Detector wrote: »

Where is hotfix for Vicious Death explote? Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRnfs6Hq278

Grey Area./period

Roymachine

r.groenb16_ESO wrote: »

Dear Zenimax,
it is Friday night, I have been working a long hard week and now I have weekend and wants to PLAY!

I have NO understanding for doing this primetime friday night, NO UNDERSTANDING!

Just because some people gathered some tempers, well when you had fixed it monday morning that should have been early enough I suppose!
But now you are stealing MY TIME!
I am ESO-Plusgamer, but that will not last very long any more!
I know you don´t care, but I doesn´t as well anymore!
You don´t do anything for those who pay, convenience is a rare word in ESO!

THE TRUTH IS: YOU HATE US!

Wait until monday? In a matter of hours players had accumulated 10s of thousands of resources and you want to leave it rolling all weekend? This is for the better for everyone. It's like a 'this is for your own good' moment whether you realize it or not.

Kilnerdyne

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Wonder if the exploiters will get their items removed from inventory and a slap on the wrist.. or will ZOS again prove the slogan: Exploit Early, Exploit Often!

We have data showing who has been exploiting, and will be taking the appropriate actions.

Put their toons in cages and display them inside the 3 major cities ( wayrest, mournhold, eldenroot ) and let us throw tomatos at them.

wesly.backersb16_ESO

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As mentioned in this thread, this is an unscheduled maintenance to address a current exploit. Our current plan is to wrap up PC maintenance within a couple hours, but we'll keep that thread up to date as each server is completed.

Couple HOURS? Good night I guess... Its 8pm in EU.

Good night!

Leandor

These people... Can't eat enough to be able to vomit as much as I want to. (and I'm talking about you, dear fellow players who complain about the downtime).

Thank you ZOS (@ZOS_GinaBruno in place of all other employees on the forum) for your very first time really quick and appropriate reaction upon discovery of an exploit. I only read today about its existence and you took down the servers to deploy a hotfix on the same day.

This is how it is supposed to be. Continue this. Even more promising is the first ever open admittance of disciplinary action targeted at exploiters. This is what I and many players like me have been waiting for for nigh on two years.

This time, the silent majority is firmly in your corner.

clocksstoppe

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Hmm, instead of banning the corrupt players, those that did not exploit should be rewarded.
Maybe a unique mount or so...

This would keep the honest honest, as there might be something to gain. :P

Yeah an economy in ruin is to gain if they don't punish abusers. They really have no choice but to wipe banks of all exploiters at the very least as a punishment to undo some of the damage.

ArvenAldmeri

Roymachine wrote: »

r.groenb16_ESO wrote: »

Dear Zenimax,
it is Friday night, I have been working a long hard week and now I have weekend and wants to PLAY!

I have NO understanding for doing this primetime friday night, NO UNDERSTANDING!

Just because some people gathered some tempers, well when you had fixed it monday morning that should have been early enough I suppose!
But now you are stealing MY TIME!
I am ESO-Plusgamer, but that will not last very long any more!
I know you don´t care, but I doesn´t as well anymore!
You don´t do anything for those who pay, convenience is a rare word in ESO!

THE TRUTH IS: YOU HATE US!

Wait until monday? In a matter of hours players had accumulated 10s of thousands of resources and you want to leave it rolling all weekend? This is for the better for everyone. It's like a 'this is for your own good' moment whether you realize it or not.

If I understood well the exploit has something to do with banker, which was added in game already loooong time ago. Surely 2 days would not make a huge difference anymore.

Bars

if they have the data they could have left it till later 2night no ?

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

Leandor wrote: »

These people... Can't eat enough to be able to vomit as much as I want to. (and I'm talking about you, dear fellow players who complain about the downtime).

Thank you ZOS (@ZOS_GinaBruno in place of all other employees on the forum) for your very first time really quick and appropriate reaction upon discovery of an exploit. I only read today about its existence and you took down the servers to deploy a hotfix on the same day.

This is how it is supposed to be. Continue this. Even more promising is the first ever open admittance of disciplinary action targeted at exploiters. This is what I and many players like me have been waiting for for nigh on two years.

This time, the silent majority is firmly in your corner.

Nicely said, but I still want a unique mount as reward for being a fair player. :P

InvitationNotFound

Leandor wrote: »

These people... Can't eat enough to be able to vomit as much as I want to. (and I'm talking about you, dear fellow players who complain about the downtime).

Thank you ZOS (@ZOS_GinaBruno in place of all other employees on the forum) for your very first time really quick and appropriate reaction upon discovery of an exploit. I only read today about its existence and you took down the servers to deploy a hotfix on the same day.

