Would You Buy Another ZOS Game?

Villious

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

reften wrote: »

Villious wrote: »

reften wrote: »

So let me get this straight, you're on the forums of a game, making comments...it's been out for two years now, you're still playing.

but yet you hate the company so much that built this game you'll NEVER buy another game from them again.

*eye roll

Yeah ESO makes me grumble sometimes, but in the end, best PvP experience I've ever had with a game in a genre that I love. You no votes aren't being honest.

Some of us still play for one simple reason....lack of better options. We have played many others, spent our time there, and are done. Some of us are here simply killing time until a better option is released. When that happens, I think you'll see the impact.

This game has amazing potential, but I truly don't think it will ever be completely realized with the current dev team. It seems it's always one step forward, three steps back. When another "successful" MMO is released, we'll see where the rubber meets the road.

I've enjoyed playing ESO, but with a lot of frustration. More than any other MMO, and I started playing MMOs back in March of 1999 when the original Everquest was released, and I've played quite a few of them. So please don't be arrogant enough to presume to say who's not being honest.

So when there is a complete lack of better options out there, over the next DAoC/ESO/ style game...you're just not going to play anything because the only good options out there are Zos?

Just tired of the harsh negativity on the boards. So many act like this game sucks when so much of their free time is spent playing it.

Where did I say zos was the only good option? Did I not say I enjoyed playing ESO, but with a lot of frustration?You might want to reread my post, and try a little reading comprehension.

Villious

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

reften wrote: »

Villious wrote: »

reften wrote: »

So let me get this straight, you're on the forums of a game, making comments...it's been out for two years now, you're still playing.

but yet you hate the company so much that built this game you'll NEVER buy another game from them again.

*eye roll

Yeah ESO makes me grumble sometimes, but in the end, best PvP experience I've ever had with a game in a genre that I love. You no votes aren't being honest.

Some of us still play for one simple reason....lack of better options. We have played many others, spent our time there, and are done. Some of us are here simply killing time until a better option is released. When that happens, I think you'll see the impact.

This game has amazing potential, but I truly don't think it will ever be completely realized with the current dev team. It seems it's always one step forward, three steps back. When another "successful" MMO is released, we'll see where the rubber meets the road.

I've enjoyed playing ESO, but with a lot of frustration. More than any other MMO, and I started playing MMOs back in March of 1999 when the original Everquest was released, and I've played quite a few of them. So please don't be arrogant enough to presume to say who's not being honest.

So when there is a complete lack of better options out there, over the next DAoC/ESO/ style game...you're just not going to play anything because the only good options out there are Zos?

Just tired of the harsh negativity on the boards. So many act like this game sucks when so much of their free time is spent playing it.

Guy just said its a disaster but its the best MMO out there right now. Wild huh?

Some of you really need to retake a reading comprehension class.

WalkingLegacy

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Nope, watching how they handle this MMO and the direction that they hint at where they're going reminds me of quick cash grab cellphone games.

theher0not

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

No. ESO is fun, but I feel like they are focusing too much ok crow store stuff, there is 1 or 2 rare items in the entire game (both in IC). The mount skill and crafting research system looks like they are from a mobile game (worse actually. In a mobile game I would be able to speed it up). Oh and they locked a race behind a paywall. And then I dislike that some SP are locked behind quests (most of them are not so fun), some in PvP and some in PvE. Same with skill lines, I don't want to grind cyrro on my pve char or Pve(for fighters guild) on my PvP char.

Ch4mpTW

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

theher0not wrote: »

No. ESO is fun, but I feel like they are focusing too much ok crow store stuff, there is 1 or 2 rare items in the entire game (both in IC). The mount skill and crafting research system looks like they are from a mobile game (worse actually. In a mobile game I would be able to speed it up). Oh and they locked a race behind a paywall. And then I dislike that some SP are locked behind quests (most of them are not so fun), some in PvP and some in PvE. Same with skill lines, I don't want to grind cyrro on my pve char or Pve(for fighters guild) on my PvP char.

Actually, you have a very solid point. I've never noticed that. ESO does feel somewhat like a mobile game, infused with a few console RPG elements. I really never noticed this. Very insightful and interesting.

Lolssi

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

I'd be open for it. Of course I won't buy games blindly or just because developer. These guys have actually managed to make Elder Scrolls interesting. Just hoping it wouldn't be an MMO.

Duiwel

I am not a fanboy like most of you ( what I mean by this is not that I am not a fan of the Elder Scrolls series ) What I mean by fanboy is ( fanboys live in absolution i.e. "you're either an android user or an iOS user, you're either PC or Mac, you're either PC, Xbox ONE or PS4... you're either this or that... )

I am not like that so while I do judge a company based on past performance ect. I also judge them based on current performance if they deliver a product that I think is good, looks good & feels enjoyably sure I would buy it. Albeit I would be suspicious at first simply because of how this game turned out from what it use to be ( Cyrodiil use to be MASSIVE & now it's barren ( in comparison, look it's still very fun and there are still large battles, but nothing close to what it use to have ).

Also they need to rethink the way they create mounts / animals. Bears don't ALL look the same, you guys screwed up the Grizzly ( the second most famous bear in the world ( Polar bear is the most well known ). Not all giant cats have the same build, skull and these are things that are VERY important to me. They annoy me if they are just retextured. I mean how hard is it to literally take the same 3D model you already have and just slightly tweak the wireframe... It's not!

VodkaVixen1979

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Heeeeeeeellllllllllllllllll NO! I bought this game because of Oblivion and Skyrim. ZOS gets time from me because my boyfriend likes it and I play with him. They do not, however, get my money post game purchase. Bethesda, please right this wrong and continue TESO the way it should be! ZOS, I do not trust your development team #firewrobel.

Miwerton

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

A studio that does next to nothing to acknowledge bugs and exploits, a purchase section of already in game refferances, and poor servermanagement. Nope if anything the TES franchise and fallout (since there have been talk of it as an online) should not be made an MMO, or rpg with mmo cappabileties if I have to use that horrid euphemism of theyrs.

Let Bethesda release the games like FO 4 and oblivion and let the modder community do the work on any online co-op attempts, as the modder community from the Fallout and TES are amongst the biggest of modder groups, and with creation kit for the consoles it be better, though I have some concern with the amount of limited memory on consoles opposed to pc.

olsborg

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Not if it was an mmo, if it was singleplayer, maybe, I still think their ideas etc are good, just not their execution of them, (online)

Ayalaya

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

I try most MMO's that comes out, so, yes I would buy another ZOS product (if it's a MMO ofc).

Mojomonkeyman

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

During the past two years I learned that ZOS just isn`t a trustworthy company:

Huge strategic turnarounds, broken promises, false advertizing, cash milking on a level that I´d call unethical, combined with incompetence and lack of dedication to their customers (bugfixing).

I`d be a fool not noting the upper level staffs names and avoiding games they develop in future.

TheShadowScout

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Depends on the game...
...I buy my games for the background, not because I have sworn fealty to some software house.

If they make one with an background relevant to my interests - I'm in.

All the whining on the forums about how awful ZOS is - organic bovine waste product, nothing more, every other game I ever played had just the same whining about it, had the same bugs, bugfixes, imbalances not adressed for ages, patrches for the patches, and ESO at least has some features I found refreshingly new, like a combat system that is actually fun for me rather then starting at a dozend cooldown timers...

Draxys

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

haha!

Not an mmo with pvp and "endgame" content, that's for sure.

Last week, I finally witnessed the kind of player that zos develops ESO for (which is marketed as an mmo with pvp and strong pve content.) Stamina DK, in a wrothgar delve, proceeded to light attack a dwarven centurion to death. Took him/her 3 minutes at the level of vet 10. Apart from the light attacks, they used a grand total 3 dragons bloods, 1 executioner and 1 heavy attack, and barely moved the whole time. Clearly did not understand how to play the game effectively. This is who zos develops for- the people who have no idea how to maximize potential. They are unfortunate zos' largest demographic and will make them the most money.

phillyboy7897

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Never again

Affenbaron

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

While i have enjoyed most of my time here i doubt i would purchase another multiplayer game from them.