This is how it is supposed to be. Continue this. Even more promising is the first ever open admittance of disciplinary action targeted at exploiters. This is what I and many players like me have been waiting for for nigh on two years.

This time, the silent majority is firmly in your corner.

lol. just ignore the fact that all other exploits have completely been ignored (game breaking bugs aside). the time for the downtime es even the worse joke. it simply states that they don't care at all about the EU player base. just ***ing on their customers.

AnnieBeGood

Just wipe their banks? No. Ban them from the game. Their greed just ruined an evenings entertainment for possibly thousands of other gamers. Wiping their banks? No .... not enough.

Buffler

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

These people... Can't eat enough to be able to vomit as much as I want to. (and I'm talking about you, dear fellow players who complain about the downtime).

Thank you ZOS (@ZOS_GinaBruno in place of all other employees on the forum) for your very first time really quick and appropriate reaction upon discovery of an exploit. I only read today about its existence and you took down the servers to deploy a hotfix on the same day.

This is how it is supposed to be. Continue this. Even more promising is the first ever open admittance of disciplinary action targeted at exploiters. This is what I and many players like me have been waiting for for nigh on two years.

This time, the silent majority is firmly in your corner.

lol. just ignore the fact that all other exploits have completely been ignored (game breaking bugs aside). the time for the downtime es even the worse joke. it simply states that they don't care at all about the EU player base. just ***ing on their customers.

Just wow

RazielSR

Leandor wrote: »

These people... Can't eat enough to be able to vomit as much as I want to. (and I'm talking about you, dear fellow players who complain about the downtime).

Thank you ZOS (@ZOS_GinaBruno in place of all other employees on the forum) for your very first time really quick and appropriate reaction upon discovery of an exploit. I only read today about its existence and you took down the servers to deploy a hotfix on the same day.

This is how it is supposed to be. Continue this. Even more promising is the first ever open admittance of disciplinary action targeted at exploiters. This is what I and many players like me have been waiting for for nigh on two years.

This time, the silent majority is firmly in your corner.

Want some flowers to send? Or a rainbow would be enough?

Roymachine

Buffler wrote: »

Roymachine wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Incredible...they create an exploit because of their fault, and then we even have to suffer a 2 hours manteniance in peak hours friday...Couln't you have do it 4 hours ago for example??Or this morning??

How would you feel if they left the exploit go and in a few weeks you end up having to pay 50k for each gold mat you want? Thats what would happe

What? lol A massive influx of gold mats would drive the price down, not magically up. If there are a lot more in the market then price drops. If there is one gold mat in the market then it sells for 1 mil, if there are 1 mil gold mats in the market then it sells for.. 200?

You dont understand "cornering the market" you are referring to basic supply and demand, which isnt the case when a few people hold all the supply they can demand what they want.

But nothing has happened to the normal supply of these nor the normal sellers. There is an influx of gold tempers but they are put up for 50k? Nobody would be buying them as I can grab a couple an hour myself just by gathering mats. My time is not worth that and I doubt many people's time is. These people can 'corner the market' with or without having a load of gold tempers. Them getting a large amount of them doesn't take anything away from anyone else getting them legitly.

clocksstoppe

Bars wrote: »

if they have the data they could have left it till later 2night no ?

No because then if they trade these exploited materials to genuine players it becomes a nightmare to handle.

But i still think it's unacceptable for an emergency small bugfix to take a few hours to patch, like seriously?

Azurya

well I think those who exploited will get an donkey-skinn which cannot be removed
That is punishment the way Zenimax understands it!

Ah and they get a job-offer from Zenimax, because they are sooo bright!!

Roymachine

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

Roymachine wrote: »

r.groenb16_ESO wrote: »

Dear Zenimax,
it is Friday night, I have been working a long hard week and now I have weekend and wants to PLAY!

I have NO understanding for doing this primetime friday night, NO UNDERSTANDING!

Just because some people gathered some tempers, well when you had fixed it monday morning that should have been early enough I suppose!
But now you are stealing MY TIME!
I am ESO-Plusgamer, but that will not last very long any more!
I know you don´t care, but I doesn´t as well anymore!
You don´t do anything for those who pay, convenience is a rare word in ESO!

THE TRUTH IS: YOU HATE US!

Wait until monday? In a matter of hours players had accumulated 10s of thousands of resources and you want to leave it rolling all weekend? This is for the better for everyone. It's like a 'this is for your own good' moment whether you realize it or not.

If I understood well the exploit has something to do with banker, which was added in game already loooong time ago. Surely 2 days would not make a huge difference anymore.

But it does when people have literally gone into area chat in main cities telling everyone about an exploit. If it was a normal 2 days like it was last week then your point would be valid, but it is another 2 days of an exploit that is only becoming more widespread by the hour.

Buffler

clocksstoppe wrote: »

Bars wrote: »

if they have the data they could have left it till later 2night no ?

No because then if they trade these exploited materials to genuine players it becomes a nightmare to handle.

But i still think it's unacceptable for an emergency small bugfix to take a few hours to patch, like seriously?

How can you possibly know the extent of the coding needed to fix this issue. Every line of code has an impact on every other, tests need to be done etc

Glamdring

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

If I understood well the exploit has something to do with banker, which was added in game already loooong time ago. Surely 2 days would not make a huge difference anymore.

A thread about the exploit was posted today in the forums, so ALOT of players learned about it today. Before that it was just Word of mouth.

ElderBugOffline

exploiters is a good people, because they looking for exploits and sooner or later force ZOS to fix them

it makes game better

Buffler

Roymachine wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

Roymachine wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Incredible...they create an exploit because of their fault, and then we even have to suffer a 2 hours manteniance in peak hours friday...Couln't you have do it 4 hours ago for example??Or this morning??

How would you feel if they left the exploit go and in a few weeks you end up having to pay 50k for each gold mat you want? Thats what would happe

What? lol A massive influx of gold mats would drive the price down, not magically up. If there are a lot more in the market then price drops. If there is one gold mat in the market then it sells for 1 mil, if there are 1 mil gold mats in the market then it sells for.. 200?

You dont understand "cornering the market" you are referring to basic supply and demand, which isnt the case when a few people hold all the supply they can demand what they want.

But nothing has happened to the normal supply of these nor the normal sellers. There is an influx of gold tempers but they are put up for 50k? Nobody would be buying them as I can grab a couple an hour myself just by gathering mats. My time is not worth that and I doubt many people's time is. These people can 'corner the market' with or without having a load of gold tempers. Them getting a large amount of them doesn't take anything away from anyone else getting them legitly.

Not yet because they are gathering mats, as soon as they have enough gold all gold mats in stores get bought by them and they then sell them 100/200% more expensive. They buy all mats that come up and employ same tactic.....most people buy gold mats and cant be bothered to farm for them.

Alcast

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Wonder if the exploiters will get their items removed from inventory and a slap on the wrist.. or will ZOS again prove the slogan: Exploit Early, Exploit Often!

We have data showing who has been exploiting, and will be taking the appropriate actions.

By that you mean they will get promoted? Kappa

InvitationNotFound

Glamdring wrote: »

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

If I understood well the exploit has something to do with banker, which was added in game already loooong time ago. Surely 2 days would not make a huge difference anymore.

A thread about the exploit was posted today in the forums, so ALOT of players learned about it today. Before that it was just Word of mouth.

There were already other exploits posted on the forum and they simply didn't care (and failed to successfully fix them with the major patches (which come every one, two or three month)). That's not an excuse for such a bad time window to fix it. I mean if there are people farming equipment the easy way to get an advantage, who cares? this whole thing is just ***** up.

ArvenAldmeri

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Wonder if the exploiters will get their items removed from inventory and a slap on the wrist.. or will ZOS again prove the slogan: Exploit Early, Exploit Often!

We have data showing who has been exploiting, and will be taking the appropriate actions.

By that you mean they will get promoted? Kappa

They will get achievement for 10k points - Exploiters of the year!

Septimus_Magna

@Leandor

Although I agree its good that ZOS takes immediate action to prevent further exploits, its frustrating to watch such an issue being fixed instantly (even during weekend prime time) while other issues stay in the game for months or even years.

Issues that annoy hundreds of players each and every day get brushed away like its nothing but this gets fixed instantly.

There only seems to be a hurry to fix something if its in ZOS' best interest, if its in the players best interest you can usually expect to hear that it might get fixed in the next major update, which too often isnt the case.

Buffler

Economies in MMO's are so fragile. If anything happens it effects 100% of the player base. This exploit was potentially economy breaking, so whether you like it or not, it was in the players best interest to fix asap.

Leandor

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

@Leandor

Although I agree its good that ZOS takes immediate action to prevent further exploits, its frustrating to watch such an issue being fixed instantly (even during weekend prime time) while other issues stay in the game for months or even years.

Issues that annoy hundreds of players each and every day get brushed away like its nothing but this gets fixed instantly.

There only seems to be a hurry to fix something if its in ZOS' best interest, if its in the players best interest you can usually expect to hear that it might get fixed in the next major update, which too often isnt the case.

Mate, I'm with you completely. There is so much to be done and so little progress on so many things, that I have long since given up.

But that does not change the fact that even staunch complainers like me should encourage good behaviour. This is good behaviour. This needs to be encouraged, not complained about.