Zaldan

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

cant play this one at peak time atm so why would I waste more money

Ch4mpTW

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Well then. This thread should certainly raise a few eyebrows of the green men and women moderators, who sit back and only reply with slightly-modified copy-and-pastes... Except for @ZOS_GinaBruno as she's pretty much the only one I respect at ZOS. And you know what's crazy? It's as though they (ZOS as a whole) refuse to acknowledge that Gina is pretty much the only well-liked member of their team. We just tolerate the rest.

Lynx7386

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

No.

I've been around ESO since pre-launch, back before we even had this website and were hosted on the old site.

Zenimax built everyone up with this 'vision' of theirs, but even from the beginning they refused to listen to player input. Throughout beta testing there were dozens upon dozens of suggestions for improvements, reports of bugs, and concerns about certain game mechanics brought up by the testers, and none of them were addressed prior to launch (one of the big concerns back then was stamina vs magicka, with stamina being significantly weaker, and that's only just now getting sorted out? wtf guys).

On top of all that, despite holding 'steadfast' to the idea that this game would always be subscription based, and always be a PC game, and never include a cash shop... look at where those values went. Now we're a console game, which brings the game down as a whole. We're buy to play with a huge cash shop, and the only thing the game devs focus on now is ways to milk more money out of that cash shop.

ZOS has let us down at every turn, at this point I'm convinced they're just as bad as EA and activision even though they're not a publisher. Screw 'em.

Ch4mpTW

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

No.

I've been around ESO since pre-launch, back before we even had this website and were hosted on the old site.

Zenimax built everyone up with this 'vision' of theirs, but even from the beginning they refused to listen to player input. Throughout beta testing there were dozens upon dozens of suggestions for improvements, reports of bugs, and concerns about certain game mechanics brought up by the testers, and none of them were addressed prior to launch (one of the big concerns back then was stamina vs magicka, with stamina being significantly weaker, and that's only just now getting sorted out? wtf guys).

On top of all that, despite holding 'steadfast' to the idea that this game would always be subscription based, and always be a PC game, and never include a cash shop... look at where those values went. Now we're a console game, which brings the game down as a whole. We're buy to play with a huge cash shop, and the only thing the game devs focus on now is ways to milk more money out of that cash shop.

ZOS has let us down at every turn, at this point I'm convinced they're just as bad as EA and activision even though they're not a publisher. Screw 'em.

Damn... You just brought up a lot of old memories. I remember them days of ZOS' "vision", and all of those false promises they gave. Although, I personally welcomed the console additions of the game... I just... I just feel betrayed, brah. I feel like ZOS knew what they were doing all along, but decided to sell us a pipe dream to knab our money. And it feels bad man.

srfrogg23

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Yeah, probably. I always go case by case when looking to buy a new game, but if I'm happy with a company's other products, I tend to look more intently at their new stuff.

I'm pretty happy with the direction they've taken ESO, most of their decisions have been in line with my expectations as an individual customer. If their next game (if they make another) follows suit, sure. They'll probably get another sale from me.

srfrogg23

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

Samphaa wrote: »

The direction the game is going in depresses me, single player dlc's, the things discussed on eso live, band aid fixes, a rediculous amount of bugs. I want new dungeons and for them to do something with imperial city. I don't even want new dungeons I just want veteran versions of the 7 or so dungeons they have with only a normal mode.

I love it but I hate it at the same time. ZOS is feeding on my addiction.

They have been putting out a lot of single player stuff. Hopefully they are also working on some more dungeons and trials too.

Like what they've been doing as far as the single player stuff goes, but I second you're desire to see even more dungeons in the near future, hopefully with more varied mechanics too, fingers crossed!

Khaldar

Yes, I would buy another ZOS title.

While they have struggled with bugs and DLCs that seem a little too stand alone, I would buy another ZOS game. Overall, I find the game slightly addicting and anyone that is camping these forums probably has a similar addictive feeling that they are trying to suppress with their anger.

Trensharo

No, they simply have no clue how to develop an MMORPG game. I tried playing again and was level 8 in an area full of level 11-12 Quests/NPCs. It was torture. This would never happen in a Blizzard/SOE/Funcom/whatever MMORPG. This is the first time I've had the issue where my character did all of the starter area content and ended up that far behind in levels, so I uninstalled it from my PS4, since I couldn't efficiently ask people for help thanks to the lack of communication tools in the game.

The PC version controls are still terrible and the performance isn't all that great unless your computer is overspeced.

I might get FFXIV for my PS4 for when I'm not raiding in WoW. I'm done with Elder Scrolls and Zenimax. The game isn't that engaging and the company developing it is in over their heads.

NordJitsu

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

I also forgot to mention how bad they ruined the difficulty curve. In early Beta this game was HARD. Not only bosses like Mannimarco which served as a skill check, but also just the regular mobs if you weren't paying attention.

They made this game ridiculously easy in the months just before and after launch that leveling became a boring grind with no challenge.

PS. For everyone saying, "I'm just here because there's nothing better out" *cough* Black Desert Online *cough*.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

No.

I've been around ESO since pre-launch, back before we even had this website and were hosted on the old site.

Zenimax built everyone up with this 'vision' of theirs, but even from the beginning they refused to listen to player input. Throughout beta testing there were dozens upon dozens of suggestions for improvements, reports of bugs, and concerns about certain game mechanics brought up by the testers, and none of them were addressed prior to launch (one of the big concerns back then was stamina vs magicka, with stamina being significantly weaker, and that's only just now getting sorted out? wtf guys).

On top of all that, despite holding 'steadfast' to the idea that this game would always be subscription based, and always be a PC game, and never include a cash shop... look at where those values went. Now we're a console game, which brings the game down as a whole. We're buy to play with a huge cash shop, and the only thing the game devs focus on now is ways to milk more money out of that cash shop.

ZOS has let us down at every turn, at this point I'm convinced they're just as bad as EA and activision even though they're not a publisher. Screw 'em.

Damn... You just brought up a lot of old memories. I remember them days of ZOS' "vision", and all of those false promises they gave. Although, I personally welcomed the console additions of the game... I just... I just feel betrayed, brah. I feel like ZOS knew what they were doing all along, but decided to sell us a pipe dream to knab our money. And it feels bad man.

I like the quote about how if they went away from a subscription based system that would mean they would have to compromise their values and wouldnt be able to make they game they wanted.

Well here we are...

Sallington

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

NordJitsu wrote: »

I also forgot to mention how bad they ruined the difficulty curve. In early Beta this game was HARD. Not only bosses like Mannimarco which served as a skill check, but also just the regular mobs if you weren't paying attention.

They made this game ridiculously easy in the months just before and after launch that leveling became a boring grind with no challenge.

PS. For everyone saying, "I'm just here because there's nothing better out" *cough* Black Desert Online *cough*.

This is why most MMOs recently (past 5 years) have been nothing but mediocre. They are all too easy to level through quickly, and then people complain about having nothing to do because they hit level cap in a couple weeks and all the best gear was thrown at them.

Villious

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

NordJitsu wrote: »

*cough* Black Desert Online *cough*.

Not interested.

NordJitsu

No, I would not buy another ZOS title.

Sallington wrote: »

NordJitsu wrote: »

I also forgot to mention how bad they ruined the difficulty curve. In early Beta this game was HARD. Not only bosses like Mannimarco which served as a skill check, but also just the regular mobs if you weren't paying attention.

They made this game ridiculously easy in the months just before and after launch that leveling became a boring grind with no challenge.

PS. For everyone saying, "I'm just here because there's nothing better out" *cough* Black Desert Online *cough*.

This is why most MMOs recently (past 5 years) have been nothing but mediocre. They are all too easy to level through quickly, and then people complain about having nothing to do because they hit level cap in a couple weeks and all the best gear was thrown at them.

You have no idea how hard I fought them on this.

I think it may have been the death of the game honestly. People never learned how to play as they leveled, which meant they got owned by good players in PvP. This of course meant forum whining and ZOS nerfs. Which of course meant all the good players would quit.

Not to mention it meant you burned through content faster like you mentioned.